Why Are Tesla's Hated So Much?

dylanando on 17/11/2024 - 15:21
Last edited 19/11/2024 - 21:57 by 1 other user

Teslas often seem to be a magnet for frustration and anger, which I find quite strange. By now, most people know that Teslas have Sentry Mode, constantly recording their surroundings, yet they still get targeted. It’s odd that a car can provoke such strong emotions.

I’ll admit it—I own one, and the number of ‘snarky’ comments I get from random strangers is unreal. Just the other day at a car wash, an older guy came up to me and asked, “Won’t you get electrocuted washing that thing?” Seriously, I had to laugh.

But it does make me wonder—why are Teslas hated so much?

This was uploaded yesterday with a girl throwing a glass bottle at one in Moolooaba, QLD.
https://www.carexplore.com.au/tesla-targeted-woman-throws-gl…

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  • 563
    I hate Tesla because of Elon
  • 6
    I hate Tesla because im Old
  • 15
    I hate Tesla because its an EV
  • 431
    Tesla's are ok
  • 167
    I hate Tesla because their owners bang on about them non stop.
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Comments

  • GordonD on 17/11/2024 - 15:29
    +64

    Why Are Tesla's Hated So Much?

    Only by people who can't use apostrophes correctly.

    • dylanando on 17/11/2024 - 15:30
      +37

      I cant be perfect, i drive a tesl'a.

        • dylanando on 17/11/2024 - 16:07
          +14

          perhaps i put them their so youd' comment?

      • GordonD on 17/11/2024 - 15:44
        +29

        I referred in another thread to the phenomenon that people who buy Teslas appear to do it to get approval as indicated by the fact that they then have to start a thread here about it as an excuse to tell everyone else that they did. No-one who buys any other brand of car does that.

        And that's the answer to your question. Its not the Teslas that other people hate. Its the attitude of Tesla purchasers that they expect to be considered morally superior, and told they are by everyone, for having done so.

        You could afford a Tesla. Great. You made a sensible decision and bought one. Great. But the rest of us aren't interested.

      • freefall101 on 17/11/2024 - 16:27
        +8

        That's my favourite character from stargate!

    • MisterQ on 17/11/2024 - 21:37
      -7

      Looking at a new and was considering a Tesla - some concerns raised - apparently vehicle weight means they are heavy on tyre wear. The cost of Batteries means much higher insurance premiums.

      Going with a PHEV instead

      But them main reason for avoiding Tesla - Elon (aka Mrs Trump the fourth) is such a knob.

      • supersabroso on 17/11/2024 - 21:49

        Nothing to do with Elon, Teslas are just a rip off for people who have too much cash to splash around. You'll never recoup your fuel savings due to the high purchase price and insurance fees vs getting a conventional hybrid like the Haval H6 Ultra hybrid or even the BYD Sealion 6 PHEV.

        • stratbargain on 18/11/2024 - 13:14
          +13

          I’m on the market and compared the cost of a model y and a sealion 6 and the sealion over 8 years worked out more expensive after servicing and petrol costs. By about $9k.

        • Logical on 18/11/2024 - 22:52
          +1

          please find me another cheaper alternative that will do 0 to 100km/hr in 3.8sec? and I'll get it

          • abb on 19/11/2024 - 14:13
            +2

            @Logical: Hard to say if it's cheaper because you didn't quote a price.

            This is $47k and will do 0-100 in 3.7s

            https://www.mvagusta.com/au/en/product/brutale/1000-rs

            Or, for much better value, at only $28k we can do 3.2s

            https://suzukimotorcycles.com.au/range/road/hayabusa-gen-iii…

          • nutcase on 19/11/2024 - 19:42
            +4

            @Logical: MG4 XPower does 0-100 km/h in 3.8s, for “only” $54,990.

          • ameyas7 on 19/11/2024 - 22:19

            @Logical: On paper yes it sounds like a good selling point or stats to brag about but in practice do you really think it makes that big a difference in day to day commute? If you are driving primarily on motorways then those savings with initial pick up won't matter much. If you are driving in the city, then most likely you are going to stop in just about 2 - 2.5 seconds mark even with full throttle and with the assumption that no other vehicle is ahead on your car? So unless you are on race track, that number doesn't really matter much i guess.

        • basketcase86 on 26/11/2024 - 15:36

          Not if you novate lease one on a decent wage. $$

      • Mregmi on 18/11/2024 - 00:28
        +4

        He has only 13% ownership, other people who own the rest are maybe 'nice' people.

        • Miss B on 18/11/2024 - 23:39

          Maybe they should be the face of the company then.

        • Illyria on 20/11/2024 - 08:20
          -2

          They're not. They're the "greater fools" that you hear about when people talk about Ponzi schemes.

      • klaw81 on 18/11/2024 - 14:12
        +5

        apparently vehicle weight means they are heavy on tyre wear.

        FYI this only has a grain of truth. Vehicle weight is only a minor factor in tire wear.

        Driving style is the biggest factor by far. People who drive enthusiastically will invariably go through tires at a faster rate. People who buy their first EV suddenly find themselves with a lot of extra torque and instant throttle response, and this often to brings out the latent hoon in them. People who drive sensibly don't have issues with tire wear at all.

        The cost of Batteries means much higher insurance premiums

        My insurance was less than 10% higher than a hybrid Camry of similar value. But insurance is very different for everyone, and some insurance companies seem to have no interest in insuring EVs for whatever reason. You have to shop around for a good deal.

        Beware: PHEVs are a gateway drug to BEVs :-)

      • PerthectDeal on 19/11/2024 - 02:43
        +1

        Weight is a small factor. Mate has over 70k on Tesla Model 3 tyres and much more to go

      • claud0902 on 21/11/2024 - 15:53
        +1

        BYD Seal. Who would want a choppy fatty model-3 if they have a seal to choose from?

    • marcozmitch on 20/11/2024 - 09:13

      Look, I think this poll is not adequate enough: I "hate" (more dislike) Telsa's because they don't have the better battery technology.
      If they did, I would be quite happy.
      The EV car with the best battery technology is what I like. Followed by safety. (eg Blade battery technology or whatever the Israeli's are up to).
      I do think cars that are smaller in height, in the mirror are harder to see for taller vehicles and I think that in itself is a problem: this affects safety in the same way motorcycles are also harder to see on the road.

      • Fenyx on 28/11/2024 - 18:03

        If you're referring to BYD's Blade battery, Tesla does use them for some of their vehicles. The best battery will change depending on your goal. This is why RWD uses LFP batteries, but Performance uses NMC (it has to do with cost, discharge rate, charging rate, energy density and how that contributes to weight and volume). Tesla has used a lot of different batteries from a lot of different suppliers and has proven over the last decade to have very reliable technologies (and offer an 8 year warranty to back it up). The bigger issue with EVs has historically been getting enough batteries of any type to meet demand.

        Teslas are notoriously some of the safest cars in the world.
        Power-creeping vehicle size where manufacturers constantly one-up each other to have the "biggest and therefore safest" vehicle is why we have those giant, lifted American trucks (Ram, Chevy, etc. style).
        You're more likely to get in an accident in the first place. Bigger vehicles certainly aren't safer for pedestrians, especially short pedestrians (kids). They have more weight behind them, a higher centre of mass, headlights are higher and blind others. They're harder to stop, turn, tightly maneuver, park etc and they go over safety barriers more easily and speed bumps faster, defeating their purpose and causing governments to install more/bigger ones, spending money all the while. And it continues.
        The whole messaging about big vehicles being safer is problematic and more incorrect than correct as far as I can tell. Seemingly the main selling premise is based on others buying the vehicle. It's like there's nothing innately good about them, it's just "if someone else has one and you don't, you're in a bit more danger, so you should buy it too". Like the problem isn't that the other cars/bikes are too small to be seen, the problem is that bigger vehicles have bigger blind spots. It's an arms race and there's gotta be a limit eventually. Personally, I think we're past it when vehicles can't fit in normal parking spaces.

        Anyway, I think I've made my point, sorry for the rant.

      • CourtJesterau on 01/12/2024 - 07:40
        -1

        would you really want am Isralei battery in any device you own?

  • ihfree on 17/11/2024 - 15:31
    +22

    There's a lot of FUD spread by certain media - most recently that EVs will depreciate, environmental impact of mining for batteries, they catch fire more often than EVs(they don't), the battery will die, etc.

    As of more recent, it would a different group due to Musk and his views/general acting like a idiot on X.

    Real reason however, is the lack of an indicator stalk.

    • Brick Tamland on 18/11/2024 - 08:40
      +2

      Cars depreciate! It’s like everyone has forgotten this over covid and or believe Musk when he said his cars appreciate.

    • Daabido on 19/11/2024 - 00:41

      EVs catch fire more often than EVs?

      • ihfree on 19/11/2024 - 00:42
        +2

        Whoops typo

  • MS Paint on 17/11/2024 - 15:32
    +30

    Need poll option…

    I hate Tesla because their owners bang on about them non stop.

    • dylanando on 17/11/2024 - 15:34
      +2

      Fine, i added x

      • arkie0 on 17/11/2024 - 15:44
        +6

        Can you add

        I hate Tesla owners because they can't take a joke and think my comments are snarky.

        • Brick Tamland on 18/11/2024 - 08:43
          +2

          This is actually spot-on. Tesla owners take it so seriously. Any joke or criticism seems to be taken straight to heart like you just made fun of their puppy or child. It’s like siblings picking on each other, if you get a reaction you keep picking on them don’t you? It’s just so much fun picking on them because of the reaction. This poll discussion kinda makes it even greater because we are getting to them.

          • Charmoffensive on 18/11/2024 - 15:58
            +13

            @Brick Tamland: I'm not a Tesla driver/owner, but I do know a couple, so I'll give you their perspective on things:

            Any joke or criticism seems to be taken straight to heart like you just made fun of their puppy or child.

            It's probably more that they've heard the same tired jokes and sky news talking points fed to them over and over again by mouth breathers who think they're peak comedians. You're now getting the same visceral reaction from them that the checkout chick gives you when you say "SAvInGs? more like spendings hurhurhurrr". The only difference is they're not paid to grin and bear it.

            It’s like siblings picking on each other, if you get a reaction you keep picking on them don’t you?

            Yeah, if you're a child. Adults tend to mature out of bullying people for fun. There's a bit difference between sh&% talking amonst mates where everyone is having a laugh, but if someone is visibly not having any of it, you're a raging a$$hole if you double down on upsetting them for your own amusement.

            It’s just so much fun picking on them because of the reaction.

            See above.

            This poll discussion kinda makes it even greater because we are getting to them.

            This says much more about you than it does about them.

            • klaw81 on 18/11/2024 - 16:08
              +5

              @Charmoffensive:

              It's probably more that they've heard the same tired jokes and sky news talking points fed to them over and over again by mouth breathers who think they're peak comedians.

              Spot on. Couldn't say it better.

              This says much more about you than it does about them.

              It really does.

            • Brick Tamland on 18/11/2024 - 17:17
              -5

              @Charmoffensive: Life is hard being a sensitive flower.

              • Charmoffensive on 18/11/2024 - 17:30
                +1

                @Brick Tamland: I wonder how sensitive you're going to feel the day you realise the only people who can stand to be around you are other muppets who never grew up?

                • Brick Tamland on 18/11/2024 - 19:11
                  -1

                  @Charmoffensive: Haha. A bit of rivalry between car makes is an Aussie past time. Get a sense of humour.

                  • Charmoffensive on 18/11/2024 - 19:25
                    +1

                    @Brick Tamland: Dude, your recycled jokes aren't funny. Maybe you should've spent time finishing high school instead of learning how to banter with bogans.

                    • Brick Tamland on 18/11/2024 - 19:47

                      @Charmoffensive: I don’t classify people by their social status, unlike Tesla owners. Bogans aren’t lesser people because they don’t drive a Tesla.

                      • Charmoffensive on 18/11/2024 - 19:59

                        @Brick Tamland: Hard to take the moral high ground after you just admitted to literally bullying people for your own amusement.

                        • Brick Tamland on 18/11/2024 - 20:15
                          +1

                          @Charmoffensive: Next time someone makes a mean joke about your Tesla tell them you are feeling bullied. They probably don’t realise and actually like you which is why they are teasing.

                          • Charmoffensive on 18/11/2024 - 20:22

                            @Brick Tamland: Oh, you gave up on pretending to be morally outraged pretty quick, eh? Or did the bogan comment really upset a sensitive flower such as yourself?

                            Lol, you're not even a good troll. You should've doubled down on the classism angle and really milked it. Now you have to walk it back and refocus on the snowflake angle, but you can't after you just had a cry at being a bogan.

                            You'll get there one day, champ.

                            • Brick Tamland on 18/11/2024 - 20:24
                              +1

                              @Charmoffensive: Oh. I was trying to help you out. I am now more focused on your wellbeing.

                              • Charmoffensive on 18/11/2024 - 20:33
                                -1

                                @Brick Tamland: Mate, that's just sloppy trolling. You can't play the snowflake card after you had a major sook about being called a dumbdumb bogan. You should've stuck to the classism angle; elitism is way more fertile ground.

                                I've heard better bantz from my 12 year old nephew.

                                • Brick Tamland on 18/11/2024 - 20:37
                                  -1

                                  @Charmoffensive: Been schooled by the expert in trolling it seems. Maybe one day If I can improve and become more than a speck of dust on the shoes of a mighty Tesla god owner I could be worthy of a Tesla too? Til then I will have to keep buying my cars from the toilet store. My gosh the fearsome intellect of a Tesla owner is something to behold

                                  • Charmoffensive on 18/11/2024 - 21:08
                                    +1

                                    @Brick Tamland: Now you're getting it. Although bitter sarcasm doesn't really work either, as you spent too long pretending you're just having a light hearted piss take amongst mates and now you sound all butthurt, like the bogan comments really got to you.

                                    The problem with trolling is it's a numbers game. Once you've lost the edge, you gotta cut your losses and find an easier mark. That said, you went into a Tesla thread and are still getting schooled, so I don't hold out much hope. This should've been as easy as trolling a vegan thread. Shame.

                                    But seriously, teslas ain't even expensive and I still doubt you'd be able to afford one.

                                    • Brick Tamland on 18/11/2024 - 21:13
                                      +1

                                      @Charmoffensive: Schooled by a Tesla owner. How embarrassing. I’ve got the same sad look now that I see on Tesla drivers faces when I dust them at the traffic lights.

                                      • Charmoffensive on 18/11/2024 - 21:37

                                        @Brick Tamland: Much like in this thread, you're revving and making noise and trying to drag race people who don't even notice you exist and then calling it a victory when they take off normally. I'm not even a Tesla driver, but I'd be interested in what you're driving that can smoke a 0-100 in 3.1 seconds.

                                        You should've taken my advice and peaced out though, you're getting way too upset, mate. It's just jokes, no need for tears.

                                        • Brick Tamland on 18/11/2024 - 22:46
                                          +1

                                          @Charmoffensive: I’m not silly enough to take on a performance. Most Tesla drivers think they are driving rocket ships regardless. Engage the cold thrusters Spock!

                      • Daabido on 19/11/2024 - 00:47
                        +1

                        @Brick Tamland: You keep bogans out of your mouth. They are good, hardworking people - well at least one of those, maybe.

                        • Brick Tamland on 19/11/2024 - 07:24

                          @Daabido: Hahah. I know. I am defending them against the elitist Tesla class.

                    • arkie0 on 18/11/2024 - 23:40
                      +1

                      @Charmoffensive:

                      Maybe you should've spent time finishing high school

                      Are you sure you don't own a Tesla?

            • Stuj on 18/11/2024 - 19:50

              @Charmoffensive: Well said !! For the record i dont own a hybrid nor EV, just a fan of human decency

    • 87percent on 17/11/2024 - 16:46
      +10

      You don’t drive a car, you drive a Tesla

      • Mechz on 17/11/2024 - 19:52
        +13

        Exactly. Whitegoods aren't real cars.

        • Ginger1 on 17/11/2024 - 20:57

          Brutal but I actually agree

        • knk on 18/11/2024 - 11:48
          +3

          Should cars have ever been more than whitegoods?

        • klaw81 on 18/11/2024 - 18:07
          +1

          What exactly makes a Tesla "whitegoods" and other vehicles not?

          It is just that you like the noise and vibration that makes petrol cars more dramatic? Is it that you imagine they have a character or soul, because they sometimes do unpredictable things? Has your car somehow spoken to you? Do you pretend it has feelings, and talk to it?

          A car can be a symbol of coming of age, of freedom to go places, and perhaps even a symbol of rebellion, but you do realise this is all an illusion, right? Cars have always been machines and nothing more.

          And what do we normally call machines that don't work properly - the ones that require special treatment, coaxing and special attention to work properly? The ones that make strange noises at unexpected times, or simply stop working without explanation? We usually call them junk, trash, pieces of junk.

          A car that works perfectly every time, quickly and efficiently and cheaply, that does everything that all the other cars do but doesn't have weird quirks or make strange noises or bad smells - apparently that makes them "whitegoods" and somehow unworthy of the title of "car."

          Do you buy whitegoods because they're junk? Don't you deliberately choose a fridge or dishwasher that needs no intervention, that simply does its job exactly as you ask, without using a lot of energy or making a fuss? What more do you want?

          It's nothing short of a mental illness.

          • GooseHoward on 19/11/2024 - 15:07
            +4

            @klaw81: Because they're designed like a tech product rather than by an actual car company. Hold on to it for a few years then get the new model. Not to mention dumb design decisions - auto sensing wipers that don't work, avoiding lidar, massive touch screen and no buttons, I could go on

            Of course, a lot of car companies have been going in this direction, too, resulting in their products becoming more like appliances. But some to a lesser extent, and of course there are perfectly fine older cars one can buy.

            You're exaggerating about 'coaxing and special attention'. As if Teslas don't ever stop working without explanation. No shortage of horror stories about the service department. They're hardly leading the reliability charts.

            • klaw81 on 19/11/2024 - 16:08
              +2

              @GooseHoward:

              Because they're designed like a tech product rather than by an actual car company. Hold on to it for a few years then get the new model.

              The fact that Tesla aren't releasing new models on a regular cadence the way tech products do, and even their refreshes are way slower than the average car company, shows this is utter bunkum.

              Moreover, they're designed to be virtually maintenance free for many years, which does not align with the idea of disposable cars at all.

              Not to mention dumb design decisions - auto sensing wipers that don't work, avoiding lidar, massive touch screen and no buttons

              Yes, Tesla re-thought every aspect of car design and made some different design decisions because they were starting with a blank slate, with the intention of manufacturing every aspect themselves rather than relying on supplier's limitations or legacy designs.

              Some of these decisions have proven to be poor. I agree that the wiper sensors aren't nearly as good as they should be, and some of their systems are needlessly complex (eg air vents controlled by touchscreen).

              Some of their decisions have excellent - the software defined car has proven itself to be highly flexible, allowing OTA updates that are broad in scope and have been able to substantially improve efficiency, add user-requested functions and interface, and solve issues that would have otherwise required a service agent visit.

              Some decisions are somewhat controversial - personally, I absolutely love the screen-centric approach in almost every respect, and the simplicity and logic of the multi-function 4-way knob things on the steering wheel are as close to perfect as I've ever seen. The number of switches and buttons on the average new car's steering wheel is an absolute horror show IMO.

              However, if it were my decision, I would keep the indicator stalk (mine has this) and I would add 3 hardware knobs at the base of the screen for driver temp, passenger temp and fan speed. I don't tend to play with these much, but my wife is a fan of the (IMO excellent) Auto function for climate control. And I would add a HUD projector to put vehicle speed on the windscreen.

              The rest is pretty close to perfect IMO, and removing all the complex switches, buttons, dials and readouts is the right decision - it makes more room for practical considerations like large storage bins, phone chargers and give a clean, uncluttered aesthetic that's bang on.

              Of course, a lot of car companies have been going in this direction, too, resulting in their products becoming more like appliances.

              What's the distinction? What makes something more of an appliance than a car? Is there a line that must be crossed?

              In short, don't Tesla's vehicles perform all the functions that a normal car would perform? And not only that, but don't they actually excel in many of the areas considered important to car selection?

              I suspect that the whole "whitegoods" label is simply indicative of the dismissive attitude adopted by the kind of person who is so narrow-minded that they have to stack their ideas vertically.

              You're exaggerating about 'coaxing and special attention'.

              I will admit this is a little hyperbolic - it was mostly directed at the people who wax poetical about their classic cars and the phantom battery drain, the dash lights that only come on when you make a hard left turn, or the engine refusing to start from cold unless you mutter an incantation and hold your tongue just right, is excused as "character" rather than what it really is - a faulty, malfunctioning machine.

              Obviously very few modern cars have this issue - but many would say this means they are soul-less contraptions rather than "real cars."

              As if Teslas don't ever stop working without explanation.

              Sure, they're mass-produced machines like any other. Faulty manufacturing, errors in assembly etc are bound to happen. However, they're extremely reliable for the most part - which is made all the more remarkable when you consider they don't get regular maintenance like most vehicles do.

              From my perusal of Consumer Reports and other such publications, it seems that the vast majority complaints about modern Teslas are related to minor software issues with the infotainment system, rather than mechanical gripes.

              • GooseHoward on 20/11/2024 - 22:37

                @klaw81:

                The fact that Tesla aren't releasing new models on a regular cadence the way tech products do, and even their refreshes are way slower than the average car company, shows this is utter bunkum.

                You really think the old ones are gonna be worth anything in the future? They're not built to last. Resale in the toilet. Like the old mobile phones everyone has.

                The only reason their cadence sucks is because they focused on their ridiculous 'truck' which gets bricked by going through a car wash.

                Touchscreens in cars are a terrible idea and are inherently less safe as you can't operate them without looking away from the road.

                • klaw81 on 20/11/2024 - 23:30
                  +2

                  @GooseHoward:

                  You really think the old ones are gonna be worth anything in the future?

                  Sure, why not? Cars that can still reliably drive somebody to school, work and the shops are inherently valuable simply because they can perform those functions.

                  Cars that can do those things while having a low running cost are even more valuable.

                  They're not built to last.

                  Citation needed.

                  The Model S is holding up pretty well once they dealt with that motor issue in the earliest version. There are now several examples that have made it past 400,000 km without any major repairs.

                  The Model 3 is doing well having been on the market for 7 years now.

                  Resale in the toilet

                  This is simply a function of increasing competition and vastly improved economies of scale. If the new ones are sold cheaper, the old ones must be worth less. Simple maths.

                  Touchscreens in cars are a terrible idea and are inherently less safe as you can't operate them without looking away from the road.

                  That's a broad generalisation. I would agree with you if things like indicators or high beam headlights needed the touchscreen, but nobody does that.

                  There are tons of functions in a normal car that are difficult to do without looking, even if they have hardware controls. Clusters of similar buttons around a knob are really common on stereos and are pretty difficult to operate correctly. My old Lancer has a traction control button that's almost impossible to operate without looking because of its positioning and its beside other blank buttons that feel identical. Ditto for the seat heater switches, which are in a super awkward spot. Even operating the fan is annoying without looking because it has automatic functions included on the dial with the regular speed controls.

                  If the vital functions of a car have hardware controls, there is absolutely nothing wrong with putting everything else on a touchscreen where it's easily selected at a glance.

                  • GooseHoward on 21/11/2024 - 10:59

                    @klaw81: I remain unconvinced on most points but I appreciate your relative rationality and willingness to engage in earnest discussion. Had I more time I would address more of the arguments you've made; regrettably, I don't. I think the basic thrust of your argument about 'soul' has some merit; on this point, I think I'm somewhere in the middle.

                    In particular it seems we agree that at least some buttons are desirable for the more important and frequently-used functions. I do think that some Tesla design decisions are genuinely good ones, like weight distribution / 'drivetrain'.

                    I learned a few things, thanks.

  • CuteWittleCorgi on 17/11/2024 - 15:33
    +5

    Because they have cameras that record 24/7. Which for some reason people still forget. The number of private parts I’ve seen through my Teslas cameras in 30+ months of ownership is staggering.

    • dylanando on 17/11/2024 - 15:34

      Yeah, most are quite sickening haha

    • ihfree on 17/11/2024 - 15:36
      +1

      Body prints on the frunk as well?

    • freefall101 on 17/11/2024 - 16:28
      +25

      Your garage sounds like the place to be.

    • DoctorCalculon on 17/11/2024 - 21:25
      +6

      WTF! Are people peeing on your Tesla?

    • ThithLord on 18/11/2024 - 09:05
      +2

      mspaint or it didn't happen

      • MS Paint on 18/11/2024 - 09:25
        +2

        I can confirm I have not shown any of my private parts to Elon.

    • fredblogs on 18/11/2024 - 12:32
      +4

      Do you keep your car in the bathroom?

    • furyou on 18/11/2024 - 20:49
      +1

      whut? why are private parts shown to Teslas and why are Teslas marking clips with private parts for you to review?

    • EitherWayUp on 19/11/2024 - 10:27
      +1

      You parking on the sand at the beach?

  • FireRunner on 17/11/2024 - 15:33

    I read the title as Telstra

    • dylanando on 17/11/2024 - 15:34
      +14

      Ill make that post tomorrow lol

  • Euphemistic on 17/11/2024 - 15:45
    +8

    Its a mixture of reasons. Tesla fanbois who think its the best thing ever and have to tell everyone. A bit like the way vegans are stereotyped. They were premium vehicles. Bit like hating on Mercs or BMW. Anti EV crew who have been stirred up by years of misinformation. And fnally Elon has turned into a complete goose.

    • MS Paint on 17/11/2024 - 15:50
      +21

      Q. How do you know if someone drives a Tesla/is vegan/etc?

      A. Don't worry, they will tell you.

    • DashCam AKA Rolts on 17/11/2024 - 18:03
      +8

      For a full explanation just see the South Park episode about the Toyota Prius.

    • Mechz on 17/11/2024 - 19:56

      At least the BMW EVs look awesome.

      • Euphemistic on 17/11/2024 - 21:27
        +7

        For some maybe. Im not a fan.

        • Caped Baldy on 20/11/2024 - 08:21

          All new BMWs look like beavers to me. Not a fan either.

    • WT on 18/11/2024 - 07:59
      +7

      turned into? He has been a (profanity) wit since his paypal class action law suit days, probably well before that

      More currently, pump and dump crypto. e.g buying a fk ton of doge coin just before releasing that they will accept it as form of payment then dumping it when the price shot up just after it was announced, would have made millions. IDK how this isnt illegal

      guy has been a scammer and grifter for decades

      • lew380 on 18/11/2024 - 15:08
        -8

        Why are you mad? Dude is setting out a somewhat realistic path to mars, and he's the grifter? Your being petty about supposed crimes you saw on a tiktok.

      • genericozbargainer on 21/11/2024 - 11:54

        I did some reading on the Doge pump and dump accusation, couldn't find any evidence. Feel free to share something backing this up.

    • skidexa on 18/11/2024 - 18:40
      +1

      Funny because i hear more people complaining about vegans than i hear vegans talk about it. Even on vegan deals on this website, there are always negative comments like clockwork

  • someone else on 17/11/2024 - 15:50
    +18

    I don't hate Tesla. I think they were really important to expand the possibilities in terms of EV.
    I don't like the cars as they are too minimalistic and lack luxury but it's always good to have options, people that like Tesla and people that don't. I'm glad there are many other options these days.

    • Euphemistic on 17/11/2024 - 16:12
      +5

      I think they were really important to expand the possibilities in terms of EV.

      Absolutely they were. They've lost their edge though. The last few years have turned as self driving hasnt eventuated. People are deciding that buttons are better than touchscreens for lots of driving functions. Other manufacturers are catching up, and surpassing in some ways.

      • someone else on 17/11/2024 - 19:01
        +4

        Agree… I don't like the iPad like Interface for everything, the reason why I wouldn't buy Tesla myself.

      • twig on 20/11/2024 - 07:57

        People are deciding that buttons are better than touchscreens for lots of driving functions.

        100% this. Not just better but safer. I can't stand the touchscreen for basic things like adjusting volume and climate control

        Any car that doesn't have that is instantly off the list, regardless of insane CEO or not.

        • brayhouse on 21/11/2024 - 12:53
          +1

          100% agreed. You can’t convince me that going towards touchscreens was anything but a cost-cutting measure so the companies has less stuff to manufacture and maintain. Why bother with bespoke interiors for each model if you can put all the controls on the same touchscreen panel in all of them?

          With all the research around how dangerous they are, I’m glad to see that physical buttons seems to be having a bit of a comeback in lots of newer EVs.

          I saw a review of a model recently (sorry, I can’t remember the make or model) that actually had a dock under the touchscreen where you could attach a row of physical buttons as an option. So those who like the minimalist screen can have what they want, and those that want physical buttons can get some love too. And of course the car maker can charge them more for an optional item…

  • theHMASfriendship on 17/11/2024 - 15:51
    +4

    Can you add a poll option “I’m just here for the bargains”? 🙏

  • Hvrd on 17/11/2024 - 15:53
    -7

    Because he doesent play ball with the media / corporations

    • ihfree on 17/11/2024 - 15:59

      The Tesla's or the CEO of a corporation?

      • Hvrd on 17/11/2024 - 18:43
        -1

        CEO and the byproduct is the corporation

    • Euphemistic on 17/11/2024 - 16:13
      +3

      They havent matured. Theyre like that kid who has a girlfriend but shes from another school. All talk and substance is hard to come by.

    • TheBilly on 18/11/2024 - 10:17
      +10

      You do realise that he is effectively a department of defense contractor with top secret clearance. Most of his revenue comes from government contracts. If you truly think he is some kind of maverick anti establishment anti corporate hero. I have a bridge to sell you.

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