Motorcycle Lessons - Which One to Pick? [Victoria]

Please confirm that

Pre learners course - I've never touched a bike before should i buy this or will i be ok?

2 Day course? I get the Ls after right? just this?

Then P test is it?

where to go for cheap? I see armstrong is 490

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  • Just remember , this is for you to ride on road and being safe about it . Whatever school you have found , you should probably use as there's no excuse for depriving yourself of rider education. Near me is ;
    Honda Australia Rider Training , somerton.
    RIDE-TEK MTA Sunshine.
    Ring instead of asking here , so you can make informed decisions.
    Rider Bros. Motorcycle Training Calder park.

  • +2

    Bikies?

  • Most of your questions are answered on the Vic Transport website

    As you are someone who has never ridden, I would suggest attending the per-learner course if they teach you how to ride a motorcycle and give you access to practice on one.

    I also suggest asking if they offer extra time on a motorcycle to practice and also taking that option.

    “P’s” test will come later, but it’s pretty much similar to the “L’s”. Depending on your age, you will be on your learner permit for some time.

    And I know it’s a bargain website, but if you think the price for learning to ride and getting a license is high, may I suggest that motorcycling isn’t for you. It can be a very expensive hobby with buying gear, buying the bike, insurance is sky high for new riders, bike maintenance, etc. I would be running the numbers on that before you think about getting a license.

    I wouldn’t care about the cost of the course, I would care more about the reputation of the training centre and what facilities they have and how long they have been running for. Find a few in your local area and do a search online and read the reviews. Ring and speak to them, if they sound helpful, they most likely will be the better choice.

  • +1

    Best not to get one. Have you not seen the way people drive around here?

    • +5

      I kind of agree with this. I got my motorcycle license in 1992 and used to ride everywhere. I have so many km under me on motorcycles in my younger years, but now, I might ride less than 50km a week on a bike, it scares me now. Not my riding, but other drivers.

      Everyone is too busy on their phones or fluffing about with their iPad sized entertainment screens or zoned out because cars do half the driving now and the quality of drivers in the last decade or so has declined to the point where I think that they just pass anyone who applies for a license.

      Back in the 90’s, you might come across 2 or 3 bad drivers on your ride, now, I come across 2 or 3 good drivers. The advent of everyone wanting to drive Abrahams tank sized vehicle and coupling it with the matching attitude also doesn’t help.

      Unless it was for a job (motorcycle courier/postie) or motorcycle mechanic/sales, I wouldn’t be getting my motorcycle license now, especially as someone who has never ridden a bike at all.

      • +3

        100% agree. People these days drive with a willful negligence. I nearly got taken out by a tradie in a dual cab who went through a red-light. I caught up to him just to see what's up, he didn't even realise it was a red-light. People don't drive with any care or awareness

      • +2

        It's horrifying to see how many people tailgate bikes in Melbourne on my drive to work each day. If I was riding a bike I'd be terrified of ever needing to stop in a hurry, because someone is definitely going to insert their car into your rear.

        And that's ignoring the ones who intentionally do stupid things like stop a bike going between cars or overtake them while taking off from the lights.

        I grew up in the country riding bikes on a farm, my brother and dad had a license but I was too concerned then about how people drove around bikes. These days it's 100x times worse.

    • +1

      Best not to get one

      That’s the advice I was given by friends who work in hospital emergency departments.

    • I'm happy to ride in paddocks and designated tracks but no way in hell would I bother with a road license. That's a death wish these days.

      • +1

        Motorcycles make deaths, cheers.

    • OP (seriously) needs another post on best/cheapest private health that covers inpatient orthopaedic surgery rehab; and term life insurance

  • +1

    If you have never touched a motorcycle and intend to get one for everyday use i would highly recommend just focusing on training, not finding the cheapest and quickest way to a license.

    It’s easy enough to learn to ride a motorcycle to pass the test.

    It’s a lot more difficult to stay alive on one without the experience and training under your belt.

    So even after you get your license, look into extra riding courses or track days where you can be trained properly.

  • Don't forget life insurance.

  • where to go for cheap? I see armstrong is 490

    Usually I wouldn’t say cheap = good for something like this, but I’ve actually done the course at Armstrong’s and they were very good. There was no bull with them, they were blunt and realistic about when you’ll crash, not if.

    They failed someone (1 of 8 in the course) who unfortunately wasn’t able to pick it up (who had already bought a bike), so they’re not just gonna pass you for attending.

    • +1

      "realistic about when you’ll crash, not if"
      Dress for the slide, not the ride
      .

  • From the last time I got my rider's licence, which was about 20 odd yrs ago, I went through rider bros and they were excellent.

    But your training shouldn't just be the 2 day course, check out "Netrider" forums, don't know if it's still active now, but it was a great resource for learners, they also had a lot of learner friendly cruises organised that you could attend with experience riders giving you tips and advice.

  • If you've never touched a bike before then I would suggest doing the pre-learners. When I did my learners, everyone on the course has ridden a motorbike of some sort so we barely went over how to use the clutch/gears. So I'm not entirely sure how much time will be spent on teaching you how to ride a bike. We had someone in our group drop their bike on the first day, instructor had a chat with him and I didn't see him again.

    You will get your learners after you successfully complete the 2 day course. After that, you will need to do a check ride and the licence test before your learners permit expires in 15 months. If your learners permit has expired, you will have to do everything again, which will be costly. VicRoads and the Training facilities will have all the information you need.

    • drop their bike on the first day, instructor had a chat with him and I didn't see him again.

      Instant fail even back when I did my course about 18 years ago. Back then you didn’t even have to ride a bike on the road for any of the testing or training, it was entirely possible to get your full licence without ever exceeding 30km/h or riding on the road amongst other traffic.

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