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Is this good for PS5 upgrade with a heat sink separately bought?
I saw this thread on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/playstation/comments/vhq6nl/western…
Lots of those people have no problem with the drive in their ps5 even without a heatsink
I have it on my NAS. temperature was so high not substantible without a heatsink
@Homr: Yup.
The individual components are rated to 105c, and WD rates the drive as a whole at 85C; I rarely see mine peak 72c.
The only reason a heatspreader is good, is that the controller likes to be cool, and the storage likes to be warm; so normalising the temperature across the drive with a Graphene/metal sticker or such, is 'nice' but certainly not necessary.
@kawara888: Thats strange. Mine doesn't get beyond 75c; still 10c of headroom within the official rated temps.
DRAM less SSD
Not sure how long you've been out of the game, but that's not really relevant anymore, given HMB support post NVME 1.2. For most uses, unless we're talking write-heavy niche apps, it will make zero difference.
Your average browser or gamer sees no benefit to DRAM.
What about for main windows drive?
DRAM is for when you are writing heavily on the drive, using a DRAMless drive on Windows is no different than using a DRAMless drive as your storage drive for your p0rn. That is, if its used to read data 90% of the time.
When i say write heavy, we are talking gigabytes and constantly. So a good example is, if you are editing lage videos all day as part of your job, then a DRAMless drive would be bad for this case.
So yeah if you are just using your OS like a normal user/gamer than DRAMless drives are fine for OS boot drives. Unless you are spefically using your boot drive again, for heavy write operations, then its fine.
@bogak: Thanks, that's good to know. So will this 2tb version be good as the only windows drive on my laptop?
@Homr: If you're not planning on dumping masses of bulk files (like offloading 512GB of 4K video, then trying to edit it) in short time frames yep, absolutely.
You can still use it for the above scenario, but expect slowdowns to roughly 1x~2 SATA speed (which still isn't bad).
Or simply give it a literal minute or so of not writing bulk new files, to let it finish writing it's pSLC\HMB to the TLC, and you're back at full speed again.
@bogak: Thank you for that information - really easy to understand and apply to the right use case :)
In my situ, I do a lot of photo editing (not as intensive as videos, but more read/write than standard) so will hold out for something with DRAM - BUT hopefully your comment will guide others who don't have that use case to buy something that suits them and save money on not overbuying!
@bogak: Will it make a noticeable difference if I use large Photoshop files and use the SSD as the main destination for photoshop scratch disk?
It's a bit confusing as scratch means to be the second choice if not enough RAM is not available, but if that's the case, what's the benefit that HMB taking a part of the RAM?
The same might also apply to windows page file.
There is a bit more to DRAMless SSDs. It's not really just the DRAMless that's the only difference. Most of them use a more cost effective controller and limit the max channels to 4 (instead of 8). However, unless you have server like workload or every ms counts, SN770 is most likely an overkill already in general usage.
SN770 2TB has a very aggressive dynamic SLC cache. That also has pros and cons. Most people probably like it that way, unless you do write a lot of data in a short time frame very often. Due to its aggressive SLC cache, assuming you don't fill the SSD over 80%, and your video files are not 500GB each, you will find SN770 aggressive SLC cache decent for video editing.
Bear in mind that the internal SSDs in both XBox Series X and PS5 are DRAMless SSDs.
Agreed, no for me aswell
The 1TB slows down to 560MB/s when a sustained right has reached around 377GB. Without looking at reviews we can assume it's double in the 2TB.
That's really not a deal breaker compared to others that have much smaller pSLC cache or slow down to HDD or worse speeds when it's writing directly to the NAND flash.
I've got 2 in my SFF, and that's around the top speed I get moving between drives. Controller limit?
DRAM on SSD seems to be a hot topic, I like DRAM because not all my drives are on windows, and some end up in external cases. For the write scenarios, some employ SLC. I have some with without DRAM. Think it comes down to your application.
PCIe gen 4 x4 DRAM SSDs also need / rely heavily on SLC cache. In fact, more so than DRAMless SSDs. Most SSD makers hold back DRAMless SSDs SLC cache top speed to entice people to buy DRAM SSDs. In cases where the DRAMless SSD doesn't hold back the SLC cache max bandwidth (i.e. NM790), its max sequential write performance is just as impressive as DRAM SSDs.
This for seperate drive for MSFS24?
waiting for some unbeatable 4TB NVMe drive deals…. and the toothfairy
On the lookout for a 2TB SSD for my PS5 - any other recommendations aside from this one? A bit conscious of the budget and don't mind slightly longer load times if it means saving ~50 dollars
What is the budget? What size ssd?
Budget is about 150 to 200 that can be used with a PS5 (I understand heatsinks are being sold at 15 to 20 dollars separately) so just having the SSD itself is fine and I'll add for the heatsink
Amazon has the 2TB fanxiang S880 without heatsink for $189.88 before using $35 coupon promo on product page bringing price down to $155.88. Otherwise generally more well known brands will be over $200 for 2TB such as the WD Sn850x with heatsink for $234 also on Amazon. Sony recommends a ssd min 5,500mb read and a heatsink.
@User50301: I've seen from above post that some people have gotten it to work without a heatsink (at your own risk of course) - any comment on this one below? Seems like an ok price with slightly slower read/write
https://www.centrecom.com.au/crucial-p3-plus-2tb-pcie-m2-228…
@Jty05: Crucial P3 does not meet or exceed Sony's recommended read 5,500mb speed as it only reaches 5,000mb read. May technically work now but no guarantee on future games and is at your own risk. Also in the end the crucial is more expensive at $165 and has extra shipping cost added unless registered with centrecom over the 2TB fanxiang S880 from Amazon for $154.88 after coupon which is certified for PS5 and has a read of 7,300 and free shipping. Both come with 5yr warranty and also need a heatsink for added piece of mind for cooling, as ssd can get hot especially under sustained gameplay sessions and buying a separate heatsink is not expensive and can be easily purchased from many places such eBay, amazon or AliExpress etc. for around $10 or more. Otherwise more popular brands for 2TB and heatsink will likely cost over $200 unless on a sale.
Would this be good for my boot drive (just for gaming PC)
Yes.
Cool, thanks
I ran 2x of these on my old Alienware laptop, ran great.
My Frankenstein PC now has a WD HDD+NVME SSD, Crucial SATA SSD, Samsung NVME + SATA SSD lol. Thanks ozbargain. (Accumulated from 2016 days)
Yeah I went for the 2tb one. Shipped from Germany - local prices are a lot higher…
Thoughts on using this as an external ssd? And anyone experience warranty isssues needing to send back to Amazon DE?
I installed the WD Black SN770 1TB in my QNAP TS-664-4G almost a year ago, and it's currently being used for cache acceleration. The SSD is installed without a heatsink, and the drive temperature reported by the NAS usually hovers around 50°C. There's an alarm set at 75°C, but it has never been triggered, so overheating hasn't been a concern for me so far.
I'm curious whether adding another 1TB SSD and switching from cache acceleration to Qtier in RAID 1 could help with the loud vibrating noise I've been experiencing from my two WD Red HDDs. I've read on another forum that it might also be possible to move the OS to the SSD, which could help reduce the constant buzzing sound from the HDDs. Has anyone tried this setup, and would you recommend it as a solution for noise reduction?
i'm on the same boat with QNAP, unfortunately only upgraded with M2 card after original booting up with HDDs. Can't move the OS now without significant trouble but i've moved most apps to it where it is allowed.
my set up is 2x 256 SSD's for data and 2x 512 SSD's for cache accelation. Each SSD pair is identical (bought them second hand on marketplace) and set up in RAID1.
Out of curiosity, what QNAP model are you using? My TS-664-4G can only accept 2 SSD drives, so I’m wondering if you have a model with more capacity for SSDs.
Also, is moving the OS from HDD to SSD really such a complicated task? I’ve read about it being possible, but I'd like to understand if it's worth the effort given your experience.
TS864eu (rackmount), added in extra 4G ram and QM2 card for 4x NVMe SSD.
I haven't moved the OS myself, didn't think it is worth it for my use as long as the app I heavily use (Plex) is in the SSD.
DRAM less SSD, thats a no from me sorry