Apple MacBook Pro 14" 36GB/TB $4599 (Was $5599) | 16" 64GB/1TB $5999 Delivered + Surcharge @ Mwave

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  • +31

    Mother of God!! That price..

    • +2

      That's the cost of blind brand loyalty I'm afraid :-)

      • +5

        Got an equivalent Windows device you could recommend?

        • Lenovo 16 OLED 120hz & AMD 8/16 32gb 1tb backlit keyboard and upgraded battery and colour I just paid $1300 delivered to my door. 38TOPS for Ai which is overkill as it usally is cloud processed anyway. 1080p steam gaming or FAA 720p and upscale for 120fps

          I have a macbook m3 and I prefer the lenovo now and the 72w battery on power saving is 18hrs easy. Gaming 4-6hrs

          • +1

            @srhardy: Can you share Lenovo model name/number please?

    • Can't be serious.

  • +19

    M4 will be released any day now. Benchmarks already out if you want to compare.

    • -4

      For MacBook Pro it will likely come just next year, especially the top spec ones.

      • +2

        There will definitely be an Oct/Nov event coming, and Apple tends to focus on Macbook Pros. Q1 events has always been more so on iPad Pros and Macbook Airs. Rumor is that they will release the M4 Macbook Pro at the end of this month and the start of next. There is no harm in waiting a month.

        • +8

          I can confirm.

        • true, but pro max is a beast on its own for editing….I bet m4 pro is no matched to m3 max…and (as always) Apple will slap $$$$$ just because it has m4…I think 14inch $4599 is great buy…I hope JB will give 5%disc…

      • +3

        There are M4 MBP leaks already. 16gb ram is standard

        • That’s what I’m talking about.

        • Judging by fanboy comments over the years, RAM doesn't matter for some devices, they're magic

          • +1

            @mrau: You probably shouldn't judge by fanboy comments then, in almost every realm!

  • +2

    Apple forcing me to jump ship to Windows11.. runs on my $500 2nd hand HP laptop..

    • Doesn’t make sense

    • +3

      Jump ship from your $500 glows under UV light laptop to what?

    • -6

      :'( for the huge price difference, not just 2nd hand Win11 but Acer Nitro 5 with 4GB GTX1650 (to attach 2+ 4K monitors), expandable/replaceable memory up to 64GB (now 16), 512gb M.2 + 2TB M.2 & 4TB SSD (easy access/replaceable), 144Hz screen for only ~$700 + cheap upgrades, With the re$t I can buy cheap Chinese EV that Apple is incapable to do (Your laptop also runs browser LLMs with the same AIintelligence at 1/12 the price ;)

  • How hot does this thing get??!! That's a ridiculous amount of power for that size!

    • +5

      I have a similar spec’ed MBP. It doesn’t get hot at all, the fans barely come on.

      But…
      * Plenty fast when I need it.
      * Battery life isn’t as good as MBP models with lower spec “Pro” CPU (probably only half as good).

    • +5

      Efficiency is a great thing. The M3 Max is a 56W CPU, under full load the entire laptop only draws 150W. On the other hand a raptor lake CPU is a 55W CPU at base clocks with a turbo draw of 157W (for just the CPU). Gaming laptops go up to 300W from the wall.

      It does get pretty noisy, reviews say 60db at full fan speed. That said, low power mode makes it silent, if I had to run a sustained workload I'd just kick it off and leave the room.

      That said, it costs $5k. For that amount of money I'd want more than just quiet.

      • but gaming laptops can actually game.. Mac can … sometimes

        • +4

          Fair point, it's a fairly decent gaming chip for the power but it's no 4080. It kicks the pants off all those 3050 laptops around, but again for $5k you'd hope so.

      • Noisy? I've never heard my M1 Pro… maybe the M3's different?

        • +1

          Almost 3 times as many transistors, numbers aren't clear but it looks about double the power consumption of the M1 Pro.

          M3 Max run in low power mode takes about a 30% processing power cut but is silent (and faster than a M2 Max in high power mode). So it's a lot of power on hand but it can be used sensibly.

    • +3

      I have a m1max 64g , whisper quiet , can game, and barely gets warm

      • I have the same thing, does your make a clicking sound when you run the GPU at 100% for a few minutes?

    • +4

      I have a M1 max w/64gb. I remember hearing the fan 2 or 3 times. To contrast, a 2018 MBP sounded like it was getting ready to take off with similar workloads.

    • I've got the M1 Max 64GB, and I can literally here it clicking like an old car as the metal expands when I run the GPU 100% for a while.

    • -4

      Very hot, it burns your budget ;)

      • +2

        Methinks one doth have an axe to grind against Apple products.

        Your comment history shows you spend most of your time giving in to your hatred of Apple - majority of your commenting habits surround Apple threads.

        Why do Andrones spend so much time talking about Apple products? Your impotent hatred is noted.

  • +18

    Can't decide between a Toyota Camry and a MacBook Pro 🤯

    • +9

      MacBook Pro is cheaper to service.

      • +10

        MacBook Pro uses less petrol.

        • +5

          MacBook Pro creates more smug though

        • +3

          MacBook Pro Ancap has 0 rating, even less if you try to accommodate 5 friends on it. It's more for Home Alone ;)

    • +1

      What a silly comparison.

  • +6

    I have a 14" M3 Max with 40-Core GPU, 64gb RAM and 2TB - it was something like $6500 via one of the edu portals. The thing is beastly.

    So these prices are decent for non edu, even with the M4 just around the corner.

    • That's awesome! How many t/s for Qwen2.5-72b??

      • Pi, at least.

  • +8

    Is this powerful enough for browsing Facebook? /s

    • +2

      Need an external GPU for that

  • I would wait till the M4 macs get released then you will see some sales for these things.

  • +1

    Oh wow what a deal!

    • +2

      who the heck negged me >:-(

      • I gave you a green internet point to balance it out, because you are correct :)

  • +3

    6 Gs for a laptop? It better fly me between work and home too

    • +2

      If you worked from home, it would.

    • I spent about $4,500 on a Pioneer laptop around 15 years ago, I wish it was anywhere near as beastly compared to the competition as the unit I bought was at the time.

  • +6

    I'm holding out for another repeat of the new-old-stock deal they had 18 months ago - $3150 for a 64GB/2TB 14" M1 Max.

    It's a long shot, but I can wait. The M1 Max still hauls ass, and I couldn't cope with less than 64GB ram nowadays (lots of VMs for development).

    • +3

      I got this is a beast

    • +3

      That deal was the greatest OzB of All Time

      • +2

        I think the 38" Dell monitor for … was it $299? (instead of $1599 regular price) that people got thanks to "Muzeeb" at Dell was the best.

        Some people on OzB got 3 of them delivered.

        I'm still salty I missed out.

    • +1

      It was hard to resist buying one of these during that deal, but I honestly just didn’t need to buy another Mac yet otherwise I would have!

  • I’m a feature film colourist, and while I’m sure these are amazing machines, 64GB of ram would be overkill for even the most gruelly of tasks. The only thing that would make me buy this is FOMO.

    • FOMO & Immersive Cinema.

      • Interesting. Is that an Apple Vision thing? I’m at the age where I’m on top of technology to a point, and that point is usually ‘wearing a thing on my head’ lol. But I can’t deny I’m intrigued.

    • +1

      Apps like After Effects can eat up 64GB RAM pretty quickly. I've got that amount on my desktop machine and when video editing/animating it's already at 50% used. The more the better for this sort of work =)

    • 64gb isn't anywhere enough for things like photogrammetry. 128gb is the minimum these days.

      But then again I'd also laugh at anyone doing that on a laptop and not a desktop…..

  • "Only Apple can do"

  • +2

    Man, just to pay that surcharge fee of $60 for this $6k macbook already enough to feed my whole family for a dinner LOL !!!

    • +4

      Your family eats MacBooks? Kewl. Can I come for dinner?

    • It looks like the best bargain when you don't buy the 40.6cm 64GB/1TB Mac Book pro & you save $6060 to feed your family for 101 nights. That's great wisdom & investment for your family :)

  • +1

    $6k for a laptop… they will sell like hot cakes. /smh

  • +5

    far too much ram- we really only need 8gb

    • You only need 8gb to neg @jv

    • You only need 640Kb

  • +2

    So people are talking about price… I bought an M1 Max 32gb, 1tb Pro. It is still going at the same pace as when I first bought it two years ago. Hasn't skipped a beat. Battery lasts forever, it doesn't have any performance problems, still getting updates. Bought it for like 5k.

    Compare that to my work HP Zbook for AT LEAST 3k. Battery lasts 2 hours off charge. Thing's fan screams like I'm (profanity) it. It's performance is abysmal.

    I talk to some coworkers about their work assigned M2's, and they love them.

    M series macbooks are just better, and they're worth the money.

    • +3

      HP's not a good example of a quality PC laptop. Admittedly MBP M1 max is a good laptop, whether it is worth 5k for the specs is another issue.

      • 32gb and 1tb in a laptop? With good battery life? and 16 inch screen realestate? 100% worth it.

        • 32gb/1TB in the PC world is nothing to write home about. google XPS 16

        • -3

          40.6cm screen is for random checking of email. I use 2x 4K monitors 69cm NON REFLECTIVE Dell + 81cm Samsung, on (work/own) Windows laptop, even on my 9y old PC (cost ~$650 for the MB/CPU/RAM) with no graphics card (24h/d battery ;)

    • -1

      Compare that to ~$200 Lenovo Duet 5 13.3'' TOUCH OLED & 15.5h battery, solid keyboard detachable cover & USI Pen2 (arriving next week for $50 ;)
      I saved to be able to afford cute EV (I hope BYD Seagull with sodium batt comes soon :)

      • +1

        That's nice. I save off not buying a car, and instead rent out an inner city apartment and tram it everywhere.

  • +3

    The units posted are a great buy IMO!

    Having been a windows user for life, I finally made the leap to Mac when the new apple silicone chips launched in 2021. The speed difference between my top of the range gaming laptop and the MBP was embarrassing. I would never go back to a windows laptop after this.

    I regularly need to edit 4K video content or 45mp photos on the road/on-location, and the high end gaming laptops were only giving me 60 minutes battery life. They were also starting to lag in Lightroom, and even half a second load time really starts to add up when you’re editing thousands of photos. I got a MBP 16” with the following config: Apple M1 Max chip with 10-core CPU, 32-core GPU and 16-core Neural Engine, 64GB unified memory, 4TB of SSD storage, 16-inch Liquid Retina XDR display for $5,838. Absolute game changer.

    I still easily get a full days battery life, even under heavy load tasks, and it hasn’t missed a beat. It’s plugged into an Ivanky FushionDock Max 1 on my desk and runs 2x 5K Apple displays and 1x 4K Eizo display. It’s flawless. Having had to upgrade laptops every 18 months or so, it’s hard not to fomo into a new MBP each time I see deals on them, but honestly mine still runs as good as new.

    If you’re considering making the leap, I can’t recommend it enough. The time saved on editing tasks alone make it worth it!

    • -4

      99.9% here are not in your niche domain. I'm waiting to do 8K editing of my S23 Ultra (& other devices later) videos but will hold for the coming AI gen integrated CPUs similar to Huawei Ascend Series for mobiles & laptops.
      PS. I create the best possible content now & will edit when 8K monitors are mainstream.

      • +4

        I would assume they aren’t. I was commenting purely as an FYI to anyone in a similar domain or for anyone wondering what the performance would be like for those sorts of tasks.

    • Christ, what a battlestation! Nice!

  • +5

    Honestly for people balking at the price of it, windows equivalents of professional laptops with equivalent performance and even half the battery life aren’t that far off. A highly specced XPS 16 is $5699 with just 1TB of storage too. You’re not going to cross-shop this with a $1200 budget gaming laptop.

    But it’s not going to be a perfect fit for everyone, I got my 14” M2 Pro MBP (12-core CPU/19-core GPU/16GB/1TB) from my previous work and it cost them around $4200. $4600 for M3 Max with 36GB RAM is a very good deal by comparison

    With my own money I bought a Razer Blade 14 (6900HX/16GB/1TB/3080Ti 16GB) for $2900 and for my hobbies like Stable Diffusion (and really anything that was designed for CUDA) it’s 4x faster than a M2 Pro despite being 3/4 of the cost.

    • Hey I'm actually comparing this exact scenario!

      Can you give me your 2c on m1 max 64gb/1tb with 32 core gpu 14 vs razer blade 14 with your exact configuration (6900hx/3080ti etc)

      Pros and cons of both and what would you recommend please?

      • +3

        You really need to want having an NVIDIA GPU for some reason, whether that is gaming or machine learning stuff.

        Otherwise the MBP just is the safer option, way better battery life, better display, Apple ecosystem, better support, doesnt require an 240W charger for full charging speed, etc.

        The one thing I hate about new MacBooks is how not durable the keyboard coatings are, after 2yrs mine is starting to wear off and if you’ve ever typed on a greasy keyboard before - that’s how it feels like except you can never wipe it off. All used MacBooks have this to some extent.

    • -3

      With Apple, you have fewer options (take it or leave it). On Windows, you have many more options: Touch, Non-Reflective, more external monitors, more configurable…

    • +1

      4x faster for what? I tested the Razer Blade for several tasks including AI tasks in Photoshop and some dedicated AI locally hosted platforms. Couldn’t come close to the M1 Max.

      • Stable diffusion as I mentioned in my comment.

        With the same text to image prompt, checkpoint and lora, it takes me over 60 seconds to generate a 512x512 pixel image, apply a face fix then use latent upscaling to get it to 1024x1024. It takes about 15 seconds on my Razer Blade for the same result both using Automatic1111. It’s so slow that I wouldn’t bother trying to train a lora on it.

        The quality and detail that you can get with AI generated images on SD far exceed what Photoshop’s AI features are capable of.

        • Yeah SD > PS in terms of AI at the moment. No arguments here! I haven’t tested SD in the scenario you have, so that’s good to know. I run most of my SD content on my desktop with a 4090 so not a fair comparison haha

    • +3

      Welcome to OzB, where the majority of members focus on pricing alone and nothing else matters (including quality of life).

  • +5

    I have an M1 Pro, 10-core, 32GB/1TB I bought on release, it's still more than I ever really need. It's been used daily for video and photo editing, 3D software/rendering, running parallels and even gaming. I can play the new Valheim Mac release very acceptably. Battery life is still extremely good. Best piece of tech I ever bought quite frankly.

    The model in the deal would be overkill for 99% of people, and a no brainer deal for people who would actually use it.

    • my thoughts exactly

  • reminder that this is for specific tasks only, no average person needs this kind of spec

    I'll repeat again that apple certified rfb M1 Pro MBP 14 16/512 that most people would be happy with are $2299 when they pop in stock, and $2539 for 16/1tb.

    m1 pro is plenty powerful, and if you need Max or Ultra m chip version and this much memory you should know why

  • +1

    The Max variant of the CPU will thermally throttle inside a 14" chassis. If you're ready to spend this much money, probably better to get the Max model in 16".

    On this review, go to this chapter: 11:25 Issues with M3 Max in MacBook Pro 14 inch

    • That is true - if your primary concern is maximum cpu/GPU performance then the 16" is the only way to go.

      However the way Apple has segmented their offering the only way to get large amounts of memory (64G or more) or support for more than 2 external displays then you need to get a Max chip.

      I've been using an M1 Max 14" for over a year now, and no regrets. At home, it's hooked up to 4 monitors and is a dev workstation. On the road it's small enough to throw in a backpack without caring too much about size/weight, and the screen is adequate for coding. I've never heard the fans turn on.

      On the other hand, If/when I upgrade to an M4 Max I'll be contemplating a 16" model for the extra screen real estate when not docked, and keeping my 14" as a portable device.

  • -1

    😂😂😂

  • Thanks op bought 3

  • Is there a market for this other than AI folks and Creators?

    If not gamers, who else would spend that much on Apple.

    • +1

      If not gamers, who else would spend that much on Apple high end laptops.

  • +1

    This is a pretty good price but it's only $267.40 (~5%) less that the AOC Education store discount: https://www.apple.com/au_edu_5000447/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pr….

    So don't jump on this for fomo reasons.

  • Lenovo 16 OLED 120hz & AMD 8/16 32gb 1tb backlit keyboard and upgraded battery and colour I just paid $1300 delivered to my door. 38TOPS for Ai which is overkill as it usally is cloud processed anyway. 1080p steam gaming or FAA 720p and upscale for 120fps

    I have a macbook m3 and I prefer the lenovo now and the 72w battery on power saving is 18hrs easy. Gaming 4-6hrs

    The M4 would be good in the Air size but for the money, can't beat lenovo

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