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  • Clarky77 on 16/12/2024 - 15:58
    +3

    Ok, many times over the years I’ve been tempted to give one of these a try and I’ve taken up free trials on a couple however the ones I tried didn’t help when it came to watching geolocked sites/content at least the programs I wanted to watch on Netflix that weren’t available in Australia and a friend gave me his logins for HBO in the US but both were detected by the few VPN services I tried even though different servers (I spent the better part of a few days trying out all sorts of recommended tricks)
    I now use an iPhone which has a VPN option by default however that’s not helpful for home usage (chromecast, galaxy tab ect ect)
    Can someone in layman’s terms tell me why I should get a VPN and use it for all my internet traffic and can they tell me which brands are to be trusted (no logs, not linked to governments/nefarious characters, in jurisdictions that respect privacy ect) I don’t even torrent anything anymore and haven’t for years and haven’t had an issue of a show I wanted to watch isn’t available in Australia for even longer so I’m wondering if it’s even necessary.
    I think most people have already been through this and probably 5-10 years ago so I’m sorry to go over old ground but I’m hoping this question and hopefully some educated responses/answers will be useful to not just myself.
    Thanks in advance, my legendary OzB community (you guys are a wealth of knowledge and on balance usually useful knowledge ;P)

    • someone else on 16/12/2024 - 17:04
      +1

      All these services have consistently tried to block VPN. Having a dedicated IP address in the country you stream from is likely to have better results.
      I had HBO for years and was able to watch using NordVPN (non-dedicated IP) without any problems until HBO blocked my payment method.
      The same with Netflix, I used to simply switch my router settings and move from one country to another. Then Netflix blocked my payment method too.
      I was "happily" paying for Netflix, HBO and Disney/Hulu, in addition to Amazon AU, but they've all eventually blocked me.
      Currently, I only have Amazon Prime (for the other benefits) and have found other resources to watch what I want.

      If you want a dedicated IP, Pure VPN and Torguard probably have the most affordable dedicated IP services, but honestly… if you are trying to circunvent the blocks anyway, Stremio (Torrention + RD) is the way to go these days, and you can do that behind a VPN for additional privacy.

      Having your entire network behind a VPN technically gives you more privacy, but I think no one can guarantee 100% that a VPN won't be tracking what you are doing. Still, probably better than having your ISP knowing all devices that you have and every server that your devices connect to.

      When choosing a VPN, you can start here

    • Undercut 2241 on 16/12/2024 - 21:13
      +9

      @this is us
      This is mostly good info except for the second last paragraph and the comment "you can do that behind a VPN for additional privacy". Let me explain this topic in a way which I hope is understandable for most people. And also dispel some misinformation about public wifi and with common VPN advertisements. Everyone please read this if you have the time, I've taken time to write this and I trust it will be useful information if you are interested in this stuff.

      When you visit a website, by default your ISP can see the website you’re trying to access by monitoring DNS queries. These queries act like a log of the websites you visit. ISPs can (and will) track, log, and sell this information for profit. This is an extensively documented practice. *1 *2

      An incredible majority of people don't know they can switch to an encrypted DNS provider to avoid this. Changing to an encrypted DNS was the most privacy you could get from your ISP without a VPN, before Cloudflare introduced Encrypted Client Hello (ECH) in 2020. Before this - even with an encrypted DNS - the initial connection to the website would still reveal the top-level domain name you are connecting to such as ozbargain.com or youtube.com to your ISP. *3 *4

      They couldn't see the specifics of the content you are browsing such as the exact page you are looking at but they could still see the website you are visiting. The reason for this is HTTPS. With around 93% of the top million websites (*5) using HTTPS, your ISP cannot see the data you exchange with the website server, such as the information you give like login, credit card, etc. Or the information they give like the website content, video data, download data. This is why the comment "and you can do that behind a VPN for additional privacy" is incorrerct. HTTPS already protects the data you are downloading from RD (or anywhere that uses HTTPS). Your ISP cannot see what it is. Neither can anyone in public on public wifi. HTTPS is also why public wifi is mostly safe even if there were "hackers" everywhere prying on public wifi traffic like VPN adverts like to give the impression of.

      Initially it was Firefox was the first browser to support ECH and later I'm pretty sure most Chromium browsers also support it now. You can check here https://www.cloudflare.com/ssl/encrypted-sni/

      With this privacy upgrade (to most browsers now), combined with an encrypted DNS and HTTPS, your ISP cannot see the DNS queries (from using an encrypted DNS provider) or domain names (from encrypted DNS and ECH), and they also can't see the actual data exchanged or the content (from HTTPS). Using these technologies, you are basically completely safe from your ISP or any "hackers" trying to steal your sensitive or browsing data that you are exchanging with websites. They cannot see anything except the fact that there is encrypted traffic flowing from you and an ip address. If the ip address is tied to a specific website or service, they might infer what you’re accessing. However, this is less reliable when websites use shared hosting or Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) where many domains share the same IP.

      To get a little more advanced, ISPs can observe the amount of data being transferred, the timing of your activity, and the duration of your connections. And so they might infer general behavior (e.g., streaming, downloading, or browsing) based on these patterns, but not the specifics. Everything is encrypted. No one in between you and the website server can interfere or read the traffic.

      So why is the statement "Having your entire network behind a VPN technically gives you more privacy", incorrect? The simplified traffic flow is like this.

      Without VPN: Device → ISP → Destination Website
      With VPN: Device → ISP → VPN Server → Destination Website

      With VPN software on your device, it will first encrypt the traffic on device and it gets sent to the VPN server (via your ISP). The VPN server decrypts that vpn encryption, then sends the original traffic onto the destination website. This is where the "millitary grade encryption" comes from that most VPN like to boast about. The encryption is standard and nothing special, usually AES-256. HTTPS uses AES-128.

      Having read the previous explanations you might be thinking, isn't the information already encrypted from HTTPS? Yes. Your ISP originally could see the HTTPS encrypted traffic being sent to the destination ip. Now with a VPN, it is seeing the vpn encrypted traffic, being sent to the destination ip (which is the vpn servers).

      When people say "use a VPN for privacy", they're essentially saying "trust this third-party company with your network traffic instead of your ISP". But there's no inherent privacy advantage - you're just shifting trust from one entity to another.

      VPN providers have the same economic incentives as ISPs:
      - They can log your traffic
      - They can sell your browsing data
      - They can be compelled by legal requests to hand over information

      The trust model is fundamentally identical to your ISP. You're simply routing your traffic through a different intermediary who has the same potential to monitor and monetise your data. However using encrypted DNS and ECH will NOT protect your browsing traffic from the VPN provider, as it did with your ISP. The VPN provider can still see the domain names and destination ip addresses of every website you visit, whereas your ISP can only see the destination ip address.

      Using a VPN is only necessary in a few scenarios. When you want to hide the ip address of the websites you are visiting from your ISP, you want to hide your own ip address from the websites (like to circumvent ip bans or to hide your ip address when you are torrenting), you want to access geoblocked content (because the netflix servers will now see that the visiting IP address is from that vpn server in that country instead of aus), or you want to circumvent the great firewall.

      Now regarding "better than having your ISP knowing all devices that you have". If you are using your own router and ipv4 on it, there is no way for the ISP to see how many devices you have. I'm actually not sure about this part, correct me if I'm wrong, but if you are using the ISP supplied one, and they have a way of accessing it or your local network directly, then they can view the mac addresses of your devices and thus what types of devices they are. But generally there is no need to worry about this.

      Evidently accessing geoblocked content has not worked for you @Clarky77 because netflix can see that multiple accounts are visiting from this one IP address and deduce it's a VPN server and therefore block it.

      So to answer your question "Can someone in layman’s terms tell me why I should get a VPN and use it for all my internet traffic". No you shouldn't get a VPN. Don't be fooled by their advertising. However what you SHOULD do is use an encrypted DNS provider from Cloudflare, Mullvard, Quad9, etc in your browser, but better yet set it in your entire device if you can. And ensure your browser supports ECH by using that link from before.

      You can search up guides for these. "How to change windows dns server, how to change browser dns server, how to change apple/android phone dns server, what is the cloudflare dns server address, what is ipv4 or ipv6 in windows dns settings, etc" You can also set it on your router but that's a little hard for most people.

      I hope this helped at least someone. Let me know if it did and my time was worth it :) It's quite sad seeing so many people fall for VPN advertising in every single ozbargain post and the general lack of awareness. So much money being wasted. It's a massive industry because it's so extremely easy to buy and spin up a vpn server then sell the bandwidth in the pretence that you are protecting your privacy or whatever.

      • Clarky77 on 16/12/2024 - 21:42

        Thanks, very useful info.
        I literally activated NBN with an eero6 router I purchased recently and I can see in the settings an option for customised DNS settings so I’ll look into it and if I think I can understand it enough I’ll look into adding it to the router which will cover me for home and then I’ll have to see about my iPhone.
        How much do these things cost to subscribe to roughly? or is it purely a software thing that doesn’t require everything be directed through a special server somewhere? As I said I’m not really that concerned about hiding what I’m doing but I do like the idea of extra privacy & if I do decide I wanna torrent something in future I don’t want my isp or the government contacting me to justify my private internet activity!
        Appreciate you taking the time to provide a detailed answer, thanks :)

        • Undercut 2241 on 16/12/2024 - 21:53

          No worries, happy to help.

          The good encrypted DNS servers like Cloudflare, Mullvad, Quad9 are free to use. I'd say do your own research though, commentors like me may have biased opinions as to which ones are the best DNS server providers.

          https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/setup/
          https://mullvad.net/en/help/dns-over-https-and-dns-over-tls

          Changing to a third-party encrypted DNS server from your default ISP provided DNS server will not protect your ip address when you are torrenting though. You'd have to read up on what a DNS server does. What @this is us said before is good though.

          "but honestly… if you are trying to circunvent the blocks anyway, Stremio (Torrentio + Real Debrid) is the way to go these days"

          This is a better (convenient, faster, more private) form of piracy than torrenting as long as it's configured properly. You'd have to research what they are and how to use them.

      • Mary Poppins on 17/12/2024 - 15:08
        +1

        Thanks @Undercut 2241 for the thorough explanation… you learn something new everyday! 😉

      • Ice009 on 18/12/2024 - 08:11
        +1

        I tried reading all that, and not sure if I understand it all correctly. Thanks for posting it, though. Absolutely awesome post. You hooked me in by saying that people should read it if they can.

        I mostly use my VPN to access geo-restricted streaming sites (both ones I have a paid for a sub, and some free ones that require an IP address from whatever country/locale that it's intended for), so that is the main reason I have it. It's about to expire in a month or so, hence why I am here looking for another deal on one. it seems to be costly reupping with the same one, but the if switching to another one such as Nord, I won't know if those servers in the countries I want to access will work with my current streaming services.

        Having said all that, going back to your post, I also thought the VPN encrypts the traffic and that the RSP/ISP couldn't see it. I also thought the VPN doesn't see the traffic either as I thought it's encrypted going through both the ISP and VPN servers.

        Also, don't know when it was (maybe two or three years ago), I have an Asus Router and they have preconfigured DNS options you can choose (they didn't have these when I first bought the Router, seems it's something Asus added later), and from reading the descriptions, that is what made me choose which one to use. I've been using one of the Quad9 ones (there's two Quad9 ones, not sure what the main differences are between the two). Do you happen to have an Asus Router or used one recently to know what I am referring to? When you do into the DNS sub section under WAN to manually enter a DNS, you can either enter your own ones, or choose from a bunch of presets. Pretty cool addition now that I think about it.

        I think I also used Cloudflare for a little while before this and maybe the Google one for an even shorter time. I was previously using the RSP DNS servers for years beforehand. I'd say the last 4 or 5 years, I started with Google for a short while, then Cloudflare and then to Quad9. I'll have to also look into the Mullvad ones as I've never used those.

        So with the DNS servers, were ones like Couldflare, Quad9 etc. not encrypting the data until recently (a few years ago), or were they always doing that? Is it just the web browsers lately that have made it more secure?

        Also, when using a VPN via an app such as Desktop (Windows app), Web browser extension, Android etc., will this bypass the DNS servers you have set in your Router and the VPN use it's own DNS servers?

        What about a configurable Smart DNS type of service such as ControlD that I've seen come about the past couple of years. That seems like it might be a good option over a VPN? What are you thoughts on that?

        • Clarky77 on 18/12/2024 - 16:38

          Can I ask which VPN service you are using currently? Netflix seems to regularly get the rights to shows but they aren’t available here, it was mainly for that reason and HBO Max that I was initially interested but even trying recommended VPNs it wouldn’t work for me or if it did it wouldn’t continue to work after a couple of days?
          Tx so much

        • Undercut 2241 on 18/12/2024 - 20:10

          @Ice009 Thanks for reading! Happy to help! To address your points:

          but the if switching to another one such as Nord, I won't know if those servers in the countries I want to access will work with my current streaming services.

          Easy solution, I suggest you take advantage of their refunds and trial periods. For example nord vpn has a 30 day refund period. I'd suggest buying a cheap subscription from nord, trying it out, if it works then refund it and then you can commit to this ozbargain deal. I'm pretty sure most large vpns offer trial periods. I'd suggest looking through the torrentfreak article on the vpn responses that @this is us sent way near the top and picking from there based on their responses. TorrentFreak is quite trusted and I endorse them.

          I also thought the VPN doesn't see the traffic either as I thought it's encrypted going through both the ISP and VPN servers.

          I'm glad you bought this up. This is a very common misconception that people get from being tricked by their advertising.

          Yes the VPN software applies their encryption to the traffic from your device so the ISP can't read it. This also means the destination server/website can't read it either! When the traffic arrives at the vpn servers, they decrypt it so they can forward that data to the destination server. Websites can't accept the vpn encrypted traffic. They can't read it because it's encrypted! Neither can the ISP which is why people seek their encryption in the first place as they are mislead to think it gives extra privacy. However the data must be decrypted in order for the data to actually be read and understood by the destination server. This means the VPN server can see whatever data you are sending and receiving because they have to decrypt it. However, around 93% of the top million websites use HTTPS. This is a global standard internet encryption protocol. This means if the website you are exchanging data with (like netflix or google) uses HTTPS, the data the VPN servers see is HTTPS encrypted data, so they can't read the data either! They just apply their own vpn encryption on top of the HTTPS traffic when sending it between your device and their servers. This is why one of my main points from before was that most people don't need a vpn for "privacy/protection from hackers/security", HTTPS already protects them in the first place! You did say your main use case was for bypassing geoblocks though which is quite valid.

          As mentioned before, they can however see and track the domain names and destination ip addresses of every website you visit, even with HTTPS. Just to quote myself "However using encrypted DNS and ECH will NOT protect your browsing traffic from the VPN provider, as it did with your ISP. The VPN provider can still see the domain names and destination ip addresses of every website you visit, whereas your ISP can only see the destination ip address."

          there's two Quad9 ones, not sure what the main differences are between the two

          I'm not sure if you are referring to two options asus provides to you or the two options that are shown on the quad9 website. For the website, there's ipv4 and ipv6 dns server addresses. For each version there are two provided addresses. These are the primary and secondary options. The second address is just the backup version which there should be an option to put in, in whatever device you choose to change dns servers. If you are saying there are two quad9 versions in the asus router, I'm not sure what the difference would be. That's okay though, you can test the options by picking each one of them and running a dns test from sites like this or this. If the dns server locations aren't close to you, this most likely means you aren't using your ISP provided dns servers which would be close to you and thus the dns change worked.

          I started with Google for a short while, then Cloudflare and then to Quad9. I'll have to also look into the Mullvad ones as I've never used those.

          That's nice, I'm glad you have been aware of the option to change dns servers for a while. It's good you switched off google, I would never recommend anyone using their dns servers. The whole point of changing dns server from your ISP provided one to a third party one is that you would trust the third party one more to encrypt the connection and to not track or spy on you. Google would obviously track and log everything being the advertising and data behemoths they are. The Mullvad dns server is run by Mullvad which is a well established vpn company. I won't comment on whether they're good or bad that's up to you to research but they are well establised.

          were ones like Couldflare, Quad9 etc. not encrypting the data until recently (a few years ago), or were they always doing that? Is it just the web browsers lately that have made it more secure?

          Yep they were always encrypted. The change I was talking about (encrypted client hello - ECH) was an additional privacy upgrade introduced in the last few years which is not related to dns servers. This is where the initial handshakes you make with a website are also now encrypted. These initial handshakes you make with a website could still be read and spied on by your ISP which they can't anymore as long as your browser supports ECH. Using an encrypted DNS, a browser that supports ECH and traffic that uses HTTPS will ensure complete protection from your ISP that they can't see anything. All they can see is the destination ip address which they are sending the traffic to. And as mentioned previously, the ip addresses could be associated with websites but it's a lot more difficult and not guaranteed as many services can share the same ip address.

          when using a VPN via an app such as Desktop (Windows app), Web browser extension, Android etc., will this bypass the DNS servers you have set in your Router and the VPN use it's own DNS servers?

          Yes. Unless you change some settings in the vpn, it will default to using their dns servers. This will override/bypass the dns servers set on the router. Dns server set in windows will override the ones set in the router. Dns servers set in the browser (using DoH or DoT) will override the ones set in windows.

          What about a configurable Smart DNS type of service such as ControlD that I've seen come about the past couple of years. That seems like it might be a good option over a VPN?

          I am researching this right now. I've actually never considered smart DNS' for evading geoblocking. I don't know too much about them to give an informed opinion on it. It seems like they would be an excellent choice over vpns if you want to evade geoblocks. Doesn't hurt to test it out! Let me know if you get any progress with these I'm quite curious.

          • parad0x on 19/12/2024 - 20:02
            -1

            @Undercut 2241:

            I am researching this right now
            Oh please do, because every letter this troglodyte has typed is nothing but opinion, and 90% or more or it completely incorrect, wrong or at best misleading.

            There's a bunch of obvious reasons why he/she might actually believe they're speaking the truth. They might even think they're doing it in your best interests but likely it's someone lacking interpersonal skills IRL and as such, has been able to identify that particular behaviour leads people to respond in a particular manner, a positive one, and at them.
            Usually that comes alongside an extremely extraordinary intellectual talent… The same area of the brain is responsible for learning, awareness & emotions and I imagine that it is even rarer to only affect one function than most/all.
            So that leaves best guess is its not genetics, it's psychological. But in the short he's using you for his own pleasure, and just as unaware of it as the stories he's told since the start - It's more important that you, and anyone else who reads what appears to trainload of fact, thatl train is nothing more than an incorrect nuclear disaster zone.

            Infact for anyone who is reading this, anything you find whilst in search of answers on the internet should be treated with the skepticism of a healthy assessment on the level of trust you can have in what you're reading. This is the principle that the internet constructs themselves are built upon, that allow it to operate "organically" without any single controller, owner or operator.

            It's actually really integral to the past present and, and after seeing what I've seen in my careern I'm not going to say future, so let's say the immediate future. Integral that in addition to just written documentation & internet function or some business success stories, it's fundamental to humans continued existence - with a digital existence - that we are still able to establish and evaluate trust and navigate maintain awareness (in a digital environment, something biology has not had time to adjust to, that same one that likely afflicts the OP). Anyway far too OT there, sorry.

            A great example of digital trust and the inherent awareness is a little thing called eBay (Almost everything considered a pioneer of Web 2.is an example of this, because it was a key challenge to navigate). eBay did something unique, decades ago that is paying more reward the bigger they get - It's reviews system is what keeps most of the issues of trust inherent in peer to peer commerce on the internet. This and over 20years of rigid channelling it to the pillar of its operations. This has generated a level of reliance for the business itself that it is inherently self policing that allows them to focus on serving users and merchants not chasing bad listing's. To eBay's customer support is 2nd to none for a website that facilitates so much e-commerce. This gives it's time general trust that makes it a household name. That doesn't mean you can be completely blind, but the tools to quickly and easily establish peer to peer trust are intrinsic. Likewise, they don't mess around when breaches of their ethos, let alone the terms of service are encountered.

            Given that information is the item being transacted, I have to mention what's considered as the definition of trusted information in the digital world thus far - Wikipedia. For a website that allows anyone to make changes, it is insanely good at remaining an opinion neutral arcive of factual information. If something is stated as fact without a credible reference link, it is removed. You actually can't create content beyond correction of punctuation and such without listing a reference which validates it. I was educated in school in the the same manner when writing an opinion paper and you draw upon external sources to help substantiate your opinion, you hat to provide a reference. It really is the basis of any documentation - if there isn't a page of references, it's opinion. Only a troglodyte would argue otherwise, and that argument whatever it is,, is worthless unless it contains a reference.
            References are also vital to legal decision making, where you'll most often know it as a 'precedent' unless you make a habit of reading legal transcripts.
            Lastly, on the topic of boring facts - any compiled documentation. That is to say any scientific, medical, or legal documents created by an individual who has more data, more facts, will and must be critically referenced and will be subject to heavy scrutiny (and passing) before becoming a piece of the written record on any given topicpart.

            TLDR;
            Don't ask questions on a bargains website forum about VPN. Your source is not likely to be qualified to answer, as shown.

            Initially I was stunned at how someone could have such a vast opinion on something that is completely factually incorrect. The counter-intuitive nature led me to likely a brain imbalance especially given the nature of the extended behaviour pattern shown. servation of where that information from.

            But anyone who knows no better on either front, is likely to believe everything he said because it's incredibly well written misinformation. Which is quite hard to do in the level of complexity shown. It's the kind of brainwashing behaviour seen in cult followers. The only difference being that a master manipulator is the catalyst not a neurological disorder!

            Regardless, the internet is abound with everyone who's got an opinion. When the question relates to something which deals with facts you need to try and navigate the beliefs & opinions and find the facts. I got so lost in the extensiveness of misinformation that I it would take me an hour in person to retell the truth so chose to address the misinformation and hope that someone else can l answer the question. The problem was bigger than an incorrect answer, it was an expression of belief regarding facts that would misguide anyone who read it.

            OP I'm happy for you to DM me with technical questions, and just as happy to be true to my word and backup everything I tell you with verifiable sources. I'm many things but hippocrit is not one

            • Undercut 2241 on 20/12/2024 - 20:28

              @parad0x: you might be the most correct person on earth but if you are unable to communicate your knowledge in a remotely civil manner nobody will be persuaded. Exploding into a tangent will not get anyone to agree with you no matter how factual you are. This is why your replies consistently get negs yet you still continue to argue and attack people in the same abrasive tone. Do you honestly expect people to suddenly agree with you or admire your insights after being insulted? All you’ve accomplished is spreading negativity and making yourself look bad.

              If your goal was to combat misinformation, attacking my character does nothing to help. It might make people pause for a moment, but without providing actual corrections, you’ve given them nothing to work with.

              Everything I said was to the best of my knowledge. According to you everything is incorrect, so I’d genuinely like to learn what’s wrong. Ensuring everyone benefits from accurate information was my goal from my first comment on this post. I understand you invited OP to educate them however I'd like you to extend that invitation to me as well. I'm sure after 30 years in network security you'd have learnt how to engage with people in a civil and constructive manner. I'd appreciate a sensible reply that's attacks my comments and not my character. Thank you.

      • parad0x on 19/12/2024 - 20:19

        How is it you've such extensive knowledge that is entirely incorrect?

        Starting from the fact that my ISP would only ever see a DNS query from a device with a built-in static DNS source override that I didn't know about…. (Chromecast are a good example of using Google's DNS regardless of DHCP assignment, but I know this and their traffic is routed to 0.0.0.0 at which point they consider it unreasonable and try the assigned DNS before complaining about internet connectivity). Everything IoT is on a VLAN that couldn't get to the gateway if they had to. If they did, the gateway denies it on a Layer2 through 8 level - and I've yet to see layer 1 perform a physics miracle and jump from optical to copper and back as an exploit.
        I don't have the time to document everything from that point onwards.

        My advice to anyone who is here looking for something resembling the truth is get off the bargain website. Everyone can give you an opinion and the chances of finding someone with the knowledge and time whilst browsing for bargains is a recipe for misinformation.

        Source: over 30 years of working in network security, and observing people sling opinions like gospel no matter where you go. If you can't answer it from a verifiable source by yourself, everything else is an opinion. Besides, Markup is far from the friendliest language to be producing a properly written document ready for peer review.

        • parad0x on 19/12/2024 - 20:44

          Honestly I missed a post cut, you're the expert who needs to stop talking rubbish as if you know something. Did cloudflare tell you everything you know because you sure like to talk about them… I'd like to know how the internet worked for so long without them seems impossible in your life.

          If it had united America or States in its country name they already know you. Personally I can get 90%of everything I need to without ever entering the country and being subject to their surveillance

    • Dyl on 20/12/2024 - 02:16

      They block datacentre IPs, not VPNs themselves.

      VPNs usually use datacentre IPs, you'd need a residential proxy or similar to get around it.

      Alternatively there's DNS methods which are cheaper than that

  • SydBoy on 16/12/2024 - 16:03
    +1

    Why can't we simply use opera browser free VPN ? Wouldn't that be same as paid one ?

    • McOzbargainer on 16/12/2024 - 16:06
      +3

      If you need to ask, you don't need one.

  • internet-stranger on 16/12/2024 - 16:07

    Only Perth servers in Australia? Weird.
    Cashback tracked in 15 mins for me. I paid a bit more than the tracked amount because I forgot to use international fee free card (I know….).

    • sween64 on 16/12/2024 - 16:44
      +1

      Nope, there's Perth, Adeliade, Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane avail in the iOS app.

    • jdawgydawggy on 16/12/2024 - 16:44

      Me too, but I figured $7 for 2 years I can deal with

    • someone else on 16/12/2024 - 16:46
      +1

      What kind of server are you talking about? Nord has servers in 5 cities in Australia:
      https://nordvpn.com/servers/australia/
      Adelaide, Brisbane, Melbourne, Perth, Sydney

      • internet-stranger on 16/12/2024 - 17:38

        Hmm when I select wireguard I only see Perth.
        Just checked the iOS app and it doesn’t support wireguard.

        • parad0x on 19/12/2024 - 20:29

          You can't get to Perth via internet without entering the east coast mate. Perth is 8000km from nowhere

          • internet-stranger on 19/12/2024 - 20:43

            @parad0x: Triple checked. Only wireguard servers I can see are in Perth.

            • parad0x on 19/12/2024 - 20:50

              @internet-stranger: I'll have a legitimate look now for you, I was talking geographical/infrastructure tongue in cheek previously. I'm sure there's more than one telegraph link there

            • parad0x on 19/12/2024 - 21:10

              @internet-stranger: Seems I've expired. I thought I was good through next year. How are you "only seeing Perth"?
              Device? App?

              • internet-stranger on 19/12/2024 - 21:14

                @parad0x: So I have a GL.iNet device. So better speeds if using wireguard.
                Using Linux set up, select countries, Australia, only Perth is listed to download the config.

                • parad0x on 19/12/2024 - 22:00

                  @internet-stranger: So you're on a Linux client and you're trying to set it up?

                  Or you talking about the Lua interface on the GL's?

                  I'm either case id setup manually, you can get everything you need here

                  This isn't really a great platform for remote support and I'm staring at my cold dinner that I'm about to reheat.

                  From memory it's 10 lines or less and whilst I didn't confirm the locations or count them, but unless there's 20+ servers in Perth, they will be available for config download which is the difficult work. Whether Lua or *nix, you can follow any generic set up an OpenVPN client manually guide

                  • internet-stranger on 20/12/2024 - 09:43

                    @parad0x: Yes. OpenVPN there are heaps.
                    Wireguard there is only Perth. Go through the list, only Perth location provides a manual wireguard set up.

  • MagicTsukai on 16/12/2024 - 16:49

    Does nordvpn work in china?

    • me1stt on 16/12/2024 - 17:14
      +1

      No. Astrill and letsvpn should still work.

    • humperdoo on 16/12/2024 - 17:46
      -1

      Nope speaking from july 2024

    • CmfhlTtU on 16/12/2024 - 18:42

      Typically, if the provider didn't explicitly mention some private protocols to cope with DPI (or GFW), you can assume it won't work. Widely used protocols like wireguard or openvpn can be easily blocked.

    • crisso on 16/12/2024 - 19:50

      I bought Nord in May because we were going to China It didn't work but an app called Let's VPN was great and worked everywhere.

  • RogueWolf on 16/12/2024 - 16:51

    Anyone had ShopBack reject cashback on the plus plan in the past? Signed up plus plan fee weeks ago op says it’s excluded

    • Larsson on 16/12/2024 - 20:51

      Every post ever has something about plus plans not being included….

      • RogueWolf on 16/12/2024 - 22:01
        +1

        roll the dice, see what happens in feb, asked nord chat they think ill get the cashback, had them confirm i can get a refund if it gets rejected, im sure they wont make it easy

        from chat:

        ""If a transaction ID was generated, then everything will be ok. In case you weren't eligible or there were issues, no transaction ID would be generated"'

  • neoleo on 16/12/2024 - 17:41

    Use this VPN with certain servers to watch YouTube no ads, no premium account needed ;-)

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/880322

  • SAU on 16/12/2024 - 18:23
    +1

    Did you pick a tax free country or cashback includes tax too?

    • jdawgydawggy on 16/12/2024 - 19:34

      Cashback doesn't include tax

  • Nedkellyinthebush on 16/12/2024 - 18:23

    Mine expires in May should I just sign up another 2 years now?

  • Shane043 on 16/12/2024 - 18:48

    I literally signed up a few hours ago now I'm reading this. Currently in the 7 day trial period. Is there anything I could do to get this cashback deal?

    • denserham on 16/12/2024 - 18:55
      +1

      Cancel the first one sign up again with new email.

      • Shane043 on 17/12/2024 - 08:48

        That's simple enough..my concern though is can they i.d my name through my credit cards and Google pay..

        • denserham on 17/12/2024 - 09:13

          Don't need to use Google pay if you are worried, I never use PayPal for these kinds of things either for the same reason. If you use a different card you can type a different name because they don't cross check name on the card anyway if you are super paranoid.

  • timothy117 on 16/12/2024 - 18:54

    Can I use that to watch other countries Disney Plus?

  • Nedkellyinthebush on 16/12/2024 - 19:00
    +1

    My cashback was tracked after 10 minutes it shows $123.10 but I actually paid $118.67?

    • timothy117 on 16/12/2024 - 19:19

      they charged you GST as well, so you should paid somewhere around $130

      • Spizz on 16/12/2024 - 20:51

        He may have chosen a tax free country.

  • dandandan on 16/12/2024 - 19:29

    Mine hasn't tracked from 12.42am this morning, shows in my clock history.

    • bashar20 on 16/12/2024 - 21:46

      Mine tracked after 10 minutes.

  • chadave2020 on 16/12/2024 - 19:52

    Can you change country so you wont get charged of gst but still get a cashback?

    • bashar20 on 16/12/2024 - 21:46

      I used USA

  • bashar20 on 16/12/2024 - 21:45
    +1

    Purchased using PayPal linked to my NAB card with no international fees. Charged $118 and cash back tracked at $123. $5 profit.

    • Ryoon on 16/12/2024 - 22:05

      Have you set VPN as USA and acess to Shopback and joined or do you just register as US customer with Nord VPN?

      • bashar20 on 16/12/2024 - 23:26
        +1

        Just change country to tax free one.

  • Ryoon on 16/12/2024 - 22:18

    I want to know if choose USA, set under VPN USA as well? can it be no issue get cashback with Shopback?

  • LuckyDealer on 16/12/2024 - 22:20

    My 2-year plan got tracked successfully, thanks OP.

    • Ryoon on 16/12/2024 - 22:55

      Did you choose Australia and paid GST?

      • LuckyDealer on 17/12/2024 - 13:55

        Paid AUD130.54$ via Paypal
        Got tracked AUD123.10$ - ~7$ for a 2-year VPN subscription is worth it.
        Didn't get too much into the details of it tbh.

  • Ryoon on 16/12/2024 - 23:25

    i'm having some issue, it didn't go through all steps on shopback,
    last step is to download nordVPN app,

    When I click (from Shopback App), it says only purchase on NordVPN qualify cashback and I can't click the app to download.

    Has anyone experience this?

    • bashar20 on 16/12/2024 - 23:27

      Doesn’t affect cash back.

      • Ryoon on 16/12/2024 - 23:31

        I used Google pay and paid with my card, hopefully this will be applied, 30 days refund garuntee is there so I don't feel too nervous yet. Thank you

  • yuanfei on 16/12/2024 - 23:52

    picked 2 year plan, with a no international fee card, but still got 7 dollar less tracked (130 charged, only 123 tracked). not sure why.

    • Ryoon on 17/12/2024 - 00:41

      Gst.. its so tricky mine isnt tracked and will find out in 1 full day from now. I get charged $127

  • Waffles on 17/12/2024 - 08:08
    +2

    On one of the recent deals I followed all the usual steps but didn't get the cashback. (I've used shopback and others with no issues in the past) When I queried with shopback they wouldn't budge and weren't very helpful. They offer decent rates but what's the point if you don't get them.

    • denserham on 17/12/2024 - 09:23
      +1

      If there are two deals and cash rewards is a bit lower return than shop back I'll still go with cash rewards. Shopback are terrible to deal with and things go wrong more often than anybody else.

    • RogueWolf on 17/12/2024 - 10:38

      did you get any tracking after you purhased? if you didn't within 30days you should have cancelled for a full refund

      try talking to nord on live chat, ask why it was denied, ask if you can cancel & be refunded

      • Waffles on 17/12/2024 - 11:01
        +1

        I submitted an enquiry to shopback and they never got back to me. I chased up after a couple of months and they took another 2 weeks to reply.

        I doubt NordVPN care but I didn't consider cancelling with them. Even if I did they werent in the wrong.

        I'd also gotten a few hundred dollars back with shopback so I was a customer worth keeping but they didnt offer a cent, help me figure out what went wrong or do anything vaguely helpful. I'm out approx 200$ on the vpn cashback and I'll never use shopback again. Lesson learned for me but I'd hate to see other people get stuffed around

        • Ryoon on 17/12/2024 - 11:32

          Mine isn't tracked and will wait till tomorrow as it's due date to track according to shopback.
          I'm currently with Surfshark and due to finish on Jan 25,
          I've used Nord VPN to watch Netflix,
          initial setup was easy and clean, but Netflix was loading and loading but not working.

          I'm planning to cancel Nord VPN if it does not track on Shopback by tomorrow evening.
          If it does track, then I will re-attempt to watch netflix with Nord VPN setup and will attempt to watch and will make decision.

          Has anyone experienced both Surfshark and Nord VPN? what's Verdict?

        • RogueWolf on 17/12/2024 - 12:39

          i think the rejection comes from nords end, thats why talk to them, argue your case & see what they can do, but if you never got a tracking you should have cancelled within the 30days

  • Shane043 on 18/12/2024 - 13:59

    i seem to get alot of problems with google chrome dropping out with Nord. Any tips? was thinking of trying Mozilla.

    • Ryoon on 18/12/2024 - 15:58

      I usually use Surfshark which is ending end of December so I joined NordVPN, cashback is not tracking for last 40 hours, I attempted to watch Netflix with South Korea like how I usually do with surfshark, initialising faster than Surfshark then it only show loading of a drama without playing it. I'm going to cancel to refund shortly. I don't use VPN that often but occasionally useful, I may be able to live without.

  • Pestigious Sea 4339 on 18/12/2024 - 16:43

    My cashback was tracked

    Order date: Dec 17, 2024 09:29:28 AM UTC
    Cashback tracked 18 dec 2024, around 3:00 pm (Melbourne time)
    Cashback will be confirmed around Mar 2025

    Paid using ing debit card (no international fee)
    Debited amount: around A$118
    Cashback tracked A$122.96

    During checkout, for gst purposes i used USA, california and random postcode from google which cause gst to be $0.00

    It defaulted to australia which had 10% gst (around $8.80)

  • Ryoon on 18/12/2024 - 17:01

    oh have you used google pay to pay? I somehow get charged for $127 while I indicated I'm in USA,

    You saved me as I was nearly going to cancel, I will wait till tomorrow morning. I ordered 16 DEC, still not tracking,

  • ozbargain97 on 19/12/2024 - 09:28

    Hi guys, sorry to seem dumb but I just want to do some shopping on google/overseas stores, i'm not very good with tech. Will a VPN help me change destination countries and let me use google shopping on specific countries?

    Cheers.

  • pjd24 on 20/12/2024 - 07:58

    I paid $118 for 2 year plan and cashback is tracked at $120. It says payable after 14 weeks, so what are the chances, it is rejected after being tracked? I had used Revolut card to pay and had chosen a tax free country to avoid GST.

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