price-match @ JB Hi-Fi - $10 Perks = $19
- 700J protection
- 3yr warranty - $30k connected equipment cover
- 1m cord
- widely-spaced sockets
Monster 4-Socket Surge Protected Power Board $29 via Price Check/Beat Button + Delivery ($0 Click & Collect) @ The Good Guys
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surge protection? warranty? connected equipment cover?
700 Joules (this one) compared to 190 Joules (24 socket), you right no-brainer
700 Joules… isn't that like 1/10,000 of a person's daily diet? Doen't sound like very much energy - it's basically what a person's body burns in about 10 seconds.
Here just get this from bunnings https://www.bunnings.com.au/arlec-premium-surge-adaptor-1-ouâŚ
Plug in any powerboard you want
1800 joules 6,000A surge capacity. Beating both
@tonester: That's for you guys to find out. You can try to claim via Arlec or bunnings as the product does claim protection after all?
I'm just suggesting this is the better solution in theory provides better protection and bang for your buck.
Does not cover warranty claims only technical specifications
I donât know anyone who has ever successfully claimed on that âequipment warrantyâ everyone markets. If you really want proper surge protection you need to spend a lot more than $29 on it.
If you really want surge protection you will need one of these. It covers the whole house. Iâve had this for years now. Donât waste your money on these cheap rubbish âSurge Boardsâ.
https://www.clipsal.com/products/circuit-protection/surge-prâŚ
Most sparkies will do them installed for around $350 ish. They are the only surge protection worth itâs weight.
they don't even list a price for 3P… guessing it will cost a LOT more than the 350 you paid.
@jkim: I have a 20ka/65ka protector coming in from the street (lighting strikes) and a finer 2ka/8ka on the air-con circuit to protect A/Câs. Total cost $350 but installed for free by family member
They great my sparky brother installed them for me but they only protect at the switch board from the road (i.e. lighting strike), if a device shorts and surges in the house then other devices on that power circuit can blow too so you still need a protector at each high valued device in the home that has a high joules rating.
@J B S: 20ka is still 1p. Is the 65ka 3P?
In the link above, they only list a single 3P model - 40ka, without a price tag on it.I have 3P coming into the house with 13kw solar (2 x 6.5kw systems).
@jkim: Iâm only on single phase.
Bare in mind too they also self-sacrifice during a surge event and you should have a backup cassette to install in the switchboard otherwise your left with no power to the house after a surge
Mine are hager brand too not Clipsal.
@J B S: How best to get an indicative cost for 3P supply+install so I don't get ripped by the sparky if I do engage one? You guys said $350 is good price for 1P.
@jkim: Iâd ring wholesalerâs like ideal electrical or hager and just tell the guys there what your trying to do and theyâll look it up and tell you the trade prices. Then get a sparky on high pages for a few quotes, you then know the cost of the protectors and installation shouldnât take more than an hour
@J B S: Any good surge device will self destruct on use. Thats how they work. These things are way more effective than a few little MOVs in those plug in surge guards.
@pauliau: Yeah your right in a lightning strike they really good but itâs only stopping the surge from the street into your house, what happens when a device surges in your house other devices inside the house will be affected thatâs why you also need to protect tvâs and fridges too at the power point
@J B S: Actually these things wonât save you in a lightning strike. Nothing is going to stop millions of Volts if your house is unlucky enough to be hit. Only way to stop that is to physically unplug everything first. Even then your house and itâs cabling will likely be stuffed. I have worked on many houses who have been unfortunate to take a direct strike. These devices will save you from a mains voltage surge though, which is the most common form. (downed HV power lines shorting across your line, transformer explosion, etc.)
I canât see how a normal appliance inside your home can cause any type of surge though. They are running on 240v (230 officially) and they canât produce any more than that. If you have 3 phase power and something shorts it between phases then maybe yes, but again the RCBO will trip immediately anyway.@pauliau: Technically any of the following can cause surges according to Energex:
- Bad or faulty wiring
- High-powered or large appliances when they are switched on, such as air conditioners or refrigerators
- Tree limbs touching power lines, or other damage to power lines
- Restoration of power following a blackout
- Lightning strikes
- Faulty appliances
- Electrical overload on a single circuit using excessive power
Switching on a heavily power-reliant device may cause a small surge to occur â leading to temporary loss of power or damage to other electrical appliances. Small surges may be more common than you think, as they donât always leave outward signs. However, they can degrade and wear down your electrical appliances over time.
An RCD does not provide protection against overcurrent and you can also still receive a shock but the risk is reduced
@J B S: What youâre describing is actually a short term voltage dip or brownout caused when a high current device pulls the voltage down momentarily. Itâs not a surge. Please understand that none of these surge protectors will do any sort of voltage smoothing or filtering to prevent this from happening or saving your other connected devices from these voltage drops. (Unless there is other more fancy circuitry included) And yes, long term voltage drops can damage appliances as much as surges can.
Also, I mentioned an RCBO, not an RCD. RCBOâs have replaced RCDs and should now be retro fitted to all residential homes whenever any electrical work is performed. And they are designed to save your life.
@pauliau: yep in urban areas the chances of a lightning strike on your powerlines are almost non existent.
I remember seeing fax machines in the countryside, people would bring in an insurance repair…..black melted plastic. one bloke told me he had to dig his out of the opposite wall. Then there were the ones with surge protectors…..black melted plastic.
@M00Cow: We do see a lot of house lightning strikes in QLD during summer months, there was a good one in November:
(https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7t79bM9Eb7c)
Probably not as common in the southern states
Had one installed for $425 in Perth last year (40 kA rated clipsal)
what about anti-virus protection?
700j isnât enough to protect against a surge. Youâd need something with 3K - 4K+ to protect more sensitive equipment..
Now I might be in the minority here but what could you need 12 sockets attached to a 90cm lead with basically no surge protection for lol
Only use I can think of is charging all my camera and related batteries during a shoot. But at home you're just asking for trouble lol
Agree. 24 sockets is ridiculous. Why wouldnât it overload and cause a fire
rookie numbers. daisy chain
Now I might be in the minority here but what could you need 12 sockets attached to a 90cm lead with basically no surge protection for lol
Powerbar based surge protection is a marketing gimmick.
I've filled up 8 port boards easily with tech gear, never even looked for surge protection (though they did have slow trip fuses), just looked for a quality brand.
Yes of course, the supreme quality brand that Arlec is known for đ the thing is if you have 24 devices you are plugging into said powerboards you might want to consider spending more than $20 protecting them rather than going no name Bunnings brand…
@pennypincher98: Arlec certainly isn't impressive. My powerbars used to be Fujitsu and Schieder Electric, which unfortunately are not available here. Consumer powerbar choice in Australia kind of sucks when Belkin seems to be the most respectable and fairly expensive choice. And discarded APC bars from datacentres are too bulky to use casually.
you might want to consider spending more than $20 protecting them rather than going no name Bunnings brandâŚ
No, I just think that surge protection at the consumer powerbar level is a useless gimmick. Same way that I consider extra cost extended warranties a gimmick. I don't buy 'protected' powerbars if there's an option.
Is this the Monster brand that sell HDMI cable for $200 many years ago?
$200? Must have been a cheap one xD
True, some go up to $400 and guess you sell them? Bloody Norman.
That includes the drink as well.
curious if anyone has ever tried claiming on their $30k connected equipment cover
That has a terrible reputation on Ozbargain for sparking. I personally wouldn't touch it.
Upvote. I have a Monster surge for almost eighteen yearâs still going strong. Good price.
Ouch
even better!
note that compared with this deal, that has less: surge protection, product and equipment warranty, spacing between sockets
No stock south east qld
This has 900 joules, and $50k cover. $44. Got one yesterday.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/belkin-surgeplus-8-outlet-2-usb-âŚ
thanks - $39 @ TGG Commercial
note: 2yr warranty, standard spacing between sockets (not wide), large footprint
This is not a deal, this is just a product that is for sale.
Or you could have 24 sockets for only $20 đ¤ˇââď¸
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/889182