Harvey Norman Price Match Fiasco! Fed up with price matching! Retailers - grow a backbone!

I'm sick and tired of walking into stores that have a price matching policy advertised on their website yet I find places where, regardless of meeting all requirements for a price match - the store manager / staff still refuse to price match and give the most irrelevant and condescending reasoning behind their refusal.

I'm relatively thick skinned - however a lot of the times the negotiation can get extremely unpleasant leaving customers who have come in to purchase something very upset, disillusioned and unhappy (even when they walk out after purchasing something).

You begin to wonder why these policies are put in place - you would imagine that they are designed to give the customer extra benefit / positive experience for shopping at a store enticing them to haggle / request a price match, when really all they do is generate conflict and negativity between shoppers and staff leaving them demotivated to help one another out (in the end we just want both to be happy)

I understand that contacting the head office or fair trading will most likely result in the customer's favour - but why should consumers have to go through such a lengthy and convoluted process? If you are a business and are advertising that you have a price beat guarantee or a price matching policy - you should make the customer feel comfortable and happy about doing what you are enticing them to come to your store with.

It appears to me that store managers / owners need to train staff in detail on their own price matching policies, but also throw in some training about consumer law and give some examples where matching should be accepted / declined. I don't believe for a second that any staff members are ever fully trained specifically in these areas.


I've just had a crazy experience at a Harvey Norman at Domayne.

The first thing I was told was that the items I wanted weren't in stock after I just contacted the store 15 minutes ago and was told that they were. The member didn't go and look nor did they ask anyone they just tried to give me the flick. Granted, they apologised after I insisted they find who I spoke with and check and sure enough the items were brought out.

Then came the price match negotiation.

I was happy with the price they had on the first item - and asked if they would price match the second item.

The staff member, on their own computer, went online and searched shopbot and staticice for better pricing for me (unexpected and very friendly service). We together found that Digital Camera Warehouse were doing a decent price (approx $30 cheaper than the Harvey Norman price) and I requested a price match. The staff member told me the following:

  • The store must be a bricks and mortar store and not an online store
  • The item must be in stock and available for purchase
  • The store must be in Sydney

I rang the store and confirmed the following:

  • Digital Camera Warehouse has 3 bricks and mortar stores, 1 in Melb, 1 in Syd and 1 in Brisbane.
  • The item was in stock
  • The Sydney store was open and I spoke with staff there who confirmed the above.

The staff member went to the store manager and came back telling me that they won't price match.

I asked for the reason why and he said "We don't match this store, sorry"

I asked why they don't match the store and he did not answer and brought out his manager.

The store manager sat down and at first discussed one of our previous dealings where I was previously refused a price match when I attempted to purchase a completely different item at a completely different time. He said "I know who you are I recognise you from before"

I asked him why our previous dealings have anything to do with the purchase "I wanted to make today" which he didn't have an answer for. He moved on to go through the price matching policy on the website. At first - he tried to explain to me that the store I want to price match with is not a regular shopfront store. I asked him to explain and in his example he mentioned "Costco".

I told him that Costco is very different - they require a membership and an ABN to sign up before you can purchase anything from them and that the store I want to match with was as regular as any Harvey Norman / Officeworks / JB where you can simply walk in and purchase something. Furthermore, there were clearly marked shopfront stores with pictures and addresses and phone numbers on the DCW website.

Fumbling around and looking for another excuse, the store manager simply said "We don't match this store" and brought up the clauses in his price match policy online. He came to this section here:

6 (f) the identical product is advertised in classifieds, commercial resellers or distributors who sell direct to the public, parallel importers, grey importers, direct importers, fire or liquidation sales, rack, clearance and warehouse outlets;

Then he highlighted the last 2 words "warehouse outlets" and said to me that Digital Camera Warehouse is a warehouse outlet.

Fair enough - he sort of had a leg to stand on there but I then questioned the meaning of "warehouse" and went back to his example of Costco. I also questioned whether having the word "Warehouse" in the name means that they are a warehouse outlet. I told him "Surely Harvey Norman have a warehouse somewhere too?" and he said "Not that sells to the public".

At that point I decided I would call DCW and ask them if they are a warehouse outlet and whether they have a warehouse or not. The gentleman said that they have a warehouse that they get stock for their 3 shops but as such it's not a warehouse open to the public nor does it sell to the public.

I did this right in front of him (the HN store manager) - effectively providing enough information to clearly show that they are not a warehouse outlet such as "Costco" and that just like he explained about HN warehouse, it is not open to the public.

He said he still would not price match given this information and said "That person on the phone could be anyone and they could be saying anything. I'm not saying they are lying but they could be lying"

To which I replied - "Will you take 2 minutes to call their store yourself and maybe ask for a manager and confirm?"

He said that he doesn't have to do anything I ask him to do and still refuses to price match. He continually told me to ring head office and I would continually reply that it was a massive inconvenience to have to come back and jump through all of those hoops considering it was pretty clear that DCW were not a warehouse outlet.

We went around in circles for around 20 minutes, with the manager stalling and fumbling with his reasoning. I was very calm, collected and polite. I did not raise my voice or behave in a menacing manner I simply asked questions.

Finally the manager cracked and took not only the item I wanted to match but also the item I agreed to purchase (which had nothing to do with the match I wanted) and he said "I'm not going to sell this to you either" picked it up and walked off.

I was gobsmacked - and asked other staff around if they'll help me out or what was going on. No-one said a thing. I sat there in the hope he would come back - he came back and said he spoke with the Franchisee and would not sell me a anything in the store.

My partner then came to the table we were sitting at after browsing other items - and after telling her what was going on she asked "Will you sell anything to me? Can I buy it?"

The store manager then tried to tell her that she was also part of the conversation and would not sell anything to her - and after pleading to sell me the item because it was a Christmas present he allowed my partner to purchase it.

Overall a very messy, unpleasant and upsetting turn of events.

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Comments

  • +34

    Sounds like the manager is acting childish, just buy from DCW if they are offering the camera for cheaper, my guess is the camera goes below HNs cost price, so the manager didnt sell it

    • +43

      It might be the case but is that a valid reason to make me drive out to another store?

      The bottom line is - whether they lose money or not - they are the ones who are advertising that they are willing to do so in the first place.

      I guess what I'm trying to do here is create some clarity on price matching from retailers in Australia. All this grey area BS needs to be addressed I'm hoping my massive rant make some kind of impact not just for Harvey Norman but for all retailers.

      This should not be a difficult and tedious task. It should make customers feel comfortable and happy and staff should be approachable regarding their own store's enticements and policies.

        • +22

          They should want you to price match if they advertise.

          Sorry, but I'm not prepared to sit there like the rest of the sheep and just take it.

        • +34

          @Michegianni:

          I don't understand why you're even using a store which by the sounds of it, has previously treated you like rubbish. You seem so focused on this price matching issue that you're supporting a shitty company that repeatedly treats you poorly. Stop using these other stores to price match, and actually purchase from them.. It's the only real catalyst for change at HN.

        • +4

          Yeah I guess it's the whole price matching in general that shits me more than anything. This particular scenario is just the example that tipped me over and made me type a book.

        • +3

          @Michegianni:
          Yeah, well-said/realised.

          Price-matching is really only guaranteed to be hassle-free if you have a current, printed catalogue in your hand to show them; otherwise it's just more time-consuming/hassle than it's worth.

          BTW re Costco, you actually don't need an ABN to join up/shop there… so it's lucky you didn't base your argument/s entirely on that!

          Anyways your missus sounds really cool, stepping in to "up the ante" at the final hour! I bet the sales-dude was nae' expecting you to have "reinforcements lurking in the wings"! LOL! Love it!

        • @GnarlyKnuckles:

          +1 for the use of "nae"

          :)

        • +1

          @GStone:

          TBH I don't agree on just doing nothing. This encourages retail shops to put up BS 'guarantees' and hence will help a lot in their sales, leading consumers to think that the store has the best price. The consumers, especially the elders will have the mindset of "this stores has a best price guarantee, so the price must be the cheapest".

          Sometimes I wander around retail stores and see those '100% satisfaction guarantee', '100% money back guarantee'. I don't really know what it means, and I bet the store itself don't know what it means either. They just put that up there to boost marketing.

          Really ACCC should do something about these kind of so called 'guarantee' when the stores are just putting them up for the sake of boosting marketing. The only 'price match guarantee' that I find to be very, very reasonable is OfficeWorks. The rest like HN, GoodGuys etc has very vague policy in place and their policy is to try not to price match.

      • +43

        Post your experience on their facebook page.

        • +7

          This is a great idea, nothing gets a reaction like bad social media

      • +8

        Price Matching is for naive sheep that must give their $ to familiar logos.

        Price Beating , and significant price beating at that, is the only situation where a professional should give their time.

        • +4

          Although you also have to factor in cost of distance to travel/parking into this as well.

        • +2

          I may prefer familiar retailers because of

          after sales support.
          track record for honouring warranty and guarantees.
          broader return policies.

          also, I don't want to buy something cheaper at a shop, next day I come back, the shops closed down!

          just cuz I value these things and you don't, no need to stereotype and label me as a naive sheep!

        • @OYC: from my experience in the past I have found that Harvey Norman will redirect you to the manufacturer if you have warranty issues.

        • +2

          @Junk Collection: Which they can't technically do under the ACL. It's the responsibility of the retailer to deal with warranty issues. Often they'll send you to the manufacturer because it's quicker for everyone involved but they can't refuse to take it either.

      • +1

        I posted this a year ago with Officeworks… Similar tactics:

        https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/128999

        • +1

          I was told once at OW they could not price match because the staff did not have access to a computer.

        • @Fred: LOL!

    • +4

      Yes, why not just buy it from DCW and support the smaller business who have the low price in the first place?

      Many uneducated people do the same with price matching Tiger flights on Jetscum. If Tiger go out of business as a result, do you really expect Jetscum's prices to be as low?

    • +1

      Cost price is much lower than you might think. It is just stores have to make huge markups to justify their existence.

      • Plus factor in tax, labour, rent, royalties, shrinkage, shareholder ROI, insurance, cash flow, etc.

  • +6

    Have had similar experiences with TGG's price matching policy. EB are the only one's I've never had a problem with. It's all just a 'face' to put people of price checking as many would expect such a price matching policy to infer that they already have the best price.

    Thanks for sharing your experience. It's a shame he put such a dampener on your Christmas shopping. Good luck with the rest of it!

    • +1

      EBs at Helensvale Gold Coast refuse to price match, even when there used to be a GAME store pratically next to them, they still refused to priced match. Gave up asking, and then walking in the end.

      • +2

        EB Northland (VIC) outright lied and said Toys R Us didn't have stock, even when I shoes them a photo of it on Toys R Us' shelf. Made sure no one gave me EB gift cards after that.

        • +2

          EB Northland is a joke.
          Tried to price match with Big W, and they refused because there is no Big W in Northland.
          Then decided to buy it anyway, but they gave me secondhand game as there was a previously saved game in the NDS cart. They argued that they allow to sell it as brand new with their Satisfaction returns guarantee policy.

        • @kumak: Had a similar experience trying to price match a xbox controller for windows. In the end I bought it when it went on sale for even less. Take that!

  • +83

    Buy from DCW. I don't bother to price match. I just buy from whoever is cheapest and reward them with my custom,. It saves my sanity and my time

      • +49

        Yes, people are happy to give up - give up on shops like HN.

        You should have voted with your wallet and bought BOTH items at DCW. This way you would've saved yourself the trouble and helped HN dig its own grave all in one transaction.

      • +25

        Well, that's why OzBargain is here for. I'm an informed buyer. I know what i want and i'll research and buy it at what i think is the best price.

        If its a small business that gives the cheapest price, then i will buy from there. Why line the pockets of Gerry Harvey when they run you through hoops to price match and give your crappy service.

        All this business of price matching is BS. I don't like playing games with the sales person, and I consider my time more valuable than wasting 30 mins to argue for a discount of $30 (unless it's a big ticket item), where i could have bought it from the cheaper place from the start.

        PS: you could have saved your sanity and not have all this pent up anger/stress if you bought from DCW from the start, is all i'm saying

        PPS: It's HN - Never believe what they say/advertise :)

      • +17

        +1 to both comments above. It's not about "happy to give up", if all customers have chosen to vote with their feet and wallets, eventually stores like HN would have been forced to change to adapt. I would purchase with the store that offers the best price at the time, imagine how the store felt if they genuinely offers a discount and only to find they still lost customers to the bigger guys whom are too lazy to offer any good deals and just wait and undercut their deals, it's not exactly encouraging healthy competition IMHO.

        Is this a price matching or price beating deal? If it's simply matching the price you should have definitely purchased from DCW, as even if you were successful at HN, you were pretty much wasting your time with them to pay the same amount of money that you could have purchased the item at DCW without wasting any of your time and sanity. As much as I hate HN (even more so, Gerry Harvey himself), the shop does have the right to not sell anything to you as it is not their obligation to sell anything to someone, they are offering an invitation to trade, although by doing this is certainly very bad for business.

        In the end you kind of gave HN the upper hand by having to plead to have them taking your money with the non-price matching purchase, which probably encouraged them to be the prick they were with you. Unless you needed the item on the day or very early next day, should have bought it elsewhere…..

      • +5

        It sounds to me that you just don't like to lose your argument.

        I normally buy things at the shop that advertise the cheapest price unless it's really out of my way. It's easier, less hassle and my way to reward that retailer for putting up a competitive price.

          • Sigh * No-one seems to read all the information before posting their advice.

          I was already in the store for a DIFFERENT item that DCW did not have.

          THEN

          I wanted another item and found DCW had it at a good price.

          I was ALREADY AT HN buying one item - so I thought I'd match the second price.

          I didn't go all the way to HN for a price match when I could have just gone to DCW.

          Please read in detail.

  • +30

    Yep just give your money to the smaller store trying to do the right thing and force competition.

    • +1

      That's exactly what I do.

      The one that drives competition gets my money, not the one willing to "match" it. Only if they were offering the ability to BEAT the price I'd bother to argue with them.

  • +10

    Absolute insanity that a store manager would waste so much of his time and your time over a mere $30. Sounds like a guy who simply is not cut out for the position he is in.

    Thanks for posting it here. Have you posted it on their Facebook page etc as well?

    • +1

      I don't know… If I go all out it will eat me up inside.

    • +2

      HN has content filtering on their Facebook page, posts need approval. Already wrote a massive complaint, just reading the post managed to piss me off. Looks like it isn't going to appear up there.

      • Good to see they have such great customer service.

    • +2

      I would have assumed that the store manager would have something better to do than preventing a $30 price match.

  • +2

    I dont understand some of these stores, If i owned one of these my first and only goal would be to make the customer happy, your not going to make money pissing customers off. Theyd only be making money because their a big name retailer, if you walked into a smaller shop and got that service they would not be open for a month. If i was you, wouldnt even bother shopping there again, and gobsmacked you even bought your original purchase.

    • -2

      Need it for Christmas and don't have time… If I wasn't working my arse off pleasing clients before the Christmas break I would have time to shop around.

      • +2

        fair enough, still woulda gave the store manager the finger and left loud and proud ;)

      • +3

        Yet you had time to argue?

        • -3

          Come on man - you know as well as anyone chatting to someone for 20 minutes is a lot easier than driving somewhere 30 mins each way and spending time in another store.

  • +4

    Michegianni good on you, I'm quite thick skinned too and have also had this kind of experience at the Launceston store, I ended up travelling to another HN store in Burnie where they not only price matched they undercut it. 3 years later I have yet to set foot back into the Launceston store and to this day tell everyone not to go there.

  • +4

    Price matching is nice in theory, but you never know if you'll be trying to negotiate with a jerk or not. Ideally there would be a clear list of qualifications / exceptions and there would be some accountability (from head office / ACCC etc.) for someone not following their own store's policy (I've never heard of a store being punished for not following their own price match policy, would love to be proven wrong).

    I think I've mentioned this in another price matching thread, but DSE have at least got a clear policy which mentions

    The price must not be below our cost price.

    and is probably the main reason why price matches aren't given. At least they can cite this (even if their cost price isn't transparent, the customer probably has at least a vague idea whether the retailer would be making much money from their sale or not) and let everyone get on with their lives.

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    • lol

  • +7

    "I've just had a crazy experience at Harvey Norman" - that's your problem right there

  • +5

    You misunderstand why they do "price matching". You aren't supposed to take them up on it; it's to give the naive customer the idea they must be at a comparable price to other suppliers. It's similar to "money back guarantee" - designed to give you the warm fuzzies, not to be used.

    In such circumstances is usually best to put this all down in writing (and I mean writing) along with words like "misrepresentation", "gross affront", and "distress" and send it to the headoffice, with the final paragraph explicitly asking how they are going to "satisfactorily redress this obvious wrong and make good on the distress caused by your poorly trained operative".

    If they have any sense, and any customer care process at all, they should at least provide some vouchers to smooth things over. Harvey Norman isn't actually with the real world in terms of retail, but it's still worth a go; and if you use the right phrasing and the right tone (you sound need to sound like a 47 year old bank manager) it should ring their "bad press" alarm bells.

    Best I ever did was from a bank, I got a half case of wine…

    • +5

      Surely there's a way to stick it to the retailers without planning a day of essay writing.

      Maybe a website that tracks stores, items, staff member name and whether or not the price was or wasn't matched.

      A subsection on OzBargain maybe.

      "64GB iPhone 5", "OfficeWorks Sydney CBD", "$876", "Staff Name George", "Matched from BH PhotoVideo"
      "16GB iPhone 5", "JB Hifi World Square", "$399", "Staff Name Jo", "Matched from Kogan"
      "Logitech G19", "DSE George St", "$240, "Staff Name Bob", "Not Matched from JB Hifi"

      etc

      With search-ability by item / location / price / store etc

      Might not be allowed to post the staff member name for privacy reasons but this could be a goto section for prices in general on items too.

      This way we could point to it and say "Well this guy got it matched at this store". Ultimately it will stop retailers doing the wrong thing in 2 ways.

      1 - They won't give low prices where they weren't supposed to
      2 - They will give low prices where they were supposed to

      Kind of like an Urbanspoon for restaurants except for successful and unsuccessful price matching.

      Would you guys use something like that?

  • Launceston store would not price match their own website as being a franchise they don't have to…so they said.

  • +3

    I love DCW. All my camera equipment is bought from there and I have literally saved $400-$500 on a $2500 transaction, compared to if I had bought it from some other store. Would've costed around $3,200. I highly recommend DCW.

  • +3

    Name and shame I say. Personally after all the bad encounters I've had at Harvey Norman, I'll never step foot in there again. Interestingly, I had an experience yesterday with JB Hifi where they wouldn't price match Dick Smith, saying they don't price match them anymore.

    • Might be easier to list the stores that were successful as there are fewer of them.

  • +67

    Do you know why retailers have a price match policy? To drown out competition. Before all of this price matching BS, you'd buy from whoever offered you the best price, that was easy. If you were a small retailer trying to build your business, you'd try to be more efficient and you'd beat out the big guys on price, that's how everything worked and businesses which could manage their finances the best offered the best prices, consumers shopped there. Everybody was happy.

    Then the big guns decided to be bullies. That's what price matching is - it's a policy to bully small stores. Suddenly when a small store offers a discount, it can no longer be guaranteed to make up the smaller margins with volume. Why? Because cheapasses will head over to Officeworks and buy from there because they're greedy about wanting 5%. Who wins? Officeworks wins. And you think you win too, right?

    Well think again. Do you think those smaller stores will continue doing good prices if they can't make up for it in volume? Of course not, otherwise they'd be out of business. Prices increase, so you get a good deal today, but in the long run, Officeworks and other stores with their price matching policies win, they form an oligopoly, they force other retailers into not being able to offer good prices.

    That's why I will never price match and I suggest others do the same. 5% or whatever isn't even a big deal. But you'd be paying for it big time in the long run. Purchase from whoever gives you the best price, they're treating you well and you should treat them well in return, that will ensure that retailers will continue to offer competitive prices.

    OP, I feel for you, your experience is negative and you shouldn't have to go through that, but if I were in your shoes, I'd just purchase from DCW, they seem like an honest and good store trying to offer great prices for their customers and they deserve your business for giving you that low price. Taking your business elsewhere and taking advantage of DCW's low price is just shunning them.

    • When u coming back to atarnotes brahhhh

    • I agree with every single word.

    • +40

      Hence OzBargain does not allow price match to be posted as a deal. We think the merchant with the best price should be rewarded, rather than being used to be price matched at a larger retailer.

    • I agree but tbh I'll happily price match JB with EB or DS with Officeworks.

    • Completely agree.

    • A reasonable argument but I actually do not think it is so easy to butcher every other business in your area using this method, because:
      1) You create a new low (5%) which means extremely small margins for yourself. And if you ever try to raise the price, you invite sharks from every direction to chew at your market share. Not immediately, but within a few weeks.

      2) Except it isn't even a new low, it is a price match. Meaning you steal a small fraction of the sales (from savvy customers) that may have gone to other businesses. But those businesses will probably still survive. Not everyone can be bothered to price match for a mere 5%. You only price match if it is worth the effort (because it's effort). And if e.g. it saves you 30 minutes drive to reach the next competitor, then it's worth it.

      3) Even if brick-and-mortar wants to raise the price, they cannot easily do it without losing customers because online prices keep them at bay. If the difference in price between online and brick-and-mortar become too great, people will simply buy online. And we know places like Officeworks do not price-match online shops.

      Unfortunately you cannot ask other big players in the field to 'agree' to a particular price. Because they betray you.

  • +4

    Just buy directly from the place with the lowest price.

    Why waste time jumping through hoops and having long drawn out arguments when you can just drive a bit further and reward the store offering the best price and no BS.

  • +1

    I was in a similar situation I went to a local HN Store as they were selling an item for $69 but when I asked about the item they were out of stock.

    I wasn't bothered about this and within 100m there is a Joyce Mayne Store, the employee was helpful and showed me the item. I asked if he would price match (Joyce Mayne has a Price beat guarantee and I asked for a price match) he asked which store and how much, my answer was HN & $69 as the item at Joyce Mayne was $98.00. He said he would go and look it up, he came back and said he was going to talk to another guy I'm guessing it was a manager.

    After discussing with the other guy he walked back over to me his answer was they couldn't price match because they apparently buy the item in for $92.00 each, that would mean they would lose to much money and that the local HN Store which was about a 100m walk down the car park was not in stock therefore they did not need to price match. I told him it was okay and walked off back down to the HN Store and put one on hold for me when it was restocked, I went in and bought it.

    But I don't understand when the item would be restocked at HN if I went straight back to JM if they would price match? Anyway I put a complaint in to the store, the manager tried to get in contact with me, but having called him to return the call twice I have been told he was not in store and I have just decided to not bother with JM anymore.

    • +4

      Gotta laugh at this one. You tried to price match Harvey Norman at Joyce Mayne which is owned by HN. It looks like Joycey is closing down which may be why they wouldn't price match. They are hard up.

      The big problem with HN is that many of the stores are franchised so you are effectively dealing with a local owner. You are pulling money directly out of his pocket. This explains the wide discrepancies in price matching among HN stores. Some owners see it as theft and others see it as a business opportunity.

      This also applies to other franchise units and The Good Guys especially.

      • I don't see any problems with trying to price match Harvey Norman at Joyce Mayne. HN didn't have stock and JM did, it was worth a try considering they are situated within 100m of each other.

        I do understand that HN is franchised, but the price of the item was stated in HN catalog and on their website as well so I would guess that the majority of the stores would be selling at the same price as well. But I do I agree that it could be seen as pulling money out of his pocket or a business opportunity like you said.

        Joyce Mayne's website states 'Best price guarantee' so if my local Harvey Norman store got stock would Joyce Mayne stand by their Best price guarantee?

  • +3

    Had a similar experience with Harvey Norman Castle hill. They refused to price match since it was well below their cost price.

    I ended up jumping on their website and talking to live chat whom directed me to the complaints section of the website and gave me the store managers email address. They eventually agreed to price match making it out like they were doing me a favour.

    I would personally send them an email and if you don't get the difference refunded to you, then I would lodge a complaint with fair trading for false advertising and use the copy of the email as evidence.

    • One of the ladies who works there was an absolute pain to deal with, when I tried to claim warranty a little while back.
      Edit. But I've had a good record with pricematching there.

  • +19

    support the company that originally offered a great price rather than let them miss out on a sale and give it to another that doesnt have good pricing.

    It does sound like you were being a bit of a dick as well, phone other stores while sitting with a sales manager.

    • +18

      Imagine how the poor DCW staff members felt, we are helping this guy get a cheaper price but the money is going to some one else.

      That said its crap what retailers can get away with

      • +13

        I agree. OP, you are kind of selfish in the way you execute a price match. If you don't inconvenience other stores then that's fine but you are wasting the time of the kind staff at DCW answering your telephone enquiry for a sale that DCW will not get. Sure, Harvey Norman have a legitimate price matching policy but where does it say DCW should pay for it with the cost of their time and labour.

        A DCW employee has to answer two telephone enquiries. Once when you called them to confirm that they have stock. A second time when the distrusting Harvey Norman Franchisee or manager checks they have stock.

        Please try to keep in mind there are more things than just the bottom dollar. Good service counts for something. These stores like DCW that offer great deals, very happily honour the sale, answer enquiries don't deserve to lose business to crappy retailers like Harvey Norman whose arm has to be twisted and have disrespectful staff.

        • +1

          I was already in the store for a DIFFERENT item that DCW did not have.

          THEN

          I wanted another item and found DCW had it at a good price.

          I was ALREADY AT HN buying one item - so I thought I'd match the second price.

          I didn't go all the way to HN for a price match when I could have just gone to DCW.

          If DCW had both items I would have done straight up straight to DCW.

  • +4

    Agree with PVA here, why don't you support the shop which has the cheaper price with your patronage instead of going to a store with an entrenched bureaucracy that's not designed to cater to bargain bottom dwellers.

    The manager obviously reached a conclusion that you were too expensive/unprofitable a customer and not to enter into a transaction with you thus saving his store time and money in the long run…whatever the merits of that decision.

    • in the long run the store will close and the manager will be terminated.

      • +2

        The store may or may not close but the manager won't be terminated because he decides certain customers are unprofitable.

        Using the Pareto principle for example, with the HN business model being what it is, 80% of it's profits come from 20% of it's customers. Bargain bottom feeders and price matches take up 80% of the time and contribute little of the profits.

        Identifying unprofitable customers and allocating resources to more profitable ones is fundamental business management. Whether the manager should have been as blatant as he was (at least according to the OP) is another thing, but having some customer in front of you for 30 minutes trying to shave margins isn't going to assist you in hitting those profit targets.

    • -2
      • Sigh * No-one seems to read all the information before posting their advice.

      I was already in the store for a DIFFERENT item that DCW did not have.

      THEN

      I wanted another item and found DCW had it at a good price.

      I was ALREADY AT HN buying one item - so I thought I'd match the second price.

      I didn't go all the way to HN for a price match when I could have just gone to DCW.

    • I'm not sure if you read the post but the store I was matching is not an online store.

      It's a proper shop front in Sydney. You can walk in and browse and ask questions and buy things

        • +2

          So then Harvey Norman is web based too because they also have a web site???

          Where is this going?

        • -8

          @Michegianni: it would be obvious that someone going in to Harvey Norman to price match POK isn't going to get it matched automatically with the floor staff. What you experienced with having to call supervisors etc and then having to argue it and then having it declined is what I would anticipate might happen in this situation.

      • +2

        I'm not sure if you read the post but the store I was matching is not an online store.
        It's a proper shop front in Sydney. You can walk in and browse and ask questions and buy things

        lol Some people should really do their research before posting. POK IS a B&M store, where "you can walk in and browse and ask questions and buy things." Just don't expect to be out of there in a hurry.

  • +1

    I bought a TV from The Good Guys on a particular morning. Paid for it and all, but hadn't picked it up as I was going to arrange my own means of getting it home.

    In the evening I hear Dick Smith were advertising it for a lot cheaper, say $500.

    Went to pick up the TV at Good Guys that evening and the best they could do was beat it by a $1. They wouldn't enact their 110% Price Guarantee even though I had paid for it. They said the transaction isn't complete until I take delivery of it. Couldn't be bothered arguing and left it at that.

    • +1

      I would still be happy with that as you had already purchased the item and saved $500+ on an aftersale

  • +2

    Worst culprits in my experience are Myer. 9 times out of 10 that I've tried to price match they have used their "unless below cost price" get out clause.

    One time after I emailed to complain about this I ended up in a lengthy debate with the Melbourne store manager who basically just gave lots of silly excuses. I told him that if they were consistently being undercut below their cost price then maybe they should look at getting new suppliers!

    Of course they won't actually tell you what the "cost price" actually is so you are supposed to just take them at their word.

    I've had successful no-quibble matches at JB, Harvey Norman (with DCW on a GoPro!), Dick Smith and Good Guys. Officeworks are slightly more work but they usually come through. But as I said Myer rarely match IME.

    • I had the same experience at Myer and ended up boycotting them for 3 years after that! I cant believe they let good customers just walk away and take their money to a competitor not to mention the loss of good will etc.

      • +2

        Ive never had a problem price matching at Myer. Myer has to actually be the easiest to deal with for price matching, returns etc.

        • +1

          what state?

      • +3

        If you are price matching below cost how are you a good customer? You are in fact a bad customer, from their point of view.

        • +1

          Then as I said, they need to get a better deal from their suppliers. Or better suppliers.

  • +21

    Harvey Norman Whyalla -SA refused to match JB HIFI's price on one of the recent Pioneer Home theatre packages. It was $400 under their ticket price. Manager says they will be selling at a loss (correct, that's business). Was 4:49, so he says, we are closed now anyway, so too late (very childish), I purchase a $1 cd sleeve packet (come back, nope your still open). Still refuses.

    So I then went and returned said sleeves, and then went and sat on the furniture, put my feet up, and rang JB- HIFI and ordered the gear (turns out they would throw in free delivery). Staff poor out the door at 5pm…except for the manager who's standing there waiting "sorry mate, just ordering at JB's". Order was done, but I told him I was on hold… Let him suffer for 10-15 mins, get up saying you were right, JB's was a better idea.

    Harvey's = Poor operator. Vote with your feet.

    • +1

      Agreed with you 100 %. Been experienced with very poor customer service too with Harvey Norman. I told my friends not to buy anything from them. The store manager deserved what you had done in response to him. Good on you.

  • +8

    Yeah, Lifehacker did a report about an ABC report that found the same conclusion - lowest price guarantees are full of shenanigans.

    http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2014/05/lowest-price-guarantees…

    I don't often buy anything inedible in shops but I have a short fuse for dishonest behaviour nonetheless. Sometimes you think if you just destroy on-line reputation you'll be safe but you'll be amazed how few people actually do research or are even aware of so-called lowest price guarantees.

    Living on OzBargain skews one's perception of what the average person actually knows about the deals around them. There are people that are still clueless about the $2.50 unlimited Sunday travel for everyone with Opal - and you'll still see irregular public transport users pulling out $14.80 return for the ferry to Manly on a Sunday. Tell these same people that they can top up a new Opal card for only $10 and travel every Sunday for a month and they'll reply "they only travel like 3 times a year on public transport so it doesn't matter…". There are people who use Uber yet have never claimed free credit. There are people who still lose their savings on monthly mobile plans and excessive data costs they started in, like, 2006. There are even those who buy travel insurance and internet domains without a code and yes there actually exist people who buy Monster HDMI cable. Surprisingly, a lot of these same people complain about money problems.

    So basically Harvey Norman's manager doesn't care about you. For every OzBargainer that comes in with in-depth knowledge of Australian Consumer Law he has one hundred others that just came from Domayne or Joyce Mayne with some inflated price in mind for a new 120-in screen. When you finally educate the masses on all the deals the established Brick and Mortar stores will either try and monopolise the local industry by establishing anti-competitive wholesaler agreements or maybe start introducing showrooming fees if they feel they can't compete (http://www.cnet.com/au/news/store-charges-5-showrooming-fee-…).

    • +2

      Government enforcement of trading laws would help, but all governments pick and choose what laws to enforce and for whom.

      This is why society is becoming lawless - because everyone knows the law is only remembered when it suits…

  • +5

    OP don't mean to be rude but you are one of the consumers that I hate. Price matching should only occur in few circumstances e.g. when you have gift cards expiring. You should only price beat.

    For gods sake support the retailer or business doing the right thing and giving the discounts in the first place. As others have said, you vote with your wallet and it drives competition forward.

    • +7

      I agree with you. But you can't hate the consumer for wanting to take up a legitimate offer extended by the retailer.

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