Hi all, what is the going rate for standard set of 4 tyres or per tyre cost before getting ripped off. Just general tyres like Bridgestone or Michelin would be good. Just a standard 15 inch tyre.
Should you go for premium brands like Bridgestone/Michelin or cheaper Korean brands like Kumho tyres?
Are the TuranzaSerenity Plus tyres good?
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The problem is that you don't know who they send around to install them. In our case, it was a place that we haven't had good service from previously.
Our local Bob Jane does a better job overall, and I'll be going there again next time.
Another lesson I learned: don't go for cheap. Thank me when your car stops in time, or manages to successfully negotiate a corner in the rain.
Thank me when your car stops in time, or manages to successfully negotiate a corner in the rain.
I don't have these problems. Probably something to do with the way I drive. To the conditions.
LOL, the one and only time I bought tyres at a Bob Jane they sold me 4 new(out of round tyres). Kudos they eventually replaced them, but not before blaming me, accusing me of braking hard causing flat spots etc. (They were all out of round with high spots. (I tested them at home first to suss out what was going on .Symptoms were car would suddenly feel like driving a clown car(as wheels all had high spots line up, it wobbled and vibrated when they were not in synch.It took a few days from fitting for the problem to arise, so they must have been shit and began to delaminate).
They fitted 4 new alt brand of tyres that were OK, but after being blamed for their problem I don't even acknowledge them as a viable option any more.Franchised or not.
Hey how'd you test them at home? I think a new car we have might have tyre issues as there's a strange resonance at 80-90, up to 100.
@sillycattle: I jacked up each corner of the vehicle (chocked safely,handbrake etc)
Have a fixed pointer just clear of tyre surface and rotate the wheel by hand.You're looking for where the tyre hits the tyre in only one are on the tyre. Use the test at different points across the tyre surface.(Inner edge area,middle,outer edge area) If you find one out of round tyre,quit there and just take action, because at that point you should piss all 4 off anyway.
You should be able to rule out the following other issues being a new car, but your resonance (and ppl in the same boat) could be centre bearing on t/shaft,FWD drive shafts,uni joint,engine/gbox mount.
If you do find something out, report back and make yourself a rare hero of the forum.
@Protractor: Thanks! I will give that a go in the coming days and report back. The tyres are a decent brand- Michelin Pilot 3st. But you can always have a bad one I guess. Tyres are just less invasive to get looked at/checked than other stuff.
@sillycattle: You could get a tyre place to put them on the balancer and check the round too, but it would cost $$ and to be honest,probs take longer than DIY (that's if you could even get them to agree)
@Protractor: Ok it was very easy. Got a chance this Arvo. Yep I think they're a few mm out of round. It is so hard to see in a picture or video. But it's a lot.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/emWbwvWumFBewiBH6
It has a build year of 2022 so I suspect that is has deformed the tyres due to high pressure storage under load at presumably high temperature in Asia.
I took pictures but the tread depth is the same for the high and low spot. I imagine this might explain the problem? In any case I'm going to request they buy me a set of 4 new tyres. I don't want them to give way because of some sort of fatigue issue. They would likely be fine, but it's a new car and done 3500km and it's annoying to hear so I think that's only fair.
Would you agree it could contribute?
@sillycattle: Ok so my math says that I should experience around 30hz noise based on the size of the flat spot at 80km/h. Whatever it is exactly I reckon that's it so thanks for the help!
@sillycattle: If there's a few mm difference, as in high spots per tyre, or even a cpl you will def get drumming or worse. The Noddy mobile effect. If you tested it well and found those high spots so should a dealer or tyre place. As for the frequency of drumming, I don't rate it as hertz (not my wheelhouse) it varies on my scale from annoying humming to roller coaster rock and roll.The latter is how bad my set were. I also would not rule out that the tyres were out of round quite early. Someone in the factory may have gaffed.
It's weird .You can go for a drive and almost pick the exact time all four high spots synch up and it literally feels like you are moving up and down like in a side show ride.Hope you sort it.
But Tyroola are supply only.
Tyre fitters dont like fitting tyres they dont sell and hence charge a premium for doing so
There’s no standard tyre size or price. $150-200 each would be a ballpark for a decent tyre.
OP should start here, IMO - https://www.bobjane.com.au/s/35-12-5r15-tyres-1
https://www.bobjane.com.au/s/295-50r15-tyres - that is also acceptable.
Stock standard 15" tyres, what could go wrong?
And to give a recommendation - need a location
He has 15" tyres, he should be able to get tyres way cheaper than this IMO from e.g. Kumho or Hancook or some other Korean brand (under $100). Not Bridgestone or Michelines but perfectly fine for his van or mini
every other month there is a bridgestone buy 3 get 1 free. for a 14 in tyre you are probably after an ecopia, which isnt on that promo right now but probably next month or so
and if you can wait until black friday mycar has buy 1 get 1 Pirellis
Pirellis are not what they used to be unfortunately. Michelin are a much better tyre.
OK, but he's driving something that's has 15" wheels…
I have been driving on Pirelli for a few years, and while to the best the cintaurato p6 tyres are decently hard wearing (getting 60k km out of them at least), making them good for the average driver that isn't a hoon
You get what you pay for,or not.I've never had luck with getting better mileage from BStone compared to cheaper generic Asian made tyres.I look for the higher end of cheaper(know brands) that are made in countries that have large rubber plantations. Highest mileage I've even gotten was from Korean Woo Sung? brand https://www.rubbernews.com/article/20000126/NEWS/301269997/w…
Have been going for Nexen,Roadstone, etc ever since. They have other brands in the mix too, I think
im about to replace a set of 4 turanza serenity plus with 70k km
High mileage.is all well and good, but how's the grip?
Everything is fine.Grip,noise,stopping etc. Mileage and price is the bonus.People treat tyres like AFL teams.More often than not they barrack for Dads team
@Protractor: True about brand loyalty, its often quite irrational. There is often not a significant difference between brands.
Cheap brands however often make long lasting tyres that dont grip or grippy tyres that wear out really quick because they dont pay for the best designs or materials.
How and where you drive makes a massive difference to any tyres longevity.
@Euphemistic: Yeah my hooning days are well over.Too expensive.
Also keeping an eye on tyre wear and acting to avoid irreversible wear is the go (common sense really).
My FIL was a rabid Bridgestone tyre buyer. But more because his local tyre place was run by a bloke with crusty curmudgeonitis like him . He drove his Fairmont like a nana and the tyres never did the miles warranted for the cost .It was always well maintained/aligned) I'm talking expensive end of the scale back then. (1990s-2000's). And Bridgestone AT 4x4 variations (my experience) are overrated and start with lots of tread, but wear quickly on mixed roads.
14 inches? What kind of clown car do you own?
There is no such thing as a "standard" 14" tyre. There are many width and sidewall profiles
What is the tyre size on the sidewall of the tyre? Format will be NNN/NNr14
Also Tyre shops dont go out and rip-off
Its a very competitive industry
Unless of course Op is in a remote area.
So OP has the WRONG ATTITUDE already
I wouldn't use the term "rip-off" but prices vary greatly and buyer should always shop around and compare prices
Are Kumho tyres good? it seems cheapest
You need to state the car make and model, and I assume the wheels are stock standard
Going for the cheapest isn't a good idea in general, while Australia has minimum standards to meet with tyres, I have installed cheap tyres because I was broke AF and needed tyres. I went for the cheapest I could find through Tempe Tyres and I can tell you, DO NOT DO THIS……. after a few months, my wheels started spinning in the rain, the grip was so bad that I would subtle skid at turns. I changed my tyres and pirelli and my car is handling much more better without skids or spinning.
But in saying that, without knowing your car and I assume you drive like the average person in metro and highways, budget 150-200 per tyre then find deals like buy 4 get 1 free with free installation. Keep in mind, you may need to pay for wheel balancing ontop.
thanks for the heads up, I was thinking of stock standard as per original tyres were Michelin Energy XM2+ . not sure if they are still good these days. or Bridgestone or Continental are better these days.
Michelin are still great, are you basing them potentially not being that any more on anything at all? Bridgestone are fine. Continental tend to have a very soft compound so don't last as long.
Michelin Energy XM2+ are a great tyre for their purpose. Guessing the car is a mid sized sedan or hatch. Unless there is something about them that you are unhappy with, I'd get a new set of Michelin Energy XM2+.
people keep asking what size tyre u have and you keep ignoring the request.
If u liked the Michelin get the latest equivalent. They won't be the cheapest but they will be quality.
Use the Michelin website to find your nearest dealer
Agree to avoid Tempe Tyres as their tyres are cheap for a reason since they parallel import from wherever they can cheaply source them for various reasons.
Kumho tire is now 45% owned / controlled by a Chinese conglomerate. Not what they used to be.
You obviously have no idea about anything
Like any other brand, Kumho offer budget models to premium models.
Best then to stick with the same tyres that came with the car
Shop around and get the best price on those.
Kumho is fine and is a reputable brand.
Kumon thumbs down.
Kumon thumbs down.
Just the maths, or other subjects too?
JV , "you've done it again".
The first of many for the new year , I can promise.
price search from others Then check price from Costco.May get better price even you need join their membership.
Better to look at Costco first. Almost everyone price matches/beats Costco anyway if you ask them.
How about stating the Tyre sizes at the minimum?
That's either personal information that OP needs to censor, or in OPs view irrelevant. They're 15 inch tyres after all.
OP https://www.costco.com.au/medias/sys_master/images/h07/h4a/3…
that will tell you the tyre size, dont worry about the last two values ie load/speed rating.
What sort of car is it? Hatch, SuV, sedan, ute, expensive, cheap, powerful, slow, heavy, light?
What sort of driving do you do? City only, highway, freeway, dirt roads? drive like a race driver or a grandma? skilled or newbie?
What do you want from your tyres? Grip, long lasting, cheap? Pick any two.
Will you wear the tyres out or going to sell the car soon?
There are so many factoes in buying a tyre that it is impossible to say what is the best for you from your OP. Anyone who recommends a tyre without knowing at least some of the answers fdom above should be dismissed.
If only this question was more vague
Not just vague, when you ask the OP info he doesn’t supply any
OP is trolling.
Next post will be "I have a car, what oil should I use?"
Other members should be allowed to report to mods and close down time wasting threads like this.
"Took my car in for a service and now there's a lid under the bonnet that says '710', should I contact the ACCC?"
Michelin tend to be the best tyres you can get. Any major legacy brand (Bridgestone, Pirelli, Goodyear etc.) will more than likely do you fine. Don't cheap out on tyres.
Location NSW: tempe tyres all day long
Kumho isn't a cheap tier brand. The slippery rubbish from China is.
How do you know whether the Kumho tyres you're buying are from one of the three Kumho plants in South Korea, or one of the three Kumho plants in China?
its more a brand thing than anything. Sure the Korean tyres might be marginally better but I for one have Vietnamese made AT52s and they're perfectly good tyres.
Chinese brand tyres have a bad name for themselves as they invest little in R&D compared to big name brands and prioritise Asian market priorities (longevity) over Western ones (Performance/Safety).
If a Michelin Pilot Sport 5 was made in China/France, I would be relatively indifferent to which i got (would hope for a slightly cheaper price for Chinese made)
You are perfectly correct that the quality of products generally is much more related to who owns and runs a plant, and puts their name on the product, than it is to what country the plant it is in and the nationality of the workers in it. So with tyres its not the ones made in China that are nasty, but the Chinese brand ones.
OP please provide an actual tyre size, if you want any personalised feedback
Guide is to look at tempe tyres pricing.
Look at prior OzB deals (4 for 3 or 33% off offers and look at pricing for your set with those deals) and try and get as close as possible.
OP based on your questions and responses so far I think you can use the inners from your Confidence toilet paper rolls
WTF did I just read? FFS.
Since when are Kumhos cheap? They are an internationally recognised name brand, and even supply tyres for Volkswagen.
When I talk cheap, I am looking at sub $100 Chinese tyres like Long Longs (which I use) or some other brand no one's ever heard of. Thanks to tyroola.
Bridgestone Turanza
Buy brand name like Michelin, Bridgestone or Good Year.
The price difference between a brand name and a crap tyre isn't that great, maybe $200-$300 a set of 4 but the difference in how they handle is massive.
Many years ago I was waiting on delivery of a new car but needed new tyres on my old car so I brought the cheapest tyres available as I was selling the car when my new car arrived in three months.
They were terrible in the dry and bordered on deadly in the wet.
If it was me I would be buying Michelin, I generally stick to Pilot Sport 5.
Don't worry about the pretend buy 3 and get the 4th free deals, many local shops (like Tempe Tyres) will have better prices all year round and Jax will beat their prices.
I have narrowed it to Bridgestone or Firestone fuel fighters, I heard it's either made in Thailand or Vietnam these days.
Anyone has experience with Firestone?
You are making this so much more difficult than it needs to be.
Insufficient data for meaningful answer
At minimum the numbers you've redacted in your post title are needed in order to answer your question.
Car type as well.
You seem scared to share the car or tyre size details, driving style/conditions, is there some reason you are terrified to reveal this essential info to provide decent advise?
BMX
What about Hankook, all Tesla new cars on Hankook.
Now, all European brands have sold their licence to giant Chinese factories, which will roll out their branded tyres—for example, Continental. In August, I replaced my car tyres for $220 each, my son got his Continental Tyres replaced for $190 each, and recently, I went to a tyre shop to fix my puncture, and he was offering $140 each. I just casually asked him why they were so cheap. He says they are Chinese, and the cheapest Chinese tyre is for $120.
Not sure why are we paying a premium on branded tyres. It's the same as Fisher & Paykel appliances and Haier both come from the same Chinese factory and sell at half the price with only premium labels.
Just becasue a car has a particular tyre brand on their cars doesnt mean they are any better than another brand. It ONLY means the performance of the tyre at delivery is acceptable AND the manufucturers got together and did a supply deal for the lowest cost tyre.
I now swear by Kumho tyres. I got well over 70000 km out of my last set. Well worth the extra investment, combined with their warranty.
Keep them inflated slightly higher than your car manual says - makes them wear much more evenly, of course YMMV (quite literally in this case).
Exact same experience! Kumho 💯
Does cracks on the tyres mean, tyres are worn and need replacement?
Depends on the severity, I'd say it generally means the rubber is aged and may justify replacement.
"That's 13 13 32" . "Bob Jane….t marts". I just start singing and call Bob when I need new tyres. I'll pay a little bit extra to Bob.
When I bought my wife's previous Mazda 2 it had a couple VIKING CityTech CT6 8 tyres from Mycar on it and I was pleasantly surprised by them. Cheap and perfectly fine for a runabout, so I whacked another couple on it when the other tyres were up for replacement. Would readily buy again.
Have used Bridgestone Ecopia and Serenity Plus on previous cars and would also consider those if they were competitively priced (ie. On a 4 for 3 sale).
I have the Turanza Serenity Plus - great tyres. Got them through Bridgestone Select, i had a nail in the sidewall and they replaced the tyre for 1/3 of the cost as part of their ongoing care offer.
Here just to say that Kumho aren’t low-end tyres, they’re a solid mid range choice, above your Nexens and such. My Hyundai came with them from new and the first set lasted four years and maybe 70,000km and still had life when I changed them. Quiet and reliable in all conditions too. So good that I bought the exact same set (from a Hyundai dealer no less) at change time.
Tyroola good starting point for baseline then ring around to compare