Emigrating to another country (big-mouth neighbour)

[Deactivated] on 17/02/2013 - 15:33

I have this big-mouth neighbour supposedly in trouble with the local bikie gang. He has a stack of cash and brags he could hide for a decade or more by hopping a plane and living in another country - indefinitely.

I asked for some examples of where he thinks can do this. But of it was a case of, "nudge-wink, say no more".

Anyway, you guys that travel - is that even possible? I mean, authorities in the other country would eventually deport him back to Australia right? Would there even be another country where he could swap a few hundred thousand AUD$ on arrival without being noticed, then just slowly drain that for 10 years!?

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  • mskeggs on 17/02/2013 - 15:38

    There are a large number of countries with nO deportation arrangement with Australia. Even quite developed 1st world nations. There are also some small nations that will give you citizenship if you are an economic migrant. One carribean island will go e you a passport if you invest $500k.
    Plenty will give you permanent residency visas for tha sort of money.
    Assuming he isn't wanted by the Aussie police, he would have lots of choices.

    • skyva on 19/02/2013 - 15:32
      +1

      Great, maybe we can start an ozbargain thread: cheap citizenships.

  • Aceboy884 on 17/02/2013 - 15:59
    +29

    Shit, now I've seen it all on Ozb

  • endotherm on 17/02/2013 - 16:55

    If he's running/hiding from crooks, then a lack of deportation and extradition treaties in those countries is no protection from a determined criminal element finding him! That only works if you are running from someone playing by the rules.

  • YadaYadaYada on 17/02/2013 - 18:25

    I thought you'd need to declare at customs if you had more than 10K of cash leaving the country. Assuming this neighbour isn't going to declare, if they do get caught at customs with large sums of cash, there'll definitely be questions.

    • [Deactivated] on 17/02/2013 - 21:02

      Even 1st world nations - really? As for countries with no deportation agreement with Aus… I obviously didn't look long enough. I figured Mexico might be one. Since most people want to LEAVE it for the USA. But nope - you have to have a profession in demand or something like that and still have to get permission to stay or out you go.

      I guess there must be ways around the money problem. e.g. I know you can open a USA bank account, but you have to actually do it FROM the USA. So I guess you could get a cheap flight, open the USA account, then send yourself the money using Paypal?

      All too complicated for me anyway. Looks like big mouth wins this round, LOL.

      • mskeggs on 17/02/2013 - 21:28
        +2

        For an example, you can open a citibank account here, deposit your million dollars, then withdraw it in another country no questions asked.
        If you have that kind of money, you can get a visa to live legally just about anywhere:
        - the USA ($500k) http://www.visausa.com/eb5visa.php
        - NZ ($1m NZD) http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/alreadyinnz/re…
        - UK (200,000UKP for an entrepeneur visa)
        Even we give a visa to foreigners coming here to live if they invest at least $800k in a local business.
        I think you are mixing up extradition, deportation and immigration. Extradition is when the police hand you over to the country where you committed a crime. Deportation is when the country expels you for not having a valid visa (they don't care where you go, and won't make you go 'home'). Immigration is the process of moving to another country to live legally (and usually requires a visa).
        Your neighbour won't have any trouble finding a place to live legally if he has plenty of cash. And he can even move it offshore legally if the police aren't after him.
        Whether he ends up getting an unwelcome visit from the bikies he ripped off is another question.

        • sparkles on 17/02/2013 - 23:08

          It might have changed but every cash transaction (or cash equivalent) over $10k (from memory) gets reported to govt agencies on a daily basis. Money laundering laws. Big brother is watching.

        • dealman on 18/02/2013 - 14:23

          That's true more than 10 K needs to be reported, and is tracked by the govt agencies but if the money is "white" you got nothing to worry about.

        • dealman on 18/02/2013 - 14:23
          +1

          Thanks,
          Good research, will book mark this when I've saved my 500 K on ozbargain.

          Enough of saving money, Any investment deals anyone…

  • m0nkeycheese on 17/02/2013 - 20:18
    +3

    Surreee it's a 'big mouth neighbour' wink wink say no more

    LOL

    • [Deactivated] on 17/02/2013 - 20:55

      Love to be able to come and go as I please. But don't have that kind of cash unfortunately. :-(

    • kolorijo on 18/02/2013 - 11:26
      +1

      all the cash that he saved from OZB :D

  • chloden on 17/02/2013 - 22:05
    +4

    I would be more worried about someone mistaking your house for his ;)

    • sparkles on 17/02/2013 - 23:14

      Exactly, my first instinct. I'd put my surname on my mailbox in reflective stickers if I knew my next door neighbour was a bikie gang target. You do not want a bullet flying through your front window.

  • wukachuka on 18/02/2013 - 02:44

    LOL , yeah sure, why would he tell anyone that bikies are after him…
    I mean, no one he tells is going to drop a dime on him are they?

  • sama on 18/02/2013 - 03:44
    +1

    It'd be nice along with answering your questions, if we could find your neighbour a bargain.

  • bondy28 on 18/02/2013 - 13:33
    +1

    Maybe on some quick set cement?

  • cannedhams on 18/02/2013 - 19:44

    The short answer is yes.

    I have a former client who has been residing in the Philippines for more than a decade. He has no visa and no entitlement to remain in the country, but as the Philippines is not a wealthy country, they generally wouldnt bother paying the money to deport him unless he caused a fuss.

    It is still possible to receive the aged pension from Centrelink whilst overseas, although if you stay more than six months you will generally receive a the pension at a lower rate. However, given that the living costs are so low, you are probably better off staying there anyway. So all things considered he is actually on a pretty good wicket.

  • ethereal88 on 19/02/2013 - 07:07

    You can easily disappear in Eastern Europe, and the overall living quality is better than some third rate asian dump - look at Romania, Bratislava, Serbia etc. You also won't stand out as much. Dirt cheap too.

    • BrutusB on 19/02/2013 - 07:25

      Bratislava?… You mean Slovakia.

  • Dr Techno on 19/02/2013 - 09:44

    Hopefully your neighbour isn't wasting too much of your time. Theres some people who like to talk just for the sake of talking. Ha! Can ask him to put his theory into practise, then you will have a new neighbour :)

  • vbguy2011 on 19/02/2013 - 11:20

    So long he's not wanted by police,
    your neighbour can just easily country hop if required. Easy example would be hopping between SG and Malaysia or other nearby asian countries when he's legit visa is about to expire in either country. Even if his passport eventually expires he should be able to request one from overseas, again so long that he's not wanted by police.

    not sure about the cash side.

    in any case you sound sus asking about those kind of things :/

    • Dr Techno on 19/02/2013 - 11:49

      In China I had 1.2 Million RMB :) but then I purchased a house here and Im poor now :P

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