[SUBS] Deadpool & Wolverine - Streaming from 12 Nov 2024 @ Disney+

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Marvel Studios presents their most significant mistake to date – Deadpool & Wolverine. A listless Wade Wilson toils away in civilian life. His days as the morally flexible mercenary, Deadpool, behind him. When his home world faces an existential threat, Wade must reluctantly suit up again with an even more reluctantlier… reluctanter? Reluctantest? He must convince a reluctant Wolverine to… oh hell, just watch the movie. Synopses are stupid

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  • turtleCatcher on 31/10/2024 - 02:08
    +1

    Honestly, Disney should give free subscription to make me watch this epic disaster. Again.

      • dclee12 on 31/10/2024 - 07:12
        +14

        If you thought the 1st was just ok, and the 2nd one sucked, why would you import the 3rd one unseen?

      • Jake T on 31/10/2024 - 07:30

        Where was your OzB post when it dropped by $60? Let me know if you want to sell it on to get it off your shelves, sounds like I liked it more than you :p

      • s779881 on 31/10/2024 - 09:01
        +3

        Haha, you hated D1 and D2…. and review of D3 is you hated the Deadpool part of it?

        I just don't think Deadpool is for you my guy so unfortunatley i understand why you think it wasnt your wisest purchase.

        I had a different take, one where i enjoyed the film twice now.

        Honestly, it was a Deadpool film that felt like a Deadpool film and then some ( comedy wise) The plot wasnt that great (but Deadpool pluts are usually quite simple?) What i didnt expect, but also really enjoyed was that it did a great job of saying goodbye to the fox universe in such a loving and caring way , spoilers to go much further but it was clearly showing the void as a place that was taking or had taken all that remained of the fox universe.

        • hawktalk on 31/10/2024 - 09:32

          Actually I said DP1 was decent but DP2 sucked as I felt it went too far off the rails. I am a Deadpool comic reader and "media consumer" (the pc/xbox 360 game was cool).

          I can rattle off other "lesser" comic inspired films that I enjoyed more. Examples include: both the Dolph Lundgren and Thomas Jane Punisher movies, the 80s Captain America film. Hell even the David Hasselhoff Nick Fury tv movie was a more entertaining ride.

          Admittedly I am not much of a fan of Ryan Reynolds and his shtick. However if the role is good I can overlook my overall opinion of the actor playing the part (eg: I loathe and am an anti Chris Evans person, but liked his run as Captain America).

          And despite paying over $120 for the import I'm not cutting my losses. It's now just an expensive Wolverine steel case :P

          • s779881 on 31/10/2024 - 10:03

            @hawktalk: haha I missed the USD part, Damn! well at least its the best damn expensive wolverine steel case money can buy!

    • zombie hunter on 31/10/2024 - 07:21

      Yep agree Up there with lastest xxx one with van diesel

  • Furi8 on 31/10/2024 - 02:24
    +10

    Curiosity… where's the bargain??

    • BargainMe on 31/10/2024 - 07:59
      +2

      Shhhh you're not allowed to voice your opinion against this

  • gruffjaguar on 31/10/2024 - 04:22
    -5

    Unless your being paid to watch this movie then its not worth it. Absolutely horrendous film

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 31/10/2024 - 15:28
      +1

      Unless your being paid to watch this movie then its not worth it.

      better than a comment I read on one of my older deals, which was "I would not watch this even if you paid me". 😂

  • DavidH68 on 31/10/2024 - 06:34
    +3

    Almost the worst movie of the year , total waste of time and I was actually looking forward to seeing this but was extremely disappointed , glad I didn't go to the cinema to see this.

    • jay889344 on 31/10/2024 - 14:25
      +3

      I did, after so much hype online from those who had seen it that it was amazing and left being like 'well that was quintessential post Endgame Marvel - mediocre.'

    • AustriaBargain on 31/10/2024 - 21:14

      Hot men in tight suits killing each other, what more could you want from a movie.

  • SDF05 on 31/10/2024 - 06:40
    +21

    I feel like I'm out of the ordinary when I say I actually liked this movie. It was good to see chemistry with Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman, and the story wasn't too complex to understand if you followed the MCU films.

    Also, it pokes a lot of fun for the previous movie, especially pre-MCU Marvel movies that never went anywhere.

    Highly recommend a watch, one of the better films this year (not the best but it certainly deserves a watch).

    But can't justify paying a subscription to watch it, best to get it cheap when the DVDs/Blu-Ray goes on sale or go the ol' Arr mate round.

    • Jake T on 31/10/2024 - 07:29

      What DVD/Blu-Ray? insert Travolta searching empty shelves GIF

    • sickaunt on 31/10/2024 - 08:28
      +5

      You’re not out of the ordinary. It’s just that the “I’m cool cos I hate on Disney” crowd is loud af.

  • Tafe on 31/10/2024 - 06:53
    +1

    It was just an endless series of Marvel fan-boi/girl in-jokes. Which I thoroughly enjoyed. But can see why my partner hated it.

  • dclee12 on 31/10/2024 - 07:15

    Yeah i liked it, was a bit too long. but was funny and exactly what i expected.

  • DiscoJango on 31/10/2024 - 07:36
    +4

    I loved it, seen it twice now. Feel free to neg me for having my own opinion tho :)

  • sp1re on 31/10/2024 - 07:38
    -2

    Disney using chatgpt to write their scripts these days… fed all the other marvel movies into the AI library and it shat out this steaming pile of garbage

  • douevenozbargain on 31/10/2024 - 07:41
    +5

    Has been streaming on stremio for a while now

    • Benjamin7711 on 31/10/2024 - 09:26
      +5

      I've been so spoiled by Stremio since I discovered it 6 months ago. Whenever I see these for a future date for a movies I saw ages ago, I'm like "Oh yeah that's right…."

  • botchie on 31/10/2024 - 07:45
    -1

    this was only a bargain from high seas, mixed in with some 420 and you had a decent night off

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 31/10/2024 - 15:29

      mixed in with some 420
      😂

      nice username btw. bocchi from bocchi the rock means alone which you probably already knew.

  • Mondorock on 31/10/2024 - 07:51
    -1

    Superhero/MCU movies. lol

    • AngusD on 31/10/2024 - 09:26
      -1

      Wait, I'm confused, maybe because I dropped off Marvel a fair while ago so haven't seen any (except this Deadpool) for a couple of years. Is Sabra and/or Captain America going to be killing Palestinians? I have no idea where the current MCU story arc is at, but I find it hard to see how it could have worked its way around to getting into the Israeli - Palestinian conflict?

      As for the DOD stuff, that's a bit of a non-story. That's pretty much every movie that needs or wants co-operation from the DOD. And that list is long and varied, beyond your obvious kind of war movies, it includes stuff like the 1970s remake of King Kong, Karate Kid part 2, The Next Karate Kid, I Am Legend, Contact, The Silence of the Lambs and The Girls of Pleasure Island. And also Birth of a Nation, which probably wasn't their finest hour in hindsight.
      Ultimately, it's not really sensible or realistic to expect any organisation to provide support to a movie that would portray said organisation in an unflattering light, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything that receives assistance is some kind of rah rah USA USA USA propaganda piece, either.

      http://www.mediafire.com/file/7rp0qocxvevs0h8/DOD-Hollywood-…

    • freefall101 on 31/10/2024 - 10:36

      Did you read that last link? How does redditors discussing how silly the idea of it being propaganda is support your argument?

    • 1st-Amendment on 31/10/2024 - 16:27

      You case for propaganda is a couple of student opinion pieces and Reddit?

      I tried reading those pieces and gave up as it was amateur hour. You might want to apply the propaganda filter to your own material…

      • SYLTB on 31/10/2024 - 17:35
        -4

        Links are not important. Marvel is of Propaganda. Anyone on Earth knows this. I know how bad your pain is. Anyway, cry more! ;)

  • AngusD on 31/10/2024 - 08:13
    +3

    I didn't mind this one. Didn't like it enough to watch it again, but it was OK. To be fair, my expectations may have been lowered by the absolute mess the MCU has descended into over recent years. I'd actually stopped watching Marvel movies, only went back for this one because I enjoyed the first 2 Deadpool movies (especially the first one). Now that I've watched this, I'm unlikely to go back for any more.

  • piston3461 on 31/10/2024 - 09:03
    +4

    A mid film getting added to a service you already pay for is not a deal

    The only streaming “deal” that should be posted on here is when Real Debrid goes on sale.

  • Taro Milk Tea on 31/10/2024 - 09:05
    +4

    This movie is purely to satisfy the fans. Other than that, the story is quiet meh….no purpose. The ending is bad too. But hey, who wouldn't want to see Wolverine in his yellow suit?

  • pacman21 on 31/10/2024 - 09:19
    +1

    Objectively, it's not great.

    But as a fan, I absolutely loved it. Can't wait to watch it again.

    • sandman20104159 on 31/10/2024 - 10:04

      im no way a marvel fan, i just find their character backstories boring, and when i watched this, im thinking what was the big whoo harr that made over a billion dollars… ok its a good film, id give it 7 out of 10 but i also thought the same of the Joker 2.

  • FXx on 31/10/2024 - 09:25
    +3

    Disney+ have put their annual subscription charge up 50% ($120 to $160) in 2 yrs. They've also just announced they will be charging those who share their accounts with other people, $8 a month for every additional person 'sharing' the account.
    Disney is going down the toilet, continual failed, money losing films filled with a DEI agenda and no story line, online content losing viewers for the same reason. You're paying for their failures.
    This is a company backed by the most despicable companies on the planet such as Black Rock, Vanguard and State Street. If you have a subscription, dump it.

    • botchie on 31/10/2024 - 10:51

      Black Rock, Vanguard have their hands in every pot out there, netflix, stan, you name it but yeah Disney is at best worth $.9.90 a month, I wouldnt pay for it

    • BinaryPirate on 31/10/2024 - 13:28
      -2

      Your remark about who's funding Disney is insightful and it's always interesting when someone blames a "DEI agenda" for movies or TV shows sucking. If it wasn't for the racism which has so long excluded non-whites from the screen, there would literally be no "DEI agenda".
      What someone is actually saying when they whine about DEI is, 'I only want to see white male actors in my movies/shows'

      There is one exception to the above. To date many of the movies/shows featuring gender- &/or race-swapped casts have not been great. However, that's invariably the result of bad writing, editing, direction, etc… which some blame on DEI simply because that's easier & more amenable to a certain mindset than quantifying what was actually wrong with the movie/show.
      Ghostbusters 2, for example, was a mess which certain people blame on the casting of women in the role of Ghostbusters rather than actual culprit - i.e awful writing & terrible direction.

      The Disney+ service is most definitely struggling financially but it's not because Disney increased the proportion of non-white, non-male characters in its shows/movies.

      • 1st-Amendment on 31/10/2024 - 16:42
        +2

        someone blames a "DEI agenda" for movies or TV shows sucking

        Because they do.

        You're either hiring the most competent people or you're not. Only a fool would hire less competent people to fill a skin colour/gender quota then expect the same results. Then when you don't get the same results, blame your audience for not liking the B-grade shit you produced. It's cartoon level logic at work

        If it wasn't for the racism which has so long excluded non-whites from the screen

        Lol. Your race card expired 50 years again when anti-discrimination laws came into effect. How long do you plane on flogging that dead horse?

        which some blame on DEI simply because that's easier

        Or it's true. You're either hiring on competence or skin colour/gender. You can't have it both ways.

        i.e awful writing & terrible direction.

        From less competent DEI hires… see how that works?

        but it's not because Disney increased the proportion of non-white, non-male characters in its shows/movies.

        DEI quotas mean less competent people. Why is this such a hard concept for some to grasp?

        • BinaryPirate on 01/11/2024 - 14:43

          Donald Glover was a DEI hire at 30 Rock.

          You might want to question your belief that only straight white males are talented.

          • 1st-Amendment on 01/11/2024 - 16:21

            @BinaryPirate:

            You might want to question your belief that only straight white males are talented.

            Try and keep it together, you're starting to sound unhinged now.

            At no point has anyone in this thread made that claim. But every who disagrees with you is Hitler right? We know the drill…

            So if you want to actually have a discussion about this, can you tell me how hiring less competent people works better than hiring the most competent people?
            Pick your favourite sports team, would they do better or worse with a bunch of quota hires?

            In Rugby League for example there's a high ratio of Polynesian players and very little Asians or Indians. Should we have quotas for Asians and Indians to balance out the numbers? Would that result in a higher ticket sales? What about the NBA? It's 75% black, would quotas to add more White people make the games better to watch and sell more tickets?

            It's a very simple concept. You hire the most talented people and get the best results, or you don't and you suffer. Disney made their choice and so there's no surprises why they are now taking a hit for it.

            • BinaryPirate on 02/11/2024 - 01:02

              @1st-Amendment: You literally stated that DEI hires are less competent and you doubled down on that in between your ad hominems 🤣🤣

              If the shoe fits… and all that.

        • Nom on 11/11/2024 - 23:56

          @1st-Amendment Why would you bother to spend time typing this when it's clear you have absolutely no idea how DEI works in the hiring process ?

          You're either hiring the most competent people or you're not. Only a fool would hire less competent people to fill a skin colour/gender quota

          This is a fundamental misunderstanding.

          DEI is considered during the recruitment process, because historically we often wouldn't give the job to the most competent people. Everybody has inbuilt bias, and these would often result in the appointment of a candidate who was not the best.
          The whole point is so that you don't miss out on fitting the best person in the role - it's done to benefit the company, not the minority groups.

          It's well understood that a diverse company makes better decisions and ultimately makes more money - there are very few organisations who don't incorporate these methodologies today.

          DEI quotas mean less competent people.

          No. Precisely the opposite is true - why on earth would any company want to recruit less competent people on purpose ? You'd be laughed out of the door if you tried to deliberately do this at any company today.

          Studies like this one - https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/people-and-organizatio… - are why companies are interested in DEI.
          It improves results and productivity - entirely the opposite of the claims in your post 🤷🏼‍♂️

          • 1st-Amendment on 12/11/2024 - 12:07
            -1

            @Nom:

            because historically we often wouldn't give the job to the most competent people

            Lol It's not 1950. Anti-discrimination laws have been in place 50 years. If you have evidence of discrimination in the last 50 years sue them. That why we have laws.

            The whole point is so that you don't miss out on fitting the best person in the role

            Like when Joe Biden said he would only consider a woman for VP, how is this considering the best candidate? He effectively ruled out 50% of the candidates? It's the very definition of sexism, choosing on gender not competence. We now know his pick was quite clearly chosen on sex and race since and once again has shown why this is such a terrible policy. She was a complete lemon of a candidate, but this where DEI takes you. Disney is also learning this lesson.

            It's well understood that a diverse company makes better decisions

            How does having different skin colour make you a better decision maker? This is actual racism right there. Surely the best decision makers make good decisions? What does skin colour or genitalia have to do with that? I'd really love to hear you justification for this new brand of discrimination you have there?

            and ultimately makes more money

            The stock exchange says otherwise…

            Once again, there's not a shred of credible evidence that supports this, but I know the script…

            No. Precisely the opposite is true - why on earth would any company want to recruit less competent people on purpose ?

            Because a lot of people are stupid. And stupid people do stupid things. I mean the subject here is how Disney are bleeding money since their DEI crusade. According to your theory they should be hugely profitable. The evidence here refutes your claim.

            You'd be laughed out of the door if you tried to deliberately do this at any company today.

            No, you'd be applauded for being brave and courageous… a warrior for the social justice cause! Trust me I see this all the time first hand..

            Studies like this one

            That flaky study has been debunked numerous times. eg https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3849562

            It is the classic error of correlation vs causation. Maybe McKinsey asked their DEI hires to justify themselves and this is the best they could come up with? Mediocre pseudo-science.

            So, to answer your question:

            Why would you bother to spend time typing this when it's clear you have absolutely no idea how DEI works in the hiring process ?

            It's clear that I seem to know more about this than you.

            Happy if you have any credible evidence to support the idea that your genitalia or skin colour improves your decision making skills, but that sounds pretty crazy if you just stop and think about it for a moment.

      • FXx on 01/11/2024 - 11:37

        You've got a habit of casually calling people racist / sexist who don't agree with you? Why am I not surprised here, disgusting insinuation.

        The Disney+ service is struggling financially partially because of their focus on 'the proportion of non-white, non-male characters in its shows/movies' being a problem instead of focusing on the content itself. You've got it half right.

        Disney seemed to take a punt and got it wrong, now they've cornered themselves into a place they can't retreat from. It's all DEI from here as they keep saying… in other words more financial failures their customers don't wish to see.

        The numbers don't lie, ratings and $. Disney made a choice to play politics, people watch movies and TV to get away from it! I would say it's amazing the likes of Bob Igor and Kathleen Kennedy are still there after so much financial failure (with more to come like Snow White 2025), but I know they're just following orders from their masters.

        • BinaryPirate on 01/11/2024 - 14:41

          No, but I gave people an out and both you & @1st-Amendment declined to take it, instead doubling down.
          I could go with 'If The Shoe Fits' but - fun fact - most people who say racist, bigoted or misogynistic things don't know they're saying racist, bigoted or misogynistic things.

          A quick rhetorical question.
          When the consensus amongst financial analysts is that Disney+ is struggling because of high costs & over-investment in content during the pandemic for an audience which didn't exist post-pandemic, and only a certain group of people who aren't financial analysts claiming it's the fault of DEI:
          what is the logical conclusion to be drawn?

          fyi Iger left after creating Disney+. Disney brought him back to help fix the financial problems at Disney+.

          Back to why most people don't know when they're saying something racist, bigoted or misogynistic: it's because they believe the racist, bigoted &/or misogynistic things they say are not racist, bigoted or misogynistic.

          Often they believe it's perfectly normal to say those things b/c that's how they were raised. Involuntary programming is the most difficult to identify & unlearn but generally they have never bothered with the self-reflection necessary to interrogate those beliefs.

          I've literally watched it slowly dawn on people who aren't racist, bigoted or misogynistic that the thing they just said was racist, bigoted or misogynistic.

          • 1st-Amendment on 01/11/2024 - 16:06

            @BinaryPirate:

            No, but I gave people an out and both you & @1st-Amendment declined to take it

            You made a lame argument and are surprised when other people didn't automatically agree with you?

            most people who say racist, bigoted or misogynistic things don't know they're saying racist, bigoted or misogynistic things.

            Another lame argument. Who needs a burden of proof when you can just say things and then they magically become true in your head. This is the Everyone who disagree with me is Hitler logic… https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/sxsbfg/when_youre_lo…

            When the consensus amongst financial analysts

            Three for three. I'd love to see the survey you did of these 'financial analysts'? Where is this consensus? Can you provide a link?
            Sounds an awful lot like the argument from authority logical fallacy…

            Disney+ is struggling because of high costs & over-investment

            So less competent decisions then? And less competence happens how? Less competent people in important positions? And this happens right at the time they jump on the DEI bandwagon? Think about this for just a moment the answer is right in front of your face.

            what is the logical conclusion to be drawn?

            The obvious one is that you have used the argument for authority logical fallacy and are completely oblivious of it.

            but generally they have never bothered with the self-reflection necessary to interrogate those beliefs.

            You might want to take your own advice here.

            I've literally watched it slowly dawn on people who aren't racist, bigoted or misogynistic that…

            So everyone who disagrees with you is Hitler? This is the argument you're sticking with?

            The simple fact that that products Disney is making now are crap and less people are willing to pay to see them.
            So next question is why are they crap? Because when you hire on anything other than ability you get lower grade products. This is not rocket science.
            Real world example: Imagine if a professional sports team introduced quotas, do you think they would win more games or less? Or do you think that in a competitive environment you are more likely to be successful by having the best players regardless of their tan level?

            • BinaryPirate on 02/11/2024 - 02:39

              @1st-Amendment: You should read the study on the orchestra whose switch to blind auditions changed the composition of the orchestra from 90% white male to <50% white male.
              A reasonable person would have assumed orchestras prioritise playing ability over everything else.

              Or you could read the studies showing how people with non-white names get better results from job applications when they used a white name instead of their own.

              Or you could read the studies showing female authors still (after hundreds of years) have more success when editors & publishers believe they're white & male.

              Or you could read any of the literal thousands of studies showing how white males regularly hire mediocre white males over better qualified &/or more experienced women, minorities & LGBTIQ people.
              If you're convinced the best person for the job always gets the job, those studies will prove eye-opening for you.

              Or you could continue whining about DEI without ever understanding why it exists or how it actually works vs the racist belief that DEI hires are by default less competent than their straight white male colleagues.

              • 1st-Amendment on 04/11/2024 - 09:38

                @BinaryPirate:

                You should read the study…

                I would if you posted a link but you didn't. That right there is a competence indicator….
                And maybe because these 'studies' you mention are bunk and are the type of pseudo science swallowed by gullible people who have a need to justify their own incompetence?

                I'll also note you failed to answer any of my questions or address any of the points raised.

                the racist belief that DEI hires are by default less competent.

                If you are not hiring on competence then you cannot possible get the most competent people. Why are you struggling which such a simple concept?

                why it exists or how it actually works

                I know exactly why it exists and how it works. Power and Control the same reason most of everything.

                than their straight white male colleagues.

                You're the only here fixated on sexuality, race, and gender. Why is that? Smells like projection…

                As an example, the NBA hires purely on competence, there's hardly any 'straight white males' in the competition. So the evidence simply does match your crazy hypothesis. If you respect science, then when the evidence disagrees without hypothesis you must abandon it.

                More evidence that debunks you claims: If these competent minorities are only being held back by discriminatory hiring practices then why aren't they starting their own business are getting rich?

                You see once you think about it, this whole idea of 'oppressed minorities' falls over. You only have to look at Disney for a perfect example. DEI hires are clearly less competent because you yourself admit that they "are struggling because of high costs & over-investment". Surely if the DEI hires were equally competent they wouldn't have these problems?

                Or go back to the 'everyone who disagrees with me is Hitler' routine and see how that works out…

                • BinaryPirate on 04/11/2024 - 13:09
                  +1

                  @1st-Amendment: You can't use Google? I gave you all the keywords you need and you still demand to be spoon-fed?

                  Or go back to the 'everyone who disagrees with me is Hitler' routine and see how that works out…

                  That does appear to be your routine so I'll take that as a projection.

                  I don't particularly care whether you agree with me or not. The evidence is quite clear and easy to find for anyone interested in supporting the establishment of an actual meritocracy, which isn't you evidently.

                  Feel free to carry on some more if it makes you feel better. I won't be reading anything more from you on this subject.

          • FXx on 01/11/2024 - 21:15

            @BinaryPirate: What exactly did I say that was racist, bigoted or misogynistic?

            You've been conditioned to think that anyone not sharing your political / social opinions are the aforementioned. I'll bet you're offended on behalf of a variety of people in society too. Sad, sad upset person.

            I just want good content, I loved the Alien series of movies (just one example) with a female lead, everyone did. It didn't need to be political and agenda driven. The fans have turned on Disney, even Iger's statements have indicated his frustrations at it. He's had to strip budgets of new projects, even this new Rey series of films is now threatened. I enjoyed The Force Awakens, after that it went quickly south, very quickly. You reap what you sow… Assuming people are simple thinking enough to spend money because they're scared of being considered 'racist, bigoted or misogynistic' if rejecting stupid politically driven content has been a mistake. Nobody cares what ignorant people like yourself think… Hence, I'm not offended here.

            • BinaryPirate on 02/11/2024 - 02:19

              @FXx: You attributed poor financials due to over-investment & high costs to a racist, bigoted &/or misogynistic theory that DEI is responsible for something it isn't.

              If you ever want to understand why DEI is a thing, read some of the research into biased hiring practices against women, minorities & LGBTIQ people.
              The study on the orchestra that switched to blind auditions is particularly worth a read, given any normal person would expect orchestras to prioritise playing ability over race, gender & sexuality.

              We are not the fantasy meritocracy people who whine about DEI try to pretend we are.

              • FXx on 02/11/2024 - 08:06

                @BinaryPirate: No, you attributed my contention that Disney is prioritising / hiring based on DEI as a priority over focusing on a merit based system / content first focus as racist, bigoted &/or misogynistic. The statistics (incl. financials) only support what I'm saying, the growing majority is not buying it, and will not accept content based on being 'fair' in a DEI sense as a reason to spend money. Nor shaming tactics of 'if you reject this you're a racist', which is schoolyard level, childish garbage.

                I don't even care to know what race, gender, sexuality a director and her cast are… Just make good content. But no, they need to throw it in everyone's faces, then play the card you are here when it all falls apart. It's childish, it speaks more to privilege they're afforded without the merit to back it up. Disney has shut down many prospective projects with said directors / cast because they're proven themselves failures.

                But hey, the idealogue activists can always make use of a fine simple idiot. Continue.

                • BinaryPirate on 02/11/2024 - 08:49

                  @FXx:

                  Disney is going down the toilet, continual failed, money losing films filled with a DEI agenda and no story line,

                  It's all DEI from here as they keep saying… in other words more financial failures their customers don't wish to see.

                  The Disney+ service is struggling financially partially because of their focus on 'the proportion of non-white, non-male characters in its shows/movies' being a problem instead of focusing on the content itself.

                  I didn't put the words in your mouth &, since we're on the subject, Iger never said the words you tried to put in his.

                  You might believe you don't care what race, gender, sexuality a director and her cast are. Your reaction to DEI & its being the result of racist, bigoted and misogynistic hiring practices says otherwise.

                  But hey, the racists, bigots & misogynists are always looking for people they can call allies, so why do the work, right?

                  edit - In case you're interested, everything you & that other clown have said I've heard previously from countless racists, bigots and misogynists, most of whom weren't even slightly reticent about indentifying themselves as such. Just thought you might like to know.

                  • FXx on 02/11/2024 - 13:06

                    @BinaryPirate: Iger has cancelled many projects due to failed box office and streaming numbers, you just don't catch it in the mainstream, they don't want to let it me known. Do some research.

                    You still can't indicate how anything I've said computes to me being a racist, sexist or misogynist. It's all insinuation because I'm not aligned with what you've been fooled into believing by your ideology. All you have to contribute is 'I've heard what you've said from racists, that means you're racist'…

                    Who am I talking to here, a 14yr old? Unbelievable. Grow up.

                    • tonka on 02/11/2024 - 17:51
                      +1

                      @FXx: Isn't it pretty normal for a proportion of projects not to finish development though. At what point are they being cancelled, scoping and viability, that would just be healthy business. In any industry. And yes for movies, one reason is likely they can't identify a market for the project, or the budget needed is too high etc. I don't think the process should surprise anyone with any business or project experience.

                    • BinaryPirate on 02/11/2024 - 21:38
                      +1

                      @FXx: lol

                      "Do some research"

                      … says the person repeatedly trying to blame Disney's financial position on the racist theory that it's all DEI's fault.

                      ”… you just don't catch it in the mainstream"

                      I'm sure I've heard that before… where was it…? Ah, yes. I hear that all the time from racists, bigots & misogynists whose minority-held opinions are supported only by their feelings & never by any credible evidence or data.

                      If you don't want to be mistaken for a racist, bigot or misogynist, maybe try not repeating theories developed & propagated by racists, bigots & misogynists.

                      Also fyi, contrary to your weird outbursts, I don't have a problem with DEI not because of any ideology but because of evidence.

                      When racism, bigotry & misogyny cease to be factors in hiring practices I will quite happily wave DEI off into the sunset.

                      • FXx on 04/11/2024 - 09:27

                        @BinaryPirate: If you don't want to be mistaken for a child, maybe try not repeating theories developed & propagated by progressive idealogues who resort to insulting those they don't know personally for simply not subscribing to their political faith.

                        A DEI agenda for Disney has hurt them financially, it's turned many fans away who prefer a focus of strong storylines, character development and true to franchise. I keep saying it, the numbers don't lie - box office, streaming. All these gender / race swap remakes fail, watch Snow White 2025 bomb spectacularly next year. The Acolyte, massive bomb.. Look at what they did to Indiana Jones and the dial of destiny…? Now you have several people involved in these failed projects considering lawsuits against Disney for prospective projects they've now thrown in the bin.

                        All I'm gathering from what you're saying is you'd rather an organisation focus on DEI, you'll even purchase their products and services in the event that such an agenda results in a lower quality product or service? Your ideology is more important to you. Unfortunately, capitalism, a free market doesn't operate that way as Disney is finding out. In this case Disney have raised their prices of Disney+ 50% in 2yrs too…

                        • 1st-Amendment on 04/11/2024 - 09:44
                          +1

                          @FXx:

                          When racism, bigotry & misogyny cease to be factors in hiring practices

                          We're still waiting for evidence of this preposterous claim.
                          But who needs evidence when you just can cry victim your entire life and demand a free ride. Meanwhile back in reality…

                          • BinaryPirate on 04/11/2024 - 13:10

                            @1st-Amendment: The evidence is freely and widely available to anyone interested - i.e not you.

                            • 1st-Amendment on 05/11/2024 - 07:04
                              +1

                              @BinaryPirate:

                              The evidence is freely and widely available

                              Yet you can't produce any… The silence here is deafening.

                              I produced the evidence that debunks your preposterous claim and now you run away. That says everything we need to know about the crazy cult of DEI…

                              • BinaryPirate on 05/11/2024 - 23:49

                                @1st-Amendment: I really need to learn to ignore notifications & be more obvious first time around :(

                                You're still whining at me under the misapprehension I care whether or not you educate yourself to a higher standard than the level at which you quite evidently currently reside.

                                In no uncertain terms, I do not.
                                You showed me who you are & I believe you.

                                Looking at your contributions here I can tell you honestly there are no justifications, rationalisations, analogies or metaphors you can tell me on this subject that I haven't already heard from some openly racist clown on other SM platforms.

                                I have no expectation someone who doesn't understand the difference between 'can't' & 'won't' could grasp subtlety so I'll be super blunt.

                                I don't want to talk to you or hear from you anymore.
                                Please stop tagging me.

                                Whatever you need to do or say to feel better about yourself, go hard but do not tag me anymore.

                                • 1st-Amendment on 06/11/2024 - 07:35

                                  @BinaryPirate:

                                  I haven't already heard from some openly racist clown

                                  'Everyone who disagrees with me is Hitler', we know the childish logic of the DEI cult…

                                  I don't want to talk to you or hear from you anymore.

                                  You are free to stop responding. There is also a block function if you can't deal with people who question your crazy ideas.
                                  But you prefer the echo chamber where everyone agrees with you and anyone who disagrees with you is Hitler, we know exactly how it works.

                                  • BinaryPirate on 06/11/2024 - 11:48

                                    @1st-Amendment: I have no problem with people who want to question my "… crazy ideas" that are 100% based on what all the credible research - i.e not white supremacist 'research' - shows.
                                    In fact, people having respectful conversations about evidence & data is how people learn.

                                    You don't want to do that. You whine like a toddler, trying to force people to accept your evidence-free minority position based on your feelings & racist conspiracy theories about DEI.

                                    For sure one of us is looking for an echo chamber.
                                    The other person is me.

                                    I sincerely look forwards to never hearing from you again 🙂🙂

                                    • 1st-Amendment on 07/11/2024 - 09:53

                                      @BinaryPirate:

                                      that are 100% based on what all the credible research

                                      So credible that you can't provide a single citation. That is the opposite of credible.

                                      i.e not white supremacist 'research'

                                      'Everyone who disagrees with me is Hitler'…

                                      In fact, people having respectful conversations about evidence & data is how people learn

                                      Yeah so where is this evidence & data? Can you see the irony there? You are unable to provide a shred of evidence or data to support your idea.
                                      When I literally asked you "So if you want to actually have a discussion about this, can you tell me how hiring less competent people works better than hiring the most competent people?" Your response to this questions was 'You're Hitler!' Is that an example of a respectful conversation?

                                      You don't want to do that.

                                      See above. I'll ask again since you keep avoiding it. Can you tell me how hiring less competent people works better than hiring the most competent people?

                                      Let's use a real world example. Do you think LeBron James should be replaced by an Asian or Indian player to satisfy a DEI quota? Would that make the Lakers a better team or worse team?

                                      racist conspiracy theories about DEI.

                                      'Everyone who disagrees with me is Hitler'… Are you a bot?

                                • youfnc on 06/11/2024 - 10:20
                                  +1

                                  @BinaryPirate: I wouldn't worry too much. The guy is miserable and has major issues managing his emotions. 5 years of this behaviour on a bargain website. You almost have to feel bad for him.

                                  • BinaryPirate on 06/11/2024 - 11:51
                                    +1

                                    @youfnc: I got that impression. For the first time in over a decade here I've had to use the hide function.

                                  • 1st-Amendment on 07/11/2024 - 10:06

                                    @youfnc: Ad Hominem
                                    This term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than the substance of the argument itself. This avoids genuine debate by creating a diversion often using a totally irrelevant, but often highly charged attribute of the opponent's character or background.

                                    Wake me up when you get off your L plates 😁

                        • BinaryPirate on 04/11/2024 - 12:59

                          @FXx: If that's what you're gathering from what I said I severely overestimated your ability to read and process information.

                          You've made yourself quite clear. You can look forwards to many more decades of DEI in one form or another as the reason for its existence isn't going away anytime soon.

                          • FXx on 07/11/2024 - 09:40

                            @BinaryPirate: Well, DEI may not be going away anytime soon… The results from the USA suggest people are sick and tired of being virtue signalled to by progressive elites, perched from their gated communities. Watch Albo get decimated next year now, Australia has similar issues and America voted on policy.

                            Look at Biden, the guy made it clear he wanted a woman of colour as his VP. He chose someone, non merit based who was completely unprepared for the role. Now, she's been humiliated in front of the world in the name of DEI. I never once heard her speak intelligently on policy, just pre-written drivel and giggling, dodged questions, blunder after blunder. She wouldn't go on any podcast she couldn't control, no doubt she was given that advice by those pulling her puppet strings. Quite pathetic.

                            So there you have it, DEI is returning failure after failure. Keep beating that drum though, it's noble work you're doing.

                            • BinaryPirate on 07/11/2024 - 20:08

                              @FXx: Is DEI in the room with us now?

                              As usual you're choosing to blame imaginary DEI for something which would've resembled a dumpster fire regardless of the person nominated to be the DNC's presidential candidate.

                              While Harris proved empirically to be the most effective VP since Cheney steered an unwilling nation into a series of endless unwinnable wars in the Middle East, she lost because her strategy was to campaign with right wingnuts like Liz Cheney in pursuit of disgruntled Trump voters & sensible Republicans.

                              ~21 million people sat out this election. Trump's vote dropped by ~2 million.
                              Harris's strategy left ~17 million votes on the table: people who would've voted for a two-legged deaf goat over Trump but wouldn't come out for a candidate who swung to the right & fawned over genocide apologists.

                              I do find it amusing you're criticising Harris for dodging questions & blundering through interviews, given Trump's interviews and speeches have been nothing short of train wrecks files with unpronounceable brain farts & refusals to even take questions unless from hand-picked sycophants.

                              There is a word for holding a woman to a higher standard than you hold a man in the same position.
                              See if you can figure out what it is 😊😊

                              • FXx on 07/11/2024 - 21:15

                                @BinaryPirate: Harris lost because of Liz Cheney? Now that's the best excuse I've heard yet. I was hoping I'd get an ideologue's opinion here, I wasn't let down.

                                I'm glad you mentioned Cheney actually, did you notice her father, warmonger Dick coming out backing the Democrats too? Calling Trump the most dangerous man in the world none the less? Incredible. This man was the devil of the Left when the Republicans were pushing war, always was, and for good reason. Now you have the Republicans calling for an end to war, the Democrats want none of it. No wonder Dick Cheney is in your camp. Do you realise Trump 2016-2020 was the only Presidential period since the 70s to either not start, or take NATO into a new war? The Democrats have become the warmongers, your new mate Dick just switches it up as convenient.

                                Yes, Trump talks poorly and makes mistakes, but he's available and more relatable. He ran with long running podcasts, more importantly he was able to speak intelligently on policy. Harris was pathetic off the cuff, it was on her terms with her team providing instructions or nothing.

                                People knew Harris was no good, she's never been popular, ever. She blew border control, and even with all their coordinated illegals flooding into swing states to beef up Democrat votes they still got walked over.

                                Harris' campaign focus was identity politics (DEI) and 'Trump the villain'. Along with the condescending, pathetic Hollywood celebrity rollouts, people are sick of it. Trump focused on policy.

                                Harris being a DEI appointment imaginary is it? No, you're imagining that Biden didn't do it. It failed, she allowed Trump to take all the swing states and the popular vote. This will go down as a historic election, Harris the DEI, non-merit selected loser who facilitated it. No, it was all Liz Cheney's fault, simply no accountability on these morons you worship, hilarious. Thank you for the laugh tonight, and all the best in the future with your faith.

                                • BinaryPirate on 09/11/2024 - 00:39

                                  @FXx: lol

                                  icymi (& you most definitely embarrassingly did), I didn't say Harris lost because of Liz Cheney.
                                  That's a cute little strawman of your own making right there. Same with your diatribe about Dick, of course.

                                  In any case, I can't talk with you anymore. I don't care about your inaccurate &/or dishonest childish insults but I never could see the point of trying to converse with someone who can't read at least at a 6th grade level.

                                  It's no wonder you're so terrified of DEI. If a woman can get a job just because she's a woman, any woman who can read at a 7th grade level or higher poses a serious competitive threat to you.

                                  Fun Fact #35,102 - people who can't read at at a 6th grade level are the reason news media journalists aren't allowed to any word the average 12yr old won't easily understand.

                                  It's amusing to see you still haven't figured out you hold Harris to a higher standard than you do Trump.
                                  It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if that's a common theme with you.

                                  Good luck with that :)

                                  • FXx on 09/11/2024 - 07:44

                                    @BinaryPirate: "she lost because her strategy was to campaign with right wingnuts like Liz Cheney" @BinaryPirate

                                    "I didn't say Harris lost because of Liz Cheney.
                                    That's a cute little strawman of your own making right there. Same with your diatribe about Dick, of course." @BinaryPirate

                                    As I suspected, you are 14yrs of age. Either that or you were drunk into the early hours of this morning. It really hurts doesn't it?

                                    • BinaryPirate on 11/11/2024 - 00:34

                                      @FXx: Evidently 5th grade English - i.e subjects & predicates - is too hard for you but that's not uncommon for your type.

                                      Also common for your type, either dishonestly or just plain stupidly, reading only the part of the sentence which aligns to your beliefs.
                                      .
                                      Best you stick to whining about DEI and fantasizing about teenagers. Yikes!

                                      p.s Now it makes sense. When you can only see the words your beliefs will allow you to see, as you very obviously do, ofc everything you read will always confirm what you already believe.
                                      Damn. That explains so so much.

                                      • FXx on 11/11/2024 - 14:17

                                        @BinaryPirate: Personal insults is all you have left… You're all twisted up with nowhere else to go, this is hilarious. Just like all those elitist leftists who are still trying to figure out where it all went wrong.

                                        Trying to reflect the limitations of your own ideological thinking onto me? I'm admittedly a centrist, in fact for the majority of my life I've leant to the left. Try again.

                                        • BinaryPirate on 12/11/2024 - 14:33

                                          @FXx: 🤣🤣

                                          Accurate observations =/= personal insults.

                                          While bigotry, misogyny, racism & idiocy are most prevalent and obvious on the right, your contributions to this thread are exemplary of their presence on the left & most especially the centre.

                                          "You're all twisted up with nowhere else to go, this is hilarious. Just like all those elitist leftists who are still trying to figure out where it all went wrong."

                                          It's fascinating what people will reveal about themselves when you provide the opportunity.

                                          • FXx on 13/11/2024 - 07:42

                                            @BinaryPirate: Perfect, I think you're actually learning something…

                                            Your insults are meaningless, you know nothing about anyone on here, they're purely a childish means for you to try and win an argument by claiming moral superiority.
                                            These views are starting to be exposed in mainstream society as ideologic, virtue signalling nonsense, a classic case of all care and no responsibility. The more your views are challenged, the more extreme they become, the more people you'll be forced to throw in the 'bigotry, misogyny, racism & idiocy' class. Before long you've excluded almost everyone from what you consider to be a good person…

                                            Wake up.

                                            • BinaryPirate on 13/11/2024 - 08:44

                                              @FXx: 🤣🤣🤣🤣

                                              For sure I've learned something.
                                              I've learned you're exactly the person I figured you for at the outset but either less intelligent or more dishonest.

                                              Should you ever get around to challenging "… my beliefs" - i.e facts supported by data/evidence - with something other than evidence-free histrionics, please be sure to let me know.

                                              Sorry (not sorry) you feel insulted by accurate descriptions of your behaviour, reading comprehension &/or integrity.

                                              • FXx on 13/11/2024 - 09:27

                                                @BinaryPirate: There you go again, retreating back to insults and your faux moral high ground. Facts? What facts?

                                                Only in your world are these idiotic labels an insult, the rest of us are just laughing at how hoodwinked you are, if not a very, very useful simple idiot.

                                                • BinaryPirate on 14/11/2024 - 11:49

                                                  @FXx: lol. You whine about feeling insulted yet offer nothing but puerile, clichéd abuse in defense of your feelings.

                                                  Unfortunately - for you, that is - your feelings aren't represented in research or data; only opinion pieces, angry long-winded forum rants and social media diatribes.

                                                  While racists, bigots & misogynists are having a moment, thanks largely to low-information voters, it never lasts.

                                                  You'll be still whining about this many decades after you've been muted.

                                                  • FXx on 14/11/2024 - 13:47

                                                    @BinaryPirate: Right, my personal feelings are illegitimate because they're not represented in research or data. Seriously, where do you get this from? A Social Science Professor perhaps?

                                                    Anyway, I wish you all the best. Keep that idealogue hat on (or is it a blue bracelet now?) and always strive to be the best simple idiot you can!
                                                    You seem to me like someone who has either required DEI, or will do in order to succeed. Or perhaps you've already failed at life and feel bitter and upset about not getting more for nothing from someone who's more talented and works a lot harder? One or the other…

                                                    Either way, this has been a little bit of fun for me. I do find political idealogues interesting. Have a nice afternoon.

                                                    • BinaryPirate on 19/11/2024 - 13:39

                                                      @FXx:

                                                      "Either way, this has been a little bit of fun for me.

                                                      You enjoy getting triggered, rage-projecting & whining because your feel your feelings aren't being respected?

                                                      That's either very weird or just dishonest, though your need to try to claim some sort of victory is understandable.

                                                      "You seem to me like someone who has either required DEI,"

                                                      Nope. That's just you literally making up anything you can to insult me b/c you have nothing else, as evidenced by your need to make up a fairy tale about who you imagine I am.
                                                      fyi, doing that always says more about the person fabricating the fairy tale up than it ever will the boogeyman they/you believe you're attacking.

                                                      icyww I'm in the cohort most disadvantaged by DEI: successful professional white men aged 35-60, who aren't racist, bigoted, misogynistic, narcissistic, fragile &/or toxic.

                              • 1st-Amendment on 08/11/2024 - 09:07

                                @BinaryPirate:

                                While Harris proved empirically

                                You keep using these words that you clearly don't know what they mean. 'Empirical' means verifiable with objective data. You are yet to provide a single shred of evidence and data that exists to support you ridiculous claims

                                There is a word for holding a woman to a higher standard than you hold a man in the same position.

                                Lol. Harris, Pence, Biden (as VP), Gore, Quayle, Mondale were all equally ineffective. Bush Snr and Cheney are the only VP's in a generation that actually have notable achievements (good or bad).
                                But your comment shows why DEI is so poisonous. It creates an environment where the some groups get an immunity card that is free from criticism based purely on their gender or skin colour.

                                & refusals to even take questions unless from hand-picked sycophants.

                                Yet the empirical data says the opposite. Trump has the highest rate of interactions with the media of any President: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/presidential…

                                For reference, Harris did precisely zero press conferences. ZERO lol
                                https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/1…

                                Empirical data is a bitch eh…

                                • BinaryPirate on 09/11/2024 - 01:38
                                  -1

                                  @1st-Amendment: Weird. Seems there's kind of a whine & what sounds like someone throwing a tantrum, but it's too far away to be intelligible

                                  Sounds like a b… b-u…. buhtm….aah…
                                  Oh, "bUt m'Uh…" 🤣🤣

                                  clarkson-ohno-anyway.gif

                                  • 1st-Amendment on 09/11/2024 - 09:18
                                    +1

                                    @BinaryPirate:

                                    Seems there's kind of a whine & what sounds like someone throwing a tantrum, but it's too far away to be intelligible

                                    Was this your attempt at ' respectful conversations about evidence & data'?

                                    Or was it just regular old cognitive dissonance kicking in when the data and evidence contradicted your crazy ideas?

  • morediscount on 31/10/2024 - 09:37

    Disney+ must be desperate

    • AngusD on 31/10/2024 - 10:27
      +3

      It's a Disney movie. They all end up on Disney+.

  • sandman20104159 on 31/10/2024 - 10:02
    +1

    its already been out on "the bay with a ship and a skull and bone flag hoisted."

    • Opaquer on 31/10/2024 - 10:16
      +1

      Can confirm, it's been available to watch out there for a while now :)

  • garygaz on 31/10/2024 - 10:56
    +3

    Weird one - watched in the cinema with a few friends (we are middling marvel fans, watched the old stuff but not new stuff) - and we all really enjoyed it and had a laugh

    Decided to flick it on the Tele the other day for some light viewing with the missus and i could barely get through it. Can’t remember having such a large drop off in enjoyment between the first and second viewing of a movie before

    • Mondorock on 31/10/2024 - 16:18

      How did you "flick it on the tele" if it's not coming out on streaming until Nov 12? Did you buy the DVD/blu-ray?

      • garygaz on 31/10/2024 - 18:55

        I sailed the seven seas and watched through plex

  • cashews on 31/10/2024 - 11:12

    Good movie if you're a fan of Deadpool/Marvel, but not really something you'd watch more than once.

  • pformag on 31/10/2024 - 11:44
    +4

    6/10 movie. Not worth a rewatch.

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 31/10/2024 - 18:10

      rating it too high no? Origins: Wolverine is the only good one and like a 6/10 because it has that scene where they inject molten metal into his bones as an experiment and then he brutally murders the other experimented metal boners and a few other people.

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