I think these are good value for Ozbargain's favorite Battery Brand
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CamelCamelCamel.
cheers!
bundled a La Crosse Technology BC-700 Alpha Power Battery Charger with it as well since it was only a few extra $s postage
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RSOV50/
for those interested….
Items (2): AUD 77.93
Shipping & handling: AUD 12.91
Total before tax: AUD 90.84
Estimated tax to be collected: AUD 0.00
Order total: AUD 90.84
Why would you want the extra charger? Doesn't this pack come with one?
yeah - a basic charger that does the job but not in a great way
the La Crosse is a much better charger and a well regarded charger for use with eneloops
I think these are good value for Ozbargain's favorite Batteries
I think you're mistaking Eneloops with Kate Upton.
EDIT - I apologise - I thought it was boobies
Shaved cha chas, adult aids and now boobies… u hv a one track mind , shmahoo ;)
Looks like a fantastic deal. Been waiting weeks for batteries to go on sale
That's just the power pack. OP is the Super Power Pack, which as far as I can tell comes with 4 more AA's
Click on the link to the 16-pack AAs on that page.
Take note of price. Then click on the link to 8-pack AAs.
It's cheaper to buy 2x 8-packs than it is to buy one 16 pack.
Those who don't pay attention to price get 'taxed', despite being bulk purchasers who should be getting discounts.
Edit: Ah, but the postage is different between the two. The 16 pack has cheaper postage, but it still ends up costing more versus 2x 8-packs.
Delivered costs
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$51.89 16-pack Eneloop
$50.77 16 (2x 8-pack) Eneloop
Still cheaper but not by much.
Don't mind me, I'm just calculating :)
Of course it would make far more sense to buy more stuff in the one go, rather than just this; seems rather an expensive trip for just batteries or charger.
Not much difference in this case, but the thinking is good.
Just bought it, but how come its AUD 50.76 for me?
same here
$50.76 in AUD according to Amazon.
$50.96 in USD when you do the currency switcheroo to USD.
I must be the only Ozbargainer who has not purchased any Eneloops yet, should I take the plunge with this deal?
DOOO etttt! I've been waiting ages for a eneloop + charger deal.. took the leap :)
Deal is pretty average price according to camelcamelcamel.
If you have some other stuff to buy on Amazon and can make use of all the batteries here (and C and D spacers), it's a decent value so go for it. If not, there are probably cheaper or more advanced ways to start charging your batteries, since the included charger here is fine but doesn't offer as advanced charge control over individual batteries as some others.
You might find that you want to start your rechargeable journey cheaper by clicking on the 4 pack AA with charger link on that page, for just over $18.
But saying that, this is a great way to start getting into rechargeables, no doubt about it.
Either way you will need a cheap 50c to $1 adaptor for it to plug in our sockets in Australia.
If you can't make use of the C and D spacers, or the average charger included, or all of the 12xAA and 4xAAA batteries, there are probably better or cheaper options than the Power Pack for you. Either way, this is probably cheaper than what you can find in Australia.
Over-all, it's a decent way to get started and I'd recommend getting rechargeables rather than continually wasting resources (and money) on disposable poop batteries, which so many inexplicably still buy today.
Eneloops store charge well over extended periods (known as low self-discharge) unlike other Ni-MH batteries, so they basically replace the disposable battery very well. They have a low internal resistance which makes them ideal for use in high-current applications (flash units for instance), so they do far better than alkalines and I still haven't had one leak on me, unlike some alkalines I've had experience with.
If you don't have rechargeables yet, and you find you have some AA and AAA gadgets (or any gadgets that can make use of the C and D spacers here), you will start saving pretty fast if they get any sort of decent use, so it's in your interest to get some :)
You should definitely switch to Eneloop - or any low-self-discharge NiMH, really - but whether you plunge on this deal is up to you.
I don't have anything that uses C or D cells anymore, so the spacers aren't worth it to me. I'm an RC hobbyist so I already have much fancier chargers, so the charger isn't worth anything to me. If you knock off those extras, I'm looking at the package price but only getting the cells, so this deal isn't worth it to me. It might be worth it to you, though.
If you don't already have a charger this deal is probably fine. I would personally invest in a better charger, like a La Crosse or Maha C9000.
Can someone elaborate for me how this ENELOOP is so good? I actually haven't heard of these before but might take the plunge if reason is given.
Yes, I can, idonteven - a.k.a OUTOFTHELOOP.
Eneloops are rechargeable l.s.d. (low self-discharge) NiMH (NickelMetalHydride) batteries that despite a slightly lower terminal voltage than primary cells (alkalines etc.) perform perfectly fine in just about any device you might be inclined to put them in. In devices that draw a high current (like camera flashguns) they have a distinct advantage.
Along with benefits for the environment, if used in other devices that also eat regular batteries for breakfast - like many toys - they will pay for themselves within a reasonable timeframe and as long as they're not discharged to a damagingly low voltage or fried in an overly fast or overly 'dumb' charger, will last for many years.
Unlike old NiCad and conventional NiMH batteries l.s.d batteries like Eneloops come pre-charged and instead of losing as much as 30% of their charge per month just sitting around, are ready to use when you need them.
All the hype around Eneloops relates to the fact that Sanyo pioneered the low self-discharge technology, and even though there are now plenty of competitors in the marketplace still manage to make cells that hang onto their charge just a little bit better than most (and alot better than some). In addition, Sanyo always seem to make batteries with the least cell to cell variation, capacity-wise and otherwise. I just bought two Sanyo 18650 lithium cells to use in a small powerbank. Despite being from different batches, on arrival both tested at exactly 3.799 volts. Almost fainted.
Nice work on the explanation. Another helpful OzBargainer. Thanks.
Excellent summary. The only thing I feel inclined to add is that Eneloops also exhibit less voltage sag under load due to their lower internal resistance. So in certain types of high powered flashlights, for example, not only will they last longer, and deliver closer to their rated capacity, but the flashlight will remain brighter for longer.
Eneloops kick arse. One should even buy them out of respect, if for no other reason.
A worthy point about the internal resistance, and not just in Eneloops. The particular model of Sanyo lithiums I bought are renowned for having the most bouyant discharge curve relative to capacity of anything comparable. Agreed, respect indeed.
tl;dr: They are high quality rechargeable batteries. Main advantage (over normal rechargeables) is not running out of charge so fast after a many charges or not being used for months (LSD = Low Self Discharge).
Normal NiMH will discharge very quickly whether used or not. Within 3 months, almost completely discharged. Leave it in a discharged state for long enough and the battery will be damaged with reduced capacity.
Eneloop is an improved NiMH that takes years to self-discharge. Makes it much better for remote controls, flashlights, wireless keyboards, etc. Anything where its used infrequently or left on the shelf for long periods of time.
For most people, the Eneloop is better value for money in the long term. It costs a little more up front but will give you years of maintenance-free service. BTW: Eneloop is not the only low-self-discharge NiMH you can buy, but it's definitely the most well known.
Sorry to display my ignorance, but are the "xx" Eneloops worth the extra?
You're essentially trading longevity for capacity. I think the XXs are only worth it if an extra 450mAh or so makes a big difference to you. This would generally only be the case if you had a device that didn't run for as long as you wanted it to on standard Eneloops (such as a bike light not quite lasting the length of a full ride, for example).
Sometimes. Like some digital cameras need higher mAh batteries.
I use my eneloops in my dSLR grip as a back source to boost my main dSLR battery. I use 2700mAh AA batteries in my camera body and flash… the camera needs higher mAh, and while my flash works fine with Eneloops, the higher output = faster recycling time.
For everything else, I've found the standard 1900mAh eneloops to be great and probably not worth the extra $$$. If you need the extra output, consider other brands
the camera needs higher mAh, and while my flash works fine with Eneloops, the higher output = faster recycling time.
The mAh is a measure of capacity, similar to litres in a water tank. Has nothing to do with "output" which in context you're meaning electrical current.
The Eneloop has a higher output current than traditional NiMH, but reduced capacity. A traditional NiMH will give you more flashes per charge, but will take longer to charge each flash.
Bought one! Thanks OP! Have been waiting for such deal for a while (missed the DSE one previously).
ENELOOP is quite amazing, the AAx4 pack I bought 4 years ago are still great as new!
I'm not familiar with the "spacer" term. What does it mean exactly? Just that there are adapters so that, for example, you can put AA batteries into a C space?
Can you actually buy the C and D batteries in the Eneloop brand? I can't seem to find them. Cheers.
C and D size Eneloops are only available in Japan as far as I know.
The 'spacers' are empty C and D size cases which allow you to insert a AA battery inside. You can only fit one AA in a C size, but for D applications you are better off buying the likes of these: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-x-2-AA-to-D-Cell-Battery-Plasti… Electronics Batteries Chargers&hash=item27c7f6c950 **
The Eneloop D 'spacers' only (foolishly) utilize one AA, making them far less useful for D cell applications. I have the exact ones linked (from the same seller) and they're very well made. Just put nice even pressure across the base as you close the hatch so as not to stress the hinge too much.
For anyone looking to buy more than two there are a variety of better deals per case on Ebay for larger quantities purchased.
**Mods, is it fair to assume that spaces in web links create a racist divide between blue and black? Why can't they just get along??!!
excellent info on the 2xAA D spacers!
Sorry a bit off topic… but can someone recommend a place, either eBay or Amazon, to buy 18650 batteries for my UltraFire torch?
Fasttech.com.
Genuine cells. You won't find better prices. Buy Sanyo or Panasonic. There are other good brands, but the more you read the more it becomes a case of 'why bother with the others?'
Even with the price advantage involved don't risk buying any lithium brand with the 'fire suffix, especially Ultrafire. Even reputable sellers have difficulty keeping genuine stock of the least faked brand, Trustfire.
Especially if using in a torch it's silly forego the extra safety afforded by protected cells. Slightly longer than regular cells, but most torches are designed to accommodate them. Make sure you check as to whether your torch is best suited to nipple or flat-top batteries.
Again - unless you have a charger that specifies that a protection board will interfere with the charging process, BUY PROTECTED CELLS. Slightly higher internal resistance so you'll lose a few lumens - but just a few. It is very easy to damage lithiums by discharging to a critical voltage while still having a substantially bright torch. The extra protection on the charge side may just prevent your house from burning down.
Hope that all helps. Don't get me started on other topics relating to lithiums. It's a nightmare / minefield.
Thx lots buddy!
Bought using referral link.
Thanks!
I have bought this some time ago, you will need an adapter for the charger, but they are very cheap on ebay.