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Direct link to the AAA batteries $19.96 here
8 pack of Tropical AAs here
The standard charger and 4x AA $14.99 here SOLD OUT Now back in stock!
But i highly recommend the FAST CHARGER, still available from Masters here. If anyone actually takes the $76 fairmaiden "Truck Delivery" option please add your comments on the service :)
Good rundown of why the fast charger is better here
Nope, that was my bad. If i'm one thing it's lazy. Was copying the txt from the last deal and a
came over. Link fixed now
There always seems to be lots of discussion here about these Eneloop batteries.
What's the big deal about them?
I have no end of problems with rechargables. They just do not work for me.
But I just noticed the other day that the Energiser AA's that I have are only 1.2volts, not 1.5 volts. Guess that explains why they just don't work in so many things. Also have some Duracells, but can't put my hand on them right this minute, so not sure what they are, but suspect they are the same.
Are these Eneloops full strength batteries?
All rechargables are 1.2V
Not all. There are also NiZn (Nickel-Zinc) batteries, that apparently output 1.65V, 1.85V peak when freshly charged. This is higher than the 1.5V of alkaline batteries, and might be high enough to damage some equipment.
Advantages:
- 1.65V per cell over most of the battery's discharge (from what I have read, I haven't tried these myself)
- apparently lighter in weight that NiMh, which could be useful in hand-held cameras
- no toxic metals used (although AFAIK NiMh batteries are the same, but not so NiCd batteries)
Disadvantages:
- lower life, 200-300 cycles
- lower mAh rating, but similar POWER rating to Eneloops. See compaison below for explanation.
- haven't seen them for sale in Australia
- [edit] need a special charger
Where I have seen them:
http://www.dx.com/p/powergenix-rechargeable-4-x-1-6v-2500mah…
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__618__85__Batterie…
http://www.amazon.com/PowerGenix-PGX-4AAZiNc-1-6v-Voltage-Re…
A good and thorough comparison of Eneloops versus NiZn batteries:
http://www.amazon.com/review/RQFY1NUK4L58V
1.85V! Intereting but no thanks. I wouldn't want to put that in anything I valued.
Energizer Lithiums are 1.7V (at low load) for most of their life, and I haven't heard of anything damaged by those. Looks like they might be 1.8V with no load. See the start of the "Discharge profile" for 1mA:
http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/l91.pdf
But I agree, 1.85 is higher again. A bit risky.
Nvm
The main difference between Eneloops and most other rechargeable is that they are Low Discharge Batteries (LSD). This means they behave like alkalines by holding their charge for much longer, which has been the negative with most other NiMh and NiCd batteries, which do not hold their charge well over time.
Most rechargeable Energizers and Duracells are not LSD. Most have higher Mahs, so are great for using immediately, otherwise, if you use the battery sporadically and/or over a period of time, you will get much more life out of a lower Mah LSD battery, due to less loss of energy over time.
There are many brands of LSD batteries on the market, alot from China, but Eneloops are made in Japan, have a solid reputation and first to market with this technology.
Rechargeable batteries are less likely to leak compared to alkaline and heavy duty, which can easily corrode and damage valuable equipments. Yes, they do have lower voltage, but still work in most equipments and are more environmentally friendly.
Eneloops are just like other rechargeable batteries except not utter crap.
They don't run out of charge if you leave them in a torch and don't use it for a month (this is called LSD, Low Self-Discharge), and they don't just run out in a a quarter of the time normal batteries take if you use them a lot.
most rechargables are only 1.2v, Nicad, NiMH etc
The standard disposable "dry cells" are 1.5v.
Rechargable can cause issues with the lower voltage in some applications BUT they hold a fairly constant 1.2v then go "flat quickly" as opposed to standard batteries that reduce the voltage over time as they discharge.
If you "short out" a rechargable like an eneloop etc you will deffinately find it to be "full strength"….lol
They claim to be made in Japan and has better lasting life in retaining capacity than rival brand,
So if you use it rapidly, able to blow 400 plus charge cycle within one year, then it won't appear so attractive, but if you intend for them to last for 3 plus years and still has some half the capacity after three years, then it is a better investment.
In theory, typical recharge batteries has a 18 month half life in retaining charge capacity, meaning it will only have 60 percent left after a year and a half or so… Even you don't use it,
If you need batteries so much you're charging more than once per day for a year then I'd say eneloops are the only way to go. Work out what that would cost you in disposables…
based on this deal that 1 AA battery would cost you $116.85 if you needed 500 of them for the year. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/139368
edit: just did wotk that out
This must be fate, I woke up last night in a cold sweat thinking "I need more batteries"
thanks, bought my first pack of 8x AA
woha MEMBER SINCE 2008! Just "bought" your first pack. "opened" I would have believed… :)
I have been using Energizer rechargeable all this time,
had enough of them, don't hold charge over long periods.
been waiting for a AAA deal. thanks OP
Damn!
Am keen for AAA's, but it's hard to justify 8 batteries for $20 after getting 20 AA's plus a charger for $26:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/135845#comment-1871367
…but I know AAA's have only been this cheap delivered once or twice before, and I can't see a "16 for $20" deal happening anytime soon lol…
Just get the Aldi 4 pack AAA for $6.99. They are LSD also.
Previous comments say that they need to be used though. Not stored for a long time.
Previous comments say that they need to be used though. Not stored for a long time.
Just spit-balling here, but doesn't that kinda defeat the purpose of a LSD battery?
FYI You can get 8 AAA from Hobbyking AU posted for about $18 any day of the week. The Hobbyking batteries have been tested to be of high capacity (consistent with spec) and low discharge like the eneloops here.
I have a heap of Turnigy AAA's, yes they're good; but if you're talking about $20 for Eneloop (incl local delivery) vs Hobbyking (extremely slow international shipping) for $18, it's kind of a no-brainer! ;)
*Hobbyking has a warehouse in NSW and the batteries I mentioned are express couriered.
$22.75 from their NSW warehouse.
When I last ordered from Hobbyking, the stock was supposedly ordered from the NSW warehouse…didn't stop it apparently being shipped via Singapore more than a month later though, IIRC.
My first pack also, was waiting for a good deal with a charger, thanks OP!
Thanks, these should go well with a wireless mouse and keyboard?
Good question. Here's your answer: No, on a cost basis compared to a cheap alkaline.
Here is the detail:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/144148
While that comparison is good, don't understate the possibility of the alkaline batteries leaking inside the keyboard, and the price (in money AND time) of repairing/replacing the keyboard. This is mentioned in the comparison, but not fully explained.
When NiMh batteries go flat, NOTHING HAPPENS. They never melt down. More expensive alkaline batteries come with a claim that they will "replace or repair any item damaged by the batteries" - but if you use those batteries, then the price comparison comes out in favour of the NiMh batteries.
After having a few remote controls rendered useless, and then finding I couldn't fully operate the TV/DVD/stereo without a remote control, I now use low-self-discharge batteries in all my remote controls, mice and keyboards. And wall clocks too. Set a reminder in Google Calendar to charge them all during Christmas holidays.
And since I have LSD NiMh batteries in EVERYTHING, I have a ready source of "spare" batteries for when my mouse/keyboard batteries go flat. Just borrow them from a remote control while charging the flat batteries.
When NiMh batteries go flat, NOTHING HAPPENS. They never melt down.
Not true. It's very uncommon, but I've had a set of AAA NiMH cells leak in my Panasonic cordless phone after being left idle for a while. NiMH cells can definitely leak, but it's not something I'd be worried about.
Set a reminder in Google Calendar to charge them all during Christmas holidays.
You could also set a reminder to change all the 30c alkaline AAs in the remotes. They won't leak if you don't run them down. :)
Yes, There are other concerns (environmental etc) with disposable batteries. But the disposable are certainly going to be cheaper.
That deal on 23c batteries was from Eveready, so you would be covered for damage according to their policy: http://www.eveready.com/faqs/gold-batteries/Pages/faq.aspx
Eveready will repair or replace, at our option, any device damaged by Eveready® Gold® alkaline batteries. Guarantee void if batteries are charged by user or device. Contact 1-888-706-4100
US number though… anyone had any experience with that?
I've had a set of AAA NiMH cells leak
True, they can leak (but not melt down) if they are overheated and rupture the pressure seal on the battery. This is usually caused by overcharging, with a "dumb" charger. A good "smart" charger (dV/dT and/or temperature sensing) won't let that happen.
Usually all that happens is you get blue "fuzz" (dried potassium hydroxide) on the positive pip of the battery, and it can discolour the battery holder's positive terminal. Shouldn't cripple the equipment.
it's not something I'd be worried about.
Agreed.
True, they can leak (but not melt down) if they are overheated and rupture the pressure seal on the battery.
The cordless phone was left idle (unplugged, in a drawer) with the batteries inside for a long time, at least a year.
Shouldn't cripple the equipment.
The contacts had to be properly cleaned before it worked again. I wish I took some photos!
That deal on 23c batteries was from Eveready
Oops, missed that. Still, it appears that price was a pricing error, and such good prices are rather rare.
anyone had any experience with that?
My Dad tried once to claim. I don't recall if it was Eveready or Duracell, but he had a cheap 2xAA torch where the battery had melted, swelled, and wouldn't come out. He sent it in, they returned it with batteries removed, but not working, and a note saying "wasn't our batteries". Which is entirely possible, he could have been using some of the look-alike batteries.
Thanks, esp. for AAAs.
When will the Fast Charger be available a DSE you think?
Thanks, I will wait for DSE to make it the standard offering or at the very least have a special on it.
I have the dumb charger and only need to buy the Smart version once.
Great…now I have to buy more NiteCore ans Sunwayman torches.
And another 16 Eneloops on the way for me. I think this will hold me for a little while.
Woohoo… Now I have all the colours released (I hope). Glitter, Tropical, Rouge, Uomo and Whites.
EDIT: Ok my wife now tells me she gave the Rouge ones to her sister… :((((((( Any deals on them?
Ozbargain the only place you will find a debate about batteries
You should visit candlepowerforums…
Cheers OP. Ordered my first batch of Eneloops. 16 of each AA & AAA plus the standard charger & 4 more AAs. I read much on these batteries here. I had no idea what they were before lol. My current rechargeable battery keeps running out in wireless mouse so this should sort it out
Lol, why? They probably have exactly the same charge. Eneloops just hold their charge for longer when not in use.
Hope you're not disappointed with your purchase.
A mouse is a pretty low-drain device, so he should see at least a bit of improvement I think. With regular NiMH the higher self-discharge rate would effectively shorten the usable time.
e.g. After 6 months, a set of Eneloops would lose about 5% of their charge. A set of regular NiMH cells would lose maybe 30%. So the end result is, the eneloops in a mouse would last longer.
(just an example, don't quote me on the % figures!)
Just ordered some, hopefully they don't screw the order/delivery up like the last 2 eneloop deals i bought…
I already have 2 chargers, a Sony charger and Aldi brand charger.
They are both slow chargers.
Any benefit of the standard Eneloop charger over my existing chargers?
I have some existing Eneloop batteries, and the existing chargers seem to charge it ok, but I haven't tested the voltage/capacity etc.
Thanks you very much OP. Been waiting for best price on these for a good while.
Thanks OP. I have been waiting for the Eneloop 8x AAA batteries with Free Delivery Deal from DSE to return again.
Thanks. I've ordered AAA!
Are these any good?
Is the pope catholic?
Bought the 8 AAAs
thanks a lot OP
I have never owned these, and always see the sale pop up but never buy. Then yesterday I was complaining we never have batteries in the house and decided I will buy next sale. One sleep, and here it is!!
There are only so many Eneloop deals I could tell myself I didn't need….gave in, and ordered my first Eneloops!
What's a decent a charger for these? Seems a lot of people say the standard charger is no good?
I'm thinking of popping my eneloop cherry too.. but wondering what a good charger for them is too? Can anyone else point us in the right direction :)
When Only the best will do :D
I just plumped for the standard charger. I dont use batteries that often, only for remotes etc, so I wouldn't be in such a rush. I am happy to wait 10 hours for the batteries when I have another 8 that I can use (purchased the packs as well).
I dont really buy this scientific mumbo jumbo that people are talking about with the chargers. They wouldn't make a simple charger so complicated. I am sure I can plug the batteries in and charge them without the house burning down or the batteries melting simply because I plumped for the standard charger.
On a side note, I ordered from Dick Smith with Paypal. So far I have received 9 emails considering my order. That's a bit ridiculous.
AAAs = ordered. Thanks!
Weird. Only the AAAs have been shipped….
Also ordered AA tropical pack. Guess they're shipping separately.
My shipping notice told me both had been shipped but only the AAAs arrived. Gave them a call and the woman said the warehouse that the AAAs came from ran out of stock of the tropicals so she's moved the stock to a different warehouse and hopefully it will be shipped today :/
same here, signed for my delivery and then seen the tropicals missing. Website says entire order is delivered & complete so rang up and got the same answer
4 AAs and charger coming up as out of stock :(
Looks like they are sold out. Sadness, have updated deal.
Grrrr, wont accept password, wont send me a change pw email, locked out for now…
Strange. I can try it for you. What's your password?
:)
Just ask ebay;)
Just waiting this one for free delivery..
Thanks OP!!
Hi, would my Energizer Ni-MH battery charger (n2120) be suitable to charge eneloops?
You should be able to use any charger designed to charge Ni-MH AA batteries. So yes…
I just placed an order for both the AAs and AAAs, they're both showing 'in stock' at the moment, and the $15 charger with 4 x AA is also now showing as 'in stock'.
Once you click to add it to cart it shows no stock :(
Thanks OP ,
For those using the Eneloops in wireless mouse and keyboards i have found the Sanyo NC-MDU01 'travel' USB charger really useful and have left it a couple of Eneloops permanently plugged in to a usb port on standby for when the mouse/keyboard batteries suddenly die. After a couple of year now the constant trickle charge does not seem to affect the battery life.
First time buying these batteries- the hype better worth it OzBargain! Although they didn't seem to have any chargers….hopefully I'll remember to buy one and not throw them out after they die, which I'm sure is a hangable offense around these parts!
Charger and AA's out of stock:(
Hmm, I just tried and was able to add both the AAs and AAAs to my cart, the charger however is now shown as 'Temporarily out of stock'.
Same here. Only charger out of stock.
Interesting, I already ordered a couple.
Now it's after midnight, eneloops are still on special, and discount of 12% also applies! Had to order some more!!
Can you cancel the earlier order?
Yup and they are still in stock with free shipping. Shame I already bought some earlier and cannot cancel the order..
Got mine today…bought the charger from Masters on the weekend too…happy so far…now just hope they last a while!
Should last at least the equivalent $$ of AA's if not something is wrong. Mine are still going strong after 6 months of daily recharges, I use mine in a remote camera.
got mine a few days ago, fast shipping
who can ever forget what those 'fair maidens' can do for $76 ;)
Thx anyway OP..have been waiting for free delivery on AAA
edit: what the fudge? the AAA link is giving 404 Not Found, even when I go through the search and opening the link from there. Out of Stock?
2nd edit: dw..opening the link to the product doesn't work but adding to cart seems to still work.