The MAD Bill - A NEW Mis and Dis Information Bill Nov 2024 - You Can Sign The Petition

While the US election was happening, the Australian government has pushed through, in the house of Representatives, the new MAD Bill - Mis and Dis information bill.

As far as I understand it, it will control and censor what we're allowed to say online, even more than now.

This website explains it better and if you scroll down you can sign the petition before it completely passes through and becomes law!

https://madmustgo.com.au/#writeletter

Comments

    • -1

      Oh please you lot have been sobbing about the sky falling for years; first covid was a depopulation mind control experiment, then the vaccine was was a government control experiment, then lockdown was never going to end, then the vaccines were all going to make us drop dead on October the 24th, 25th, 26th but not 2020, 2021, but not 2021, 2022, then the First Peoples were going to boot us all out if the Yes vote got up….and now the latest is the government is going to use this to censor everything and throw people into gulags….

      I don't think anyone here needs lecturing about bedwetting

      • No, the vast majority just didn’t want to be forced to take an experimental drug.
        It’s actually pretty simple aye?

  • +1

    So we are moving from SEO to what, Fact-Check Optimisation? AI truly would be the end of it all. Soon search engines would have an upvote and downvote button that let users censor and report 'inconvenient' information lol

  • -3

    I don't think this bill censors anything.

  • -2

    To give the government the power to suppress so-called misinformation or disinformation, and to punish those who refuse to conform, is to risk repeating the errors of history, such as the persecution of Giordano Bruno by the medieval Church for advocating ideas that challenged the prevailing orthodoxy. Just as the Church burned Bruno for suggesting revolutionary truths about the universe, empowering authorities today to decide what constitutes "truth" or "falsehood" risks stifling dissent, innovation, and progress. The suppression of controversial ideas often masquerades as protecting the public but can become a tool for enforcing conformity, silencing inconvenient truths, and undermining intellectual freedom.

    • Go away you spanner, and stop using AI, it's bloody obvious.

      • -2

        Oh, I am so scared of you, will you report me to your eSafty Boss? Please

  • +1

    Not sure if this solves the problem but in the past 10-15 years or so, facts have mattered little and opinions that go viral have somehow become accepted truths. The Lorenzo Van Matterhorn skid in HIMYM plays out in real life everywhere.

  • The major problem with this bill is that politicians decide what is true and what isn't true ! Facts don't matter.
    To put it in terms that most of the oz bargain left majority would understand, how would you feel if Pauline Hanson or Trump were deciding what is true and what isn't.
    You would be horrified !
    This is what this bill has the power to do.
    You may trust the current Australian leaders ( I don't) but you don't know who will be the future leaders.

    • This is false, politicians won't decide "what is true and what isn't true", it gives the ACMA (which is an independent body that regulates media in Australia) the power to make sure social media services have systems and measures in place to address mis/disinformation.
      The bill has a lot of problems but if your opposition to the bill is based on this fundamental misunderstanding of its purpose, you should reconsider it before spreading false information about the bill.

      • Giving the power to the bureaucrats is even worse, as they are not elected officials but career government workers, the only thing they will do is to try to figure out how to please their boss and advance their own interests. This bill must be opposed 100%, and vote the Labor out next year.

      • Government chooses who is on ACMA.

    • Rubbish.

      Amends the Broadcasting Services Act 1992 to: impose obligations on digital communications platform providers in relation to the dissemination of content on a digital communications platform that contains information that is reasonably verifiable as false, misleading or deceptive, and is reasonably likely to cause or contribute to serious harm of a specified type (misinformation and disinformation); expand the Australian Communications and Media Authority’s compliance and enforcement powers in relation to misinformation and disinformation; and make consequential amendments. Also makes consequential amendments to 3 other Acts; and amends the Broadcasting Services Act 1992 to make an amendment contingent on the commencement of the Administrative Review Tribunal Act 2024.

    • or Trump were deciding

      Protecting free speech is a core principle of Trump's platform…

      • +1

        Yes, and like the LNP, free speech is any speech that they agree with.

        • free speech is any speech that they agree with

          No, that's just not true.

          source: https://rncplatform.donaldjtrump.com/

          1. Republicans Will Dismantle Censorship & Protect Free Speech

          We will ban the Federal Government from colluding with anyone to censor Lawful Speech, defund institutions engaged in
          censorship, and hold accountable all bureaucrats involved with illegal censoring. We will protect Free Speech online.

          • @trapper: Is this like when Elon called the Cave diver a P3do ?
            That kind of free speech

      • I know that but most people on here don't . They believe he is a Nazi because they are brainwashed by MSM. Just watch this comment quickly be down voted to prove my point !

  • -1

    Alot of the misinformation is deliberate state sponsored content from Russia.

    They are in a Cyber war with us, and we just take it like bitches.

    • +2

      Alot of the misinformation is deliberate state sponsored content from our own government also.

      The Russian government is less of a threat, because unlike our own government, it can't censor us.

    • AnotherRedLight could you give us an example of that ? And don't mention the Russians colluding with Trump to influence an election because that was proven to be misinformation.

  • +1

    Nah, I'm all for stopping people spouting disinformation and misinformation

    • Sure, but each to their own to figure that out not the ministry of truth by the government

      • +1

        If elections and social media have taught us anything, they taught us that many, many people are extremely gullible and unable to discern fact from fiction.

        • +1

          many people are extremely gullible and unable to discern fact from fiction.

          and you want to put them in charge of deciding what we are allowed to say? No thanks.

          • -1

            @trapper: They aren't in charge. They are the ones who need the help.

            Education is the key to not being easily fooled.

            What's the use of misinformation and disinformation?

            • +1

              @imurgod:

              They aren't in charge. They are the ones who need the help.

              This perspective reflects a certain naivety.

              • @trapper: Ditto.

                You're afraid of fact checking, facts are facts.

                Would you be ok with teachers teaching kids that the earth is flat?

                No, you'd expect that they were taught fact, not fairytales.

  • +1

    Courtesy of one of Senator Gerard Rennick’s facebook posts is the following info:

    https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/em…
    on page 44

    “Clause 13—Meanings of misinformation and disinformation

    Clause 13 defines misinformation and disinformation for the purposes of Schedule 9.

    Subclause 13(1) provides that dissemination of content using a digital service is
    misinformation on the digital service if it meets all four of the following elements:

    • the content contains information that is reasonably verifiable as false, misleading or
    deceptive. ‘Information’ is intended to include opinions, claims, commentary and
    invective

    • the content is provided on the digital service to one or more end-users in Australia

    • the provision of the content on the digital service is reasonably likely to cause or
    contribute to serious harm (see subclause 13(3) and clause 14), and

    • the dissemination is not excluded dissemination (see clause 16).

    A couple of words above highlighted by Rennick are "opinions & commentary".
    This is who they are aligned with: on page 48: “The World Economic Forum’s 2024 Global Risks Report warns that ‘misinformation and disinformation may radically disrupt electoral processes in several economies over the next two years’. On page 49: “ The World Health Organisation has warned that ‘misinformation online has the potential to travel further, faster and sometimes deeper than the truth’.
    At least they are upfront about who they listen to for expert advice. Entities that are intimately tied with vested economic & corporate interests. It truly is an orwellian bill.

  • Slow news, China has been doing this for years

    • +2

      Curious… So we should just kick back, switch off, chug some beers and watch us turn into the supposed bad place? Bad because they have the law our leaders want?

  • +3

    1984 coming to Australia everyday. Didn't think I'd ever see "The ministry of truth" actually come true. I'm all for making 1984 fiction again.

  • The biggest flaw in this proposed legislation is government is not always correct, so when they say covid vaccines were safe, then years later come out and say that actually was not entirely correct, who should be held accountable?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enz7Pi-6XMc

    Does the government get in trouble? lol

    It is not always possible to definitively verify something as True of Fact either, since no single entity can always be 100% correct. Conspiracy theories sometimes end up being true also.

    Freedom of speech allows different views and perspectives to be heard, as finding truth is not always a simple matter. Should we believe everything one body tells us?

    NO.

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