Gumtree Idiots Seriously

So I like to use Gumtree to buy and sell and sometimes find things you can't find on eBay or Facebook but more and more I've been dealing with so many people listing things that are either fake or the photos do not match the actual item or the phone model is not the same as they are actually selling.

So are people seriously that silly that they can't take photos of the item they own or do they not take a minute to see what the model number is. Many items advertised the photos do not match or the person doesn't even know what they have.

The other issue is that half of the people do not respond or if they do it takes them a day to reply? I'm not sure why as I get email every time I get a msg on Gumtree.

Also the worst are the ones who are not even prepared to negotiate. Everyone knows when you sell something you are always supposed to negotiate.

Nobody ever buys anything for the exact price listed unless it's the steal of the year please negotiate even slightly or be prepared to wait weeks. I usually have money ready to go and ready to buy something that day no waste of time.

I know when I sell anything I will take multiple photos of the item and list a bunch of specifics so there's no possible mistake being made and to not waste time. The other one is the people who put up one photo and one line like "car for sale" so very lazy.

I hope I'm not the only one frustrated with these people.

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            • @idonotknowwhy: Sorry just saw your message. If it's alright with you, I can deliver now just before 2am for $200 and some pills and brownies for reasonable. Yo ma bro shoot me some disco biscuits.

  • +3

    I hate when somone sends their mobile number and says 'call me'.

    • +10

      I don't even call my wife unless I really have to. There's no way I'm calling some FBMP flog about a $50 item.

  • +6

    I hate it when potential buyers first message is "best price?"
    I tell them they should make an offer first

    • +3

      The best price is the one you listed it at.

    • +4

      the best price is where I get 20% more than what I am asking.

    • +4

      Yeah, that one's easy - "What's your best offer?"

  • +11

    Sold a fridge on Gumtree. In the ad I said strictly no discounts, price as is. Some guy shows up with his daughter and a trailer and sure enough he was like $20 short in cash. Made him empty out his coin tray in his car, still $1.40 short but I just let him have the discount. He said he needed the fridge for his daughter starting uni.

    • +1

      In the ad I said strictly no discounts

      but I just let him have the discount

      And that is why people will negotiate when ads so "no discounts".

    • +3

      things that i would have done.

      • should of taken the door off to compensate for the $20 less.
      • point them in the direction of the closest ATM and they can come back with the extra money
      • add an extra $20 on top for wasting my time.
    • +2

      If it's a genuine oversight (which I doubt is legit) then that is one thing, it's when a price has been agreed and they turn up and try to haggle that I find irritating.

      • +4

        When you turn up with a trailer and your daughter, you're pretty much not in a haggling position.

        • Like that guy here recently who took his neurodiverse son to a car dealership?

          • +1

            @MS Paint: I missed that one, but it sounds exactly like that. Bring your neurodiverse son and you're committed to sticker price, absolutely.

      • Happened to my wife too. guy shows up for a large item and tries to drop $50 off the price. GTFOH

    • He doesn’t have a bank account connected to an app?

      • This was a little before PayID was common.

        • Ahh

  • +2

    I like getting an email when there is a message as I am not sitting watching the gumtree messages all day.

    Some of the best bargains I have bought have been terrible ads, one grainy photo with no description, due to the person not actually knowing the value of what they are selling

    I get annoyed when
    - people ask questions about an item, when the information is clearly mentioned in the ad, eg size, location, model no.
    - you agree on a price and then they show up and try to renegotiate. Even worse are people who buy on ebay and then try to negotiate afterwards when they pick up even though they have already committed to buy
    - people arrange a time to come and then don't show up. How hard is it to send a message saying they changed their mind?
    - you agree to buy an item and arrange a pickup time, Then they message you a bit laterto say they sold it to someone else as "they showed up first".
    - you agree to sell an item to someone and arrange a pickup time. Someone else contacts you, you tell them it is sold pending pickup and you will get back to them if it falls through. They then get aggressive and demand to buy it and come and pick it up "now" before the other person

    • -2
      • you agree to sell an item to someone and arrange a pickup time. Someone else contacts you, you tell them it is sold pending pickup and you will get back to them if it falls through. They then get aggressive and demand to buy it and come and pick it up "now" before the other person

      I have a rule - first at my door with the correct amount of cash gets it. I don't care if you promise on your nanna's grave you'll be there tomorrow as the item is your dying childs dream item, if someone else shows up today then I'm selling it to that person.

      • -5

        @altomic exactly I agree. So many times an older person will make that deal and they are like this person told me they will come in a week so I have to stick by it. I explain to them that you can't trust the word of any random online and not to just wait days to hope they even keep their word as 90% of the time the person will change their mind and then they have lost a sale.

        Usually when I'm buying I have the cash and I'm looking to buy that day not a week later.

        As a seller you don't owe anybody anything

        • +8

          As a seller you don't owe anybody anything

          Yet you're complaining sellers dont respond immediately and negotiate?

          The other issue is that half of the people do not respond or if they do it takes them a day to reply? I'm not sure why as I get email every time I get a msg on Gumtree.

          Also the worst are the ones who are not even prepared to negotiate. Everyone knows when you sell something you are always supposed to negotiate.

  • +6

    Everyone knows when you sell something you are always supposed to negotiate.

    Nope - I list things at a fair price and take that price. What gets me is people offering less because "I have cash today"

    • +2

      To be honest mate, I have done that too and it’s worked out to be quite effective, so far.

    • +3

      This is probably OP.

      Sees an item for $200, comes in and says "$50 cash today mate" and then posts here about it.

  • +1

    My motto is always ask. If you don't ask you never know. Many times I've seen someone say this is the best price but because they haven't sold the item in weeks and you send a message and they do eventually negotiate, so you have to at least ask worst they can day is no.

    • +14

      Asking is fine but getting mad because the seller didn’t budge exposes a level of entitlement.

    • +4

      My motto is always ask. If you don't ask you never know.

      And you never know what you might be missing out on, just by being an unfriendly buyer.

      I've been told by a seller that they decided to sell to me purely because I didn't come across as a (profanity) like other buyers. I've had some really good, interesting chats with other sellers- this applies especially to items that are hobbyist in nature as you've got something in common and you might get new insider info.

      I've sold items without listing all the extras they come with because the extras can cause too many questions. If the buy seems decent, I'll give them the extras. If they are annoying, I've kept them.

      When I was looking at property, two sellers who were clearing house gave me tours of their places on the spot outside of REA showing times so I got to see the properties before they were prettied up for photos (didn't buy either place, they were not suitable for various reasons but they were in the right areas and worth checking out).

      So sure, you can negotiate and maybe save $20 or $50 here or there, but it's not without cost.

      Years ago someone turned up at the door for some furniture I was selling, he tried to start bargaining and wouldn't stop until I explained to him "this might be acceptable in your culture, but it doesn't work like that here and if you keep bargaining after we've already agreed to a price you're going to have to leave". He shut up and paid… but as he had brought his wife and kids to the transaction (fck knows why) he made himself look like an idiot in front of his entire family.

      • LOL I wonder if I sold something to you. I sold a camera lens to someone for that exact reason, had 4 people interested bur 3 of them were being aholes so I sold to the 4th for less of a price than 2 of them were offering as their demands were getting rediculous.

        • Are you sure all 4 of them weren't friends/relatives trying to get it cheap for their mate ? Happens so often.

          • @SuperLate: nah just people that wanted excessively detailed information, specific photos (of which I had many already on listing), a chance to come and view it before committing to purchase etc. It was an expensive lens but it was in mint condition priced well below market value and they would get to inspect on pickup and was priced like that specifically to avoid those issues.

  • +6

    Complains about gumtree idiots

    Gets pissed when people won't accept his probably lowball offers on non-negotiable items.

    Checks out.

  • +1

    The gumtree ads i get annoyed with the ones with a single bad photo. It only takes a minute to take a few more photos and from a few different angles.

    I always put in as many photos as i can showing the faults and then accurately describe it. That way im not wasting their time or mine coming to inspect it.

    • +1

      I lol when people take photos of the item on their computer screen. WTF is up there?

      Or accidentally upload a selfie of themselves trying to work out their phone camera.

    • +1

      This is often where you find the best buys.

  • +12

    Sorry OP, you are part of the problem.

  • +5

    If someone is selling a $200 item unused for $150 that is still sellin $200 in the shop….

    Im not haggling, its already a deal.. Thats the Australian way.

    • -1

      Convert that $50 saving in to a slab. That's the Australian way.

    • +1

      Is 25% off worth losing any (easy) warranty? Especially when shops will have sales every now and then.
      For anything electrical i'd say not.

      • As long as you get the receipt you’ve got warranty.

        • +1

          Legally yes, but depends where the seller bought it from if it will be easy. Good luck returning something to Amazon if you didn't buy it there.

        • The BambuLabs 3D printers that OzBargain regularly gets excited about are very explicit about the warranty not transferring to a second owner.

          And it's a sufficiently complex product with specialist parts that you'd really want a warranty or a really sizeable discount to forgo the warranty.

  • +4

    So many crap sellers
    So many crap buyers
    My rubbish bin gets way too much action because I just can’t be fkd dealing with fools who have no idea nor care about what they’re buying or selling, are rude, unresponsive, unreasonable, untrustworthy. I don’t remember having anywhere near these issues back in the day of newspaper adverts and landline phone communication, and when you do meet the buyer/seller in-person, they’re usually fine. So maybe it’s mostly the impersonal nature of the media (internet) we use

    • My man, I agree 100% bin always gets filled with stuff.
      What I do now is tell a mate I want $xxx for XYZ, they say it's worth heaps more.
      So I let them sell it for what they think it's worth and then pay me $xxx

      I don't deal with anyone and they make money. Win win

      Had one mate make $2000 for selling a camper van for me. Lowest was a neighbour make $100 for selling a set of rims

    • +1

      I don’t remember having anywhere near these issues back in the day of newspaper adverts and landline phone communication

      The population was half then what it is now, and the working class were wealthier than today.
      One day we'll be no different to china or india, a cutthroat dog-eat-dog hell hole.

  • -1

    I don't negotiate when I know what I have.

    I've listed a great quality couch for $150 and even then you have losers negotiate for no reason. Be patient and someone eventually appreciates it and buys it.

    But you have to price right, don't be greedy.

    If not then I just chuck it out with the trash. Not worth your time otherwise and definately won't adding to the cycle of penny pickers.

    • +3

      If you don’t like their offer, just say no.

      No point getting offended by it and letting it ruin your day.

  • +2

    Everyone knows when you sell something you are always supposed to negotiate.

    That is, IMHO, a cultural thing, to haggle, to "negotiate" before committing.

    For others, is settings a fix thoughtful price and that is it.

  • I can see why ppl 'use' Gumtree', but I have no idea why anyone would like to use it. It's a pus filled sewer when it comes to scammers,trolls and the 'dodgy'.

    • +1

      You're gonna have the same idiots where ever you go.

    • Agree… just like Marketplace, car sales, bike sales, etc Ebay, Noticeboard at shops, or The good old Trading Post (i didnt know that still existed!)..

      They are all full of parasites cause there is no fear of the law.

      • -2

        Based on experience, I think GT holds a special (Olympics Gold Medal standard) place in fickwuttery. And mainly on the 'buyer' side of the street.

  • Scumtree

  • +2

    Varies.

    At the start of this year I was checking it every day for something I needed. The day I forget to check until 2 hours later, someone had listed one within a km of me, and it was sold pending pick up and picked up that day, in the rain. It was a bit item that needed to be dismantled.

    It was a good price and I didn't get something like that for a few months later on Marketplace, but further away.

    • Sometimes every day is not frequent enough, you may of missed it already and sold and disappeared already. (unless you have alerts very frequent). Sometimes you need to be just lucky to check at the right time.

      • Sometimes you need to be just lucky to check at the right time.

        Yep. I'm grateful I've been blessed to be sustainable.

  • +1

    For any free to sell websites I just set my expectations very low and assume the worst. I remind myself the advice for buying used cars, "Why would somebody sell a flawless car?".

    I've noticed there's a pattern depending on things like item condition and item category.

    For example when you shop for a brand new item (or never used item) the listing has all the information needed and the photos show off the excellent condition (ie. still in box, shiny, unmarked).

    If you are shopping in a geeky category like technology and gadgets the sellers are more cluey. eg. If you are buying a used laptop the posting will have more photos and specifications and the seller will communicate more professionally.

    My rudest experience I've encountered is negotiating on a used automotive part that was over 20 years old. The seller reminded me of the rudest owner I encountered at a small car wrecker yard.

    I guess you live and learn. Not all sellers are the same and not all are knowledgeable, respectful geeks.

    If its Facebook I always look up the seller's profile to look for any red flags (eg. violent images, psychotic posts, Donald Trump, anti-vax, anti-government, confederate flag, etc).

    For Gumtree I research if they have other items for sale and browse descriptions to see any similarities. eg. poor grammar, too cheap its a scam, no description. Its easy to spot a professional seller as they usually have multiple listings, trying to move a lot of items quick, provide good descriptions and photos. Experienced sellers are appreciative of enquiries and negotiation. First time sellers are a pain to deal with. There are sooo many first time sellers you can't educate them all so I don't bother.

    If its a singular posting from a new or recent user I just assume the worst that its likely a dud. Look for a seller with successful multiple listings and a profile that looks normal.

  • +1

    gumtree is almost dead these days, facebook ate its lunch

  • We had a listing on Gumtree, no interest whatsoever. Price had been reduced a couple of times. Because of the lack of interest I listed on Facebook for the lowest Gumtree price. Ended up with a waiting list of 12 people within a day. I don't bother with Gumtree for selling now.

    Some things I'll list with some room for negotiation - usually less popular items I'd like to get rid of quickly. Other things I know they'll sell and I don't need the money, it's just about getting something back so I'll list for what I know I'll get (because I'm a hoarder and it helps me to get rid of things, some things I sold for more than I paid). There were things I'd donate before I'd bother selling them for less than the listing price.

    Most things people paid the price without negotiating. A few things I knew would sell for the listing price I had people contact me with low ball offers or asking best price, but they sold soon after for the listing price.

    All paid cash that they either had ready to go or got out on the way.

    I had surprisingly little trouble for the amount of stuff I've sold. A lot of it was just.. Is it available, when can I pick it up? Some were really happy to have gotten the item. Generally for less than new when in as new condition - though sometimes that is more than I paid. I got some "is this available?" with no response when I said yes. One apologised for accidentally doing it when scrolling.

    If I'm buying generally speaking if I want something and it's listed for a reasonable price I won't try to negotiate. If it's higher than I'd like to pay I'll offer a lower price and if they're not willing to budge I move on, it's not a big deal and it's not my concern if it takes a bit longer for them to sell it. The buyer chooses what they're willing to buy for, the seller chooses what they're willing to sell for (which can be the list price), sometimes you meet, sometimes not.

  • +3

    I think you're one of the major things that are wrong with gumtree op, and you don't see it. No matter how fair the price is, people still want to negotiate. I don't have the time or the patience. I do a quick search to see what the average price of my item is and put it up for significantly below that, just so that I don't have to deal with lowballers.

    Edit: The other thing that really annoys me are those people who offer a significantly lower price saying they have cash. Their value proposition is that they have cash, like other people are going to buy with potatoes.

    • +1

      Edit: The other thing that really annoys me are those people who offer a significantly lower price saying they have cash. Their value proposition is that they have cash, like other people are going to buy with potatoes.

      I've had people try to trade things to me… one guy offered me a commercial-grade fairy floss machine. That honestly cracked me up.

  • +4

    I'm not Ian f'n Turpie and I've got better things to do with my time than play The New Price is Right with annoying cheapskates like you. I said the price was firm in my ad and I meant it. If it gets no interest then maybe I'll drop the price but not because you offered me 40% less than asking half an hour after the ad went up.

    As a buyer, if I think the price is reasonable, I will pay it and be happy that we both got a fair deal. What a concept, hey?

    • +4

      You might not be Ian Turpie as the seller but I'm definitely John Deeks as the buyer and I reckon you should "come on down" with the price.

      • +3

        Not on your Reg Grundies!

  • The Gumtree app stopped working on my backup phone. Facebook and Ebay still work on it. Even though Gumtree are slipping away, obviously the large number of scammers on Gumtree can all afford newer phones!

  • +5

    Everyone knows you don't pay the listed price? No, mate. I list for a reasonable price and by that I mean it's priced to sell. If it costs $300 new and I've got it listed for $100 you can (profanity) off with your offers.

  • please deliver 1000km away for free and ill pay id when you get here

  • +1

    buyer: Is the price negotiable?
    seller: Sure
    Buyer: What is your best price?
    Seller: 20% more than the listed price
    Buyer: that's not right it's meant to go down..!
    Seller: says who?

    • +1

      Buyer: What is your best price

      Love it when buyers want you to negotiate for them.!

  • +1

    I don't bother if it's a small value item and I feel the price is about right. If it's a mid to high-value item, I would ask politely if they can consider the price a bit and then offer an amount. In most cases, they counter with something in the middle.

    But assuming that negotiation for private sale is "always" the Aussie way - No it's not. It's not even an Asian way always.

  • +1

    -Cars and phones are the most annoying things to sell. Phones due to the volume of interest and cars due to the time wasters who come for a test drive.

    -Don’t be offended by lowballers, just say no thanks and don’t let it ruin your day.

    -I have never sold a single item to anyone asking for “best price?” and only a couple cheap items to the classic “Hi, is this available?”. The first message is a great indicator of how legit a prospective buyer is.

    -The most annoying timewasters are people who pretend to show genuine interest and are familiar with the item, who then ask for very specific info or photos, only to ghost you. Are they showing off their knowledge of the item? Are they role playing?

    -Most items you see are overpriced and have been sitting there for days/weeks, anything good is normally gone within minutes/hours.

    -Listing free items can attract dozens of messages, yet the 1st person it’s offered to will regularly cancel/delay/ghost. It’s some sort of game to win the offer and have no interest in following through.

  • +1

    Why do Gumtree huggers hate posting stuff? Do they all live in the outback? Asking them to post is like the greatest insult.

    • +1

      Nothing to do with Gumtree or any other marketplace, but why would I burn the mental capacity to calculate shipping and packaging costs, verify electronic transfers, then blow at least half an hour going to the post office to package something carefully when I can just type "pick up in <suburb>, cash only". Oh, then deal with the risk of having the delivery get lost or damaged.

      I've recently had someone drive halfway across Sydney to pick something up. I'd prefer to sell something cheap than to deal with the hassle of postage. Ad was up two days.

      On the other hand I've had something else up for six months before it was sold, and people asking to ship. No, I'm not going to find a box big enough to safely ship commercial IT gear, sorry. And you're probably not going to want to pay the extra $150 for Auspost + packaging + my time. Waiting for a local buyer didn't cost me anything, it just sat in the garage for longer.

      • Let's not forget their #1 grievance which is eBay fees. That really drives them mad.

  • +3

    Sellers who don't list a price and just say "offers" even better when paired with "no lowballers". Absolute smooth-brains.

  • +6

    Another nuisance is sellers who list things as FREE then write a price in the description or even worse - DM me for price.

    Always message these people and tell them you’ll take it for free.

  • Ive been buying and selling on marketplaces for 20years. Mostly good experience but I think its really gone downhill after around the covid times. Its completely flooded with scammers and flogs, its almost not even worth the effort.

    I had a business on FBM who refused to give me a meetup location for a $50 item without giving him my mobile number first (artificial grass LOL). I asked for an explaination but he couldnt give one.

  • +4

    it's not the sellers that are the problem, its your expectations, sellers do not need to do what you want them to do for you to buy from them. There is a reason they dont respond to you, and its not them that's the problem. You think people need to think a certain way, the way you want them to think. That's where you are wrong.

    The seller controls who they deal with, and if they think you are too much trouble to deal with then they dont need to deal with you. It's as simple as that.

    • +1

      this.. I've certainly ignored low ball offers or buyers that seemed a bit unhinged (multiple messages / "why you not responding bro I'm genuine" within a few hrs when I'm working). and the "best price?" you can see the listing price - that is the best price, if you have an offer, just make it instead of wasting time on the to and fro dance

  • To be expected, although I have had success through facebook marketplace and gumtree. You just have to put up with a lot of idiots and "last price" lowball morons.

  • -1

    Too many scammers on gumtree. Posted some clothings for sale, at least 4 new users contacted me immediately.

    • Never put your mob number up for starters, and use scumtree messages initially.

      Multiple scammers? Pair off the scammers mobile numbers, and give each scammer each others mob number, (via msgs) tell them the number is yours and to call you. They will cancel each other out. If you are good at maths maybe you can extend the misery?

      DISCLAIMER: Have not tried this mob number juggle fest…………… yet.

      • Mobile number is usually not the issue, but email is, for 2 reasons:

        1) They want to take it to email because their Gumtree account may get disabled at any time.

        2) To send fake officially looking payment confirmation to the email.

        Since they never intend to buy anything, the scheme is either:

        • Fake email showing over payment, ask for a refund of the difference. Sometimes can be real but fraudulent payment, will be clawback by banks.

        • Fake email saying payment is held by the bank, need to pay a refundable fee to unlock the payment.

        If you have the time, you can mess with them by replying using a burner mailbox, without mentioning any specific information or price, they have no idea what you are talking about but need to get to conversation going.

        There's a PayID one doing the round, leveraging people thinks that it is instant and safe. Got one the other day, buyer was very keen to pay and kept asking about my email, I asked him to click on "show number" to reveal my mobile which is my PayID, he insisted he needs an email to send confirmation. I said I can just check account balance, no need confirmation. The more he asks the more it sounds something is off.

      • No, i did not. All contacted via gumtree messaging platform.

  • +1

    While it's not unreasonable to negotiate, some buyers are idiotic low ballers.

    1) If you genuinely wanted an item and discount, make a realistic offer within the ball park.

    2) Don't start the conversation with "what's your best price", you need to bring something to the table to negoitate, such as "can you do a better deal if I pickup today".

    3) Don't expect a discount because you "pay cash", cash is the default payment method.

    4) Understand that sometimes there's no negotiation.

  • +3

    Hi, is this still available?

  • My missus has put up a $10 standing fan for free and she gets responses like "I'm an old lady, can you deliver it to me?" Or others wanting her to drive halfway across Sydney to deliver a free fan that you can buy for $10 at Kmart.

    She unlisted it after getting a bunch of these kinds of messages.
    Free, pickup only clearly means trying to get the seller to drive it to you.

    • +1

      How to give away stuff for free and avoid the crazies.

    • +1

      If you're on FB, check out a local swap/trade group. There's one in our area called Hard Rubbish Heroes that is great for sharing items you don't need any more amongst the local community… and because it's a local group, less likely to be nutters being nuts.

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