20GB Monthly SIM Only Plan $10/Month for 6 Months ($15/Month with 6GB Data Thereafter) @ Circles.Life

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Physical or eSim available. Would be useful for someone coming off the $9.80/month Moose Mobile deal

For Circles.Life 6GB Monthly Plan: Use promo code 25NEWYEAR20G at checkout to receive 14GB per month Bonus Data for the first full 6 months + $5 discount per month for the first full 6 months.
No lock-in contracts
Unlimited Standard National Calls
Unlimited Standard National SMS
Unlimited Local Voicemail
VoLTE & VoWifi Capability

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Comments

  • Will this do for a kids smart watch or is there something cheaper/less data?

    • +2

      https://www.aldimobile.com.au/products/95-data-plan

      Cheaper.
      $7.91 a month equivalent, 2.5gb per month equivalent.

      Also the telstra mvno network is arguably better than the optus network. But that is area dependant.

      • That aldi plan is data only, hence the data only name! If it was my kids, I'd rather that they had calls and txt only

        • In a smart watch? For what use?

          You need data for monitoring and to do the typical 'facetime' style calls they do.

  • +6

    Optus network for those wondering.

  • -4

    Another brand I never heard of. I wonder, when someone in China will think that instead of hacking MFA and passwords of aussies they can start a tiny new sub-operator like this one and get full direct access to cellphones with no hacking. Adding to the account that a good 0-day vulnerability may cost over $1m and will be spent for one hack, while such a company could be used for years and even earn money itself.

    • Too late, thats been happening for literal decades. Its an SS7 weakness.

      https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/SS7-attack


      Regardless of that: circles.life has been around for at least 15 years Id wager, by now. However there is a very agreed upon anecdote of people getting SMS spam and calls on numbers they port in; so tread with caution.

      • +1

        That's an old story, 3G is disabled now. I mean something like a huge sniffer that would record, look, intercept, and inject data on the fly in 5G networks.

        • 3g is only disabled in Australia.

          The premise of an SS7 attack relies on telling the telco they're roaming, it still works fine.

          • -2

            @MasterScythe: I'm only concerned about us here. Other countries might have given away keys of their kingdoms themselves by using Huawei routers.

            • @Ozzster: Ok? Either way, what you suggest has been happening for years, and continues to, via SS7. Disabling 3G locally makes no changes to that, it'd have to be globally.

              5G mitm would be much harder, and against any of us who host our own VPN server, fruitless

              • @MasterScythe: any of us who host our own VPN server? How would it help against SMS with MFA being intercepted?

                I can't say I know many people owning a VPN server.

            • -3

              @Ozzster: Lol. Show me actual evidence of Huawei router backdoors that you are referring to?
              Like not even people I know working for the Feds can point me to anything that has been substantially proven this.

              • +2

                @bchliu: Unfortunately, secret services, unexpectedly, don't publish secret details, so I have to believe news. Knowing that Cisco did it, why Huawei wouldn't ?

                • -1

                  @Ozzster: There's about a hundred thousand or more "cyber security" companies around the world that pick up all of the most sensitive information or leaks everywhere. The US has been accusing Huawei for what.. eight or more years now? To date, NONE of these companies have ever published a single substantial bit of evidence independently of governments to prove this. It only takes ONE company from the hundred thousand in eight years to do this.

                  Cisco and others have been leaking and these HAVE been found.. ever heard of PRSM and Edward Snowden? or the Israeli backdoors that have been found everywhere?

                  "We can't tell you because it's top secret" usually means "Just TRUST us, bro!"… from the government. err.. BS.

                  • +2

                    @bchliu: You mix hardware brands, mobile operators, governments, and just anyone established a company. Let's sort things one by one. With nearly daily breaches allegedly made by China, with the law forcing all Chinese companies to cooperate with CCP, do we have any reasonable doubt that they wouldn't use Huawei for the same?

                    • -2

                      @Ozzster: Again, we talk about a rule of law here. "Reasonable doubt" is not evidence of wrongdoing. You can call it a "risk" but history of eight or more years have proven this to be false. That is no better than any Salem witch hunt trials, but weaponised to try and disable their competition from the market (Huawei).

                      • @bchliu: @MS Paint pls help

                      • +2

                        @bchliu: The evidence of wrongdoing in breaches are very rare. You usually get some logs here and there, if lucky you get a piece obfuscated code. Only being extracted in that particular infrastructure would make them the evidence. Otherwise, you always can say that this was crafted in a lab to set them up. How do you expect to get that access to get the evidence? What is the system of working with the evidence where we do not trust neither their owner nor officials?

                        • -2

                          @Ozzster: Lol. You really have no idea what you are on about. Wrongdoing in breaches can be tracked through audit trails all the way through and even on deeper levels through packet inspects, listening devices and all. These are done through majority of telcos and are often audited and inspected by cyber companies contracted to do so.

                          Again, IF something was found and pointed it directly to Huawei - then the company or individual would be famous overnight and the media will be talking about it for the next century. There would also be leakers / whistle blowers that would also do this. But nothing has ever been found to date. This information does not have to come from the government - but can be individually and independently found and can be tested across the world to get replicated results, then you can nail it on Huawei. There's been so many attempts at this and nothing has been found or published.

                          • +3

                            @bchliu: Don't forget that you don't trust anyone, as well as the data they give you. As well as third parties, because it will be again "Just TRUST us, bro!" If you're paranoid, remain paranoid and explain how the system works without forgetting that you are paranoid.
                            Or, accept the reasonable doubt.

                            • -2

                              @Ozzster: Trust the Government? Lol. Tell that to Edward Snowden, Julian Assange etc. No thanks.

                              • +3

                                @bchliu: I got your point. I didn't get how to live without any trust. And you, so far, can't explain.

                                • @Ozzster: I trust only in evidence that can be presented and that if they want to make an accusation, the onus is on them to prove that accusation. (Standard rule of law in any rules based country / system).

                                  When you are presented with no evidence but the "reasonable doubt" or "risk", then it means jack until it is proven to be true. It's pretty simple that you don't blindly faith the trust on "Trust us bro.. we are the govt and we are always right".

                                  • +2

                                    @bchliu: If you will have an official showing you a screenshot of a log, would you trust it? Or what kind of presentation is trustworthy for you?

                                    • -2

                                      @Ozzster: No. Evidence isn't just from a screenshot of a single log but about the method to get the evidence and that can be traced and provable and repeatable with other tests from other countries or organisations. It's called scientific method. Again, this is the minimum effort required in a court of law for the accuser to provide or else the whole case will be chucked out the window.

                                      • @bchliu: Have you ever heard of that happening in reality? Not when a neighbor hacked a WiFi router, but when the governments and hardware brands were allegedly wrongdoing against each other?

    • I've been using circles.life for years. No issues at all.

  • +1

    They don't support MMS messages FYI

    • You can request them to be activated through customer support, was just a simple web form

  • Am i missing something?
    Code: 25NEWYEAR20G just gives me the deal for 3 months instead of 6 months.

    • Ditto

    • +2

      You’re using the wrong code (25NEWYEAR20GR). You need to use 25NEWYEAR20G

      • Thanks, didn't catch that. Working now

      • +1

        Didnt see the extra R, working now
        Thanks

  • +2

    Last I used this service, there was a credit check on account. Are they still doing credit checks for new connections?

    • They are classified as a postpaid service hence the credit check

      Only realised that when I was porting out a few years back

    • I didn’t get a credit check.

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