First time dishwasher owner here… is there any difference between using the tablets v capsules? I have only used the platinum capsules so far and while I was happy with the results.
Unfortunately for a few weeks now I can't find any of the capsules in stock near me. Would the tablets give the same results?
I've heard their powder isn't very good anymore….seemed to change the formula
Working fine in my dishwasher.
Use Aldi powder. Works great and cheap. However, if you have regular hard baked on residue on your dishes, it's good to have backup tablets like Fairy or Finish.
Would the tablets give the same results?
Only one way to find out!
Personally, I use the cheap powder from whoever Ali/Colesworth and it is fine.
I use the “Shine” one from Woolworths. Seems to do the job well
how much do you have to use? I looked at the Aldi pack, but it doesn't say how much to use…..I didn't end up buying that though as others have said their new formula is really bad. I used to swear by their platinum tablets, but now they don't have them, only the much more expensive capsules
Less than 1/2 the recommended amount, and then when I close the compartment, there’s a little indent that I sprinkle more into
Other than the obvious convince and cost benefit… are their any other benefits to powder over tablets/capsules?
Yes, you can easily put powder in for the prewash as well as in the dispenser for the main wash. This is what most dishwashers are designed for.
You could put a tablet in dispenser, and powder or broken piece of tablet in pre-wash, but more effort.
we use the cheap Aldi tablets basically never have a problem, if we do we usually just put the dish back and it goes through on the next wash
I use a Woolies Shine Tablet within like the 'pre-wash' and then put a Finish tablet (buy when on special or from Costco) for the "final" element when the dishwasher opens the hatch. With rinse aid as well.
I always set mine to use Pots & Pans wash regardless of what is in there. Comes out clean every time.
Set it to run during the day when Solar is generating, costs bugger all and have clean dishes every time.
Baking soda with a couple of drops of dish soap should be official OzBargain solution.
And avoid rinse aids at ALL COSTS:
The observed detergent toxicity was attributed to exposure to rinse aid in a dose-dependent manner up to 1:20,000 v/v dilution. A disrupted epithelial barrier, particularly by rinse aid, was observed in liquid-liquid interface cultures, organoids, and gut-on-a-chip, demonstrating decreased transepithelial electrical resistance, increased paracellular flux, and irregular and heterogeneous tight junction immunostaining. When individual components of the rinse aid were investigated separately, alcohol ethoxylates elicited a strong toxic and barrier-damaging effect. RNA-sequencing transcriptome and proteomics data revealed upregulation in cell death, signaling and communication, development, metabolism, proliferation, and immune and inflammatory responses of epithelial cells. Interestingly, detergent residue from professional dishwashers demonstrated the remnant of a significant amount of cytotoxic and epithelial barrier–damaging rinse aid remaining on washed and ready-to-use dishware.
This paper is not an in viva study, and experiments were performed by introducing rinse aid directly to cells. It was suggested that professional rinse aid is safe at the 1:250 dilutions, but certain ingredients may be cytotoxic at greater dilutions. Without any studies within the body and/or for the long term, it is a far stretch to claim to avoid rinse aids at ALL COSTS.
So… absence of proof is proof of absence? Risk is my default assumption; safety is what requires proof. Not just of immediate critical hazard, but also of chronic long term use damage. Yes, the study was in vitro; in vivo study requires tons of money to pay for all the liabilities — dish soap companies aren't gonna pay for that, are they? (unless compelled to by the govt, but it's just cheaper to buy the govt instead)
absence of proof is proof of absence?
Sounds like Russell's teapot.
I suggest you do not drink rinse aid from the bottle, or eat the tablets.
Sounds like Russell's teapot.
Except the teapot onus of proof is on the assertion of safety, not of hazard. Hazard is the default assumption (“unknown unknowns”, and so forth).
@wisdomtooth: The point is that the abstract you have cited does not suggest the conclusion that you have come to. If you justify your stance per your risk statement, I would suggest drinking neither zero sugar drinks, nor any more tap water; who knows when the long term health effects of aspartame and PFAS are? And don't even think about consuming any product wrapped in plastic.
I am not claiming that chronic use of rinse aid will not give you cancer. My point is that the paper you have cited does not suggest the conclusion that you have come to. If you justify your stance per your risk statement, I would suggest drinking neither zero sugar drinks, nor any more tap water; who knows when the long term health effects of aspartame and PFAS are? And don't even think about consuming any product packaged in plastic.
Consider reading the rest of the paper before misapplying them to inform your assumptions.
Perhaps one day I will get cancer from using rinse aid on my dishes. Then again, perhaps the plastics will get us both.
I would suggest drinking neither zero sugar drinks
I don't.
nor any more tap water
Definitely not unfiltered.
who knows when the long term health effects of aspartame and PFAS are?
Exactly. Actually, there's plenty of evidence of the deleterious effects of these two already.
And don't even think about consuming any product wrapped in plastic.
Agreed!
The cheap bottled powder from ALDI and Woolworths is great. The Coles one seems to be too weak and you have to use a lot more to get a good wash. It's almost as if they've diluted it with something cheaper.
As much as I love a bargain, I find the Logix tabs occasionally leave small bits of powdery residue on plates, and also some grains of rice (asian fam yo).
The powder in the bottle is good though.
Lately I've just been buying in bulk when Finish is on sale…
Powder is best. Cheaper too.