Harvey Norman Price Match Fiasco! Fed up with price matching! Retailers - grow a backbone!

I'm sick and tired of walking into stores that have a price matching policy advertised on their website yet I find places where, regardless of meeting all requirements for a price match - the store manager / staff still refuse to price match and give the most irrelevant and condescending reasoning behind their refusal.

I'm relatively thick skinned - however a lot of the times the negotiation can get extremely unpleasant leaving customers who have come in to purchase something very upset, disillusioned and unhappy (even when they walk out after purchasing something).

You begin to wonder why these policies are put in place - you would imagine that they are designed to give the customer extra benefit / positive experience for shopping at a store enticing them to haggle / request a price match, when really all they do is generate conflict and negativity between shoppers and staff leaving them demotivated to help one another out (in the end we just want both to be happy)

I understand that contacting the head office or fair trading will most likely result in the customer's favour - but why should consumers have to go through such a lengthy and convoluted process? If you are a business and are advertising that you have a price beat guarantee or a price matching policy - you should make the customer feel comfortable and happy about doing what you are enticing them to come to your store with.

It appears to me that store managers / owners need to train staff in detail on their own price matching policies, but also throw in some training about consumer law and give some examples where matching should be accepted / declined. I don't believe for a second that any staff members are ever fully trained specifically in these areas.


I've just had a crazy experience at a Harvey Norman at Domayne.

The first thing I was told was that the items I wanted weren't in stock after I just contacted the store 15 minutes ago and was told that they were. The member didn't go and look nor did they ask anyone they just tried to give me the flick. Granted, they apologised after I insisted they find who I spoke with and check and sure enough the items were brought out.

Then came the price match negotiation.

I was happy with the price they had on the first item - and asked if they would price match the second item.

The staff member, on their own computer, went online and searched shopbot and staticice for better pricing for me (unexpected and very friendly service). We together found that Digital Camera Warehouse were doing a decent price (approx $30 cheaper than the Harvey Norman price) and I requested a price match. The staff member told me the following:

  • The store must be a bricks and mortar store and not an online store
  • The item must be in stock and available for purchase
  • The store must be in Sydney

I rang the store and confirmed the following:

  • Digital Camera Warehouse has 3 bricks and mortar stores, 1 in Melb, 1 in Syd and 1 in Brisbane.
  • The item was in stock
  • The Sydney store was open and I spoke with staff there who confirmed the above.

The staff member went to the store manager and came back telling me that they won't price match.

I asked for the reason why and he said "We don't match this store, sorry"

I asked why they don't match the store and he did not answer and brought out his manager.

The store manager sat down and at first discussed one of our previous dealings where I was previously refused a price match when I attempted to purchase a completely different item at a completely different time. He said "I know who you are I recognise you from before"

I asked him why our previous dealings have anything to do with the purchase "I wanted to make today" which he didn't have an answer for. He moved on to go through the price matching policy on the website. At first - he tried to explain to me that the store I want to price match with is not a regular shopfront store. I asked him to explain and in his example he mentioned "Costco".

I told him that Costco is very different - they require a membership and an ABN to sign up before you can purchase anything from them and that the store I want to match with was as regular as any Harvey Norman / Officeworks / JB where you can simply walk in and purchase something. Furthermore, there were clearly marked shopfront stores with pictures and addresses and phone numbers on the DCW website.

Fumbling around and looking for another excuse, the store manager simply said "We don't match this store" and brought up the clauses in his price match policy online. He came to this section here:

6 (f) the identical product is advertised in classifieds, commercial resellers or distributors who sell direct to the public, parallel importers, grey importers, direct importers, fire or liquidation sales, rack, clearance and warehouse outlets;

Then he highlighted the last 2 words "warehouse outlets" and said to me that Digital Camera Warehouse is a warehouse outlet.

Fair enough - he sort of had a leg to stand on there but I then questioned the meaning of "warehouse" and went back to his example of Costco. I also questioned whether having the word "Warehouse" in the name means that they are a warehouse outlet. I told him "Surely Harvey Norman have a warehouse somewhere too?" and he said "Not that sells to the public".

At that point I decided I would call DCW and ask them if they are a warehouse outlet and whether they have a warehouse or not. The gentleman said that they have a warehouse that they get stock for their 3 shops but as such it's not a warehouse open to the public nor does it sell to the public.

I did this right in front of him (the HN store manager) - effectively providing enough information to clearly show that they are not a warehouse outlet such as "Costco" and that just like he explained about HN warehouse, it is not open to the public.

He said he still would not price match given this information and said "That person on the phone could be anyone and they could be saying anything. I'm not saying they are lying but they could be lying"

To which I replied - "Will you take 2 minutes to call their store yourself and maybe ask for a manager and confirm?"

He said that he doesn't have to do anything I ask him to do and still refuses to price match. He continually told me to ring head office and I would continually reply that it was a massive inconvenience to have to come back and jump through all of those hoops considering it was pretty clear that DCW were not a warehouse outlet.

We went around in circles for around 20 minutes, with the manager stalling and fumbling with his reasoning. I was very calm, collected and polite. I did not raise my voice or behave in a menacing manner I simply asked questions.

Finally the manager cracked and took not only the item I wanted to match but also the item I agreed to purchase (which had nothing to do with the match I wanted) and he said "I'm not going to sell this to you either" picked it up and walked off.

I was gobsmacked - and asked other staff around if they'll help me out or what was going on. No-one said a thing. I sat there in the hope he would come back - he came back and said he spoke with the Franchisee and would not sell me a anything in the store.

My partner then came to the table we were sitting at after browsing other items - and after telling her what was going on she asked "Will you sell anything to me? Can I buy it?"

The store manager then tried to tell her that she was also part of the conversation and would not sell anything to her - and after pleading to sell me the item because it was a Christmas present he allowed my partner to purchase it.

Overall a very messy, unpleasant and upsetting turn of events.

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Comments

  • I never forget their doggy sell service, order Nex 5N, send Nex 5 instead, they are look exactly the same, i only discover it after a month later!

  • Always go to the original retailer

  • Always confirm that the store has stock before doing any price matching. Gives them one less excuse.

  • end of the day the store manager is nothing short of a down right scum bag. You cant do crap like that in this day and age, stuff gets back too fast.

  • +1

    Dude just go to the other store and stop being one of those annoying cheapskates.

    Is your time and peace of mind not worth more than 30 dollars??

    Chill out lol how can you get your gf involved in such a messy situation? nort worth it :)

    • -6

      Annoying cheapskates? What site do you think we're on? You're a member.

      • +2

        I like specials and bargains. I wont make a show on a store, if the competitor trully had the item in stock, just buy it from them.

        A seller has no obligation to sell a product unless a legally binding contract exist, don't confuse with an offer to trade

      • Have you listened to a single piece of advice from this thread? It still hasnt sunk in not to f*** around with such a large company dilly dallying with price matches and losing your sanity over a price match, and inturn giving your custom to said terrible company and squeezing out the little guy. If it was a %price beat with a substantial saving maybe id understand, but to sit there for 30+ minutes aruguing and trying to prove some asshole wrong is beyond stupidity.
        If you take nothing away from all this advice, then I hope you keep going back to HN and you can enjoy a long and fruitful relationship with them.

        • +1

          Lol at "All this advice" Lol at "f around and dilly dallying" in the same sentence.
          Thanks Uncle Dad.

          • Sigh * No-one seems to read all the information before posting their advice.

          I was already in the store for a DIFFERENT item that DCW did not have.

          THEN

          I wanted another item and found DCW had it at a good price.

          I was ALREADY AT HN buying one item - so I thought I'd match the second price.

          I didn't go all the way to HN for a price match when I could have just gone to DCW.

          Please read in detail.

        • ^ My favourite response in this thread.

        • @King Tightarse: Lol at you combing through my posts, downvoting everything.

          Pretty sad mate. Find a hobby maybe?

        • @thedude23:
          Enter the world of wrong son, I didnt do that. Might need to accept that "people" dont always like your posts.
          You assumed I care. Trust me, I don't.

  • +1

    I've had one HN store refuse to price match another HN store.

  • +1

    this is why i buy online. dont have to deal with crappy sales people

  • This is a disgrace! And I know how you feel!!
    Shame on you Harvey Norman!!!

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predatory_pricing

    Honestly what did you expext from HN?

    • This guy is crazy

  • +1

    This is ridiculous. I won't spend that much time to insist HN to match price. You can go there to get the same thing by $30.

    Certainly if they would price match the like target, bigw etc

    Why u let down by yourself?

    Stupid

    • Sigh * No-one seems to read all the information before posting their advice.
      I was already in the store for a DIFFERENT item that DCW did not have.

      THEN

      I wanted another item and found DCW had it at a good price.

      I was ALREADY AT HN buying one item - so I thought I'd match the second price.

      I didn't go all the way to HN for a price match when I could have just gone to DCW.

      Please read in detail.

  • Have a read of this. It's about bunnings (you'll learn a few other things) but talks about how the price match policies are a bad thing
    http://thomasthethinkengine.com/2014/02/28/why-bunnings-pric…

    • I've actually read this before… :D

      Also, it sends out signal to other players, allowing the big companies to set price at high price.

      To simplify for demonstration, a game with 2 players, 2 decisions, set price at high or low, simultaneously made at one point.

      Assume that the decisions can be changed at any point, at a cost.

      I am going to do horrendous thing and grossly simply the payoffs for each choices. I don't want to write an essay.

      Payoff of high price is the mediocre, high profit per sale but mediocre sales volume.
      Setting the price low, if your opponent's price is high, gives you the best outcome, high payoff.
      The sales volume increases, lower profit per sales but bigger sales volume.
      However, if both of you set the price low, both party loses profit, lower profit/sales with mediocre sales volume, low

      Basically price matching sends out signal, if you set your price low, I will set my price low. Knowing this, the other opponent will not set the price low, as you know that the opponent will react quickly and thus both parties get lower payoff if one decides to set the price low.

  • -4

    i 100% sure the store manager is indian.

    • What has his/her race got to do with anything?!

  • Reminds me of my encounter at Officeworks in ballarat…. went in to get a microsd card… Msy had them for $30 and officeworks had the same for $59. The salesman (Eric) looked it up on the computer, all with attitude of coarse at the imposition I was putting on him and came back with the following logic because he couldn't find the mailing prices…. it will cost you at least $35 in petrol there and back not to mention time so we will sell it to you for $69 - %5 ….$64… oh I said.. so you want to sell it to me dearer than your normal retail price…. I can probably knock another $5 off was the reply… so of coarse I just shook my head at him and walked out. Went home found it elsewhere on the net for $25… free postage and had it in 3 days. Never went back in for over 12 months, I use to be in there every couple of weeks… Some people just shouldn't do sales as a job.

  • +1

    I have not read through the comments so if they has already been stated my apologies, but wanted to share the same thing that happened to me with Harvey Norman when buying a microwave. Now the only reason why we purchased them through them was because we had vouchers to spend with them.

    The microwave was cheaper through Masters so I went in talked to them and they refused to price match claiming it was cheaper than the price they buy them for, I explained thats they should not advertise the price match then…

    I went back home and jumped on the net and went to this website: (Which I also showed the so called "Manager")
    http://www.harveynorman.com.au/customer-service/best-price-g…

    then emailed : [email protected]

    I ended up getting the microwave from them for the price I should have and also an Apology, so I know its a bit of stuffing around and really it should not have happened but I guess I was happy in the end..

  • You don't say which Harvey Norman you had this experience at.

    Sounds like North Ryde, NSW to me…

    • This is a pretty old post - I purposely didn't want to name and shame. Are you going through my posts or something ;) ?

  • Reckon it comes down to the store and manager. I've always bought my stuffs from the same store and never had a problem with price matching.

  • I see the point of price matching if you buy something and 2 days later see it for a bunch less cash at a different shop and feel like you were ripped off. In that case, you're not selling out your loyalties, you already made your decision on a retailer, and they can give you the difference back to thank you for your business.

    If I price compare before a purchase, I'll buy from the vendor I'm most happy with, at their price. If there's a shoddy outfit with the best price, I don't expect a place I trust to have to meet it, because I don't want everyone to be shoddy.

    The best to deal with have been The Good Guys for me. I don't usually consider HN stores when shopping because I hate their annoying screamy adverts.

    PS I know this is a necro but I figure the topic's still relevant - more now than ever probably, with the "Game changing" going on..

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