Pretty straight forward: Dell offers 30% discount on this "High performance and the world’s thinnest border" 24 inch monitor. Now $286
I had 3 of the 27" variant before I got one that was fine out of the box. Each one having very noticeable screen burn. It's good their support after sales (at least in my experience) was brilliant.
Damn it I thought this was 2 monitors for that price for a second. Stupid picture getting my hopes up :P
EDIT: If only I had a spare $572 I was willing to throw at this.
Is this the AH-IPS or e-IPS?
AH-IPS
ahhh thanks.
How do you know? It doesn't say that.
The price is a bit too good for AH-IPS.
You could Google it and see for yourself…
Edit:
Those seem to be the key messages Dell are promoting with the U2414H, but behind that they have kept some of the high end features which have made the U-series so popular over the years. The screen is again IPS based, using a modern AH-IPS panel from LG.Display
LG you say. Well I dont feel so bad now, I just got a 27" LG AH-IPS monitor a couple of days ago… although these are 8ms, mine is 5. Still not as nice as the one its replacing at 2, but that one is only 21.5"….
You could Google it and see for yourself…
Before I asked this, I did look it up on Dell, but it has lead me to believe that this panel is not AH-IPS.
Dell have always had panel lotteries. You linked to a UK review site. Different regions can get different panels. Hell even same regions can get different panels.
Now explain to me this (from Dell AU),
Dell UltraSharp U2413 24” Monitor
http://www.dell.com/ed/business/p/dell-u2413/pd
Panel type, surface: AH In-plane switching, anti-glare with hard coat 3H
Price: $779
Dell UltraSharp U2414H 24” Monitor
http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=au&l…
Panel Type, Surface: In-plane switching, anti glare with hard coat 3H
Price: $409
Discounted price: $286
First notice under Panel Type.. the U2413 clearly says AH-IPS, while the U2414H only says IPS. For what reason should one assume that the U2414H is also AH-IPS? If it was, wouldn't it clearly say so, since it says so for the U2413?
Second, why the massive price difference? They are both 24" IPS screens. One is almost double the price of the other (more than double the current price). AH-IPS is an expensive form of IPS. I have not seen a screen using that panel for the price a U2414H goes for. I can only assume the $286 screen is a cheap e-IPS using 6 bit + AFRC.
Unless you want to claim that 1200p makes it cost twice as much as 1080p.
Dell have always had panel lotteries. You linked to a UK review site. Different regions can get different panels. Hell even same regions can get different panels.
Sure, there are a lot of variables with these panels. But I don't think the type is among them. Why would you think they just throw any old panel into the one model and call it a day? They have specific supply chains. They order the specific panels from LG (TFT Central even give the exact panel ID), and they have them put into specific models. I can't imagine these things would differ by country, when they're most likely being sourced from just a few manufacturing locations (probably in Asia). It's not like every country has it's own supply and manufacturing process. I think you're very much overestimating the variability in this.
Not to mention that if the variability in panels were as great as you claim (when even the type can't be guaranteed) then there'd be f-all benefit in reviewing them as there'd be no consistency whatsoever.
First notice under Panel Type.. the U2413 clearly says AH-IPS, while the U2414H only says IPS. For what reason should one assume that the U2414H is also AH-IPS? If it was, wouldn't it clearly say so, since it says so for the U2413?
So just because the tech specs are missing some letters, it's not AH-IPS? I think you're the one doing the assuming. The reviews of this monitor clearly state it's AH-IPS. There's some evidence. If these reviewers can run comprehensive tests on the panel quality and performance, I think they might be able to get the type right.
So we have the words of display experts for AH-IPS, and on your part we have a couple of missing letters and some guesswork against it. Believe what you want, but I know which argument I'll trust.
I can only assume the $286 screen is a cheap e-IPS using 6 bit + AFRC.
Unless you want to claim that 1200p makes it cost twice as much as 1080p.
These are not the only possible types of panels, and the resolution is not the only difference between the two.
I missed out on the previous deal but picked 2 up for $290 each (master bargainer) last week.
Although I like the screens and the bezels and everything else professional that the dell brand brings, I found that when you pivot into portrait it is not level/straight. This might be defective but its happening to both of them (one is worse than the other but both definitely noticeable).
I wonder if this falls under that 14 day satisfaction policy or just warranty.
Excellent service from dell. I just got off the phone and they are sending 2 replacements on Monday/Tuesday.
Do you get to keep the other 2 monitors or will they get picked up when the new ones get delivered?
My experience is that they will arrange pick up of the old monitor seperately
Correct. You dont pay for shipping or reorganise, they do it all for you.
Very nice. I'd love a 21.5-inch version with the same resolution.
I bought this monitor and i had to return it. Its a good monitor with nice colours and its thin bezel but definitely not for gaming! the blackness of this monitor is very poor and has back-light bleeding in the bottom (maybe its typical for IPS panel). Other than playing for gaming its a good choice.I'm just speaking from my experience
I use it for gaming daily. While I agree it's blacks aren't as good as my expensive 27", it isn't that bad. No bleeding on my units either.
I use it for gaming as well. I'm not a hardcore gamer, but casual gaming it's fine in my opinion.
Gonna need 3 of these :(
Pity it's 1920x1080, not 1920x1200. Good price, though.
I also checked that. Aspect Ratio is 16:9 and not 16:10
Couldn't hold myself. Had to buy one!
To each their own! I much, much, much prefer 16:9.
It depends on what you do, but if you watch a lot of media or play any games, 16:9 is a lot more favorable imo.
16:10 monitor can still run 16:9 resolutions. It just leaves bars at the top and bottom.
16:10 means you get the best of both worlds without compromise.
What's the other 'world' though?
I've never known what the 16:10 benefits are.
It's like all the planets finally align… then 'they' go and mess with things again!
gaming 16:9 with black bars is annoying though
I would classify the presence of black bars as a compromise.
Documents and web pages all tend to be vertically (portrait) oriented so I want all the vertical pixels I can get.
How many books or ereaders do you see in landscape format?
you can rotate the monitor vertically
What's the other 'world' though?
I've never known what the 16:10 benefits are.
How about seeing more stuff on the screen when you're not gaming or watching a movie (while still seeing everything a 16:9 screen would display when gaming or watching a movie)?
1200 rows of pixels vs 1080. If two screens, one 1080p and one 1200p had a browser or spreadsheet open, the one with 1200p would show more lines on the screen.
Is that not a benefit?
You'll find the wider your screen the less good it is for browsing the web. You want to see more vertical, less horizontal. Websites aren't designed for wide screens anyway.. you normally get borders (or ads) left and right.
Another thing you could do is play your movie/game in a window at 1080p, so you would actually see what's behind your movie (the top and bottom), so you can monitor other activities in the background, such as downloads or instant messaging. In full screen mode you wouldn't be able to do that, nor could you run a 1080p movie in a window and see anything behind it on a 16:9 screen.
gaming 16:9 with black bars is annoying though
You see just as much of the game as you would if your screen was 16:9. Pretend it's part of the bezel. Taking a chainsaw and slicing off the black borders doesn't get you any more real estate, not does it give you extra desk space.
Anyone used the AC511 sound bar and have feedback?
http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=au&l…
Thinking of using this as the bedroom monitor to watch Netflix and use PS3.
judging by the price, I doubt I will satisfy you.
i think you can satisfy him ;)
I won’t be the one listening to it. All I want is a better monitor with equal or less shit sound than the current Dick Smith one provides.
Doesn’t have to be great or good, just less shit.
Let's have a look at the shit scale:
Current
|-0—————-|——————|
Shit______Normal______Good
With AC511
|———0———|——————|
Shit______Normal______Good
Thanks, disappointed there was no banana for scale though.
If your shit scale is accurate, then it would satisfy as being less shit. I failed to find any reviews on this last time I Googled it.
Will try again tonight with this scale in mind.
Impressive amount of ascii work above :)
Well not doubt you would satisfy snuke ;)
The soundbar on the other hand is a matter of music preference.
Damn. Bought one of ebay for $300 a few weeks back after I missed the other special.
Such a beautiful monitor. The super slim bezel and aluminum-look stand goes well with the MacBook or any metal-look laptop.
Also just a side note - it comes with a Displayport to Mini Displayport (Thunderbolt) cable in the box.
No need to buy one.
Also just a side note - it comes with a Displayport to Mini Displayport (Thunderbolt) cable in the box.
No need to buy one.
dammit,
just bought 2x hdmi, 2x mini DP to mini DP, 2x displayport to displayport
Hehe, Yep I bought a Thunderbolt to HDMI and a HDMI cable in anticipation of this monitor. Oops!
I agree, these are fantastic monitors.
Same. Awesome monitors.
For a moment I was worried that Dell had abandoned 16:10 monitors, which I prefer because that aspect ratio is closer to that of photos, plus it is always better to have more height. Monitors aren't TVs; 16:9 is not optimal. It always amuses me that people think having black bars (cinematic aspect raio) at the bottom and top of the monitor for certain games makes it cooler, 'just like the movies'. The same with Depth of field (everything more than 3 metres away is blurred), lens flares, and film grain.
The proper 24 inch monitors are: U2413 http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=au&l…
U2412M http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=au&l…
Yes, you get what you pay for.
The 2413 is $779 and the 2412M is $469. Might as well get a 27" from Korea for that price.
can't believe they are branding 16:9 monitors under their 'U' series of IPS now.
knew a 16:10 wouldnt go for under $400, else I was going to replace my dual U2412 setup.
this will be good for PS4?
been waiting for ages since the last sale!
Bought the Ultrasharp in 2009 and it's still working fine. I want to change already but can't justify to. :(
I know exactly what you mean. Need vs Want.
BTW, have you thought of short circuiting the current monitor? That would justify to buy a new one!
how much would the 8ms affect gaming usage?
The 8ms rating doesn't mean a great deal in and of itself. Best to read a review to see how different panels actually perform.
FWIW, I don't see a problem with mine, but I rarely play fast moving FPS's, so take that with a grain of salt.
Thanks OP, bought 5. Literally.. for the office :)
thanks bought 1
Whats so good about the Dell UltraSharp? Resolution looks normal?
AOC 30" IPS LCD are about $300
Was / am really tempted to get one… though two things holding me back:
Must resist.. Argh…
Always a little bit curious, does it comes with dead pixel guarantee?
From past experience, no. You do have the 14 day satisfaction guarantee though generally, that will require you paying the return postage (Dell will organise a courier to pick it up, but you do need to pay). I had to return 2 UltraSharp monitors. One of them had a cluster of dead pixels - I think that one I was able to return it without paying return postage. The other one had 1 dead pixel, that one I had to pay return postage.
I like IPS monitors, but LG's quality control is shocking. So far, I've returned 2 Dell Ultrasharp monitors, 2 Apple iPads. I sold my Google Nexus 7 (1 dead pixel after 1 year) at a heavily discounted price. Still have a dodgy / cheapy Chinese brand tablet with a cluster of dead pixels - can't sell it because it has other issues as well.
Thinking of getting this for gaming.
Done some Googling and a read a few comments regarding the 8ms response time being an issue but it seems to get quite good feedback.
I know I'm reaffirming what I want to hear (that it's good for gaming) but can anyone give this 2 thumbs up (or down) for the price (this would be a big investment financially for me)?
I do know it's not 16:10 and has 8ms response time.
yes get it for gaming
In the same boat as you and looking to get this, also a reasonably heavy gamer. From what I have read, the '8ms response time' is only one of many factors which determine whether it is suitable for gaming, and apparently this panel is about as good as you can get from an IPS panel for gaming.
If I was big into FPS games I might lean more towards a 144hz monitor or something along those lines rather than an IPS, but I think this will be plenty good for most games I play plus obviously the innate benefits of an IPS panel.
Edit: Forgot to say I am almost sold and will probably pull the trigger over the weekend.
Does anyone know if it has DVI connector? My video card only has DVI output.
As per the connectivity section in the tech specs, no it doesn't. You can buy DisplayPort / HDMI to DVI cables, though.
Looks like only HDMI. So you're in the same boat as me and will need a DVI to HDMI converter (or cable). On the plus side should be no loss of quality.
Edit: and they cost next to nothing.
I got one of these monitors last time they were on special and it is great.
Although Dell has a hard on for touch sensitive buttons and they're a pain to use. I wish they were still tactile like my U2312HM :(
Curious to grab this and peel the AG coating off. Only gripe would be for fps.
Wonder if an eizo forris is worth the coin with 4k coming in in a few months.
Hmm… The great price is making this difficult.
How does this compare to the Mac LCD IPS monitors?
I also prefer 16:10 monitors. I have the U2410 which has been good. It looks like the U2413
is its successor? I'd love that to be 30% off. The U2414H is still great value for $286 and good to see it has USB 3.0 ports, reasonably up-to-date until they start making monitors with the USB 3.1 standard.
I caved and bought one.
Was doing some researching on the net and was hard pressed to find anything negative about this monitor. I don't even need a new one, but I'm getting one anyway! Dam you Ozbargain :P
Currently using another Dell 24" (non-IPS) so be interested to see the two side by side :)
Absence of a DVI slot seems a bit strange, but my GPU supports DP so I suppose that shouldn't be an issue.
Also been reading on how you can overclock it to 75-80hz, this intrigues me. May have to give it a go to see what improvement it yields (if any)
Anyone able to help setting this up with Macbook air using the included cable?
With the included Mini DisplayPort to DisplayPort cable, just plug the Mini end into the Thunderbolt port on your MBA, and the full sized end into the DisplayPort on the monitor. Select the right input in the onscreen menu, and it should be right to go.
All sorted. Cheers!
I had monitor on mini display.
Touch buttons on monitor are crappy, but overall works well so far.
Has anyone that didn't wait 5 days after original post to buck up and just buy the monitor received theirs yet?
My dilemma was I wanted a gaming monitor with 120 - 144Hz, but if I really think about it I game probably 10% of my time and internet browse, watch movies and photo edit the other 90%.
Was looking at a BenQ XL2411T or Asus VG248QE when this popped its head up…
The BenQ Would have been $399 plus postage from PCCG and I found the Asus on ebay for $390 inc delivery from the US.
Reviews say that the U2414H is still great for gaming, even with the 8ms GTG, I hope I've made the right choice as I am now awaiting the arrival of my new Dell U2414H.
Missed my delivery yesterday as no one was home… Then straight away organise redelivery but have to organise for 2 days later as it was past 6pm. so now i have to wait til tomorrow. Noobs Star Track :(
Noobs ordering, using address that isn't attended all of the time.
Not going to deliver it to my work when i'm taking the train home. The estimated delivery day was Wednesday when someone would have been home.. now gonna be Thursday.
Just placed an order for 3x displays and under 6months int free with Go Mastercard.
Thank you!
received mine !!!!!!
Estimated Delivery Date: 2/05/2014 pushed back a lot!
What date did you order yours?
Ordered on 11th April and received it on 16th April.
Ordered on the 16th and Received the 24th April.
Very happy with this purchase!
http://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-u2414h
This review talks about all the different colour settings.
Mine has one corner backlight bleeding on dark screens.. anyone else?
Good price, picked up one of these last sale and was very happy with it.
It did have a problem - A very audible coil whine, but Dell was quick to replace it.