Wife is due in June and is already complaining about the weight-gain. As a ‘push present’, she’s requesting Ozempic. (I find dietary and exercise discipline cheaper, but each to their own.)
I know Ozempic is in short supply in Australia. Does anybody here have experience getting it supplied? Are there any reliable overseas providers?
No way, man. We're going to keep on rocking forever…Forever…forever…
Forever?
Ozempic is a bit scarce still. Mounjaro is probably the thing these days.
But would want a gp to explain the risks whilst breastfeeding etc.
So fat chance of getting any?
Honestly can your wife accept there's no miracle cure and just diet/exercise?
I say this because my mum as a diabetic can struggle to get Ozempic because of this stupid dieting crap. Lazy people who only think of themselves and losing weight without doing anything and take it away from actually sick people who need it. Pretty gross.
O.P.'s wife don't care, wants that push present. FFS!
push present ? ? then offer her real mans push, i think multiple pushes will make most girls happy, they climax with joy.
how can you go wrong, cheap, desirable , no health side affects, bang wam and your done
I'll get downvoted for this most likely due to the ozb demographic… But to be fair, like 70% of people with diabetes could also be described as "fat lazy people who didn't do enough on their own to take care of themselves so need subsidized drugs to keep them going"
Just saying 🤷♂️
Look into the side-effect and the longer term data now coming out :/
please send link ?
Google Scholar broken again?!?
'I find dietary and exercise discipline cheaper, but each to their own'
This is a funny can of worms. Apparently it's projected to increase productivity and reduces the financial strain of long term extra cost of food.
That is compared to staying fat, not compared to diet and exercise.
Ozempic stock is meant to be reserved for diabetes, under PBS.
It is rebranded as Wegovy for weight management, and there should be plenty around. Private scripts only of course.
Mounjaro is more expensive and should have lots of stock as well.
Like others have said, none of these meds are safe for breastfeeding / pregnancies.
Yep!
My friend got Wegovy for weight management. Almost $300 a month for a minimal dose and he had to be considered morbidly obese to qualify for it.
It actually jumps up to $380 a month once you gradually increase to either of the 2 long term dosages (1.7 or 2.4)
Actually jumps to 450.00 a month when you get to the final level.
Thanks for your clear, helpful response to my question - one of the few here.
And you are prepared to let her take Ozempic knowing this - If anything went wrong you would never forgive yourself.
"You should avoid taking Ozempic while pregnant or trying to conceive. While there is limited human data, animal studies suggest that Ozempic may harm a developing fetus"
developing fetus"
I believe op is implying she take it after baby is out (and I assume being a responsible parent would wait till baby was reliably and successfully transferred to full time formula)
I did not get that impression at all. Baby is due in 6 months and she is already complaining of weight gain and she is requesting Ozempic. My reading is that she wants the product now, not in June.
They said ‘push present’ as in the misso gets it after baby comes out.
(I believe that’s still the usual protocol)
They said ‘push present’ as in the misso gets it after baby comes out.
I always thought the present was the actual baby :)
@SBOB: New dad : the real present was the baby
Misso: but in a more real sense, the present was the present.
The major point is pregnant and asking for a shortcut. Not a good luck for lots of reasons, with medical being just one.If I was unlucky enough to be the partner navigating these treacherous seas, would I post this thread on OZb….
I think not.
But as I said previously, this is the way humans (1st world) behave now.It's all about entitlement and nothing else.I want it all I want it yesterday, and preferably at someone else's expense.Throw in herd validation to the mix.
A responsible parent doesn't "transfer their baby to formula" if they have any means of avoiding doing so. Various studies attest to the benefits of extended breast feeding until a child can have a natural (non-processed) diet.
It's what crosses her lips that swells the hips. This short cut to avoid less eating or correct eating sums up humanity.
I question some peoples rationale in having kids in the first place, if this sort of 'solution' is even on their mind.
The self entitlement of humans must be the only commodity we will never exhaust
EDIT: I hope they never subsidise these sort of drugs for anything other than a diagnosed medical condition.
Lifestyle shortcuts should not be impacting on diabetics (etc) drug supply. DRs who flout that line in the sand should be suspended,IMHO.
I hope they never subsidise these sort of drugs for anything other than a diagnosed medical condition.
Like obesity and being overweight? Both medical conditions.
Being overweight by choice (overeating and under-exercising) is a lifestyle choice.
Delusion is not a medical condition.
Thinking being overweight is solely a lifestyle choice and nothing more is delusional. There are a number of conditions that can cause excessive weight gain.
@Clear: Yep, but 90% of non medical condition cases are driven by choice.(That's what I'm talking about). You're just enabling those poor outcomes driven by behavioural conditioning by excusing the lump sum.(pun intended).
@Protractor: Ozempic takes too long anyway. When I needed to lose weight I lost 25kg in nearly 3 weeks 😉
@Sammy2000: It's unrealistic. The first couple of days involve being unconscious and potentially losing some internal organs. After that it's essentially a very low calorie liquid/puree diet and letting ketosis do the rest.
On a more serious note a keto diet can work if you're strict. Self control is extremely hard. I know for me after 2 weeks of no sugar anything sweet like lemonade is disgusting. Very easy to get addicted again.
Google "ozempic blindness risk" for a bunch of pages on that particular issue.
You can’t be blinded by Ozempic if you’re already blinded by the prospect of being a size-6.
It should be noted that Insulin has the same effect: https://www.epicresearch.org/articles/liraglutide-and-insuli…
If you're not diabetic or pre-diabetic then this is not a risk factor
Surely she will lose the weight with all the breast feeding.
And 5kg on the day!
exactly!!! I weighed less straight after having a baby than what I weighed before the pregnancy…twice!!!!
NO drugs needed!!!
Then, like the Barbarella of history, you are blessed above all women.
My wife wants painless solutions, not difficult ones demanding discipline and exertion.
My wife wants painless solutions, not difficult ones demanding discipline and exertion.
And you're having a kid?
You're in for a shock then
As a ‘push present’, she’s requesting Ozempic
FFS
Thought about just buying her some Lizzo instead?
Ozempic is hormonal, as is pregnancy weight.
As soon as she gives birth, the hormone levels change, appetite drops, and it is like natural Semaglutide. With little effort, the kilos melt away. At least it should work that way, but some women find some weight stays on. This could be due to dramatic lifestyle changes that come with a baby!
First, just try to keep up whatever routine she was on pre-pregnancy to get exercise. With luck, she will not need it.
This is our third. There has been a ratchet effect, to say the least.
I see. Still, pregnancies vary even for the same woman.
As a (fropanity) what? Wtf is a "push present"??
Just when I think humanity has dived to the lowest depths of stupidity, someone comes along in their Oceangate sub and pushes the "dive" button…
It’s what happens when peak consumerism meets peak bogan.
Hahahahahahaha that is such a brilliant explanation. I’m going to steal that for social situations
Although you could also argue that pink and blue burnout tyres fall under this description
Humanity, as a term, is redundant for today's version of humans
Wtf is a "push present"??
It's what happens a few months after the gender reveal burn outs.
Burnt rubber makes scents. Cheers
As a woman who ballooned due to pregnancy (I was literally allergic), got 3 hernias and has taken years and surgeries to fix, I find the use of Ozempic for dieting abhorrent.
Diabetics are struggling with medication management. To have a necessary drug for life consumed by vanity is just the ultimate height of narcissistic entitlement.
Women change due to pregnancy. Push present? Are you kidding? That's the child! Heaven forbid a woman gets a tear, hernia, incontinence, nerve damage, or any other reproductive issues in the process.
Reality check, aisle 1….
Newsflash, anyone can have a baby.For whatever reason they choose. Many are the least valid reasons.That's the problem.
The solution (according to policy and populism) is to encourage more of this. " Must have babies or we'll all die tomorrow"
So expect to see more of this ridiculous behaviour.
Very sad, yet very true. Equally supported by ridiculous Medicare payments.
Ironic that the last person considered in the 'pay to breed' model, is the actual baby and it's life going fwd.
It's perverse.
@Protractor: If it eases your pearl-clutching a little, rest assured that we take good care of our children.
I loathe the term ‘push present’: it makes her sound like a gravid barnyard animal. But apparently that’s all the rage with her TikTok influencers.
@Chris17: You've dropped several replies since that seem to indicate you would be way better served NOT caving in, and instead get counselling for either your wife or both of you.At a minimum (just my pearl clutching opinion) there needs to a very real appraisal of the impact of tik tok and any other social media driving or influencing decisions. The size 6 comment needs an expert intervention mindset.
Her words, her wishes.
I find the term entitled, materialistic and gross, but that doesn’t change her fervent desire for Ozempic.
Setting aside the Ozempic/weight loss matter, what concerns me more about this in general is the mental health ongoing of Mum.
Peri and Anti Natal Depression and Anxiety are real, as is pregnancy fear and anxiety. We live in a society that demonises motherhood, birthing and everything surrounding it. If we didnt, the idea of jabbing oneself with a drug to rapidly gain a 'pre baby body', despite the contraindications with breastfeeding, just wouldnt exist.
Im actually angry and frustrated that this stuff isn't just banned (on media) and that woman are disgustingly becoming a large group of self sabotaging hypocrites who happily destroy other women.
Please watch your partner 🙏
Thanks for your thoughts.
She has had terrible PPD in the past. There’s a lot to unpack in her presentation and I’m not sure where her head will be after birth. I can only make strong suggestions that she, as an adult, is free to ignore.
push present
Next post in 6 months…
My pregnant wife had an emergency C section. Does she deserve a push present?
Require a diagram of a baby Roman emperor being removed via the abdomen, including wreath-crown.
Non-PBS-subsidised Ozempic is supplied through a different supply chain from PBS-subsidised Ozempic (more info here). People who are getting Ozempic for weight loss (rather than diabetes) are not taking the supply away from diabetics. The alternate supply for non-diabetics is exactly the same product, from the same manufacturer, and is TGA approved.
Yep, refer to the "Overseas-registered Ozempic is available" section.
Not true. At the moment, ozempic is very hard to obtain from suppliers, wegovy available at $260 per month
Most pharmacists stopped buying non-PBS Ozempic when Wegovy became available because many of their clients switched over to a high dose of semaglutide on the Wegovy scripts. In DecemberI asked my local chemist (who uses one of the alternate non-PBS suppliers) and he indicated he can still can stock of Ozempic from them easily with a couple days notice.
You just need to find a chemist who uses these alternate suppliers. If they are willing, point them to this TGA page which has the phone numbers of those suppliers.
Yes, I know this alternative supplier, but they are asking stupid expensive price, and you have to buy a large quantity from them, purely for profit gouging.
Baby is gaining weight - that's great news.
As a ‘push present’….
When did this become a thing?
Did you get a present when you did the original pushing to make your deposit! lol
The term is gross. Apparently it’s something she’s entitled to after carrying a baby for nine months.
I'm all for this. I want a' push present' for my efforts every morning, about 6am…
I think I deserve it.
Not going to comment on the ickyness of a “push present”, your wife’s clear issues with her self-esteem or the dangers of using medication while pregnant/ breastfeeding.
However, if your doctor is prescribing Ozempic solely for weight loss purposes, that’s a quack. Given the shortage, I’d also question their moral compass as I have family members with T1 diabetes who can’t even get it from their endocrinologist and/or get their scripts filled.
There is the option of Wegovy, which is the non PBS form of the drug and identical in every way to Ozempic. Funny how there’s no supply issues there- likely because it’ll run you $250 a month with a doctor’s script, which they will only write if your BMI is >30. It’s $450 a month from an online provider like Juniper and they’ll happily hand it out like candy if you’ve got the dough.
However, there’s no guarantee it will even work. Putting aside all the ‘celebs’ who’ve seemingly lost weight overnight, a very high number of people on these meds have horrid side effects such as nausea and constipation. Massive amounts of thyroid and gallbladder problems. Weight gain after stopping, meaning they’ll have to take it for life. And there are many reports of people don’t even respond to the drug at all.
Is that really a risk that you will enable, or even want your wife- the mother of your children- to take?
Thank you for your thoughtful, informative answer. There’s certainly much to ponder.
Yes, I have read the TGA data and the weight loss vs placebos is dubious. I mean, it's there and it's technically 'double' but we're talking 2-3kgs vs 5-6kgs in a year (for 80-90kg persons).
Obviously results vary, but with so many contraindications, side effects and a 5%+ drop off in users, never mind the chances of infection etc with needles, surely this is really for the rare, hard to move, high BMI cases?
Anything that impacts your endocrine system , in the name of vanity , is beyond red light
Yup. Great summary.
I take it for diabetes (legit diabetes, had it for 26 years) and it gives me ZERO weight loss benefits. I don't get any of the affects that some do.
Don't care, makes management of the diabetes easier.
And yeah, part of getting onto it was huge issues with ..ummm… Needing the toilet often. And not in a pretty way. The gas was epically painful.
I currently take Mounjaro - have had no availability issues in inner-melbourne. $280 (plus needles - $5). Got a prescription online / bulk billed phone consult. Dropped 5kgs in the first 4 weeks.
In true Ozbargain style - get some insulin syringes to get a '5th dose' out of the pen - note: i'm not a doctor.
I thought you were only supposed to take a mini-dose for the first few weeks?
That is the loading dose of mounjaro, higher doses costs from 395 to 590
Take into account what the mother will pass on to the baby via breastfeeding. It's not something I'd risk.
The government should make it illegal to prescribe Ozempic other than it's intended use for diabetic people.
it is now. cannot initiate ozempic unless for medical indications.
wegovy is available which is ozempic under a different brand just wack a higher price tag on it. peak pharma for you.
mounjaro is the other one that's available that's slightly more efficacious
if she's requesting it now even before birth she doesn't need ozempic she needs her concerns addressed sensitively by you and her GP.
I doubt "wegovy" is actually a higher price, its probably just subsidized less by the taxpayers.
I guess the trick is to "let yourself go" far enough that you actually end up diabetic, then get the "cheap" ozempic , gotta play the long game 😉
it's a higher price - just google the non-pbs price on chemist warehouse website $145 ozempic vs $249-$445 for wegovy of varied dose
There's zero subsidy from the taxpayer for Wegovy.
I don't think it's recommended to take ozempic while breastfeeding, if you planning on breastfeeding the baby.
Unlikely to get ozempic anyhow.
Doctors are now are directed to steer non diabetics to wegovy or monjaro to protect stock of ozempic.
Easily obtained off script if you have a bit of nous and know where to look. Retatrutide is the way to go though.
Yup, pilot and juniper at $400 a month. Though it's been said some of their stuff is home brew versions also.
push present
😂 What a time to be alive.
I used to be with 'it', but then they changed what 'it' was. Now what I'm with isn't 'it' anymore and what's 'it' seems weird and scary