Toyota Kluger 2015 Good Price? Need OzBargain Consensus

Purepwnage2 on 06/11/2024 - 22:42

I've come across a family friend wanting to sell there 2015 Toyota Kluger GX as they are upgrading.

They are willing to selling to me for $18,000 with 89k on the clock. One owner, full service history and they will complete the next service prior to selling to me.

Couple of questions.

  1. Anyone heard of reliability issues past 100k? I see a lot on car sales between 150-200,000 kms but is that cause they are passing on their issues

  2. From research it appears that 18k for 2015 Kluger is decent but hard to compare exact km and age. Any red flags on the price before I pull the trigger.

Hoping to get the next 5-8 years of usage out of this car. It'll be used primary on weekends and family outings as I use a provided work car for short trips to the shops during weekdays etc.

Cheers.

Automotive Car Toyota

Comments

  • Hybroid on 06/11/2024 - 22:56
    +4

    Do a pre-purchase inspection to get your answers.

    https://www.mynrma.com.au/cars-and-driving/car-servicing/mob…

    • Purepwnage2 on 06/11/2024 - 23:06

      Oh nice! Didn't know about this
      Thank you

      • coffeeinmyveins on 06/11/2024 - 23:27
        +1

        Not sure why anyone buying a car worth over $10k doesn't do this.

        you'll be surprised the dodgy stuff people do, and this will help you either (a) determine what that is so you can run away or (b) find issues that you can use to get a lower price on the car.

        • Purepwnage2 on 06/11/2024 - 23:44
          +3

          This will be my first second hand car so never really knew or looked into this before as I bought new.

          Seems like everyone should be doing this but if they didn't, we wouldn't be getting the entertainment we do on this forum 😂

          • brendanm on 07/11/2024 - 08:01
            +15

            @plmko: Declining getting it inspected looks like you have something to hide.

          • pegaxs on 07/11/2024 - 08:02
            +9

            @plmko: lol… yeah, ok champ.

            One of the biggest red flags a seller can wave is “you’re not inspecting my car at this price!”

            One day later another buyer paid a deposit on the spot

            I’ll pick “shit that never happened” for $500 thanks Alex…

            you could be setting yourself up to miss out on otherwise great cars.

            Nope, the moral of that story is “avoid sellers who won’t let you inspect their car, because the chance they are trying to hide something is almost certain. Walk away and find a better seller.”

            • MS Paint on 07/11/2024 - 08:14
              +3

              @pegaxs: plmko reads like a hewhoknows alt account.

          • coffeeinmyveins on 07/11/2024 - 08:28
            +8

            @plmko:

            I would never let anyone do an inspection on my cars at that price. In fact a few years back I declined on a buyer and they decided not to go ahead.

            considering there is literally no cost or risk to you, it's clear you knew something was not right with your vehicle.

            Not really, $18k is not expensive for a car

            a very small % of people can just dump $18k on a depreciating asset that will become a money pit

            you are paying for services that are incentivised to find issues that aren't really.

            Literally the opposite.

            Sounds like you sell lemons and don't want to get caught out.

          • 2esc on 07/11/2024 - 08:58
            +1

            @plmko: How does getting a mobile qualified inspection done at the potential buyers cost hurt the selller?

    • spackbace on 06/11/2024 - 23:50
      +8

      PPSR first, inspection second

      • djones145 on 07/11/2024 - 07:10
        +1

        ozbargain first then everything else after that!

  • MS Paint on 06/11/2024 - 23:29
    +14

    Cars slowly dieing after 100k kms is so 1980s. FFS.

    Factor in fuel consumption. These things are thirsty.

    Price seems pretty fair. Good mates rate. I assume it's the 2WD version??

    • sumyungguy on 06/11/2024 - 23:54
      +3

      I drove a rental from Sydney to Brisbane with minimal stops, averaged 11L/100km, thirsty
      Check out the earlier models on ReDriven

      • Mooshballs on 07/11/2024 - 08:58
        +1

        We had a 2016 AWD and sold it within a year as we were averaging 15L/100KM around town. Beautiful car but getting barely 400km from a tank was painful

    • Purepwnage2 on 07/11/2024 - 22:26

      Ah thanks for the insight.
      I'm starting to see a lot well over 100k so I guess that's good signs

      Yep mates rate lol

    • Dollar General on 07/11/2024 - 07:49
      +11

      But it’s a GWM

      • HamBoi69 on 07/11/2024 - 09:38

        Shocking build quality….

      • Purepwnage2 on 07/11/2024 - 22:28

        Yeah agree
        I looked at a used Kluger at a dealership to gauge pricing and he then took me over to the new cars at LDV and said to get one instead.

        I'm not familiar with LDV but I think I'll stick with the Kluger

    • JIMB0 on 07/11/2024 - 09:44

      Or you could by a 9 year old Toyota that is almost certain to run another 10+ years without any issues.

  • darshu on 07/11/2024 - 04:30
    +1

    These have 2GR FE engines, they are considered highly reliable. Kluger is a big vehicle with a big engine so this will have low fuel economy. But you will enjoy long-distance highway travel. You will not get keyless entry, leather seats and BSM in the entry-level GX version. I think you are getting a good deal, I found a 90K driven 2015 Kluger GX 2WD for $29,000 on car sales. Get a pre-purchase inspection from a mechanic or NRMA.

    • dirtybigbjelke on 07/11/2024 - 09:06

      I just googled these yesterday and many reports of cam phaser issues unless they were resolved by 2015? The seem also prone to sludging if only doing short trips.

      • darshu on 07/11/2024 - 09:08

        Did you mean the famous VVTI rattle?

        • dirtybigbjelke on 07/11/2024 - 15:42

          Yeah but I see below post 2010 it was fixed.

          • darshu on 07/11/2024 - 15:46

            @dirtybigbjelke: Yes, Toyota fixed this.
            I have this issue with my 2007 Corolla, which has a 1.8L 2zr-fe engine. I didn't bother changing the VVTI gear. It only happens in winter (cold weather), in summer or in hot climates, no noise. I googled but could not find the reason for this.

      • JIMB0 on 07/11/2024 - 09:46
        +1

        That was fixed around 2010 when they updated the engine.

        • Purepwnage2 on 07/11/2024 - 22:29

          Only issue I see now from reputable mechanics is oil leaks but the consensus was based off the highlander which is the US version of the Kluger so I'm assuming same car.
          I'll double check any oil leaks before buying

  • Euphemistic on 07/11/2024 - 05:39

    Why are they selling? Itll likely run forever, but will be thirsty. Are you sure you want to commit to a big thirsty V6?

    • Purepwnage2 on 07/11/2024 - 22:31

      Upgrading to a new model Toyota.

      I've thought about it but the price difference between this and something less thirsty might not be that much given the price I may be able to get this at.

      Also only weekends and long trips, I have a small hatch for work that I use for suburban driving to shops etc etc

  • Overclocked91 on 07/11/2024 - 07:29
    +1

    Good price and the space/drive is excellent. Check on WOVR. But there never really have any issues with Klugers. Only negative would be is they are a bit thirsty on fuel.

  • jam scone on 07/11/2024 - 07:49
    +1

    Looks like a fair price. I've got an older kxs and it drives nice. A little thirsty but not crazy. It does prefer higher level fuel, mid or high tier. Runs smoother and more responsive acceleration.

    Water pumps are common, I did mine a few months ago. Rear lower bushes, otherwise it's a well made car. Would prefer the petrol 2gr-fe over similar KMs diesels too.

    • Purepwnage2 on 07/11/2024 - 22:32

      Main things I've heard Is to double check no oil leaks on the 2014-19 models and the water pumps so good to hear the insight someone has told me seems to be correct.
      Not much to replace the water pump?

  • pegaxs on 07/11/2024 - 07:57
    +5

    Odometer seems pretty low for a Kluger of that age. There wouldn’t be many around at that distance. Seems awfully cheap as well considering the age and low km.

    Ask for service history and have a flip through the service records/book. If they have recently “lost it”, then I wouldn’t touch the car with a barge pole. If the whole service book looks like it was signed in the same pen and stamped with the same stamp on the same day, again, avoid it.

    100% get a pre-purchase inspection done. Get a PPSR done. Don’t pay for the car until you have seen it in person and have the keys in your hand.

    Don’t forget that if you do buy it, get them to write you out a receipt for the sale, as transfer of rego is NOT “proof of ownership”.

    Then, after you have done all that, don’t forget to sit down with your financial manager and see if they can get you a loan for the fuel repayments. You are going to feel like all you ever do is put fuel in this thing.

    • CurlCurl on 07/11/2024 - 08:59

      3.5 litre V6 petrol pushing over 2 tonne will be thirsty, but as it will used mainly on family outings perhaps on weekends, go for it.

      There are low K vehicles out there.18 months ago my grandson purchased a one elderly lady owned 2017 Lancer with with 28,000k on it.

      • MS Paint on 07/11/2024 - 09:07
        +6

        Lancer with with 28,000k

        28 million kilometers is nuts

        • CurlCurl on 07/11/2024 - 10:13

          28 million kilometers is nuts

          Yeah, it's only just run.

          • altomic on 07/11/2024 - 14:44
            +1

            @CurlCurl: only driven to church on sundays by a little old lady

            • MS Paint on 07/11/2024 - 15:13
              +1

              @altomic: They are the worst cars to buy. Rarely get up to full operating temperature. Rarely go over 2k rpm resulting in carbon build up. Engine components are designed to be driven and lubricated.

              • ReaperX22 on 07/11/2024 - 18:34

                @MS Paint: Owned a used lancer from 2014-2024. Was a 2008 Es auto cvt.

                Zero issues with reliability of engine or really anything majorly mechanical. Yes carbon build up was a problem here and there but not bad enough to say they're the 'worst to buy'. I drove it over 100k total (bought at 78, sold at 187). Perfect daily for a p plater or new driver tbh.

                Only the known issue with ABS module which I got repaired rather than replaced (saved 2k as a result).

                • MS Paint on 07/11/2024 - 18:57

                  @ReaperX22: I'm not bagging Lancers at all. They are great cars. I was bagging cars with ultra low mileage. Low mileage isn't all it's cracked up to be.

                  • ReaperX22 on 07/11/2024 - 19:29

                    @MS Paint: Ohhhh apologies. I misunderstood heh. All good! Get ya now! Yep agree. Low km is nice to a point, certainly!

            • CurlCurl on 07/11/2024 - 15:33
              +1

              @altomic:

              only driven to church on sundays by a little old lady

              And the club Friday and Saturday, plus Aldi on pension day.

  • Brick Tamland on 07/11/2024 - 09:26

    If it's in good nick with serving records it hard to go wrong at $18k. As others said its a bit thirsty but benefits outweigh the negative

  • JimB on 07/11/2024 - 11:57
    +1

    Thirsty but "It'll be used primary on weekends and family outings", doesn't look like it should be an issue for you.

    Assuming the family friend is trustworthy and has a service history, I'd buy it after a test drive to make sure it drives ok. Just make sure it hasn't been in a major accident, written off etc.

    For $18k, I wouldn't bother with a pre-purchase inspection but that's me. It's a 9yo Toyota not a 5yo Merc or BMW.

    • ReaperX22 on 07/11/2024 - 18:35

      I kinda agree. Pre purchase inspections make sense for all German cars and anything 'performance' that may have been thrashed or much older cars… A sub decade old Toyota? One owner? Nah I'd just negotiate best as possible and go for it after an initial in person inspection and maybe an online rego check etc.

    • sumyungguy on 07/11/2024 - 21:21
      +1

      DIY pre-purchase inspections? Fine for those who (1) can identify repaired accident damage and evaluate the severity; and (2) are interested enough in cars to do a little homework on the make/model they're buying. Buyers who don't meet these criteria should consider an independent assessment… or be willing to gamble the entire transaction value.

  • Yoo05 on 07/11/2024 - 21:03

    Decent price for the kms, I have a 2015 GXL with only 63K Kms, no issues whatsoever, only used on weekends and long trips, a bit thirsty but as said dont drive much.

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