Stock Clearance Sale - Limited Units Remaining.
Coffee Machine Specialist Brisbane has dropped the price of the Bezzera Domus Galatea from $3300 to $1999 with shipping included Australia wide.
This seems to be the cheapest price for this espresso machine anywhere, which is rated 4.3/5 on Product Review. Super aesthetic, and makes great coffee. I don't think that Black Friday sales will even reach this low - could make for a great Christmas gift or addition to your home brew setup/cafe.
Jeez that's cracking value for the right person.
noob question: does it have pid? didn't find the answer in the link detail
Doesn't look like it being a single boiler heat exchange
just FYI you still need a good grinder, don't cheap out on the grinder or this machine will go to waste.
Single boiler?
feel like this is a step back from DB
A step back from a dual boiler like the ECM Synchronika or Profitec pro 700 perhaps, but this a big step up from a breville dual boiler. And will last for 20 years if maintained well.
Quality wise, yes. Feature wise this is a step back. BDB is packed for the price, something's gotta give.
Don't know why you got a neg, this is spot on. The Breville is an appliance, this is a proper coffee machine.
Agreed. Breville has solid features for the price (in Australia) but is pretty ugly and cheap looking.
That said, while the Bezzera boasts higher quality materials I can’t say I particularly like the look of it either!
I do enjoy the Ux of machines that use a lever to start and stop the shot, though. Better interaction than just pressing buttons or flicking little switches :)
User above commented on temp surfing… Note, there are more temp stable Hx machines around, which prioritise brew temp over steam. If you largely a black coffee drinker, a dual boiler may be overkill.
Not a dual boiler. Hx machine, meaning you'll temperature surf all morning going from espresso extraction to milk frothing.
Aside from the aesthetics, which is preference, it's a functional step down from the breville double boiler.
If you start frothing the milk before extracting the coffee it should help you reduce the temp enough to not fiddle too much.
but i also have an e61 but dual boiler with a rotary pump, i wouldn't want a hx machine if i can get a dual boiler but at this price this machine will outlive the BDB 5:1, so in some sense it will save you money.
Also id pick this over the damned oracle.. worst machine in Brevilles lineup
I have a rocket r58 and breville double boiler, the bdb has arguably cost me less to maintain. Both are problem free, but the r58 just cost more money on a regular service. Bdb spare parts are cheap and everywhere.
that is also true. replacing parts is also an option, but still very platicky compared to e61. but service fees do reduce the appeal of our e61
tbh I think the majority of the people who ends up buying HX machines with vibratory pump ends up upgrading to dual boiler with rotary pump lol.
Upgraded the lelit mara x in less than a year lol.
I still think Breville dual boiler with regular maintence is one of the best ways to go.
Parts hardly fail as long as your replacing O-rings and the new compression fittings they come with is outstanding in terms of reliability.
I have always said this as well on the BDB, the coffee and value of the BDB is unbeatable at the price you buy it for.
lol i bypassed the hx and vibratory pump when i did my research and went straight to dual and rotary.
zero regrets… i want to hold onto mine a little more but cant help feeling like i want another upgrade before i retire my upgrade path. contemplating a marzocco gs3 or decent, but i feel like i need a science degree for the decent
@maverickjohn: dont do gs3, outdated junk. They are in dire need for a fresh update. Takes ages to heat up, paddle is incredibly hard to work with. No set programming. Outdated interface, one of the most expensive for the least amount of innovations.
Sanremo you or decent would be my vote of confidence. Otherwise I would wait out for the Slayer STEAM single group that got recently revealed.
I personally really really don't like la marzocco and the sneaky shit they are pulling off in Australia.
@darkkito: I feel the gs3 is old perhaps because it was good at what it did. (same way our e61 is the same design from the mid 1960's)
But i forgot about the sanremo you, its a less technical decent. im not as attracted to the angles of the You, but the concept looks good.
@maverickjohn: me too, i personally ended up getting the rocket r nine one but I wish I waited for the steam LP
@maverickjohn: The Decent can be as simple or as complex as you want it to be. There are so many excellent presets for the machine, you will never get bored with what it can produce.
I'm in same boat, looking for domestic dual boiler to replace my breville, want some that looks nicer, can't see myself going back to HX with a 2 litre boiler.
@garage sale: Lelit bianca is a great budget option. (e61)
Lamarzocco micra is also great for aesthetics and fast heat up time. (integrated grouphead)
Profitec drive is the latest model for top of the line. Very solid build quality with more tech. (e61)
Rocket R58.
etc etc.
There are plenty of options depending on ur needs but the cheapest and tested is lelit bianca.
@darkkito: The cheapest dual boiler e61 in memory is the Expobar Minore IV https://www.jetblackespresso.com.au/shop/p/expobar-minore-iv…
Also the rocket r nine is a beauty, you shouldn't feel bad getting that.
I'm still using the La Pavoni Botticelli Specialty.
The slayer single actually looks nice.. i'll keep an eye on it and see people with a lot more money than me try it out first lol.
I have the original Breville Oracle I still use it. Don't use it for light roasts that grinder can't do specialty coffees so don't bother. get a good medium roast, and you are golden, the trick with that grinder is to clean it once a week, make sure you adjust the auto taper, always have the hopper full if you dont' it will pop like there is no tomorrow, it needs that weight of the beans to give you a decent grind. well, it will give you consistency. at least. For the most part you will never get it exactly where you want all the time, just make sure you weigh each shot. Other than that the machine is really good, the dual boilers the spread of the water, the heated head and good quality portafilter makes it a good coffee machine, just as long as you get a good grinder, because with the built in one its make average coffee still better than most cafes I have been too but not the best.
Theres no reason to go Oracle over the dual boiler in my opinion, and in your scenario you proved that point (which is my reason for hating it) that you would need a better grinder to get good coffee anyway.
Keeping beans in a hopper is a big no no, they oxidise rapidly and will have fluctuating tastes as they oxidise.
Also the heat that is generated from the boilers will affect bean quality…
Its an easy machine to use , but zero benefit if you are the slightest bit interested in making really good coffee.
I would have no probelm recommending the much cheaper and much better BDB with a good single dose grinder like the df64.
@maverickjohn: The oracle is a dual boiler unless u mean that new touch one that isn’t a. Dual boiler?
The seal on the oracle is very good and if u are having coffee every day its gone the bag in two weeks and the hopper on that machine is tiny u will get through it very quickly with in days
@kungfuman: The bes920 BDB is perfect. The Bes980 Oracle takes steps backwards with built in tamper and bean hopper to make it not worth recommending. Save money and get the BDB and a good grinder.
@maverickjohn: I have had the oracle for years it’s good for a quick on the go espresso. And that’s pretty much all I use it for. If I want a good coffee I use light roast in a good grinder
Tried putting new burrs in it? (since they are Baratza burrs now).
Also, I 3D printed a single dose hopper that replaces the standard hopper. Cant see the point of having a good machine, yet allowing beans to oxidise.
Curious - what do you think will fail in the BDB? and why don't you like the Oracle?
I've tinkered with a few hard rubbish throw out machines of various brands. The Brevilles have stupid plastic elbows that crack, but these are easily replaced with brass from eBay etc for $5. Replace O-rings with push fittings. I guess this will have a better pump, but the Ulka is pretty solid with a glass ball.
I haven't seen inside a BDB yet though, so hence the question.
I've got a Barista Express. Changed the burrs (plus elbows etc), added a speed controller to the pump for flow profiling. But the single water exit point under the shower head is rubbish (especially for single shots). The Oracle and BDB have a better ring infusion system. Same in the Gaggia. No idea why they went with a rubbish single point in the BES.
I've tried making a better infusion system with a ring of holes (blocking the single hole) with thick alfoil, and using a puck screen. Helps a bit, but it's still the biggest downfall with the Barista Express.
Tried using a seperate grinder for a while, but I'm clumsy as $hit in the morning….wasn't working out. Partner will literally end me if I use a seperate grinder again. Didn't make much difference to the BES with Baratza burrs.
So thinking an Oracle with Baratza burrs and adding the same flow profiling is the best I will get as an all in one system?
Isn't it just a BDB with a grinder built in? No interest in the auto tamp stuff.
..Or is there something I'm missing with the Oracle?
most cafes use HX machines, and they still make good coffee … at home dual boiler seems better as less thermal mass and power, I have an old raniclio that is 4L boiler HX .. except for heat up time it's great, have breville dual boiler, heats up much quicker.
Do you sell the upgraded drip trays for the BZ10?
Sick of water splashing everywhere…
Great price. Usually refurbs are around this price or more.
Walking in a house and seeing this machine would sure be a good conversation starter. Specially if they didn’t use the coffee machine often.
I have had this machine for 10 years and enjoy the coffee that comes out of it everyday. I paid $2500 back then, this price is awesome!
"Milano, Italy." ☹️
Maybe I'm a pedant but I'd prefer "Milano, Italia" or "Milan, Italy" sprawled over my multi thousand dollar coffee machine
This or two Racilio Silvia's?
Man, my neighbour works for a company that fixes these machines and was recommending them. But even at this price I can't justify upgrading from my dedica that will never freaking die. Particularly because one of the reasons if want to upgrade is for a dual boiler.
Damn it looks nice though… My wife would never forgive me.
[Edit: actually, I think he works for this exact mob…]
Refurbished Breville dual boilers pop up on Breville's eBay store for $999, with 12 months warranty. Rarely you'll get very lucky and the stock goes live when a 15/17% coupon applies, otherwise still fantastic value.
Save up another 700 and get a Barista Minore IV imo.
What in the chemistry lab is that machine!