Harvey Norman Price Match Fiasco! Fed up with price matching! Retailers - grow a backbone!

I'm sick and tired of walking into stores that have a price matching policy advertised on their website yet I find places where, regardless of meeting all requirements for a price match - the store manager / staff still refuse to price match and give the most irrelevant and condescending reasoning behind their refusal.

I'm relatively thick skinned - however a lot of the times the negotiation can get extremely unpleasant leaving customers who have come in to purchase something very upset, disillusioned and unhappy (even when they walk out after purchasing something).

You begin to wonder why these policies are put in place - you would imagine that they are designed to give the customer extra benefit / positive experience for shopping at a store enticing them to haggle / request a price match, when really all they do is generate conflict and negativity between shoppers and staff leaving them demotivated to help one another out (in the end we just want both to be happy)

I understand that contacting the head office or fair trading will most likely result in the customer's favour - but why should consumers have to go through such a lengthy and convoluted process? If you are a business and are advertising that you have a price beat guarantee or a price matching policy - you should make the customer feel comfortable and happy about doing what you are enticing them to come to your store with.

It appears to me that store managers / owners need to train staff in detail on their own price matching policies, but also throw in some training about consumer law and give some examples where matching should be accepted / declined. I don't believe for a second that any staff members are ever fully trained specifically in these areas.


I've just had a crazy experience at a Harvey Norman at Domayne.

The first thing I was told was that the items I wanted weren't in stock after I just contacted the store 15 minutes ago and was told that they were. The member didn't go and look nor did they ask anyone they just tried to give me the flick. Granted, they apologised after I insisted they find who I spoke with and check and sure enough the items were brought out.

Then came the price match negotiation.

I was happy with the price they had on the first item - and asked if they would price match the second item.

The staff member, on their own computer, went online and searched shopbot and staticice for better pricing for me (unexpected and very friendly service). We together found that Digital Camera Warehouse were doing a decent price (approx $30 cheaper than the Harvey Norman price) and I requested a price match. The staff member told me the following:

  • The store must be a bricks and mortar store and not an online store
  • The item must be in stock and available for purchase
  • The store must be in Sydney

I rang the store and confirmed the following:

  • Digital Camera Warehouse has 3 bricks and mortar stores, 1 in Melb, 1 in Syd and 1 in Brisbane.
  • The item was in stock
  • The Sydney store was open and I spoke with staff there who confirmed the above.

The staff member went to the store manager and came back telling me that they won't price match.

I asked for the reason why and he said "We don't match this store, sorry"

I asked why they don't match the store and he did not answer and brought out his manager.

The store manager sat down and at first discussed one of our previous dealings where I was previously refused a price match when I attempted to purchase a completely different item at a completely different time. He said "I know who you are I recognise you from before"

I asked him why our previous dealings have anything to do with the purchase "I wanted to make today" which he didn't have an answer for. He moved on to go through the price matching policy on the website. At first - he tried to explain to me that the store I want to price match with is not a regular shopfront store. I asked him to explain and in his example he mentioned "Costco".

I told him that Costco is very different - they require a membership and an ABN to sign up before you can purchase anything from them and that the store I want to match with was as regular as any Harvey Norman / Officeworks / JB where you can simply walk in and purchase something. Furthermore, there were clearly marked shopfront stores with pictures and addresses and phone numbers on the DCW website.

Fumbling around and looking for another excuse, the store manager simply said "We don't match this store" and brought up the clauses in his price match policy online. He came to this section here:

6 (f) the identical product is advertised in classifieds, commercial resellers or distributors who sell direct to the public, parallel importers, grey importers, direct importers, fire or liquidation sales, rack, clearance and warehouse outlets;

Then he highlighted the last 2 words "warehouse outlets" and said to me that Digital Camera Warehouse is a warehouse outlet.

Fair enough - he sort of had a leg to stand on there but I then questioned the meaning of "warehouse" and went back to his example of Costco. I also questioned whether having the word "Warehouse" in the name means that they are a warehouse outlet. I told him "Surely Harvey Norman have a warehouse somewhere too?" and he said "Not that sells to the public".

At that point I decided I would call DCW and ask them if they are a warehouse outlet and whether they have a warehouse or not. The gentleman said that they have a warehouse that they get stock for their 3 shops but as such it's not a warehouse open to the public nor does it sell to the public.

I did this right in front of him (the HN store manager) - effectively providing enough information to clearly show that they are not a warehouse outlet such as "Costco" and that just like he explained about HN warehouse, it is not open to the public.

He said he still would not price match given this information and said "That person on the phone could be anyone and they could be saying anything. I'm not saying they are lying but they could be lying"

To which I replied - "Will you take 2 minutes to call their store yourself and maybe ask for a manager and confirm?"

He said that he doesn't have to do anything I ask him to do and still refuses to price match. He continually told me to ring head office and I would continually reply that it was a massive inconvenience to have to come back and jump through all of those hoops considering it was pretty clear that DCW were not a warehouse outlet.

We went around in circles for around 20 minutes, with the manager stalling and fumbling with his reasoning. I was very calm, collected and polite. I did not raise my voice or behave in a menacing manner I simply asked questions.

Finally the manager cracked and took not only the item I wanted to match but also the item I agreed to purchase (which had nothing to do with the match I wanted) and he said "I'm not going to sell this to you either" picked it up and walked off.

I was gobsmacked - and asked other staff around if they'll help me out or what was going on. No-one said a thing. I sat there in the hope he would come back - he came back and said he spoke with the Franchisee and would not sell me a anything in the store.

My partner then came to the table we were sitting at after browsing other items - and after telling her what was going on she asked "Will you sell anything to me? Can I buy it?"

The store manager then tried to tell her that she was also part of the conversation and would not sell anything to her - and after pleading to sell me the item because it was a Christmas present he allowed my partner to purchase it.

Overall a very messy, unpleasant and upsetting turn of events.

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Comments

    • -4

      Enjoy your hate, and those who believe in your hatred - them votes - enjoy yours too. What goes around comes around, and I hope you all enjoy that too.

  • Had the same issue with JB last year when trying to purchase a Ipad 4 when Dick Smith had them on Runout. Tried 3 JB's that all refused to price match for no obvious reason other than the fact that they didnt want to lose the profit. Final JB finally did and oddly made no hesitation. So sometimes it comes down to the sales person. They also refuse to price match lesser known stores such as MSY. It has to be a major out(the assumption being they have higher overheads and will be comparatively priced most of the time.

    • overheads - never seen that in a published policy. JB hifi has a local store policy, since they are all different why bother with them -even the same store varies from day to day. is it really a professional business when the brand is so random?

  • +1

    OP, have PM'ed you with details. Got a reply from HN via Facebook.

  • I've had a very very similar issue with Officeworks, who sometimes to match MSY, particularly on Logitech products. Officeworks insist that MSY parallel import the products, but the model numbers and product box is the exact same as what Officeworks is selling. Ditto some Microsoft hardware products and Sandisk memory cards. Sometimes the store doesn't care and just matches it, other times I get into arguments with the manager over the fine grained detail of their policy.

    The latest excuse Officeworks likes to give when they won't price match is that the store has to have the same return policy as them. e.g: price match a Sandisk SD card with MSY and they say "oh MSY won't let you return it with no questions asked like we do, sorry, no price match" - hardly any stores do this, so it's a great way to get out of price matching if they don't feel like it.

    Like others though, I've also noticed it often comes down to the salesperson/manager. Sometimes they just do it with no hassles once you show them the proof, other times it's like you're trying to personally rip them off.

  • +9

    I don't understand.. After all that, why did you still buy it at Harvey Norman? Why not just buy it at DCW? You went through all that and still gave HN your hard earned money. I just will never understand that.

    The minute the store told me they wont match DCW I would have been straight to DCW.

  • +14

    Stop rewarding stores that want to play games. DCW went out of their way to offer you the best price on a product, they deserve the business IMO.

    HN thought they'd try and screw you and others into paying more, why reward them.

  • Michegiain, I had the same experience as yours too. Thereafter I do not wish to make myself unhappy so never going for this" price matching" business. I also had refund problem with Harvey Norman store. I told their store manager / franchise owner that I won't buy any from his store. I find stores such as Target, Kmart, Myer have the best customer service esp. Target whose slogan" if you are not happy , we are not happy too " really carried into effect.

    • -2

      I can't understand how Myer is getting into this conversation. They have a policy of "all you see is RRP" and whereas they might claim to price-match, they are a retailer from another planet (make that a bygone era) who have no clue about the price of things in the real world. They seem to have brainwashed the sheep into believing they are getting better quality stuff if they buy it from Myer, but it's the same goods as sold by other stores at much better prices.

      • Myer has always price matched anything for me without batting an eyelid.

  • +13

    Well great news!

    The Franchisee himself called this morning.

    He was very apologetic, saying he couldn't understand why his store manager wouldn't match the price.

    He went on to say he was disappointed at the way I have been treated and organised a further $20 off the item price and a VIP courier to drop it off at his expense.

    I am very happy he has organised this for me.

    Merry Christmas everyone =]

    • +24

      Well great news!

      Hardly, you could have just went and bought it from DCW in the first place, you would have saved heaps of time running around, complaining and whinging and sucking up just to get to where you are now.

      The time you saved would more than make up that $20 and we wouldn't be here.

      Most importantly, you'd be supporting DCW for giving you a good price rather than giving your business to a store less deserving.

      • +6

        Have no idea why he is so intent on making Jerry Harvy's Christmas merry

      • -8

        It's costing me no more of my time than it did originally. The item is being sent to me at $20 cheaper than DCW and I am not paying for freight.

        On top of this - I have somewhat made a dent in what I believe will at some stage clarify price matching policies that attract customers to retail stores in general.

        • +30

          Yes it did, you had to muck around in store and argue with the manager and make countless phone calls. You had to complain on an internet forum about it. You had to deal with the franchisee guy. Obviously you have spent a lot of time and effort in getting that price. Or at least you are making it out to sound like you spent a lot of time.

          On top of this - I have somewhat made a dent in what I believe will at some stage clarify price matching policies that attract customers to retail stores in general.

          No you're not, did you completely ignore my post above.

          You didn't make a dent in any policies and what you're doing isn't attracting anyone to retail.

          What you have done is shunned DCW. They are a good and honest store offering customers a good price on an item that you want to buy. Don't you think they deserve your business for offering you a great price? What's more, they will probably treat you a lot better than HN, not dick around with you, offer you better service and advice and probably better after-sales support as well.

          And what do you do? You take your business elsewhere, to a store that has given you difficulty and pushed you around.

          What a dick, dick move buddy. Complete dick move to DCW, for taking advantage of their great price, and other customers. All that will happen if everyone was like you would be DCW and the like no longer offering good prices, so you'll end up paying more.

          You've done the exact opposite of what you intended to do. Nobody is being attracted to retail for this.

        • @paulsterio:
          I think your attempt to find meaning out of chaos is confusing you.

          They attempted to take up an advertised price matching policy for a variety of reasons including time.

          They couldn't access the advertised offer, and were then bullied and abused by HN.

          What HN did was illegal. Thats a fact. Being 'attracted to retail' gives you away - people go into retail to make money. Why is that of concern to ozbargain? Its not - breaking consumer laws is. Happy Christmas.

        • +13

          @rolly2112:

          I think you, as well as the OP, have missed my point. The OP has very conveniently avoided any post which points out what he is doing wrong.

          The issue which I raised was one of fairness towards DCW and smaller retailers. Why do you think retailers offer sales? To make a sale! It's pretty obvious isn't it? It's the same word. When DCW offers you a good price, and you take advantage of that good price to buy from elsewhere, you are ripping off DCW.

          Do you think a company which gets consistently ripped off is going to continue offering sales? No, because they're not making up for it in volume. Guess what happens when they can't compete with HN because cheapasses who aren't willing to travel a little further or pay for shipping won't buy from them? They go out of business.

          What does that mean for everyone? Higher prices. Stop thinking about the immediate savings and think about the long term ramifications of what you are doing.

          If you think I'm fabricating all of this, I'll give you a very, very solid example of where price-beating has killed an industry. Bunnings Warehouse. I'm not sure how old you are, but remember back when we had a litany of home hardware stores including Bunnings, Mitre10, local shops as well as specialty shops which specialised in specific items such as power tools, wood, paint…etc. Do you remember when Dulux had their own paint shops?

          Where are they all now? Dead, almost dead, or confined to irrelevance. Why? Bunnings and their price-matching.

          Thank god there's Masters these days to compete with Bunnings, but just before Masters was big, Bunnings could charge whatever they wanted on a lot of items because there wasn't anywhere else to buy them from.

          This isn't to mention that OP wasted DCW's staff's time. If OP is so busy that he can't make it to DCW, then get it shipped - it's not expensive.

          If he has the time (which clearly he does, as he's spent far more time complaining and messing around with HN), then just go to DCW and buy it from them. They're offering a good deal, they deserve the business.

          It's not even just that, but I don't think you or OP are aware of the risks when small specialist stores such as DCW offer discounts on their bread and butter products. Unlike HN or JB, they only sell camera gear, they can't offer you good prices and lure you in to try to sell you a TV, a set of speakers and a couple of Monster HDMI cables to go with it.

          OP is typical of a mindset of some modern consumers who are hell-bent on giving their money to large chain stores which open up near them because of convenience, killing off smaller retail stores which offer great service and selection and then going on to have a bitch and a whinge when everything then becomes overpriced and service is absolute crap and garbage.

          OP, WAKE UP, HN treated you like bloody trash and you're still giving them your money. No wonder they continue to treat customers like garbage, cheapasses keep wanting to buy from them. Vote with your wallet, please.

          This is not to mention the benefits of buying from a small retailer rather than HN, such as more knowledgeable staff, wider selection of specialty gear…etc.

        • +2

          @paulsterio:

          you wrong there, you have put 2 and 2 together and ended up with 5. i mean 5 is just 4 + 1 right? but your wrong.

          they didnt all go out of business becasue cheapasses were price matching and saving a few cents on nails. Major corporations bought them out, or had lower prices accross the board that other companies didnt or couldnt compete with.

          if what your saying is true then HN should have killed of MSY long ago.

          now competition, willingness and ability to change hurt them, while there is an impact of price matching, and thats to take sales away from other players, its so minute that you conclusion is totally wrong as so is getting others to pay more FOR NO GOOD REASON. Not only that, who employs more? HN or other places? i bet ya its HN.

        • @T1OOO:

          if what your saying is true then HN should have killed of MSY long ago.

          Are you kidding me? HN sells around 5% of what MSY sells.

          now competition, willingness and ability to change hurt them, while there is an impact of price matching, and thats to take sales away from other players, its so minute that you conclusion is totally wrong as so is getting others to pay more FOR NO GOOD REASON. Not only that, who employs more? HN or other places? i bet ya its HN.

          That's not really my point - if a friend treated you like garbage would you be their friend? HN treated OP like garbage and he's more than happy to continue giving them his business - that's why they treat people like garbage, they keep coming back!

        • +2

          @paulsterio:

          sorry i dont agree, that hasn’t been my experience at all either… iv hear the horror stories too.

          i chose to buy from Harvey Norman for a few things rather than online as well.

          1. They do price match.
          2. id rather get the product right now then wait and pay shipping
          3. if you buy now and find a price cheaper they will match it.
          4. Local warrenty for grey import items.

          i did this with my iconia a500 tablet at office works, i got back $70 and on my tablet that i price matched form another state it was $1399 they price matched $1260 and then i saw it cheaper, just receipt some guy bought and it was on OZbargain, the franchisee contacted me and said to come in and honoured it.

          i find generally if you are reasonable, explain your situation, they are willing to meet you half way and treat you decent. Just like any other place around.

          As for the HN / MSY thing,.. they sell only 5% of those things, well gee wizz they need to expand and put them out of business!

          No the point WAS that price matching had zero effect of them going out of business your conclusion was correct but your reasoning was flawed. That was the point, and why it doesn’t hold true for this case.

          Also, another funny thing, goodguys said i could take a product and if it dosnt work or i dont like it i have 7 days to bring it back. I explained it to the girl taking it back what i was told that "if it didnt work OR i changed my mind i could bring it back" she tried to interrupt me before i got to the OR part,.. but was sorted out and boy i brought it in a terrible state, box ripped , leaking, wet, im surprised they did take it back.. it was a portable room conditioner and was hard to get back in…….eeekkkk

          they arnt all bad, some people just need better social skills.

          its not like the friend situation you speak of, if a hot chick was sleeping with you and you got treated like crap would you stil continue to "do business" with her? i say i would. ;-)

        • @T1OOO:

          i find generally if you are reasonable, explain your situation, they are willing to meet you half way and treat you decent. Just like any other place around.

          That's true, but I'm speaking for OP's case. If you've had good experiences with retailers, that's great, I'm sure we all love to have great experiences. But the problem is, people don't vote with their wallets. There are people, who even after getting treated like garbage, still come back and give their money to these retailers.

          No the point WAS that price matching had zero effect of them going out of business your conclusion was correct but your reasoning was flawed. That was the point, and why it doesn’t hold true for this case.

          I wouldn't say so. It's obvious that price matching will have a negative impact on the retail industry as it encourages people to buy from the big chain stores rather than from smaller boutique stores. It's not just with Bunnings. What about with boutique electronics stores, where are all of them now? Pretty much dead, right?

          The problem is, people need to take action rather than whinge and whine. How often do we hear people complaining about it being tough for small business, what about those who complain that they're getting crap service from chain stores? The problem is that we have smaller stores who will offer better service and a better experience, but we're not willing to go out of our way to get there or to help them out, even when they offer great prices.

          they arnt all bad, some people just need better social skills.

          Of course not, but some are bad, e.g. OP's situation here.

          its not like the friend situation you speak of, if a hot chick was sleeping with you and you got treated like crap would you stil continue to "do business" with her? i say i would. ;-)

          I wouldn't, to continue "doing business" shows a lack of integrity, which is something I think is missing a lot in the real world. Perfect example is here, OP going back to HN after they treated him like crap because they offered him $20 less than DCW. Completely no integrity. If I were OP, I'd go to DCW and purchase even if HN offered me $20 off, because I have integrity and I don't give my money to retailers who have been assholes to me.

        • @paulsterio:

          The manager in this case was a prick,.. thats it, there are many around, in big and small places. This case he was, and head office dont want that, bad pr and ultimately serves no purpose, he perhaps wanted to save an extra $20 who knows what he was thinking the greedy pig,.. perhaps had a bad day or is rotten to the core, he will get delt with. its not in HN's interest to let that stuff go, hes obviously doing it behind their back and got sprung finally. After all they are billion dollar companies backed by even bigger parent multi nationals usually,.. they have set poicies, its the managers that stuffed up, the franchisee obv sorted it out, but they are under pressure to make money too,..

          any even, price matching might play a minor factor in it, but isnt the reason why they went out of business,… competition was for sure.

        • +1

          @paulsterio: I think you are being absurd with your insulting comments to the OP and I am baffled as to why you got so many upvotes. I bet you do most of your grocery shopping at either Woolworths, Coles or Aldi which makes you such a hypocrite. I could use so many more examples but I hate typing on a mobile. Good day sir.

        • +1

          @snagseb: Do you understand that price-matching is a negative policy and what OP has done is a really dick move to DCW? I'm not going to argue, but if DCW offers the best price, then he should buy it at DCW.

          I do the same. I shop for groceries wherever I get the best price. If I get the best price on milk at Woolworths, I go to Woolworths. I don't go to Coles and ask them to match Woolworth's price.

          The upvotes come from reasonable OzBargainers who love great deals and retailers who offer great deals. That's one of the reasons why our community exists. It's not simply just to find the best deals around, but we are also supporting small business, those who bring us great deals and by buying from stores which offer great deals and service, we ensure more in the future. It's not hard to understand.

        • +1

          @paulsterio: Just shopping at Woolworths or Coles is not supporting bakeries, butchers etc, so your point is not really valid. It is a matter of convenience which is why you shop at a food chain. The same reason OP went to HN. I am all for supporting small business within reason, but the OzBargain community is ruthless. Most will not go out of their way to inconvenience themselves, so don't kid yourself.

        • @snagseb: No, you are using a wrong example. Shopping wherever the price is cheapest is okay, it reflects that Coles and Woolworths have a better supply chain and buying power than the small guys, so they can offer it for a better price.

          Let's say that one day, a small bakery offers a special, 20 cents for a loaf of bread. It would be wrong for me to go to Woolworths and try to get them to match that price and be a dick to the bakery. That's the difference between your argument and mine.

          Your argument is to support the small guys regardless of the price. That's a big ask. I completely understand that most people can't afford to do that. I can't and I certainly don't expect others to.

          However, my argument is to support the small guys when they offer better prices. That's not a big ask, because you're not spending anything more to support the small guys. I don't think you can understand that. If you don't lose anything by helping the small guys, bar a bit of inconvenience, why not?

          I would also add that it's probably more convenient and less time consuming to just help the small guys and not bother with price matching at all. It works out nicely for me.

        • +1

          @paulsterio: Go ahead and compare any standard butcher prices to Woolworths or Coles and tell me I'm wrong.

        • @snagseb: I buy most of my meats (apart from mince) from butchers. So that's a pretty moot point.

        • +1

          @paulsterio:
          Sure you do. I bet you buy all your bread from bakeries too and head down to the local farm for some fresh milk.

        • @snagseb: Read my post again.

          However, my argument is to support the small guys when they offer better prices.

          What bakeries sell cheaper bread than the 85c loafs at Woolworths and what local farm sells cheaper milk?

          Are you so illiterate you can't see the folly of your argument?

        • +1

          @paulsterio: No, I thought by my lack of a detailed response it was obvious I cannot be bothered. We obviously have different views on this. Doesn't excuse your blatant insults to me and the OP.

    • So in other words someone informed the franchisee of this post and they went "oh shit".

      Well, at least you got what you wanted I guess.

    • OP, HN's Facebook team would like to know which HN Domayne this happened at to have a word with the store manager. Care to tell us all which one it was?

      • It has already been dealt with by the Franchisee and through HN complaints avenue.

        Check your PM

        • and what has happened?

  • Is the purpose of price matching to save time and be more convenient?

    • That's what it does for me.

      Do you like driving 25 minutes each way to another store when you might not have to?

      Remember they had a great deal on the first item which I wanted to buy which DCW did not have.

      Then - when I went for the second item it was more expensive.

      Best case scenario you get the second item matched and don't have to go to 2 different places.

    • +2

      Or to use store cards up or to get loyalty points or maybe use something like an Amex cash back offer.

      There are a number of possible reasons.

  • +1

    I wonder how he'd cope with Hairhouse Warehouse…it's just a name. But you wasted so much time in HN.
    I just go to HN now to browse and get a feel for the items and then go shop elsewhere/online because they make it too hard to shop. Sometimes I might get a good salesman in HN and they will do the dealing and then they get the sale…but it's not as common as it once was in my book.

  • +8

    Why get so wound up and upset with these Harvey Norman Clowns; do yourself a favour and never go back again. Support the small businesses who offer the lower prices in the first place.

  • +3

    Had the same experience, and manager acting all stupid…decided not to buy from HN ever since..

  • +1

    We had a terrible experience a number of years ago with HN when purchasing an oven. The cost with delivery was $3000. After 3 weeks it hadn't arrived - followed up & the following week our paid for order arrived - wrong oven -more phone calls - following week next oven arrived to be exchanged with the first wrong delivery - again wrong oven - more phone calls. Finally after almost 8 weeks the correct oven did arrive. But not once during all this time was there an apology for their mistake. We have never shopped there since.

  • +2

    FWIW, at Officeworks we have just been through a new training package from head office with regards to price matching, so hopefully you'll get fewer of these store manager/staff crusaders who refuse to price match on any grounds, and more staff who are more than happy to do it to keep the customers happy and coming back.

    • and the day after they went back to their old ways………

  • +1

    I had a price matching issue at the WARRNAMBOOL Harvey Norman, met every single requirement outlined on their own website but still refused to honor it. That'll be the last time I ever shop at HN.

  • +3

    The loser is DCW. Good luck to the OP.

  • +20

    My last price matching incident was not nearly as entertaining. But equally ridiculous.

    Me: do you price match websites
    Dick Smith Marion Sa: yes
    Me: ok can you please tell me if you will match this (holds up smart phone)
    Dick Smith Marion Sa: oh our own website, no no we can't do that, that's a separate business, we only match other websites, not the Dick Smith website.

    Dse=fail

    • LOLOL that's GOLD!

    • +2

      I had exactly the same experience for a recent 1-day online DickSmith sale for a $2.95 HDMI cable (reduced from $45):
      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/169258

      The salesman checked the DickSmith website and saw the price but said he couldn't price match it as it was severely under their cost price. Recommended that I could purchase it through the online website using their PC or on my mobile.

      Weird because on previous DS sales the local staff have confidently told me that anything I see on the website they can discount in their system.

      • +1

        lol below their cost price…as if

        • Cost price is only what is entered on the system at a single point in time - it changes

          Retail involves risk

          Australian retailers don't like risk, its a fixed event……. supported by bent pollies, who are also on a sure thing - pension health care travel expenses etc. for life.

          the similarities/ synchronicity are in your face.

        • @rolly2112: You really think any retailer is paying over $5 for an HDMI cable? lol

  • +2

    I have been at a Harvey Norman in 2011 and dealt with an idiot store manager and haven't been back since and never will set foot into HN store again. Thank god for online so i don't have to deal with such clowns anymore.

  • -1

    My first and last price beat experience - showed Officeworks an item in the Office National catalogue to beat. They scratched their heads for 5 minutes wondering why their system had a different price to the catalogue.

    I was then confused until it hit me that they didn't realise the 1/2" thick catalogue in front of them wasn't theirs.

  • +1

    I don't feel the urge to ever buy from Harvey Norman again after this. What an arrogant and incompetent manager breaking price matching policy and wasting everyone's time.

  • +2

    I always have bad experience about BS 'price match" with TGG, JB Hifi and Harvey Norman. The common replies are " We can't sell at that price, we'd make loss if we do", "if that store is cheaper than us, why don't you come and buy at that store", "we only compete with HN, TGG and JB Hifi, not others"….some even do dirty and cheap trick, make me wait for more than half an hour to get their manager come because he is "busy" now ( I guess he was sitting in the room watching surveillance camera". The moral is, if you have all the time and energy, go to report and follow until the end. Otherwise, just ignore them, and don't come back. Don't waste your time there to argue or even near-like begging to buy something from them

  • +2

    I like this thread.

    its good to read about how many paying customers get treated like crap, even at Christmas, despite whats written on T&c's - its always good to know you're one of many.

    A quick scan appears to reveal that there a few mentions of limited store choices, tyranny of distance etc which drives much of the standover retail crap here in the land of Oz, and even fewer mentions of the deliberate eradication of fair trading enforcement, fair trading tribunals and the absence of consumer action by the overpaid accc.

    If there was no police and everyone was getting mugged, burgled or their car stolen - well this does happen now in some places….. there would be a demand for action from the pollies, but these days it happens in all the so called price matching stores, and shopping centres.

    You get gouged and treated like scum if you object, so complain to your pollies about this illegal activity, shop online, and spend as little as possible in those stores that refuse to sell to you because you highlight their illegal advertising.

    If you're an australian you know to stand up, and how many of these standover managers have got the guts to go to court, cause few retailers want this kind of publicity.

    climb off soapbox, say happy christmas to anyone who bothered to read this, and wish you all the luck in the world if you try - cause all anyone can do is try…

  • +2

    Gerry Harvey thinks that no GST on online purchases under $1000 is what is killing his business.

    No, Gerry, incompetent staff and aggressively inflated prices is what is killing retail.

    HN has always had a pretty poor reputation. Service and pricing are both things that people complain about.

  • +1

    I've experienced similar myself, basically what is supposed to be a policy to entice more business is in fact doing the opposite by the harvey normans employee's attitute towards customers. Sure they can refuse service, but that does not put them in good stead at all. It also reflects poorly on their brand, i would report that guy for sure to fair trading and the head office. In fact i would suggest they were dismissed from their position. The fact they have that policy in place and then refuse to follow it, is bait and switch tactics which are expressly prohibited by consumer affair laws if in NSW, not sure about other states.

  • I guess it depends on the store manager, if you have a good rapport with them and if they're friendly they will price match.

  • Try getting Myer to pricematch - I will mint a medal for you.

    • they price-matched the iPad 4 for me, two years ago… Target had 5% off, I went to Myer because I had gift cards and bonus gift cards…

      can I have my medal? :)

      • Wow impressive - where shall I send it to?

        I find they generally say "that price is beneath our cost". Perhaps it is just the manner in which I ask or my expectations are too high. :o))

      • what state?

    • +1

      I also got myer to pricematch a few years back -
      I followed these steps:
      1. Read up at choice.com.au on the best microwave ovens
      2. Searched for the best price online
      3. Asked Myer to pricematch
      cha-ching! :D

  • +1

    Had a similar situation with Harvey Norman at Domayne in Auburn, Sydney.

    Tried to price match this deal https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/144949 (Breville Microwave for $199 - HN selling for $369)

    Sales staff and managers repeatedly told it was too cheap and they would not sell it to me - even standing under a huge banner 'We will not be beaten on price'

    Stand-off ensued and the microwave was even in stock at local Myer stores.

    Left the store never to return. Kudos to the guys at the real Harvey Norman store at Auburn who price matched it though

    • So the local Myer stores had the oven in stock, but you still went to two different Harvey Normans rather than just buy from Myer? Er, why?

      • The stores closest to me were sold out - but other stores in Sydney had stock…

  • +1

    My friend is a manager for a very large retail chain in Australia, I've heard him several times tell stories of customers walking in to price match, he engages them, however when it isn't possible for a number of reasons he's perplexed why they are so reluctant to go to the originally advertised store…I haven't done price matching in almost 10 years, if it is cheaper somewhere else, then go and buy it there.

    • Why am I not surprised you miss out location and store name ………….?

    • +3

      That is not the point: if you do not want to price match don't advertise that you will price match.

      If you do advertise that you price match expect **** to come back at you if you refuse to. Hopefully that means being fined an appropriate amount to make it more than just a "cost of doing shonky business".

    • +1

      You're not wrong, just an ass. Sorry

  • +2

    You're putting too much effort into this. If it was me, I would never go there again and just bad mouth them to people at any given opportunity. I would be telling this to the managers face as I walked out. There are plenty of stores around that will give you a better price and you don't have to bother with haggling with a manager to make them stand behind their word.

    Otherwise if you really have a bee in your bonnet ask the manager for his full name and job title and call the head office explaining how the manager is a dick.

  • +1

    Wow, that is amazing.

    Sorry I didn't read any of the comments but I really suggest threatening them with reporting to the relevant consumer protection body and then immediately doing so if they don't honour the agreement. And I mean 2 minutes into the "negotiation" (seriously?) not 20 minutes like you waited…

    At the end of the day I 100% agree with you: they shouldn't advertise a price match policy if they aren't going to be reasonable about actually doing it.

  • Should take in the advertisement for the Camera and then ask to price match.

    You can do this up to 7 days after the sale.

    I would email Head Office about this so he is reprimanded.

  • If it makes you guys happy, I belted the franchise owner of a Harvey Norman store last year over a failed price match. I won't go into it any further but all I'll say is I gave it to him good.

    • Not that I condone violence, but I have to hear this story.

      If you don't want to type too much, just bullet-point the highlights.

        • +2

          Wow, fighting and steeping that low (being racist) over a price match.

        • +9

          Changed my mind. Now I wish you didn't tell me.

          I thought you were going to tell me a story about you defending yourself against some (profanity) manager. Frankly, it sounds like you were the agitator and the aggressor. On top of it all, the law did nothing about it.

          Do you generally deal with people this way when you don't get your way?

        • -3

          @Juddy:
          Yes

        • +2

          @eneloop:
          What you belt people when you don't get what you want?
          So you have the emotional intelligence of a 3 year old? Are you proud of that? Thing about going around with a hard on, getting in fights… one day there's always a bigger dog with a meaner bite in the fight. Always. You'll end up busted up in hospital. Better change your ways, son.
          Well written up and interesting, although alarming to read.

        • -1

          @King Tightarse:
          You being judgmental and condescending isnt much better.

        • @thedude23:
          Yeah, it's pretty different.
          Comment in forum vs bashing people. See the difference?

        • @King Tightarse: I never said it was the same. Neither are snide comebacks.

          Im done. Enjoy your moral high ground.

        • @thedude23:
          Nothing snide about my comment. Just a plain and open comparison.
          You seem to totally miss the point so I'll spell it out for you. "I think bashing people over minor disagreements is wrong.".
          It's that basic enough for you?

        • +2

          Racist rants and physical abuse are actions unbecoming of an eneloop battery.

        • +1

          Mate, just because you can throw an uppercut or a right hook doesn't mean you're a hotshot. You're a pussy for picking fights with people who don't want to fight you. Why don't you go and pick fights with a group of islander guys? Oh yeah, because they'll probably beat the crap out of a turd like you.

        • @King Tightarse:

          I read the story like this:

          eneloop - comment, comment, racist comment @ HN

          HN Store owner - physical touch, push, escalating situation - one step further than eneloop

          eneloop - reacting in kind

          It was HN who escalated it. Eneloop was using his words, HN grabbed him and it was game on.

          See the difference? Comment in public vs physical confrontation initiated by staff?

        • @bigjezza:

          Eneloop started it, HN may have escalated it.

          Eneloop is still the immature 5 yr old here. Its one thing swearing and calling someone a mofo or something, being racist is over the line imo. Equivalent to punching someone in the heart imo.

        • @bigjezza:
          HN staff made the first contact in attempting to escort him out, maybe but by that point that the police had been called and he was challenging people to "sort it out" outside IE fight him. The "physical contact" was the owner trying to get Eneloop to leave as he was swearing and going racial abuse to the Indian staff while the police were on the way. Pretty different from punching people in the head.
          I would never support HN staff, they are often completely offensive arseholes but hitting people over a price match is ridiculous.

        • @King Tightarse:

          Relax guys I'm no hotshot or bully or anything. I stick up for myself that's all. I don't go look for fights and at the same time I don't let anyone try to undermine me. 90% of people live their lives like a pussy, they get bent over, shafted treated like shit and taken for a ride, but never stick up for themselves. I know you don't go out beating people up but let me tell you some people deserve a good beating

        • @eneloop:

          I stick up for myself that's all. I don't go look for fights and at the same time I don't let anyone try to undermine me. 90% of people live their lives like a pussy, they get bent over, shafted treated like shit and taken for a ride, but never stick up for themselves.

          Sticking up for yourself with an iron fist only lands you in two places. You either go to jail one day when you accidentally knock someone into a gutter and they die. Or you'll end up in hospital when you get into an encounter with the wrong guy.

          And please, you were looking for a fight, don't try to deny it. You could have resolved the issue peacefully through ACCC, through the legal system and through the right and proper methods. But no, you chose to act like an asshole, you racially abused another person and you lured him into a fight and you hit him.

          Good on you, well done, that's what kids in primary school and denigrate scums do. Next time someone disagrees with you, I hope they give you a good whack because that's the kind of vigilante justice you seem to agree with.

        • +1

          @eneloop:
          I think in Australia twenty years or so ago everyone would agree with you, but times have changed. We have all seen the "One Punch" campaigns.
          I 50% agree and 50% strongly disagree with you. Like so:
          Standing up for yourself: good. Being brave and having a backbone: good. Racially abusing someone: bad. Using violence to resolve an argument: bad - one day there will be someone who's got more training and maybe less restraint. Then what? Its a losing strategy.
          You wrote it up and took the initiative to share your story, so thats good too.

        • Wait a sec. Who kissed him? Was it you?!?!

  • +2

    I'll never shop at Hardly Normal again - some disgraceful service from a number of stores; smug sarcastic attitudes when it comes to price matching does my head in. I saved about $200 buying a Galaxy Note from BingLee compared to trying to get a price match with HN (since I'm in VIC). I was told "What are you waiting for? Go and buy it from them?"

    Me: "OK. No worries!"

    • +1

      Hi, Roosta,

      You are not alone. I got almost the same treatment in a H..N. Store in Victoria. . Their on ground staff are hopeless, sarcastic to costumers. I told them I won't buy anything from their store henceforth. Their store manager is hopelessly unhelpful .

      • Good work. More should follow suit. Tell them where to stick it…Or for those with more patience, write to head office and take a few examples with you - if its laughed off and tossed in the bin - well then, that speaks volumes as to where HN is heading as retail begins its gradual nosedive.

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