Ajinomoto Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) is a flavor enhancer which has been used effectively for over a century to bring out the best flavor of food
Ajinomoto Monosodium Glutamate 250g, $2.79 (2 minimum).
Maharajah's Choice Monosodium Glutamate Powder 1kg, $8.61, on backorder.
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Haiya, nephew Dreamer beats me to it.
this stuff rocks
I grew up in a world of “msg is the devil” “ha! Lucky we nearly bought that and it’s all msg” “msg is so bad for you because it’s addictive”
So I’ve always seen this stuff as aspartame or something.
Anyone got a short explanation to re-write my history 😂
Studies have shown that MSG by itself causes does not cause negative health effect. See this report by ABC: https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2024-10-10/msg-monosodiu…
If you look into the history of Asian cooking in Western societies (especially Chinese) by early migrants, they don't have access to all the sauces and spices that they cooked with back at home. The best they could to is to MSG to bring out the flavour, and A LOT of salt add to the taste.
When people reported symptoms of "bad MSG", things like headache, dizziness, dry mouth, weird hearth rhythms, those are more likely from acute salt intake. If you have an underlying condition that's sensitive to sodium (e.g. high blood pressure), then you'll be more affected.
Knock yourself out, all the same comments every time this is posted:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/search/node/msg%20type%3Aozbdea…
think of cheap chinese cooking, good restaurants don't use it and use more pure ingredients
(instant noodles and junk food contains it is a giveaway to what it is).
you only need 1/8th of a teaspoon don't pour from packet like Uncle Rodger!
The first site cites no sources, and the second reads like a conspiracy theorists blog. And truthfully, amongst the overwhelming research that says otherwise, you would have to be a conspiracy theorist to think that it is toxic.
Don't eat it if you don't want to, but stop fear mongering if you don't have better information.
https://jn.nutrition.org/article/S0022-3166%2822%2914037-X/f…
Yes people need to link medical sites and studies if they are going to bother, be it for or against.
@G-rig: Actually "people need to" take responsibility for researching and making conclusions themselves, not expect others to be personal educators and champions to strangers in a comments section, to change their minds to help them live a better life. Hence why I stated "to get you started" on that journey. I spent many hours studying the subject of MSG, there is no way I can write a comment that itself alone contains enough information to change someone's belief. Especially when they rarely read the the complete info already provided which was just proved again by the response "there are no sources" because there ARE if you read it all. I read everything especially the comments because they often contain links provided by others with info to share. Two articles as given above contain PLENTY of references to search on yourself but you're not interested.
@skysurfer: Yes DYOR. Some people don't care anyway (and driving up my private health / burdening the public health system).
Nutritionfacts.org is a good resource, summarising all things food and health related, linking actually trials and studies. Not everyone wants to know though.
Either way better to link actual evidence based and scientific articles, not opinion pieces.
Ps I don't think there are many studies saying it's good or bad, but plenty about excess sodium intake - raises blood pressure, increase risk cardiovascular disease, gastric cancer, obesity, kidney disease etc etc).
Nutritionfacts.org is a good resource
It is, but Michael Greger, its owner, has an agenda, a vegan one. So ofc it'll demonise sodium, as it is part and parcel of the vegan agenda (pretty hard eating meat without salt).
@wisdomtooth: Well it's good you know about it and him. I wouldn't say that, he recommends to aim for a maximum of 2300mg sodium per day. That's in line with most recommendations (actually the Aust Gov recommends 2000mg, but obviously the less the better like 1600mg. As long as people are aware, and yes it should be made known..
You raise a good point meat (animal fat) should be required to list sodium, saturated fats and cholesterol and other nasties but it would be too hard to quantify uniformly (I guess). People just have as much as they want and think it all goes to muscle lol.
That's in line with most recommendations (actually the Aust Gov recommends 2000mg, but obviously the less the better like 1600mg
You've been duped.
sodium, saturated fats and cholesterol and other nasties
You're 10-20 years out of date.
@wisdomtooth: lol always got an answer.
Easier to just say you like the taste and don't care about the negative health effects. It's natural for people to resist change and it's easy being told good things about your bad habits - it's those big industries that have brain washed you and the general population over 70 years.
@skysurfer: Naturopaths practice something that, despite ample efforts, has no empirical evidence to support it. the sites you provided are very poor and peddle emotional woo-woo. I agree that people should ideally search for their own information - but they should start by looking at pubmed, established peer-reviewed medical journals and qualified individuals, not naturopaths and blogs by crunchy conspiracy theorists.
Naturopaths practice something that, despite ample efforts, has no empirical evidence to support it.
I agree that people should ideally search for their own information - but they should start by looking at pubmed
Did you? ☝🏻
Naturopaths and consiporacy sites, and not a single empirically sound source. Sorry friend.. your epistemology is not sound.
If you have a heart condition or hypertension and a doctor has advised to lower sodium or salt intake then treat MSG as you would salt - its another source of sodium. If you don't have such a condition remember glutamates of all kinds are in vegemite, tomatoes, anchovies, parmesan cheese and konbu (from which MSG was originally isolated by Japanese scientists). There is zero good evidence that it has any significant negative health effects (other than adding to your sodium intake - which for some individuals suffering from hypertension might not be good).
I caused some real sh*t and I didn’t even mean to, I wish I was creative enough to cause a stir like this on purpose one day. Thanks for all the info, I guess I might dabble occasionally, not about to go Tony Montana on it though
Nope thanks. Nowadays it's in almost every stock, e.g. vegeta, cause it's cheap and nasty.
This brand? Or all MSG?
e.g. vegeta
Goku, Gohan?
No because msg is formed when you create boullion or stock. In fact any time salt is combined with proteins you get msg formation as its literally sodium+glutamic acid. Read the packets carefully and you'll see no one says stuff is msg free. Best you can promise is no added msg
My favourite pre-wok out
Bought it last time and haven't used it.
same lol. still using the one i got like several years back
classic ozbargainer
True story,
About 30 years ago in High School I had two Aussie friends who would asked me if I could bring something interesting or weird(Asian herb/spices) that they had never had before.
Without hesitation I took a teaspoon of MSG and other spices to school one day and gave it to them. They pinch a finger full and put it in their mouth thinking it probably would taste like sugar/salt.
I still remembered their faces until this day. (Sorry Jonathan/Luke) 😆
Chinese vegemite
Vegemite is just salt but MSG is something else. Its ok when added to soup and stir-fry but it's very unpleasant when you taste it by itself.
It won't ship to my address , 2590 NSW. Anyone know why???
There's a ban on msg in your suburb unless your Chinese.
*you're
I will say it first so no one else attempts it. 'Fuiyohhhhh'.