PowerColor Radeon RX 9070 XT Reaper 16GB Graphics Card $1139 + Delivery ($0 MEL C&C) @ PC Case Gear

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Seems to be the only msrp model since PCCaseGear got their cards straight from powercolor, you can see the price now by googling the model at PCCaseGear

“ Stock levels are excellent - this is the best GPU launch availability we've ever seen for a GPU. We still have some shipments rolling in, so there may be further stock available the following days/weeks - we'll update this space if all our launch stock is sold out and we need to manage some timed releases, but we're hoping that will not be necessary.” - from https://www.pccasegear.com/rx9000

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  • +12

    Ok ok if they're all around that that's actually quite good.

    • looks like the bigger brands are around the 1400 mark

      • +24

        Eh, doesn't really matter tbh, they're all the same card really. PowerColor has been doing AMD for yonks.

      • +13

        Powercolor is a big brand for AMD cards.

  • Upper limit is $1449 at pc case gear.

  • +33

    Cheaper and significantly better than 5070 (which is a stinker). Matching 5070ti in a bunch of titles in a bunch of reviews.
    Powercolour a good brand too.

      • +23

        RX 9070 XT vs 5070 is not much of a decision, 5070 isn't even close. The 5070 is an absolute stinker for the price

          • +13

            @jasswolf:

            The second you flip on modern features

            You're suggesting multi-frame gen over real, raw frames? Are you kidding?

            • +3

              @CrispyChrispy: Try DLSS 4. Amd is not just competing nvidia's raw performance, they are also competing against DLSS. Frame gen is new but it will also get better and better just like how dlss now is much much better than dlss 1.

              Also I fully support AMD because nvidia is off the rails

            • -1

              @CrispyChrispy: No, I'm talking about DLSS upscaling and other neural rendering features. I'm talking about path tracing. This is the future, and AMD's software isn't there, and the RT performance falls away as it gets more complex.

              If we're lucky, they catch up for UDNA, but then they have another architectural and software jump to try and anticipate from NVIDIA.

              • +1

                @jasswolf: You realise only a (very minute) handful of games have path-tracing, right? Yes, the number of games using it will increase but it's not like the 5070 is going to be running Cyberpunk 2077 with RT overdrive smoothly either…

                And yes, the new DLSS Transformer model still looks better than FSR4, but the raw performance (and value) of the 9070 XT is just that much better that it isn't a competition.

                Productivity workloads remain a different story, however.

                • @CrispyChrispy:

                  You realise only a (very minute) handful of games have path-tracing, right?

                  And what will that be like in 3-4 years… how long do you think people own GPUs for?

                  Yes, the number of games using it will increase but it's not like the 5070 is going to be running Cyberpunk 2077 with RT overdrive smoothly either…

                  1440p DLSS Transformer on balanced should be about 50 FPS (Ray Reconstruction on). Look into neural radiance cache to see how that kind of output can be taken over the top over time. I'd probably drop a few settings to get it to 70 FPS before flipping on frame gen.

                  • @jasswolf:

                    And what will that be like in 3-4 years… how long do you think people own GPUs for?

                    And the measly 12GB VRAM will be a serious issue by then. We're already seeing it with Indiana Jones.

                • @CrispyChrispy:

                  Productivity workloads remain a different story, however.

                  And that’s why you get a Mac.
                  Radeon GPU for gaming, Mac for productivity, and MAYBE a used NVIDIA GPU for an AI server.
                  This is going to be the future until either NVIDIA drops their prices or AMD catches up to NVIDIA and Intel on GPU and encoded performance respectively.

          • +9

            @jasswolf: Until you run out of VRAM and the game starts stuttering (really bad 1% lows), or crashes,

            Yeah prefer smooth as game play of the 9070XT than worrying about that shit.

            Watch the 1% lows:
            https://youtu.be/UxvmfEZkvc8?t=508

            The VRAM stuttering (while extreme sand shows worst case, it means the card wont last more than 2-3yrs as new games get more intensive)
            https://youtu.be/qPGDVh_cQb0?t=233
            https://youtu.be/ntSylZ1Bp1Y?t=40

            • @Huntakillaz: I understand that there are edge cases at stock. You can boost the VRAM bandwidth up 14% with two clicks.

              VRAM usage is being brought down through a combination of incoming AI features, technologies that have been getting brought in since the RTX 20 series, and DLSS updates, not to mention you can tweak settings and drop the upscaler setting from Quality to Balanced @ 1440p.

              Existing games with these issues may not get many future updates, however.

              I would call the RTX 5070 the boon for 1440p gaming that the RTX 2060 was for 1080p gaming. Eventually things will move too far past its limitations, but it's a nice entry point for the resolution, and can pinch hit at the next rung (4K).

              • +2

                @jasswolf: Yeah nah, I'd rather spend more time playing rather that trying to tweak the game and card to be playable

                Feel free to play the settings and tweaking game, swapping dlls , if you want and enjoy spending your time that way
                Also Native > artifacted DLSS
                Also Brute forcing Native > waiting on hopium for updates to games and AI

                Most people just want to be able to plug and play without having to worry about all that especially when spending over $1k of their hard earned cash.

                • -1

                  @Huntakillaz:

                  Yeah nah, I'd rather spend more time playing rather that trying to tweak the game and card to be playable

                  That's modern graphics. You're also getting worse visual quality with raytracing on AMD cards under this paradigm. If you don't like that, go buy a console.

                  swapping dlls

                  Built into the NVIDIA app now.

                  Also Native > artifacted DLSS

                  If your options are TAA, FXAA or DLSS 4, it's not even close. Native is honestly a little behind DLSS Quality most of the time now… comes down to the individual game and conditions.

                  • @jasswolf: ew, NVIDIA app? The only reason I ever open AMD Software is to update drivers every so often.

                    Many of us have busy lives and just want to sit down and play a game in the spare bit of time we have, not sit there changing settings.

                    (And yes, I realise this used to be the case for AMD, oh how the turn tables.)

                    • @heef: We're talking about intercepting DLSS DLL calls and pushing that through an updated model. AMD will use the same mechanism.

                      Currently the setting also reverts to default when a new driver is installed, but that kind of makes sense while they get performance data about their implementation.

                      • @jasswolf: Still don't understand why you would pay more for a card that you have to tinker with DLLs when you could, y'know, not have to?

                        But thanks for explaining it in fairly simple terms.

                  • +1

                    @jasswolf: Yeah but the card still won't last past the next gen,

                    12GB for 1440p is DOA, its already having issues at launch, and you want to be adding in dlss and AI features to gimp whatever performance it does have even more,
                    AI features have a tax, they're not free
                    Did you not see the stuttery mess it is? go have a look

                    9070XT 1% lows are the Avg framerate of the 5070, so how is the 5070 better in these NVIDIA Championing titles?
                    https://youtu.be/gWIIA-a9Q9A?t=713
                    https://youtu.be/gWIIA-a9Q9A?t=605

                    Also People in mid range don't buy a card every gen, except ppl like you.

                    • @Huntakillaz: I genuinely don't think it's DoA, as a lot of the AI enhancements are built around driving down VRAM and other computation requirements. 8:1 jump in texture compression, for example (with small caveats).

                      Takes time to implement though, and AMD will have their own solution. A refresh with 15 GB of 34+ GBps VRAM on 160-bit bus would be a killer card, likewise a 12GB RTX 5060 Super.

      • +3

        FSR4 is looking to get better than DLSS3 CNN. But definitely worse than DLSS4 Transformer.

        It sits somewhere between the two DLSSs.

        • -5

          It sits slightly above DLSS 3 CNN. It runs hybrid of the two models, so there's still a lot of smear despite some fast motion wins. It's a good solution, but it is behind.

          • +4

            @jasswolf: Definitely behind. DLSS 4 is so much sharper and better at details.

            But for the price, the 9070XT is worth the compromise.

              • +8

                @jasswolf: What tests are you looking at? 9070XT kicks 5070 ass in almost everything but a few RT outliers.

        • AMD should invest some of that cpu money to their AI department for GPU

      • -5

        Don't even try talking sense

        The AMD Defence Force on OzBargain confirms everything @Jimmy77 said years ago

        Delusional gamers buying overpriced RDNA 4 cards because RTX 50 series is even more overpriced

      • The 5070 is a steaming turd. No cherry picking results can change that, Nvidia screwed the pooch on it.

  • +2

    Good price for an in stock 5070ti competitor

  • whats the msrp for the 9070? looking at something thats still good for under 800ish~

    • +4

      My guess is that the 9070 will go for $1000

      These cards are overpriced for the 7700XT and 7800XT replacements its crazy overpriced.
      AMD said they wanted to compete in the mid range.

      When did mid range become $1000 - 1200 ?

      Will the RX9060XT come out at $600-$750 now?

      • +11

        When did mid range become $1000 - 1200 ?

        In 2024/2025, unfortunately.

      • +1

        Since the "affordable" home consoles (PS5/PS5 Pro) are priced at 700-1200 AUD, that is the "mainstream gaming" price point.

      • +1

        When did mid range become $1000 - 1200 ?

        I mean, it did.

    • +6

      Would expect just over $1000, the 9070 makes about as much sense as the 5070, both are DOA.

    • +2

      Google says $1049 for the PowerColor Radeon RX 9070 Reaper 16GB.

      • I'm getting $1139 right now

        Maybe they snuck in a little bump when realised what other AIB's were going for

        • $1139 is the XT. GPU naming is poop.

          • @Hiphopopotamus: My bad, it's late at night.

            Those 9070's would be worth it if they were $999 or lower. They're about 15% slower, so should be 15% cheaper in my eyes

            Temperature, power consumption, noise would be fantastic for a SFF build

    • A secondhand 3080

  • +1

    i will sell my XSX and my 4060 and will get this one. And i'm set for 5 years

  • -6

    MSRP is not supposed to be 950$ aud?

    • +12

      That is USA price before tax. So about an extra $80 on top. Sadly that is pretty good for aus pricing.

    • +5

      No?

  • +9

    $1139 is still a little bit more than currency conversion plus GST.

    They just couldn't not have some Australia Tax. Makes it less great value than I'd hoped.

    Still, not like NVIDIA has anything this powerful in stock in this price range. Cheapest 5070 ti is $1700 AUD right now: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=589&sort=…

    Cheapest 5070 is "only" $1165, but it's at least 15% slower in games. Usually more: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=590&sort=…

    So if the rumours of decent stock are true, and we can actually buy one, I guess it's a "bargain" compared to the terrible 5000 series and everything else around.

    Hopefully it actually gets a bit cheaper after launch, and hopefully it's a sign that the rest of AMD's 9000 series line up has good price/performance too.

    • ”the Reaper will be the AU RRP model which is higher than we were hoping, but still great value. There is a significant jump up for the next models up but overall the Reaper and Hellhound remain the best value picks and are our highest stock offerings.

      Locally distributed brands such as ASUS, Gigabyte, Sapphire, will be higher again.”
      msrp bros better hop on this one lol

    • Even at Australia MSRP of $1509 this is still better value. It's like 25% off

    • Yeah that's not how conversion works unfortunately..

      It's logistics too, supply and demand.

      Australias populace is tiny compared to most countries, especially for the size. Demand isn't high so orders are in hundreds, rather than many thousands. Our minimum wage is also significantly higher than the US.

      All plays a factor.. So I honestly just tend to assume double pricing for anything usd vs aud in the tech world.

      In this case, that's fairly close to accurate!

      • +2

        And warranty. They don’t have economy of scale compared to overseas.

      • No that's exactly how it works

        PCCG did a straight USD + 10% GST conversion to AUD for the Arc B580 LE launch plus free delivery

        MSRP 9070 XT's are max $1050 AUD so this is just PCCG pocketing an extra $100 with a desperate gamer tax + no free delivery

        • I've only been into PC gaming for like 10 or so years.
          But USD to AUD + 10% tax + 10ish% random cost has been a fantastic guide to the price for all PC parts that entire time. This holds true here.
          Always see someone surprised on every single new release like you even though its exactly the same as it has always been. If you commented on a deal of the Arc B580 with your surprise of no random 10% that would have made a lot more sense.

  • +1

    Slightly better than my 7900 XT in all aspect I think.

  • Where does the price come from?

    • +1

      If you google powercolor 9070 xt reaper pc case gear the price comes up, the price has already been registered by pc case gear to google search, happened with 50 series too

  • Do we have good benchmarks for this yet? Is it better than a 4070ti super?

      • +5

        Are you comparing with an overclocked 9070XT though?

        • -2

          Yes, where performance is about 7% higher than stock. The 5070 is the better performer for RT unless you're hitting VRAM issues at 4K.

          100 W more power for the 9070 XT, and it won't age well with modern graphics. It's a harder sell than people seem to realise.

          • +3

            @jasswolf: So you cherry pick a few cases to prove 5070 is better even though in general it is worse?

            • @goodwillN1: A few cases??? Every architecture has games where it scores a win, but no.

              https://videocardz.com/198465/amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-rdna4-gr…

              Pick a review, I'll examine this with you now.

              • @jasswolf: I appreciate you bring data into this. I am not trying to shut you down by default. One of thr more extensive ones for RT was Gamer's Nexus. Can you pick the ones for me where the 5070 leads in more than just 2 or 3 RT outliers?

                • -2

                  @goodwillN1: I'm more concerned with heavy RT and path tracing loads, as I see that as where we're rapidly heading. Yes it can come across like the new Hairworks, but it's a stark difference visually compared to where RDNA 4 excels.

                  Then you can turn on a better denoiser, and a better upscaler. At 1440p it's also arguably worth comparing the 5070 with DLSS 4 Balanced or Performance against the 9070 XT with FSR 4 Quality.

                  I know it feels like I'm doing backflips to score points, but when the difference is some settings toggles that people will learn after a few hours, the current content cycle around this battle seems a bit wild. It may even rapidly evolve to the NVIDIA app's recommendations being very well tuned, and you just hit one button.

                  But yeah when it's native vs native, especially if you have 4K use cases in modern AAA titles and limited or no RT, the 9070 XT has its advantages. It's a closer battle than normal, and it's going to quickly deliver better prices for all of us.

                  • +2

                    @jasswolf: It is not really a close battle in raster. 5070 is quite a bit behind. I do agree 5070 is more consistent in RT but I think the tests have proven 5070 simply does not have the oomph for RT (huge gap vs 5070 Ti) plus it is missing the VRAM for real heavy RT use. So betting on heavy RT with 5070 is shooting yourself in the foot.
                    I don't think we are heading towards heavy RT as most cards can't handle it. Including NVidia's. We are heading towards mandatory RT though, as it is the lazy choice for Devs. But they have to limit it's application. So no prevalent path tracing anytime soon.

                    As forvtge DLSS vs FSR claims. I was happy with DLSS 3 quality so if FSR4 is between DLSS 3 and 4 then it is kinda OK. I am a hevy NO for MFG though. But those are personal vhoices, just like all this fake pixel stuff. Neither of them is perfect so it is up to you how much noise you can tolerate. If DLSS3/FSR4 is not enough for you quality wise then fair enough, can't argue with that. Is it worth the premium and loss in FPS over the raw power of 9070XT though?

                    • @goodwillN1:

                      It is not really a close battle in raster. 5070 is quite a bit behind.

                      Keep in mind we're all estimating in terms of things like Firestrike benchmarks, so the real world differences in a game might be different SKU to SKU, architecture to architecture. Definitely want to see more data on this. Frustratingly NVIDIA seems to have capped memory overclocks to peak at 34 Gbps for the xx70 cards.

                      plus it is missing the VRAM for real heavy RT use

                      At 1440p? Only edge cases, and all of the RTX kit additions are built around driving that down, often quite dramatically. DLSS 4 also drops its VRAM requirements, as does picking Balanced or Performance instead of Quality.

                      I don't think we are heading towards heavy RT as most cards can't handle it. Including NVidia's. We are heading towards mandatory RT though, as it is the lazy choice for Devs. But they have to limit it's application. So no prevalent path tracing anytime soon.

                      Path tracing is a pretty easy workload for the devs to add in the scheme of things, and in fact helps them bake/optimise other lighting techniques better.

                      UE5 alone is reason enough to consider it these days.

                      I am a hevy NO for MFG though.

                      I like it for cinematic applications: you get to 70-80 FPS, and now you're 240 FPS when you don't need the reduced input latency. Over time though, it will be replaced with frame extrapolation techniques as hardware climbs in performance, but that's the realm of Reflex 2 for now.

                      • @jasswolf:

                        Keep in mind we're all estimating in terms of things like Firestrike benchmarks, so the real world differences in a game might be different SKU to SKU, architecture to architecture. Definitely want to see more data on this. Frustratingly NVIDIA seems to have capped memory overclocks to peak at 34 Gbps for the xx70 cards.

                        I disagree here. As you yourself have pointed out, there are plenty of real game reviews of various models. The spread is not small but they all conclude the same thing towards 5070. I don't think there is a model of 5070 that goes significantly better than the FE.

                        At 1440p? Only edge cases, and all of the RTX kit additions are built around driving that down, often quite dramatically. DLSS 4 also drops its VRAM requirements, as does picking Balanced or Performance instead of Quality.

                        Fair enough, the RAM is indeed less limiting there and it might still be usable. Where is the data for DLSS4 lowering RAM need at same setup over let's say DLSS3 (might have missed it)

                        Path tracing is a pretty easy workload for the devs to add in the scheme of things, and in fact helps them bake/optimise other lighting techniques better.
                        UE5 alone is reason enough to consider it these days.

                        Yes, easier to implement. I can see how devs choose the easy way out but the gaming community is getting a little sick of the lack of optimizations. This can go either way. But I stand by my point that these card (all of them below 4090) do not have enough oomph for a heavy application of this level of RT.

                        I like it for cinematic applications: you get to 70-80 FPS, and now you're 240 FPS when you don't need the reduced input latency. Over time though, it will be replaced with frame extrapolation techniques as hardware climbs in performance, but that's the realm of Reflex 2 for now.

                        Yeah, but with 5070 you will not reach those number in a lot of cases. So while it has some merrit in high FPS scenarions, this is not the type of card to achieve them. Sure, there will be less demanding games but this goes directly against what you pointed out above when it comes to RT.

                        • @goodwillN1:

                          I disagree here. As you yourself have pointed out, there are plenty of real game reviews of various models. The spread is not small but they all conclude the same thing towards 5070. I don't think there is a model of 5070 that goes significantly better than the FE.

                          I meant properly dialled OC vs OC, stock vs stock is of course well documented.

                          Fair enough, the RAM is indeed less limiting there and it might still be usable. Where is the data for DLSS4 lowering RAM need at same setup over let's say DLSS3 (might have missed it)

                          In the launch marketing and in further testing. RTX Kit also helps with this going forward.

                          Yes, easier to implement. I can see how devs choose the easy way out but the gaming community is getting a little sick of the lack of optimizations. This can go either way. But I stand by my point that these card (all of them below 4090) do not have enough oomph for a heavy application of this level of RT.

                          Lack of optimisation is a stretch, and there's currently a lot of news site clicks and grifting being done about 'smeary' graphics, but you're seeing the consequences of trying to drive lighting and particle fidelity instead of cheap hacks. AI will fill in the gaps, and DLSS 4 is the first step there.

                          Yeah, but with 5070 you will not reach those number in a lot of cases. So while it has some merrit in high FPS scenarions, this is not the type of card to achieve them. Sure, there will be less demanding games but this goes directly against what you pointed out above when it comes to RT.

                          If they can do it in Cyberpunk today, in Indiana Jones soon, in UE5, then they're golden. Neural Radiance Cache will help round it out, and the other related RTX Kit features provide either speedups or unlock new fidelity levels.

          • @jasswolf: How much are Nvidia paying you?

    • https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-9070-x…

      Not the exact same brand but will be very close

    • -1

      Hardware Unboxed raster summary: https://youtu.be/gWIIA-a9Q9A?si=-mo9nobF17VnkbZ6&t=476
      Skip to 12:05 for RT games.

  • +18

    the prices are already displayed on google - here are the XTs
    PowerColor Radeon RX 9070 XT Reaper 16GB $1,139.00
    PowerColor Radeon RX 9070 Red Devil OC 16GB $1,159.00
    PowerColor Radeon RX 9070 XT Hellhound OC $1,239.00
    PowerColor Radeon RX 9070 XT Red Devil OC 16GB $1,299.00
    PowerColor Radeon RX 9070 XT Red Devil Limited Edition OC 16GB $1,359.00

    Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT Pulse Gaming 16GB $1,299.00
    Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT Pure Gaming OC 16GB $1,339.00
    Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT Nitro+ Gaming OC 16GB $1,449.00

    ASUS Radeon RX 9070 XT Prime OC 16GB $1,399.00
    ASUS Radeon RX 9070 XT TUF OC 16GB $1,449.00
    ASUS Radeon RX 9070 XT TUF Gaming OC 16GB $1,449.00

    Gigabyte Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming OC 16GB $1,449.00

    • -2

      I love it how when every time someone comes out early with entry level prices, it's always entry level ASUS prices.

      Whoever is supplying those cards in Australia needs to be stripped of the rights. Gigabyte now too, sadly.

      • When you have amd competing with Nvidia but the same supplier is scalping both xd

        • I think 8% for AMD is pretty much the difference in cost of living and everyone here arguing hard to get that locked in. I want to know why there's another 7% on NVIDIA cards…

  • +5

    WTF? PCCG usually offers free shipping for GPUs!

  • Some great reviews coming out in the past 24 hours. My current PC is just about to hit 5 years… time to start planning out my next PC build.

  • Perfect fit for my Gost S1. Decent price and a massive upgrade from my 2080.. Very tempting!

    • +5

      Decent price??

      This is a mid range graphics card.. it wasn't long ago that mid range was $500

    • Yeah, the Reaper seems to be the only one that can fit in my ITX 😆

      Will wait for prices to drop in a few months and for the teething issues to be sorted out first before buying

      • +1

        What’s the catch with the Reaper. Only 2 x 8 pin. Proper 2 slot too.

        Obviously must not OC as much, and probably a bit hotter with the smaller cooler?

        • No fancy RGB, not factory OC'd

          It is a 2.5 slot card which is nice to see. There are a few other 9070 XTs which are also 2x8 pin, though majority are 3x8 with the exception of the Asrock Taichi being a 12V 2x6pin. And yeah the cooling on it probably won't be the best out there.

  • Still to expensive for this much performance, I got my 7800XT for around $700 10 months ago.
    I guess this is the least worse option lol.

    • Still to expensive for this much performance,

      What else would you recommend then?

      • +2

        A box of Zyrtec and go play outside?

      • 7800XT 16GB is selling for around $700 today we are talking about almost $500 cheaper

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