Saw this in an email and not a bad (AU) price for 8TB of storage.
Also Seagate Archive ST6000AS0002 3.5" 6TB 128MB 5900RPM HDD (ST6000AS0002) is $349 Pre Order
Seagate Archive ST8000AS0002 3.5" 8TB 128MB 5900RPM HDD $399.00 Pre Order @ PLE Computers
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What's your verdict? Any issues and what's it like compared to other drives. $370 is a great price, even cheaper than Amazon.
Any issues and what's it like compared to other drives.
Does anyone else have 8TB drives?
I'm concerned about reliability. I guess only time will tell.$370 is a great price, even cheaper than Amazon.
They're actually meant to be US$260 (~AUD$340) in the US. I assume the price will go back down after this initial batch.
I've been watching the price on the major US sites and they all seem to be around US$299 for pre-orders + shipping
So far so good - I'm currently putting one into my media server pool (Drive Bender). The only thing with the Seagates (8 and 6TB versions) I don't like is that their mounting setup is different from other HDD:
- They don't have a middle hole down both sides
- The centre set of threaded screws holes on the bottom are further backThis may impact how your caddies will mount the drive in racks etc but it is not much of an issue for me, more of a "be aware" annoyance.
As way of background, I currently run two 30+TB pools and have over the years used over 100 HDDs as I tend to upgrade to the largest HDD available when I run out of space. I've had WD, Seagates, & Hitachi and most have never had an issue. The exception was the WD20EARS as they all failed horribly (first of the 4K sector models). My fav by far is the 4TB Hitachi - fast, quiet and reliable with a great price point when they first came out. Unfortunately, their higher capacity drives are just too expensive. The seagate price point is too good to pass up at this stage. We will see how the SMR tech it uses goes.
My views on HDD is that at some point they will all fail. Also if your run enough, expect that one could fail at any time…. so
- Nothing beats a backup (hence the second pool)
- RAID is NOT a backup and a complication you don't want unless you need uptime on your pool
- HD Sentinel Pro is worth every cent in monitoring the health of your HDD
- I keep a "cold spare" HDD of the largest capacity on the Shelf so if a Drive Fails, I can just swap it out and restore any missing content from the other pool
- I use ReFS over NTFS where possible and as a result I've never had to run CHKDSK on these drives!I had issues with Drive Bender and have replaced it with Unraid and found more reliability
Yeah I've had some issues over the years with Drive Bender but if you want a Win / Win Server compatible pool it is about as good as you get. The latest V2 is pretty solid.
No probs with your choice of Unraid on Linux, good combo. For me I want native (non VM) pooling on both a Win Server 2012 R2 and Win 8.1 instance. One benefit of DB was I just changed from WHS2011 to Win Server 2012 R2 on one PC and the pool is portable.
Holy crap have you downloaded the entire internet?
Thanks for the comments about the Hitachi drives. After Samsung went out of the HDD business I thought going back to Seagate was the way to go. Might try Hitachi next for my 2TBs
Seagate no thanks.
Just got another dead Seagate from customer.
I've had 2 x 3TB Seagate HDDS fail in the last 4 months. Both internals and around 1-2 years old.
Too bad, Seagate in Chinese pronounce like "Dead Chicken" .. lol …
I'm no fan of Seagate, but to be perfectly fair, 3TB were their worst drives. Massively high fail rates. 4TB faired much better, haven't heard about the 6TB nor obviously 8TB but maybe they've come around.
Personally I trust my Hitachi 4TB CoolSpins, but they do cost a lot more.
I'm also staying away from their 3 and 4TB drives. After reading about all the bad experiences people have had, a cheap deal came along so I gave it a try anyway. The 3TB drive died within a few months, and the 4TB drive makes whirring noises sometimes, but still works.
Before that, I had a whole heap of WD drives die, along with a few Seagates as well. These companies seem to have seasons… some drive families just seem to be more prone to failure than others.
@eug:
Agreed. The only way to buffer yourself is to wait for ages, look for the feedback and base a decision on that (and of course hope you don't get a bad batch after all that waiting lol)
I'm extremely happy with my Hitachi drives. I've had a few drives from each brand die. It's a lucky dip at the end of the day, especially buying cutting edge like these 8TB. Not that I'm saying they're bad, just untested.
Which brand do you recommend for QA then? Western Digital, Toshiba or another? Thanks heaps.
WD Reds (if you dont mind slower performance but better energy efficiency) and Hitachi HGST Deskstar NAS (if you want performance but dont mind the extra power usage).
WD
If Seagate keeps on making so many faulty drives, how are they still in business?
Their drives are cheaper.
I had 4 faulty seagates, but I think the main reason was the heat of them together was pretty high and would of reduce their life expectancy
warranty returns were pretty quick and hasslefree especially since they came from singaporeBeen waiting for these to come out. Really want to get rid of two of my HP microservers.
HP Microserver can fit 6x 3.5 Drives and 1x 2.5 Drives Internal and another External via esata
how?? is there enough space??
On the N36/N40/N54, you can fit two standard 3.5" drives behind the 5.25" bay. Just separate the drives for airflow (some people mentioned they used an X bracket - I just use enough blutac to raise about 5mm) and consider putting in a 2 port SATA card. The 2.5" drive fits nicely under the 5.25" tray after you make a little bit of room where the power cables run through. I use the ODD port for a small SSD as a boot drive.
I have one HP Microserver N36L with (1x 4TB Seagate for Parity and 3x 4TB WD Reds) in Hot Swap location and 2x 4TB WD Reds in 5.25 Bay, USB for Unraid OS and 1x 2.5 SSD for Cache Drive. 2 Port Sata Low-Profile to add the extra drives. Giving 20TB of useable space, with RAID Redundancy.
Other HP Microserver N36L similar 1x 4TB Seagate and 4x 2TB Samsung. Giving 8TB of useable space, with RAID Redundancy.
The Power consumption on these boxes is awesome, and add unraid that powers down drives that are not in use helps with power consumption.
@chutibuti: I still have cases on mine, haven't really thought of having them bare, might be better for cooling
@Kaboda:
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Wow that's one expensive hard drive.
You noticed it was 8TB.. right?
Yes. As i said expensive hard drive.
For 8TB (and just released) I disagree.
BTW I didn't neg your earlier comment.
All depends on a persons perspective. Some would see spending $400 on a hard drive is a lot. While others would see a 8TB hard drive for $400 to be a good price.
Sad reality is come 12 months later this hard drive would probably be going for $250 to $300 every day price.
When. 4tb is still around $200 ish it's not that expensive
Just purchased a couple from HB Outlet for $369.50ea with free shipping. Purchased on Wed Night, Arrived Today.
http://www.hboutlet.com.au/catalog/computer-components-hard-…