Not a bad price for these combine with discounted eBay gift cards
Excludes NT, WA Remote.
Not a bad price for these combine with discounted eBay gift cards
Excludes NT, WA Remote.
I have felt the same about my 1080 for a very long time, it's definitely time for an upgrade, but when 90% of my already middling gaming time is spent on my steam deck it becomes very hard to justify!
Ha yeah! Apart from Space Marines 2, all my PC games are like pixel games, craft builders, etc that don't generally require too much oomph. Even SM2 ran fine with some DLSS at 2560x1440.
1080/Ti were goated though.
im having hte same issue. the 1060 is far more power to play osrs lol
@cerealsmok3r: Need a 4090ti to run osrs at max graphics
Weren't they ever. I paid roughly $550 for one back in 2016. A the time I thought that was stupid money but it was a reward out of my first paycheque at a job I worked very hard to get to.
I replaced the thermal paste in it a few years ago, but I can't believe that, 8 years later, I'm still using it without the immediate demand to upgrade. It'd be nice of course, but not 'post-crypto/AI demand prices' nice.
Also rocking a 3060 Ti. The temptation is real. Must… hodl…
Am hodling x.x
Yeah I'm also on a 3060 Ti @ 1440p 165Hz, and I think it's well worth hodling until Nvidia 50-series releases. Even if you don't upgrade to 50-series, there should be some really nice prices on higher tier 40-series. My feeling is the 4070 Super isn't quite a big enough jump (+66% over 3060 Ti) and I'll be eyeing something more like the 4070 Ti Super (+95%).
@aelix: 66% is a lot! Haha. Or are you more looking for double? I suppose that makes more sense. I went from a 1070 to 3060 Ti. Maybe I should just wait til 5000 series… There's also that pesky ps5 pro I kinda maybe want >.>
I'm on a 1060 and hodling, I'm sure you all can. I believe.
I'm still on 1060 but what are we hodling for? I'm just poorrr
@overlook: Better deals. And when those come, even better deals etc etc (actually also just poor)
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
Almost 60% faster at 1440p!
I upgraded from a 3060ti to this, but ultimately sold the 4070 super and kept the 3060ti.
For many games and tasks was a decent upgrade, felt like around 20% possibly 30% for higher resolutions, depends on the title.
Also depends on your 306ti, mine overclocked quite high,
4070 super wasn't really fast enough for native 4k, but arguably native 4k is a waste. DLSS may not be authentic but looks better and higher fps.
Why did I sell?
Second hand prices spiked, so I sold.
If I kept it, it would have been a noticeable enough upgrade, but for the $, only you can answer.
Drivers have improved so gains now will likely be higher than I experienced.
Wait for BF sale
5070….
6070s Ti xtreme….
In Feb/March, worth a shout for anyone already using an RTX card and considering still paying $500 USD for this in 2024.
worth the upgrade from a 3070?
29% increase in performance
The math says no
Wondering the same thing. I think a 4070 Ti would be a worthy upgrade, maybe not this.
I went from 3070 to 4080 Super and that was a moderate increase. I wouldn't be going less as the 3070 is still really good.
Thanks, I was tempted there for a moment to upgrade my 3070 that I bought back in 2020 to this, will HODL , lol.
HODL 😂
Not bad, 4070ti or 4090 be good for under $1k.
My MSI 2060S still going strong, was less than $500.
4090 under 1k, you’re gonna be waiting for quite a while…
4090 for under 1k? lol
Yeah not in a rush but ignore that haha, I've definitely seen the 4070Ti come in just under 1k.
Got my 4070TI for $1400 12 months ago. Resale going to be terrible
@motion2082: Maybe I was thinking of the 3070Ti :).
No doubt WILL BE, the question is how far away.
its hard to find a 3090 for under 1k still
"4090 be good for under $1k"
Jensen would burn his leather jacket collection before he lets that happen
Should I? Still rockin' a 1660ti and is still handling all the latest games with aplomb. Just mainly curious about all the hoopla 'bout dlss and ray tracing and wondrin' if these features are all cracked up to be. Mmmm….
massive upgrade, went from a 1070ti to this - like 4x the fps in most games. 4070 probs best value card rn. just make sure you wouldnt be cpu bottlenecked
Hmm is 11600 Intel good enough?
It depends… At like lower res u might be limited by that i5 and wont notice too much of an improvement in fps in cpu heavy games. Otherwise at 1440p and above, should get a good boost with the 4070 coming from gtx.
gonna hv to decide for urself if upgrading ur mobo and cpu is worth it to get a little more frames at 1080p.
If you're keen on raytracing, wait for 50 series, which will make full raytracing mainstream.
Well given you have a 1660ti you probably aren't fussed about playing with high resolution, high frame rate, or with settings turned up so ray tracing wouldn't be something you'd care about.
Not even ATL, I remember buying this exact one from this exact seller for 841 in June.
It's a god card, but I'd say HODL until Black Friday or wait for 5000 series.
That was a Plus deal, so this is ATL by $4, but otherwise your point is completely valid.
Oh I didn't see that. Not sure what kind of discounts people are running for the ebay gift cards but if you can get the total to around or even under $800, that's a very good deal for the 4070S.
I don't think the 5060/5070 are going to be any good nor economical + they're likely to be a year out until release and I have a feeling they will have higher power consumption to boot.
Is this a quiet card? Or about 'average', gets noisy etc in gaming.
@ReaperX22: It's a fairly quiet card, this is by far the cheapest 4070 S, the cooler is indicative of what you pay for compared to more expensive variants. Low power usage importantly, never went above 200W in heavy extended loads.
NVIDIA will be dealing with AMD and Intel - who have also delayed their launches - attacking them in the 5050/5060/5070 range from at worst late Q1.
All of them will be using slightly more power due to not being able to afford producing on TSMC 3nm just yet, but you've got the advent of AI chip and board design tools bringing massive advances as they push architectural designs (RTX series is rumoured to be about 50% better SM for SM).
Between that and ARM-based designs, this will be the most hotly-contested GPU generation ever, and AMD are rumoured to rollout RDNA 5 - a refreshed chiplet/MCM design - as soon as possible (likely H2 2026).
@jasswolf: Sounds true on paper but Nvidia effectively controls the market, something like 80%. 5000 series will be "good" cards no doubt, but in value wise - probably not. Nvidia's real competitor is allocating production capacity from their Enterprise sector. They're swimming in AI money so unless we see AMD actually properly compete with Nvidia in price, they will continue to cut die sizes, hamper VRAM capacity and increase margins on their higher end products.
@beniSpurdo: You're right about capacity for the moment, but this was already factored in - simply delayed due to a design issue - and the annual architectural cadence for enterprise means a shift to TSMC 3nm in 2025, likely H2 as phone SoC makers shift over to scaling up 2nm designs.
You've also got TSMC and Intel building new silicon fabs all over the world, which will substantially boost supply.
Putting aside how far behind game developers are in terms of utilising features that substantially reduce VRAM requirements for a given level of performance, GDDR7 already fixes the VRAM cost/benefit issue by providing the middle ground of 3GB chips, eg. 18GB on a 5070 with a 192-bit bus.
That will appear as an option for cards below the 5080 and perhaps in a refresh, but perhaps consumer designs will also move to an annual cadence via a unified MCM design.
RDNA 4 introduces something more equivalent to a tensor core, while Intel is slowly seeking to catch up on silcon process.
RTX series is rumoured to be about 50% better SM for SM
Do you have a source for this? That's a large jump. Most of the information I had seen about blackwell was focused on larger dies (at datacenter & 5090 level) and better low-precision support, neither of which are particularly relevant at the consumer/gaming level. Oh and the bandwidth/capacity implications of GDDR7.
But I'd be interested to know if there are rumours pointing this way.
@snep: 5080 rumours (aka full GB203) should cover everything you need to know, given it's supposedly 84 SM. Supposed to outperform the 4090.
Note that I wrote SM for SM, not clock for clock. GDDR7 is 40-50% faster depending on the speed, while I've seen reports of as much as 3GHz base clock. The rest of the work would be architectural, though I would still assume it's 50% for a specific kind of workload (likely path tracing).
My 970 has held this long, I'll keep waiting.
Here with you……but I get frame drops even on simple league of legends 😔
Probably your CPU or background apps if you're having trouble running that.
Surprisingly my CPU only hits 60% whilst GPU hits 30% so not sure …not optimised at all
Great price for the card, however do remember that the 4070ti super has 16gb instead of 12 (12 is plenty for now but 16 will future proof) and it's a $350 jump, which may be closer on black friday. I have been hunting an upgrade for my 3070ti since 8gb is starting to hold me back. I think shooting for the 4070ti super is worth it for me atleast.
I agree. I'll hold out for a 16GB during Black Friday.
Could go for a GRE, about same price point as 4070 super, but has worse raytracing and no DLSS
But more VRAM and slightly better raster perf, better yet if you OC
Oh yeah that's what I meant, OP was looking for 16GB VRAM. And yeah with overclocking GRE is a beast!
Seriously need to upgrade my 2080 !
Still holding out
I have a 2070 and I'm holding out! I'm after a 4070ti so I don't have to upgrade my psu. I won't wait for the 5000 series.
Holding out with a 2080 as well
Already bought one, stack with GC from Everyday Rewards You Pick for 3% further discount. One interesting thing is the invoice shows the purchase value at $1009 which is the price before the voucher, so is the GST amount. Thus, it would be even cheaper if you do TRS.
Tempting upgrade from my 2080!
Thanx OP! Got one for $837
this or the 4070 ti s for a 42 c4?
Not a very good 4k card imo. It can do 4k but it's not a 4k card that's for sure.
this one or the 4070ti s?
4070 super
reckon i should try find a decent used 3090? ive got a 850w gold power supply.
If you're going to spend a good amount of money, I'd get the 4070TI it has better RTX features/dlss etc Unless you're really lucky on a deal the 2nd hand prices I've found in Aus aren't that good anyway.
别了吧 等等新卡呗
Would this be a good upgrade from a GTX 1070?
Yes, massive.
Mannnn this is tempting from my 3060 Ti. 2560x1440 170hz is my res, and this would be perfect for that… Does my 3060 ti still play every game I need it to? Sure. Do I need this? No.
Buy now regret later? ….Maybe? :P