My dad called a few sparky to install the 15A Powerpoint Supplied and Installed,
First quote: $700
Second quote: $770
Is this the normal rate now? Sounds expensive but we are among a building shortage here in Perth……….
Is $700 - $770 The Normal Going Rate to Install a 15A Powerpoint?
Aerith-Waifu on 27/09/2024 - 20:17
Last edited 29/09/2024 - 22:14 by 2 other users
Last edited 29/09/2024 - 22:14 by 2 other users
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@AccuracyAdvocate: I checked with Tesla on this one today and they say there is absolutely not recommended when using a extension lead. But again, how would they know?
@Aerith-Waifu: Of course they will not go against what the manual says. Did they give a reason? You will not get any good reason from them. Maybe explain why you think it can't be done and I'll happily respond.
Got quoted $240 and charged $275 October 2023.
Installation was about 1m below the switchboard, metal frame house was cited as the reason for the extra cost.What appliance are you connecting? I had a spa plug that was 15amp but max consumption rated as 10 amp. I bought a 15a to 10a adapter from bunnings.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/arlec-10a-to-15a-compact-single-…
My dads caravan was similar. Got an adapter cable.
At the moment he only have 1 double point in the garage at the ceiling, my dad wants to add a 15A powerpoint on the wall to charge his EV, its too dangerous for him to climb the ladder to plug and unplug each time.
Finally find someone, $380+ GST for a single 15A Power point with RCD. Much reasonable.
I suggest also asking separate prices for:
1. Change to 32 A circuit (cost of cable only extra $1 or $2 per metre)
2. Add a second 15 A outlet ( $23 + labour)
3. Add a double 10 A ($8 plus labour)It's very handy to have accessible power outlets in the garage and you want to keep one 15 A available for charging. Are you sure there isn't an accessible 10 A outlet hiding somewhere?
I've just looked and I'm "shocked" at the price of 15 A double outlets, discuss with electrician cost of 2 x single 15 A vs 1 x double 15 A.
Ok i will do that next week when he comes, whats the advantage of having the 32a circuit though?
An additional 10a double powerpoint i have been quoted $180 + gst
Ok i will do that next week when he comes, whats the advantage of having the 32a circuit though?
This has been explained days ago, in actual math by someone else at great length this thread.
Why do you always ask questions with zero research, provide insufficient information thus generating all the joke replies, but then also ignore the serious answers?
I mean, just banging the question into Google or ChatGTP gives you the answer, if it's too hard to click into the first page of this thread.
Is that cost for the extra 10 A double power point when also getting the 15 A installed, or is it just for the new 10 A outlet on its own? $180 to add on another outlet does seem high for a simple add-on.
It’s important to discuss any changes to the job well in advance. A 32 A circuit will require different materials, and the electrician might need to prepare accordingly.
Even with only a single 15 A outlet on a 32 A circuit, there are still some clear advantages over a 20 A circuit:
Reduced power losses: Over time, this can save you some money, though it's a small amount (around $3 per 10,000 km of EV driving)
(Working out: Approx 0.66% difference for 6 mm2 vs 2.5 mm2 for 10 meters of cable. 10000 km at 15 kWh/100 km = 1500 kWh. 1500 kW x $0.30 /kWh = $450. 0.66% x $450 = $2.97.)Future-proofing: You can add additional outlets later without needing to upgrade the wiring again. This can allow for:
- A 32 A outlet (7.2 kW charging if your EV supports it)
- Another 15 A outlet, letting you charge two vehicles simultaneously.
The higher quotes might be due to the way the job is being presented or perceived. It could be helpful to clarify the details clearly and ensure you're asking the right questions.
@AccuracyAdvocate: You can add
additionaloutlets later without needing to upgrade the wiring.again.The editor will be reprimanded!
@AccuracyAdvocate: Got the total bill today:
Installed 1 15A Powerpoint with RCD
Installed 1 Double powerpoint 10A
Fixed the existing powerpoint$565 total including gst
@Aerith-Waifu: Did you get an quote for a 32 A circuit?
What was wrong with the existing power point? First I've heard of this problem.
For reference, here are a couple of links that explain pricing further, Perth would be relevant:
https://www.cowleyelectrical.com.au/south-coast-sparky-blog/…
https://www.localperthelectrician.com.au/cost-of-15-amp-powe…In the Perth link I suspect "Power point cost" should be "material costs".
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@Aerith-Waifu: Use as short as you can in order to minimise voltage drop. I would expect no issues using an extension lead rated for 10 A (for a long time all leads sold are minimum 10 A, only years ago you could get them with a lower rating.) There is no good reason not use an extension lead when you have no other convenient choice.
Also, you could just leave the mobile connector plugged in. Unless you may need to charge elsewhere.
In the US you can likely mix and match cable and outlet ratings so you need to protect people from doing stupid things. Even so, this is poor form from Tesla to place that restriction.