Router Recommendation - Fully Wired Home

Yiannakis50 on 14/10/2024 - 09:30
Last edited 14/10/2024 - 12:41 by 2 other users

Hi all, I'm after a recommendation for a Router that is FTTP enabled. Can I please get some suggestions regarding the below scenario as I was only recently made aware that you don't need a modem with FTTP only a router.

Believe it or not I've been on ADSL2+ and moving to a home that is pending an FTTP connection.

I'm in a unique situation where I don't need to rely on a Wi-Fi-mesh. This home has data points in each of the bedrooms, living, rumpus, kitchen island and even in the pantry there is a point and two in the garage.

I've attached a layout of the home below for clarity to show where the FTTP connection will take place, from this spot there is a Cat-6 that takes it to the back of the house to rack #1

There is a also a Ubiquiti U6 Lite Wi-Fi 6 access point connected via PoE central to the home to service the home for light streaming.

The intend is for Rack #1 to house NVR/Dumb Switches/Router.

Layout -
Rack #1 -
Switches -

Thank you.

Computing Router

Comments

  • Duckie2hh on 14/10/2024 - 09:32

    Depends on your NBN speed?

  • Yiannakis50 on 14/10/2024 - 09:57

    Given I'm coming across from ADSL2+ I'm getting FLIP Connect to do the NBN Upgrade on the 25/10 Plan, but be good to allow a bit of future proofing if possible, so that if the price of 50/17 drops I can go across to that.

  • geekcohen on 14/10/2024 - 10:32
    +4

    Owner or Renter of the property?

    How far do you want to go? If you have the budget, go full Ubiquiti.

  • Yiannakis50 on 14/10/2024 - 10:40

    Owner, I've already investment in wired connectivity - just after value for money, no need to go for the Ferrari! a Toyota equivalent solutions should be sufficient like a Asus RT-AX59U

    • Twix on 14/10/2024 - 10:53
      +3

      Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway Ultra can handle Gigabit FTTP, is good value and it can manage your existing U6 Lite access point.

      • Yiannakis50 on 14/10/2024 - 12:59

        The Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway Ultra is reasonable at <$200 - does it really matter the switches aren't Ubiquiti? I got the TP-Link casuse they where good value I think a Ubiquiti switch is was 3x times cost

        • Twix on 14/10/2024 - 13:14
          +2

          No it doesn't matter since you are using the TP-Link as dumb switches.

          • DoctorCalculon on 14/10/2024 - 20:50
            +1

            @Twix:

            dumb switches

            "unmanaged" (being pedantic here) :P

            • Twix on 14/10/2024 - 21:12

              @DoctorCalculon: I know, I know. I wrote dumb switch to match the OP.

              The intend is for Rack #1 to house NVR/Dumb Switches/Router.

    • geekcohen on 14/10/2024 - 11:01
      +2

      Can always try Ubiquiti UniFi Cloud Gateway Max Router or Ubiquiti UniFi Dream WiFi 6 Router which will allow control over your current U6 Lite AP.

      If you are going to do it, start doing it right from the get-go. Since you already have a Ubiquiti AP, may as well start building that Eco System.

      • Twix on 14/10/2024 - 11:08
        +1

        Yeah the Gateway Max is double the price but it does have five 2.5GbE ports compared to the single 2.5GbE port on the Gateway Ultra.

        • Yiannakis50 on 14/10/2024 - 13:01

          might need to sell a kidney for the Max Router, but I do agree with doing it right the first time and the 2.5 is appealing given the devices

          • jk82 on 14/10/2024 - 13:33

            @Yiannakis50: I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say when it comes to networking you don't need to "do it right" the first time - get what will work for you at the time, for the best price.

            Wifi devices drastically reduce in price, once wifi 7 becomes the norm in a year or two, all these wifi 6 and 6e devices will massively drop in price, or you'd get a much faster system for the same price. Sure there's something to be said for the ecosystem you're in, but it sounds to me like you don't need to expand that ecosystem - just give it a new method of accessing the internet (FTTP).

            Anyway - that's just my 2c

          • Twix on 14/10/2024 - 13:48

            @Yiannakis50: For the WAN side you are not even close to the limit using 25Mbps.

            Do you have any use for 2.5G on your LAN?

            • Yiannakis50 on 14/10/2024 - 14:40

              @Twix: I honestly don't, even if I had it not sure what I would do with such transfer rates…

              However, because both Rumpus/Living have data points near the tv I would like in the future to set up a lil media player to store the kids movies and house it in the rack and be able to access their shows on either one tv or the other via something like plex.

              At the moment I have a HDD that is directly plugged into the TV but we only have one TV so not an issues..

              • Twix on 14/10/2024 - 19:45

                @Yiannakis50: The Gateway Ultra is more than enough for your use case.

                You might want to get a NAS for your media instead.

    • geekcohen on 14/10/2024 - 11:02

      Asus RT-AX59U

      Ubiquiti Gateway Max (UXG-Max) for $399 only about $60 more than the Asus on Amazon.

      • Twix on 14/10/2024 - 11:18

        RT-AX59U $339 @ Amazon isn't the best deal. RT-AX59U was $199 the other day @ MSY.

        • geekcohen on 14/10/2024 - 11:36

          Okay, so maybe about a $200 difference. I just did a quick google and the Amazon one was there.

    • ste616 on 14/10/2024 - 11:02
      +3

      I've just bought an Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway Max for my gigabit FTTP and it is working very well for me. It is a bit pricier than the Ultra, but it has 2.5 Gbit on each port, so it is a bit more future-proof.

  • skid on 14/10/2024 - 10:53
    -3

    Good wired routers are pricey. Since you seem to be technically inclined, the cheapest may be to buy a mini PC and fast NIC. You'll have a fast CPU to do the routing and plenty of memory.

  • mshanann on 14/10/2024 - 11:21
    +2

    Realistically you could get away with something like this TP-Link device for $119 and have it delivered tomorrow - TP-Link Archer - AX-55 https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B09BMXXW6N
    Plenty of gigabit ethernet ports you can connect your existing switches to, and you have wifi with WPA3 just in case.

    • Yiannakis50 on 14/10/2024 - 13:02

      Great, I'll add this to the shortlist

  • FoxJump on 14/10/2024 - 12:16

    A gl inet brume2 router.
    It has no wifi.
    So suits your wired home perfectly.

    • Yiannakis50 on 14/10/2024 - 13:02

      I'll add this to the list as well for some further research

      • FoxJump on 14/10/2024 - 13:33

        it should get extra bonus points for letting you do mobile phone tethering fail-over
        and you can ssh into it and do whatever you want !

        though, i havent yet tried to put a usb hub with a 2.5gbe ethernet dongle to see what happens and whether it works as an extra ethernet port.

  • jk82 on 14/10/2024 - 12:16

    If you only want wired (no wifi) you can get away with something like this for under $100

    https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B08MH4VLR3

    I use it on my FTTP and it works great - full gigabit speeds. I've since plugged a mesh system (deco) into one of the ports to provide wifi and it works a treat.

    Took a minute to set it up (my ISP requires username and password) but it was pretty straight forward. You should be able to plug your FTTP into the WAN socket, then a patch lead into your existing switch(es) and it'll all be up and running.

  • SBOB on 14/10/2024 - 12:28
    +1

    I moved from a basic ubiquiti setup to a TP-Link Festa setup (it's like their pro-sumer range, not as widely featured as the omada series but essentially just rebadged omada hardware for the restricted range in this line)

    No issues, and their basic router is well featured, and only $63 at the moment
    Free cloud management, handles vlans and all the same kind of features you'd find in the basic ubiquiti range.

    Festa FR205
    https://amzn.asia/d/4ns4JEC

  • sumyungguy on 14/10/2024 - 12:28

    Wifi is needed for smart home devices (lighting, speakers, cameras, power outlets, garage door opener, etc) and it's cheaper than using smart phone mobile data when you're at home; so I think you still may need it?

    • Twix on 14/10/2024 - 12:35

      They already have a Ubiquiti U6 Lite Wi-Fi 6 access point.

      • sumyungguy on 14/10/2024 - 12:38
        +1

        Thanks, I missed that.

  • Yiannakis50 on 14/10/2024 - 21:37
    +3

    Thank you all for your assistance.
    @Twix & @geekcohen I'm going to settle on the Ubiquiti.
    However @@FoxJump the brume2 did look interesting.
    Thanks again!

  • 12Sydney34 on 15/10/2024 - 08:03

    With the lowest NBN tier, you can look on FB marketplace for free or under $20 routers.
    Plenty around.

  • VW-Kombi on 15/10/2024 - 08:23
    +1

    If you’re a bit of a techie, then the UniFi range of stuff is great, and one console to rule them all, seeing as you already have one bit of kit.

    I have a cloud gateway ultra, plus 2 ap’s (you already have one), and I have a few unify cheap switches where I need more than one point.

    Then you can get into vlans and keep all the nasty stuff only able to access the internet and not you main servers.

    I need an ap at both ends of house as it’s big.

  • bamzero on 15/10/2024 - 14:33

    Until recently I was on ADSL but now flipped to fibre. House is cabled, with a centrally mounted AC-PRO and USG paired with a bridged modem.
    I'm only on 50/20 which the USG handles ok so not much has changed, just removed the modem.

    Depending what modem you have you may just be able to reconfigure it to use with FTTP for zero cost.
    If you want to start moving towards more Ubiquiti gear you can pick up a second hand USG dirt cheap on Marketplace (though probably not great if you plan on getting faster than 100mb internet), or a USG-Pro-4 for not much more.

    The price of the Gateway Ultra isn't too bad though and will have a bit more use going forward if you want to increase your speed.

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