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I'm still hoping to find a sub $300 Ubiquiti U7-Pro again. This looks to be the lowest for the Max version so far.
Ubiquiti UniFi U7 Pro Max Wi-Fi 7 Access Point $462.39 Delivered @ SydneyTec eBay
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Whats the issue? Not working when in Auto Band Steering mode?
What if you have a separate 2.4ghz network?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/search/?q=u7&type=link&cId…
Seems to be an emmerging issue, with no exact fix yet. These are with people have have a separate 2.4ghz unit. Certain 2.4ghz devices with cheaper chipsets are just randomly dropping off.
It sounds to me that it is a software thing.
I've always been against Band Steering, as I have had issues with Printers, IoT Devices, Foxtel Box, etc., not connecting when Band Steering is on. So I've got my networks separated (5GHZ and 2.4GHZ), so then I know what is what.
@geekcohen: You can keep band steering turned on for your 5Ghz friendly devices, and then create another SSID (called IoT for example) that operates only on 2.4Ghz.
@thriftshop: Yes, that is exactly what I have done.
So I've got my networks separated (5GHZ and 2.4GHZ), so then I know what is what.
@geekcohen: Maybe I wasn’t clear enough. When I say “keep band steering turned on for your 5Ghz friendly devices” I’m saying that you can have one SSID set to be configured with 5GHz AND 2.4GHz with band steering turned on, and then create another SSID (called IoT for example) that you configure to operate ONLY on 2.4Ghz for your IoT devices.
I've had issues with smart-switching/band-steering for years. Should never have been allowed to become a "thing".
Have decided it's God's way of telling me to get new devices. Or some dedicated 2.4GHz APs.
@hotphil: 2.4ghz devices have better signal penetration through walls so they're perfect for low bandwidth iot devices. APs should have separate radios and antennas for 2.4 vs 5ghz so no need for standalone APs given you can configure different SSIDs per radio frequency.
Even if IOT devices can use 5ghz, unless they need the bandwidth then probably better to force them onto 2.4ghz unless the network is overcrowded
@hotphil: The Unifi console allows to create an additional 2.4Ghz only Wifi network. There is no need for more devices.
@guidedlight: Yeah, I didn't go for Unifi. I've got multiple SSIDs and only wanted one for IoT devices so upgraded the couple of devices that weren't happy with smart-steering stuff.
I have the U7-Pro. Most of my iOT devices work perfectly, expect my Ring Doorbell and Sonos system. These just will not function properly no matter what I do - have tried every fix I can find. Have to run a second ASUS AP for these 2.
It also runs very hot - must chew a bit of power.
Otherwise fast and reliable.
there's been quite a few reports of this on the unifi forums, even when running dedicated 2.4ghz networks, seems to be chipset or firmware related. Hopefully they can fix it with an update. For IoT a U6 or U6 Pro are better options.
2.5gbe port is a bit of a bummer. Would be nice to have 10gbe.
Agreed. I'm finding it difficult to proceed further with Ubiquiti given there's little support for 10gbe. There's pros/cons on Ubiquiti vs TP-Link for deciding on a robust home network is:
Ubiquiti
+ integrated routers with controllers (eg. Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway Max) at 2.5gbe
+ a sensible amount of ports in their smaller devices at 2.5gbe
+ an easy-to-understand interface & configuration
- a complete dirth of 10gbe options from AP, router, switches etc.
- WiFI 7 AP is 2x2TP-Link Omada
+ have plentiful 10gbe access points & switches small device options incl PoE++
+ wifi 7 access points with full fledged 4x4 MIMO
+ multiple WAN ports per device
- only integrated router with controller is the ER7212PC '3-in-1' which has only 1gbe ports
- limits 5 GHz speed in AP to emphasis 6 GHzSo in the wash, here's how it works out to this post regarding WiFi 7 AP:
Ubiquiti U7 Pro Max vs TP-Link BE19000
2.4 GHz — Ubiquiti 688 Mbps vs TP-Link 1376 Mbps
5 GHz — Ubiquiti 8.6 Gbps vs TP-Link 5.7 Gbps
6 GHz — Ubiquiti 5.7 Gbps vs TP-Link 11.5 GbpsSide note: FWIW if anyone can find a TP-Link integrated router with controller with 10 Gbe, or a simple solution work around, let me know.
Serious q for both of you.
What are you doing/running/whatever that requires more than 2.5gbe? Even at Gigabit ~115MB/s actual transfer speeds, so 2.5x that isn't fast enough for you?
I guess it'd make sense to want 10G if you're doing lots of local work/editing off network drives and doing ingestion/rendering via network etc I guess?
When you go buy a car but your only comparison point maximum speed ie 230km/h corolla vs 200km/h rav4
Deep packet inspection
Intrusion detection / Intrusion prevention
Or any other NGFW features from circa 2008 until now just go out the window in this 'robust' network comparison
Why would you care about 10Gb ports on a wifi access point?
Remember, it's a shared medium MIMO is inherently oversold in marketing, and dependent on client devices.
Surely for a WAP hardware reliability, OS stability, regular and dependable updates, range and max concurrent connections and even proper product roadmaps are all more important factors than NIC speed epeening.
Do any enterprise WAPs have 10Gb ports? I just checked and the top of the line Ruckus AP has 5Gb + 2.5Gb but that's rated for over a thousand concurrent connections and probably costs 2K. And in most deployments would be connected to standard gig switches anyway.
I would want higher than 2.5gbps because I have workloads that would saturate 2.5gbps.
I didn't say any other featureset or quality is more or less important.
TP-Links EAP773 has a 10gbps port and is actually cheaper than this AP. The EAP783 has dual 10gbps ports. Aruba has some that have dual 5gbps.
Does this device have issues with heat?
Many people also report that they are too hot to touch.
It has a fan, if that’s an indication. But it shouldn’t get hot in home environments.
Waiting for a good deal on the wall plate version
The in-wall one? This U7 has mounts that can be mounted to anything real. Wall, ceiling, doesn't matter.
Yeah purely for aesthetics. I got my inlaws a few of these for their new place.
Fair enough. If you are worried about Aesthetics and have roof space, just leave them in the roof. That is what I've done. My two APs for the house are in the roof, one at each end. Hidden and out of the way.
@geekcohen: even within the roof cavity put it higher up to broaden the coverage cone on the ground level.
summer heat is a worry but if it's already in the roof cavity it's getting cooked anyway@geekcohen: The heat build up in an insulated Australian house roof space in summer can be substantial - easily in excess of 50c. Most consumer level electronics will struggle with that kind of heat.
@b1h:The same code brings U7 pro to under $300
$330.34 im getting
Thats the U6
Have been tempted to upgrade to the U7 Pro but my only Wifi 7 device is the 16 Pro Max and apparently the iPhones haven't been connecting to 320mhz
what's the use cases for actually benefiting from Wi-Fi 7's capabilities?
zilch if you don't own any Wifi 7 devices
and if you do have Wi-Fi 7 devices?
For most people also zilch
For people moving huge files over their local network, it's a bit faster
I wonder if there will be any decent Wifi6 AC Pro deals coming up in black friday.
Looking to change from a UDM to a UDM pro with some Wifi 6 Access Points.
Fantastic deal, thanks OP
most people don't even know about wifi 6 or 6+, let alone 7….
they can stick with their Telstra 'Smart' Modem
most people don't even know about wifi 6 or 6+, let alone 7….
6+?
There's a new one. So hard to keep track of these standards (especially when they don't exist)
With the emerging issues of this device and no fix yet found, id be going with their wifi 6e or even the 6 pro device for rock solid performance and cheaper $
I don't see why the hype for Ubiquiti, folks are paying for the brand and not for the product.
It is as proprietary as it gets without giving back to the open-source community it grew up from.
I keep seeing folks complaining that its proprietary software provides minimal customization and they cannot make basic customization.These devices are for those who don't care about money, those who have hundreds of mobile apps one for each thing, and those who will use it as it is.
If you require advanced features, you are toasted.
You can buy better and cheaper hardware elsewhere.What brands do you recommend?
@J4ckal, I have an Asus RT-AX53U WiFi6 that I bought to flash OpenWRT but the wireless performance was dogsh1t.
It turned out that it runs an "community" firmware supported by Asus and let me tell you, it just runs.I run it as dumb access point providing radio only, all the network management is done via OPNSense firewall/router ( Linux PC )
With that being said, Asus has been found to be totally anti-consumer so I would think 10x to buy anything "new" from them in the future.
As for WiFi 7, let's be honest, devices are still being sold with WiFi5, WiFi6 is somewhat still crawling.
And even some WiFi6 devices have dogsh1t chipset.3 years or so ago I bought a Lenovo Legion 5 Pro AMD gaming laptop running Linux ( Linux all the way ), it as beast of a laptop, I love it but its WiFi6 chipset is a garbage MediaTek.
I have upgraded it to Intel Killer AX210 chipset instead and was able to play XBox xCloud via that Asus for 5h to see "what sup" before removing Windows from it.Don't follow the crowd, you can buy decent hardware that allows you to fully use without restriction crappy like Ubiquiti for cheaper as long as you do your homework and in case I forgot to mention, don't follow the crowd.
As for a list with recommendation if I had to upgrade that Asus now, Youtube is the place looking for trustworthy folks like GamersNexus.
Thanks, I'll take that advice.
I don't see why the hype for Ubiquiti, folks are paying for the brand and not for the product.
Because it works okay 'most' of the time, it looks pretty compared to lots of other options, and it's juuust expensive and carefully marketed enough to make people used to home routers think "oooh serious business gear". I mean, Ubiquiti literally calls their APs "Enterprise" which is totally laughable.
Same could be said about Apple and yet…
Ubiquiti wants to be Apple. Same way that Xiaomi wants to be Apple (right down to how the CEO dresses like Steve Jobs in black turtlenecks and gives similar style keynote presentations)
Neither are anything like Apple.
PSA: This does not come with PoE++ injector in the box.
You'll need to purchase it separately (if you don't have a PoE++ switch).
Be warned about 2.4ghz iOT device issues with this, if you're using it for home.