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Microsoft Surface Laptop 7 Copilot+ PC 13.8" Snapdragon X Plus/16GB/256GB $1709.10 (Student Disc.) Delivered @ Microsoft Store

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Somehow I was able to get the 10% student discount at the checkout and logged in to my Microsoft account which was a pleasant surprise.

All in all, I bought the Microsoft Surface Laptop 7 Copilot+ PC 13.8" Snapdragon X Plus/16GB/256GB for $1549.1 ($1,899 - $189.9 student discount - $160 AMEX cashback).

The title price should NOT include referral discount/credit, cashback (commission refunds), gift card discount, or negotiated price – mention these additional savings in the deal description only. — Targeted AmEx Statement Credit amount removed from title, Mod.

I have done some Microsoft Learning in the past which may be why I got the student discount.

It might be a long shot but worth going through the checkout and see if you get the student discount.

Additionally, I've only found out that Microsoft offers a price protection.

Price protection: Microsoft Store Price Adjustment: Valid on purchases of qualifying new or refurbished consumer and commercial physical products made at Microsoft Store and Microsoft Experience Centers in select markets for 60 days from the date product is received. Eligible Retailer Price Adjustment: Valid on purchases of qualifying new consumer physical products from Microsoft Store and Microsoft Experience Centers in select markets for 60 days from the date product is received. Excludes commercial and refurbished products. Limit 1 price adjustment total per product. Excludes Surface Hub, HoloLens, and Windows DevKit. See here for full terms and full list of eligible retailers.

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  • Can we pay with 2 cards? Thanks

    • I didn't see the option to do that.

    • +1

      I did this years ago for an XSX by purchasing gift cards across 2 AmEx cards and redeeming. Worked then but not sure if it still does.

      • +1

        Ah! Someone in my AMEX post wrote that giftcards purchase worked actually.

        https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/863592

        Too bad I only have 1 Amex…

        • They block giftcards over certain amount you be an pay with part giftcards and part card
          I suggest you call them to do the transaction

  • Any tech geek able to tell if this is a good laptop for mostly multiple tabs being open and for use in real estate industry or any other better options. Cheers

    • +11

      Excellent if you mostly just use your web browser and MS Office apps. Runs super quiet and cool, battery life lasts all day with plenty left in the tank.

      There are some compatibility issues with some more niche or legacy apps, which is to be expected for a first generation product on a new architecture. However, having been a hesitant macOS user since the M1 came out, I'm glad to be back on Windows with the Snapdragon X Plus / Elite.

      • +1

        I'm curious, why couldn't macOS keep you? For me, it was the lack of a decent clipboard.

        • There are plenty of decent clipboard apps for Mac

          • +4

            @Commodore64: Thanks for the info, but I tried two (clipy and maccy) and they're simply not as seamless as Windows' in-built solution.

            Really, the fact that I need to use a 3rd party app for a clipboard in 2024 is poor performance from Apple. Windows, ChromeOS, and Android all have clipboards, but iOS and macOS don't. It's like nobody at Apple does any data entry. Boggles the mind ¯_(ツ)_/¯

            • @besttechadvisor:

              Really, the fact that I need to use a 3rd party app for a clipboard in 2024 is poor performance from Apple.

              Its like the whole calculator app issue on iPad (although they finally addressed that just recently).

        • Without getting into a macOS vs. Windows debate, I found that it basically just came down to a few things - lack of native window snapping and management, Finder being relatively terrible vs. Explorer, Alt-Tab doesn't work quite the same on Mac as it does on Windows, MS Office (particularly Excel) functionality isn't quite the same as Windows, and then there's scrolling using a scroll wheel - it's jumpy on macOS not smooth like on Windows.

          Many of these can be fixed with a paid app, but it's not cheap when you add it all up, and it's difficult for a 3rd party app to have the same level of integration as native features.

          • @p1 ama: Yeah, that's the weird thing about macOS - you need paid apps for functionality that's simply built straight into Windows. And most of those payments are ongoing subscriptions these days, like this one: https://pasteapp.io/pricing

            I've had 3 MacBook's (1 x Pro, 2 x Air) in the paste 10 years, but I always end up selling them.

            The problem with Windows laptops is the battery life…

      • +3

        There are some compatibility issues with some more niche or legacy apps

        Yeah - ARM not totally supported, but imagine this will improve in time.

        Swapped the SSD for one of these beasts. So fast.

        Comes with Gorilla Glass 5, but anyone found a decent 15" 9H screen protector?

      • -6

        When Microsoft enable the spyware, that’ll impact battery life. Taking screenshots every few seconds, compressing, indexing, storage, AI, etc.

        I’m the opposite, bought my first Macbook recently and love how the user interface is so intuitive and hasn’t changed much in years so I can get my work done without trying to figure out new interfaces or dialogues. That seems incessant in the Microsoft world. Plus all the nags, popups, notifications. But each to their own.

        • +1

          the user interface is so intuitive and hasn’t changed much in years

          How has the Windows interface changed in the past few years? It's arguably exactly the same interface as Windows 95 from 30 years ago.

          Plus all the nags, popups, notifications. But each to their own.

          What pop-ups are you referring to? I use both macOS and Windows on a daily basis and have not noticed any one OS having more pop-ups and the other (realistically, they both have pop-ups when required).

          • -1

            @p1 ama: (Sorry for my apparent grumpiness on the following, it brings up bad experiences :) ).
            The Windows interface has changed heaps, and is only recognisable from Win95 because the UI is arranged with application 'windows' and a taskbar at the bottom. What I'm referring to is the constant changes from Microsoft for no seeming benefit. Like:
            * The recent changes to Save As dialogues in Office. The one that has all the recent locations and so on which don't seem to be actually recent, and you need to click on 'browse' to see the old, workable, directory browser.
            * The change of the control panel to the newer view which is less useful than the old control panel. Old control panel widgets are accessible by the "more options" or "advanced" links at the bottom of the new windows.
            * Change to a flat "UX" interface where scrollbars are disappeared, buttons don't look like buttons unless you hover over them, etc.
            * The change to the Ribbon interface (I do like this, however but there wasn't anything wrong with the old interface).
            * The new start menu in Win 11 (after the new one in Win 7) which no longer lists all your installed software but just has pinned and recommended ones (how does Windows/Microsoft know what is recommended for me?), plus ads.
            * Ads they've added to the start menu.
            * Default widgets like weather, news and other cruft in the task bar.
            * Notifications which is always full of cruft like the last Windows Defender scan results and what the latest news headlines are.
            * Windows Updates (oh how I love waking up my PC in the morning to find it's forcefully restarted during the night and I've lost command line windows, Notepad windows, etc that don't magically autosave).
            * All the switching of default ways of doing things to "new" ways like saving to Onedrive.
            * Teams, oh I mean New Teams (which was worse than the old Teams). Outlook has an obnoxious widget at the top that says "Try the New Outlook".
            * The yellow bars that come up at the top in Word or other Microsoft software that say "allow notifications" or "allow X so you can get the best experience".
            * The need to create a Microsoft account to install Windows, or Office, or to use them. Not necessary but they make it hard not to.
            * Online services like Shareopint, man that was an absolute POS to use until recently, now it's workable at least. But I'm logged out about 10 times a day, probably because I use Firefox with some privacy settings enabled and they want me to use Edge. Online Office is not too bad actually. I guess they're focussing on that and future editions of PC Office will be webapps running locally, with the same codebase.

            I could go on a lot longer but my point is, there's so much cruft, nags, time wasting bits and pieces, changes to privacy, defaults, UI, widgets, ads, etc in Windows and Microsoft products. It's an impediment to getting work done. My recent purchase of a Macbook was the first time I'd used MacOS since my wife's old white Macbook from 2008, and the UI works almost exactly the same. It doesn't nag me to do things, it doesn't have ads, it doesn't have popups that say "try this" "try that", "give feedback". It doesn't force updates on me, or notify me about virus scans or show me news, weather, etc. It's not perfect but I find it feels like a more quiet and serene OS to use. I also use Linux quite a lot, that's similar. It's made by people who don't have commercial interests to on-sell you to other bits of software or cloud services, so it gives you an OS, a UI and lets you do what you want to do without cruft.

            • +1

              @GeneralSkunk: I'm not particularly interested in getting into a macOS vs. Windows debate - at the end of the day, you should choose whichever OS suits you.

              However, I'm just pretty baffled about some of the stuff you're referring to - like I've actually gone through and checked your points, and I'm not sure if I'm delusional or you are:

              • The recent changes to Save As dialogues in Office. The one that has all the recent locations and so on which don't seem to be actually recent, and you need to click on 'browse' to see the old, workable, directory browser.

              This is also how it works in the Office apps in macOS as well. You also need to click on "Browse" to bring up the dialogue box to see other locations.

              • The change of the control panel to the newer view which is less useful than the old control panel. Old control panel widgets are accessible by the "more options" or "advanced" links at the bottom of the new windows.

              Yes, agreed. However, let's not pretend like macOS hasn't literally just majorly changed their equivalent "settings" app in the last (or perhaps the one before the last) version of macOS. It now looks similar to an iPad / iPhone settings menu, as opposed to what it used to look like in macOS.

              • Change to a flat "UX" interface where scrollbars are disappeared, buttons don't look like buttons unless you hover over them, etc.

              Sure, but this has also been a change in macOS. For whatever reason, design more broadly has moved away from curves and layers towards straight lines and flat designs. This is true of the UI in Windows, macOS, iOS…etc.

              • The change to the Ribbon interface (I do like this, however but there wasn't anything wrong with the old interface).

              Office apps on macOS also use the ribbon.

              • Ads they've added to the start menu.

              I just looked at my Start menu, I don't see any ads?

              • Default widgets like weather, news and other cruft in the task bar.

              macOS also has weather, news and other pre-installed apps and widgets (appearing on the right hand side widgets bar) by default.

              • Notifications which is always full of cruft like the last Windows Defender scan results and what the latest news headlines are.

              You can turn them off. macOS notifications have equally useless ones.

              • Windows Updates (oh how I love waking up my PC in the morning to find it's forcefully restarted during the night and I've lost command line windows, Notepad windows, etc that don't magically autosave).

              macOS also force restarts during down-time to update itself.

              • All the switching of default ways of doing things to "new" ways like saving to Onedrive.

              And how is OneDrive different from what Apple does with iCloud?

              • Teams, oh I mean New Teams (which was worse than the old Teams). Outlook has an obnoxious widget at the top that says "Try the New Outlook".

              The "new" Teams and Outlook are also being rolled out on macOS. So how is this a Windows thing?

              • The yellow bars that come up at the top in Word or other Microsoft software that say "allow notifications" or "allow X so you can get the best experience".

              No idea what you're talking about.

              • The need to create a Microsoft account to install Windows, or Office, or to use them. Not necessary but they make it hard not to.

              The need to create a Microsoft account to install Windows is "equivalent" to the need to create an iCloud account to install macOS. Not required, but you're pushed in that direction, and yes, as you say "makes it harder". Let's not pretend like macOS is any different.

              • Online services like Shareopint, man that was an absolute POS to use until recently, now it's workable at least. But I'm logged out about 10 times a day, probably because I use Firefox with some privacy settings enabled and they want me to use Edge. Online Office is not too bad actually. I guess they're focussing on that and future editions of PC Office will be webapps running locally, with the same codebase.

              What does this have to do with Windows?

              • @p1 ama: I disagree with you on most of your points but I don't have time to sit here debating them with you. But you said at the start you weren't interested in a MacOS vs Windows debate but you sure went for it with quoting every point and responding individually. You seemed to have missed my point as well, I wasn't actually directly comparing Windows to MacOS, I was complaining about everything Microsoft, including Office for Mac.

                • @GeneralSkunk:

                  I disagree with you on most of your points but I don't have time to sit here debating them with you.

                  Well none of what I said was an opinion, so you are denying reality if you "disagree".

                  But you said at the start you weren't interested in a MacOS vs Windows debate but you sure went for it with quoting every point and responding individually.

                  I'm not engaging in a debate around which OS is preferable - if I were to do that, we could break down different metrics that people look for in an OS and objectively see which OS does better in those metrics.

                  I'm simply responding factually to things you are saying that are not true. That's not a debate, it's correcting untrue facts.

                  You seemed to have missed my point as well, I wasn't actually directly comparing Windows to MacOS, I was complaining about everything Microsoft, including Office for Mac.

                  Well if your debate is about all of Microsoft's products, then we should also compare AWS and Azure, C# and Java, Visual Studio and Eclipse, Xbox and Playstation…etc., right?

                  This was specifically a discussion around a Windows vs. macOS computer, i.e. a direct comparison of Windows to macOS.

  • +1

    I bought this exact device as soon as it was released a couple of months ago and damn, it's reliable and snappy, I'm very impressed with Surface and Windows 11 on Snapdragon architecture - they have come a long way.
    I couldn't be happier with my purchase.

  • +1

    FMPOV, the only pro of this model is the long battery life thanks to arm chips. But now the fresh Luna Lake chips have even lower energy consumption. I watched some benchmarks this morning, the consumption of practical usage (MS Office + browsing in 10 plus tabs + chatting apps + coding etc.) is around 5-6 watts, which is very comparable compared to the m3 mac's 3-4 watts. In short, you can expect a 7-10 hours bl if you have a 50 wh battery. ( in fact, you can expect more batteries as the llk chip integrates the memory on its BGA, so there is more room for other components)

    There are many things to say about the cons. The arm chip is still not fully optimised in Windows. Some applications cause real headaches when you use them for a living. You could not expect a full Windows experience in this model. Also, its performance is not as crazy as mac's m series chips.

    I personally would wait till a Windows version SP with an llk chip is installed.

  • +3

    Have one of these as well, its a fantastic laptop, battery life far exceeds my expectations. I changed the SSD to a 2TB for $160 and it worked seemelssly. I'm waiting for google drive to come out later this year and it will do everything i want it to for normal laptop use!

    • Which SSD did you get?

    • Think I'll move from google drive to onedrive because of this.

  • Any reason why the dune colour can't be ordered in 15inch screen size ?

  • Does this price inclues the color Dune?

  • Has anyone managed to use the Amex deal to get discount gift cards to get this deal?

    I'm keen on the laptop, and my friend and I both have the targetted Amex offer, so we could technically buy $800 of gift cards each so that I can use them to get the SL7 for as cheap as possible.

    My only concern is that the gift cards seem to have a maximum amount of $100 each, which may mean we end up getting 16-17 gift cards. I am worried their checkout system won't like that many cards, then I'm stuck with the cards that I have no use for.

    Any experience/feedback would be appreciated!

  • +1

    @IceCreamBandit I got a laptop for $1899 and got $100*8 gift cards and then spent the rest on the other Amex I have - you will have to contact support and they have to process the transaction for you - add them to your bucket - make sure CC is added to your account - it’s not straightforward but the CC girl was very helpful - hope this helps

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