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All turntables are a novelty these days. Digital media is better in every way other than nostalgia.
Especially when this one has a digital output already.If you're an actual fan/hobbyist/professional of music then it's not a novelty. Digital media is more convenient, and that's what it has going for it. 'Better' is subjective and a gross overgeneralization.
Digital Media is subject to the licenses of whatever streaming service you are subscribed to. They can (and have) remove(d) music from their platforms for various reasons. No one can take physical media away from you.
Also records are a good way to support artists you care about, and make for good collectables that can increase in value as time goes on.
DJ's are also still regularly using records and turntables
Digital media is more convenient, and that's
whatone of the multitude of things it has going for itDigitalStreaming Media is subject to the licenses of whatever streaming service you are subscribed torecords are athere are various good way(s) to support artists you care about - go to their gigs, buy from their website, donate
Digital Media is subject to the licenses of whatever streaming service you are subscribed to.
Kids these days. Relying on streaming services.
Still remember the days when we were ripping lossless from CDs, and I still carry all my music on an SD card in my phone. None of this streaming BS.
I still carry all my music on an SD card
Yes, I have a 1TB MicroSD to carry music.
It's remarkable that an entire music collection, which would weigh 30kg in CDs,
can fit in the size of a finger-nail, with no discernible loss in quality.It's just getting harder to find smartphones with dual-SIM and microSD slot.
@dyziplen: Indeed, stares at CD wall.
I still have my vinyl albums too, mostly only played once before ripping onto a cassette.now of course the only way of playing those is my Hi-Fi player. Not in the car anymore.
Never had an 8 track though.But I do have my grandfather’s reel to reel with his C&W recordings.
You're mixing up digital media with streaming services.
No one can take physical media away from you.
Yes, but physical media like vinyl needs a lot more care with handling than CDs, and playing vinyl repeatedly over time, deteriorates the vinyl, because of the 'needle' introducing scratches.
With CDs, the substrate can peel off, if it gets exposed to heat as well.
I say this, as a owner of hundreds of CDs and vinyl (which I've sold the majority off in the last few years, but kept some choice ones still).
Plus, I have ZERO streaming subscriptions, ie. I don't listen to streaming music.
@whyisave: “playing vinyl repeatedly over time, deteriorates the vinyl, because of the 'needle' introducing scratches.”
Oh man I always love this argument which is a complete joke. Ive got some old records that I’ve played so much & they still sound great today. The misconception of the stylus (not a needle, don’t call it a needle as it ruins your credibility) ruining records is because people don’t replace their stylus, which over time changes from a point that looks like this “V” from new, to this “U” when it’s reached the end of its life, which then wears the record’s groves from a nice “V” shape which is how the lacquer was cut on the lathe, to a “U” shape which degrades the sound of the record.
Just replace your stylus/cartridge every 500 to 1000 hours and you won’t wreck your records.
Thanks for reading my blog lol.
The misconception of the stylus (not a needle, don’t call it a needle as it ruins your credibility) ruining records is because people don’t replace their stylus, which over time changes from a point that looks like this “V” from new, to this “U” when it’s reached the end of its life, which then wears the record’s groves from a nice “V” shape which is how the lacquer was cut on the lathe, to a “U” shape which degrades the sound of the record.
Just replace your stylus/cartridge every 500 to 1000 hours and you won’t wreck your records.
Thanks for reading my blog lol.
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You can own digital music files.
You can also digitally insert the faults that a record player produces and add them to the digital music file. If you have a digital output on this record player, the quality will then be identical.
Digital Media is subject to the licenses of whatever streaming service you are subscribed to.
TIL that CDs need licenses to work.
Somebody needs to brush up on basic terminology. This is so far beyond a rookie mistake.
You can make arguments for vinyl, "investments" arnt one of them. They're beanie babies for whatever generation we're at
You can download digital locally while still supporting artists
Digital doesn’t degrade
Digital sounds as good as new vinyl and better than old vinyl
Digital doesn’t take up physical space"Also records are a good way to support artists you care about"
No it's not a good way to support artists because a lot of the money from physical media goes to the record companies. Best way to support an artist is buy ticket to a live show and buy a shirt while you're there because the majority of money from tickets & merchandise goes to artists.
In saying all that, yes I still buy records because like you say, the streaming services will remove albums willy nilly because the streaming rights that whichever company had, expired.
In saying all that, yes I still buy records because like you say, the streaming services will remove albums willy nilly because the streaming rights that whichever company had, expired.
You could also buy CDs or access to digital downloads (that you can then make your own physical backups of if you want). That isn't an argument for vinyl over digital, that's an argument against streaming. If anything, digital makes it easier to maintain access to your music, since it's easier to back up a CD than a vinyl and you can maintain backups in multiple formats and multiple locations.
Vinyl is for novelty and personal preference, there's no other reasonable argument for it over digital that makes sense.
Edit: If you just want to listen to music, just so I don't have people saying they're DJs and vinyl is better for that or something.
@Diji: CD's are pointless because you're stuck with whatever the record company has decided on giving you, not to mention when you look for those 3 little letters on the back of your CD's that say DDD you'll understand why.
Whenever someone says "Vinyl is for novelty and personal preference, there's no other reasonable argument for it over digital that makes sense" that's how I know someone has never heard UHQR pressing on a MOFI turntable playing through a McIntosh amp because "you can't beat zeros and ones on paper bro".
When you're talking about a DTS:X or an Dolby Atmos soundtrack, sure digital is superior, but when you're talking about high quality analogue soundtrack for contemporary music, whether it's rock, classical or electronic, analogue will kill digital hands down every time and this is why DVD-A, SACD and HFPA BR have nearly all but died.
@scooba: Weirdly aggressive response, mate.
CD's are pointless because you're stuck with whatever the record company has decided on giving you
You press your own records or something?
The rest of your comment is just asserting that vinyls are superior because of reasons.
@Diji: It's only an aggressive response because you're colouring it that way.
"You press your own records or something?"
No sweetheart I don't, but why would I buy a CD with digital flies on it when I can download the digital files in FLAC's, WAV's, OGG's or any other format I desire.
Each format, whether analogue or digital has its benefit and is better suited depending on content and application.
You think I only like vinyl "because reasons" is just a cop out when you said "Vinyl is for novelty and personal preference, there's no other reasonable argument for it over digital that makes sense."Tell me again who has the "superiority complex" or are you just trolling which looks like the case?
FLAC's, WAV's, OGG's or any other format I desire.
Ok so why did you pick out CDs when I was talking about digital and not CDs?
You think I only like vinyl "because reasons" is just a cop out when you said "Vinyl is for novelty and personal preference, there's no other reasonable argument for it over digital that makes sense."
Because what you said amounts to "I think it sounds better" which is a personal preference argument, and proceeded to not engage with most of my comment.
Given how you purposely ignored the majority of what I've said, it feels more like you're the one trolling here (seriously, addressing me as "sweetheart"?). If you don't want to have a discussion, why did you reply to my comment?
@Diji: CD's are digital files on a disc, how on earth can you not see that?
But you think digital sounds better because "the zeros and ones give you better sound" is not a personal preference because it is on paper, right?
Yep, you're definitely trolling and contradictory if you don't think "you press your own records or something" isn't trolling.
Try again lol.
@scooba: Damn, is your name IMAX? Cause that's some world-class projection you got going on there. Clearly the only person trolling is you.
Yep, you're definitely trolling and contradictory if you don't think "you press your own records or something" isn't trolling.
CD's are pointless because you're stuck with whatever the record company has decided on giving youLike @Diji said, unless you "press your own records or something", you're "stuck with whatever the record company has decided on giving you", just like with CDs.
So, are you pressing your own records?
@bobbi084: "Is your name le IMAX"
Trololololololol.
C'mon man, you can do better than that.
Here you go, a CD is a disc containing digital files, like the same files that you can download, except you can download those files in better quality than what's provided on the CD, whereas you can't download the master tapes or the mother stamper that vinyl records are pressed from.
Are you pressing your own CD's because WAV's of some albums would sound great pressed to CD…..oh wait…you can't…because those files are too big so you can't press a whole album of WAV's to CD🙄.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
C'mon man, you can do better than that
Sure, but you hardly seem worth the effort.
Here you go, a CD is a disc containing digital files, like the same files that you can download, except you can download those files in better quality than what's provided on the CD
Unless it's 96/24 or 192/24 placebo bullshit (google "nyquist theorem"), then those digital files are 44.1/16, in either lossless FLAC at best, or lossy MP3/AAC at worst. Neither of which are better than CDs.
Are you pressing your own CD's because WAV's of some albums would sound great pressed to CD…..oh wait…you can't…because those files are too big so you can't press a whole album of WAV's to CD🙄.
You can absolutely do that though. CDs are simply a physical medium containing uncompressed, 44.1/16 stereo audio. WAV is that same uncompressed audio, in the form of a digital file.
Seriously, you're either trolling, or are just clueless. Maybe it's a bit of column A, bit of column B, I'm not sure. Either way, most of what you have said is just incorrect.
@bobbi084: Yeah you're right, you aren't worth the effort….but here goes.
Tell me without telling me you never heard or owned any DVD-A discs.
No pal, you can't burn an album full which is in WAV's to a 700MB CD, you'll need a single layer DVD or BD.
Try again lol.
@scooba: There's simply no universe where anyone sincere exists, is sooooooo consistently and confidently incorrect, yet somehow:
- knows about the existence of FLAC, WAV, OGG, DVD-A, SACD, 700MB CDs, and numerous other technical terms
- can use those terms in sentences without sounding like complete word saladAfter your first reply to me, I was less certain you were a simple troll, having just smidgen of hope that you were just ill-informed. Now I'm 100% sure you're just doing this for the lulz. We're done here.
CD's are digital files on a disc, how on earth can you not see that?
Ok? You're the one who was hung up on CDs. I was talking about digital in general and you for some reason latched onto singling out CDs before mentioning that you can get digital files in different formats (which I said in the first place). I'm glad we're on the same page now, though.
But you think digital sounds better because "the zeros and ones give you better sound" is not a personal preference because it is on paper, right?
Right, because one is subjective and the other is not. "Vinyl sounds better" and "I prefer the sound of vinyl" are totally different things, and I only take issue with the former.
Yep, you're definitely trolling and contradictory if you don't think "you press your own records or something" isn't trolling.
That was a snarky way of pointing out that regardless of format, you're stuck with whatever the record company (or the band, if it's from a small band via bandcamp or something) provides you. Trolling is not synonymous with being a bit cheeky.
@Diji: “One is subjective and the other is not”
Can you please get a spectrogram and put it across a FLAC source and then a UHQR pressing and post back here please?
Let’s put the debate to bed on the sound burger post….forever.
Uglahhhh.
Can you please get a spectrogram and put it across a FLAC source and then a UHQR pressing and post back here please?
I think there's enough literature that shows digital can perfectly recreate a source waveform but I'll be happy to do it if you're going to spring for the gear! :P
@Diji: Digital is far from perfect or being to recreate a source waveform perfectly, it's impossible because you always lose something in the process i.e compression etc.
Now if I'm listening to a record that's been pressed from a mother stamper, on really good gear, how much loss is there? (Is this a trick or tricked question??)
Can you rent that sh1t from some hipster trust fund kidult down there lol?
Digital is far from perfect or being to recreate a source waveform perfectly, it's impossible because you always lose something in the process i.e compression etc.
Compression is a choice that you can avoid making. Antialiasing is something you have to do but it's good enough to make aliasing imperceptible. Here's a good read.
Now if I'm listening to a record that's been pressed from a mother stamper, on really good gear, how much loss is there? (Is this a trick or tricked question??)
Vinyl records are subject to their own inconsistencies. Since they're a physical good that needs to be manufactured, they can vary within tolerances and are subject to quality control. Here, for example. And there's multiple stages from lacquer to stamper, where you're losing a little bit each time.
I also found this interesting experiment about listening preference where they find how the vinyl (cut by a lathe, rather than pressing) differs from the source.
From what I've read, theoretically digital can be "mathematically perfect", but in the real world it's good enough, while vinyl has noticeable imperfections.
@Diji: Compression can't be avoided, it's baked into tech.
Again, UHQR presses are some of the most outstanding recordings I've heard, so yes it is about quality control.
Yeah sure, they've recorded direct from the studio and cut to a lacquer on the fly and wouldn't it be nice if they could do that with decent artists and not generic top 40 garbage.
"theoretically digital can be "mathematically perfect"
See this is the problem right here, everyone who loves digital and thinks it's superior over every other format doesn't realise that music meant to be played with soul and emotion.
I've seen piano concertos played by some very well trained performers and even though they are perfect in their precision, there's zero soul or emotion (looking at you Asian performers) & it's all very robotic, whereas some of the most talented European artists have crafted their performances so well, you wouldn't even notice any imperfections.I guess that's the difference with playing a typewriter, or a piano…maybe not the greatest analogy but hey, when you practice something so repetitively and try to record it with mathematically perfect precision & playback, it loses it's heart and soul.
"Over thinking, over analysing separates the body from the mind" - Lateralus - Tool.
Compression can't be avoided, it's baked into tech.
Not necessarily, e.g., uncompressed PCM.
See this is the problem right here, everyone who loves digital and thinks it's superior over every other format doesn't realise that music meant to be played with soul and emotion.
Well at that point you're not talking about what's measurably better, you're talking about what you like more. That's all subjective and it's gonna differ between people so there's not really any debate to be had. That's different to vinyl enthusiasts who say vinyl is better quality than digital because of technical reasons. That's all I'm saying. I'm not an analog hater, I just dislike technical misinformation that some people use to justify their opinions (because for some reason in audiophile circles "I just like the sound more" is naughty to say or something?)
Like a modern Marvel movie with Disney money can afford to have the best cameras and stuff but I'd rewatch Nic Cage in Vampire's Kiss over a new Marvel movie, any day lol.
@Diji: "Uncompressed PCM"
For the love of Satan, get a grip.
Again, play a UHQR title on a solid state amp, then play the uncompressed PCM using the same gear using a DAC….wait a minute..did I just say Digital to Analog Converter….?
There's plenty to debate, playing a like a typewriter versus playing a piano is an interesting analogy. Is vinyl better because it's perfect, is digital better because a robot sat behind a desk and said "alright, let's make this mathematically perfect even though it'll sound like dog sh!t".
If you like "technical misinformation" you'd better stay out of "the circles" because what you heard versus "but it's perfect digitally, no matter how bad it sounds" won't fly, not to mention the whole "it's gotta sound better because it's digitally perfect" is "your technical preference" so your argument is moot.
Ok now I know you're trolling if you think Vampire's Kiss is better than a modern day marvel movie as they're both equally as sh!t as each other, except one is 80's slop so it must be better, right lol?
Again, play a UHQR title on a solid state amp, then play the uncompressed PCM using the same gear using a DAC….wait a minute..did I just say Digital to Analog Converter….?
Are you claiming that you can't convert an analog signal to digital without compression? 'cause that flies in the face of signal processing theory.
Is vinyl better because it's perfect, is digital better because a robot sat behind a desk and said "alright, let's make this mathematically perfect even though it'll sound like dog sh!t".
You keep conflating "sounds better" with reproduction accuracy for some reason and it's getting weird.
not to mention the whole "it's gotta sound better because it's digitally perfect" is "your technical preference" so your argument is moot.
See, you did it again.
Ok now I know you're trolling if you think Vampire's Kiss is better than a modern day marvel movie as they're both equally as sh!t as each other, except one is 80's slop so it must be better, right lol?
Seems like the point sailed right over your head or you deliberately ignored it just to make an insipid remark about taste. It seems like you label everything you dislike a troll. I'm starting to think you just want to stay angry and be pretentious. Enjoy your piano concertos, you are very smart and sophisticated, and everyone thinks you're cool.
@Diji: What's with the reddit spacing?
No sweetheart I'm saying what do you use a DAC for?
So if you sat in front of a computer and saw the output was "mathematically incorrect" but sounded great, would you "correct" it to be "mathematically perfect" even though it would "sound worse"?
Digital is your preference though right? Because it's technical misinformation to say it's not yes?
No I was saying today's marvel movies & 80's slop are one and the same, but wait a minute….it's me who's being pretentious & supposedly angry because I don't want a robot to play a piano concerto, got it👍🏻
To be smart and sophisticated doesn't everything have to be mathematically perfect so everyone thinks you're cool for debunking technical misinformation?
C'mon man, I know we're living in the 21st century & all, but you really need to put down that calculator.
What's with the reddit spacing?
I don't know wtf this means, my posts aren't spaced any differently to yours. Guess you were the one trolling after all
@Diji: How are our posts the same, yours have the reddit spacing with my quotes, mine don't because you can remember what you posted, right?
Just remember, calculators, robots and typewriters don't have souls🎶🎶.
The best consumer quality is lossless digital 24bit files with highish sampling frequencies, that hasn't been subjected to loudness wars processing (applying 20 Db of limiting markup doesn't make music better). Vinyl is an inferior legacy medium, smaller dynamic range, prone to crackling and popping, easily damaged. 80 years ago it was great, today it is just a way of virtue signalling middle class status. What people enjoy isn't the 'superior' sound but the ritual of picking out the record from a collection, fondling it, admiring the large cover art, and placing it on the turntable. People enjoy it because it requires more effort and intentionality than listening to digital music, even though 24/96 lossless is qualitatively superior.
Once you have a local copy of HQ digital music, you can make a backup copy, and never have to worry about it being removed from your account.
@RefusdClassification: "Vinyl is an inferior legacy medium, smaller dynamic range, prone to crackling and popping, easily damaged."
Tell me how you don't know UHQR pressings exist, don't know how to clean a record and are very clumsy without telling me.
So it's all about "ceremony" is it?
96/24? Gee that's little on the low side mate, maybe you you might want to try 192/24 if you want the true purist digital audio masturbatory title👍🏻.
Until you try proper turntable setup
Agree. If you want to hear truly undiluted mumbo jumbo being spoken, listen in on a conversation between two audiophiles.
edit: see comments below. I rest my case.
Mmmmmmm burgers
would this be better than https://www.thegoodguys.com.au/audio-technica-lp60xbt-blueto… ?
purely based on soundThat’s likely to be somewhat better. Looks like same tonearm and cartridge so the betterment would be from the stability.
$179 from TGG commercial btw if you were thinking of grabbing one (and $241 with bluetooth)
Can you imagine spinning a record on the plane? It’ll be hilarious!
I'm sure there's a music video or 3 based on that premise.
has Bluetooth
Buys records because “digital doesn’t have to same warmth” or something, proceeds to listen to the output via a low bitrate digital Bluetooth codec anyway. Can’t make this hipster stuff up.
Magic to your ears
Yeah bro, everyone buying this $199 turntable is getting it for the audiophile qualities
Sick take
You completely missed the point. I’m not talking about being an audiophile. People say records sound “different” (not necessarily better quality, just different) because the source is analog. By listening to it via Bluetooth you’re digitising the source anyway. It makes no sense.
It actually does, they still get the distortion from the source. Two physical objects rubbing against each other, limited response due to mechanical limitations, etc. That's the difference they call warmth. Not knocking it - personally I like the distortion from film - but just call it what it is.
@fantombloo: Sure. But you’d get the exact same experience downloading a FLAC of a recorded record.
That's the difference they call warmth.
Not necessarily. Some people consider the warmth to be the analog (compete waveform).
I maintain my point.
If you listen to records because of the sub-par sound, you could get the same sound by listening to FLAC of a record. If you listen to records to get complete waveform analog provides, listening to it via Bluetooth will remove it anyway.
Of course if you don’t really know why you listening to records besides to claim to be “quirky” and tell people “I listen to records”, sure makes no difference.
Do you think that Bluetooth removes the "vinyl sound"?
Do you actually think it filters out the imperfections on the record, the pops and crackles from the needle that give vinyl its distinct sound?@theguyrules: I did. I said
Sure. But you’d get the exact same experience downloading a FLAC of a recorded record.
Sounds like you just hate physical media
Not at all. I just hate inferior poor quality physical media when better physical media exists. The same as if I wanted to watch my favourite movie I would watch it on Bluray, not a VHS.
@PainToad: You'd get the same experience downloading a blu-ray rip as watching the disc.
You'd get the same experience downloading an ebook as reading a novel.Downloading a rip of a record isn't the same as buying a record, supporting the artist.
Just let people do what they want man.I just hate inferior poor quality physical media when better physical media exists. The same as if I wanted to watch my favourite movie I would watch it on Bluray, not a VHS.
Why would you bother "hating" a psychical media format anyway? Do you hate VHS? Like, actually hate VHS to the point that you'd call people idiots for owning and watching them? If the answer to that is yes, then that is kinda sad. What a weird thing hate.
You'd get the same experience downloading a blu-ray rip as watching the disc.
Yep. A remux is identical to a Bluray. If I had both, I would have no desire for it to be in disc form. Its illogical to have a sentiment attachment to identical data because it’s stored on a different medium.
Downloading a rip of a record isn't the same as buying a record, supporting the artist. Just let people do what they want man.
I’m not stopping them.
Do you hate VHS? Like, actually hate VHS to the point that you'd call people idiots for owning and watching them? If the answer to that is yes, then that is kinda sad. What a weird thing hate.
Wouldn’t call them an idiot. But it makes zero sense to me. It’s like wanting to have cataracts because “blurry vision is more fun”.
@theguyrules: Wireless Bluetooth codecs are no substitute to listening lossless wired.
Some new codecs have surfaced in the last few years, and it's "good enough",
but depending on your equipment, you could still tell the difference.@theguyrules: I didn't think I was addressing you, but just adding to the discussion about Bluetooth codecs, and the "experience" of listening, because you were just comparing these experiences:
You'd get the same experience downloading a blu-ray rip as watching the disc.
You'd get the same experience downloading an ebook as reading a novel.
Basically all modern records are recorded and mastered digitally anyway. This has a line out too bluetooth is just there if you want it.
@voidspace021: Making their continual existence even more cringe.
Recorded digitally -> produced and edited digitally -> printed to vinyl and made analog -> encoded to a digital Bluetooth codec -> decoded by the headphones -> speakers
"Self-delusion" I think is the correct term.
I buy records because I want to own my music.
CDs exist if you aren’t wanting the “unique” (imo worse) sound of records.
You can also convert CDs to FLAC with zero loss of quality.
CDs and ripping FLAC from them definitely serve their purpose, but why I enjoy buying vinyl goes beyond just the audio. It's the whole experience - album artwork, feel of the record, placing it on the turntable, unleashing the needle, and appreciating the 'unique' qualities like the vinyl's color, weight, and special editio… I don’t need to give you the full rundown, but you get what I’m saying. CDs just don’t capture that experience at all.
@PainToad: The logic is not in the nostalgia, with respect to music.
How your auditory system captures/processes the signal and how your brain experiences this sound,
is the feeling that audiophiles chase, whether they buy expensive audio equipment and whether they get this sound from a vinyl source.It's different to riding in a vintage car, which is to transport you…and sure, there's nostalgia there,
but I argue the case with music is different,…or even food, it's different.
It's how the stimuli is interpreted inside your mind, is why different people react differently to the stimuli.Some people cannot form images in their mind, and some people can.
Some people feel music and see music, and some people can't.How the brains are wired, is not the same in everyone.
It's different to riding in a vintage car,
It's no different. I'm not sh1tting on vinyl - if you like it you like it. I'm just sh1tting on this notion that it's better than digital and that some people have some extra ability to objectively appreciate it.
I'm not interested in vinyl but I might be interested in a vintage car. But I accept that compared to modern cars they're sub-standard in most ways. That doesn't mean I can't enjoy driving one, warts and all, and it might give me a great buzz, but it's just always gonna be a sub-standard drive on independently verifiable standards to a modern car. The fact I like it doesn't mean it's a better drive, it just means it's pushing my own buttons.
I too miss the whole process of going to town on a Saturday morning and buying the latest LP and bringing it home and pulling it out of its sleeve and popping it on the turntable and reading the liner notes and spending an hour with my mate listening to it and talking about how good it is. But I don't care enough to put up with the warts, at least regularly. That's just me. You do you.
Just a couple of weeks ago a good mate was telling me about how he bought an old amp, somewhere from the 80s, because he thinks they sound better than modern "digital" ones. When I explained to him that most modern amps are no less analog than those from the 80s he had no idea. They're all mostly still using transistors biased in their linear operating regions even if the user interface is a modern GUI. His mind was blown, I think his ego too but I didn't want to prod too much there. It's all mostly just hype and he lapped it up.
Enjoy your vinyl. Just don't go saying sh1t about it that isn't true. And don't unfairly denigrate digital.
@fantombloo: Agreed. Vinyl is enjoyable from a nostalgia perspective - also from just an audio history perspective. And if it gets people into the idea that you should own music instead of just renting it or helps pay artists then that's all good.
But it's not in any way technically better than digital music. It might sound different in ways someone likes, it might create a listening context and experience that they find more enjoyable than just hitting a button on a phone, but for real high-fidelity, you want nice CD-quality digital audio sources running through non-lossy connections using good quality DACs, amps, and speakers/headphones. Sure streaming sucks in a lot of different ways, and bluetooth is a quality drop, but we created digital music through striving for the best quality and accuracy in audio reproduction, not convenience or corporations letting you own nothing. That came later.
Also the Sound Burger is just an utter madlad crazypants idea for a turntable design and I love it.
@HoleInMyWallet: Sure, but that's a different statement to "I buy records because I want to own my music", which they were replying to. If the ownership is the only factor, vinyl wouldn't be your default choice, IMO.
And I'm not casting shade here, I just think it's weird that people say that instead of just saying they like the sound, the nostalgia, or the novelty, as though those aren't valid enough reasons to buy them.
CDs are already a reduction on quality from uncompressed
If you're into digging in the crates, the Bluetooth would be awesome. A pair of Bluetooth headphones and this would be all you'd need to find amazing lost vinyl at the local weekend markets.
This is a very good use case for this player.
I wonder what the power source is (eg. does it run on batteries?),
and also if the seller would allow you to "test" the vinyl before purchase :-DUSB-C rechargeable internal battery
Don't worry, the real bottleneck is all in their heads anyway lol
Because their neurons aren’t gold plated, duh.
Rock up to do squats while spinning the vinyl
Cuz I wanna share Laufey's good stuffs with everyone at the gym yo!
I have one of these and it is a wonderful device. It sits on the TV cabinet and takes up almost no space at all. When I want to use it I just put it on the kitchen counter and drop in a record and it connects to my TV's soundbar via bluetooth. I love it so much.
As for sound quality: Sounds good to me!
If you're using Bluetooth, you may as well use a streaming service and save yourself a bunch of bother
Sorry champ, I support the bands I like so buy their vinyls and listen to them :)
True.
The majority of artistes hate streaming services, because the payouts are so very miniscule.
Bandcamp is decent enough, and some artistes don't always like Bandcamp either, but they get their "Bandcamp Fridays" day to get a little more income.
@whyisave: How much does an artist/band deserve for a single play of a single track?
How much did they get when their track was played on radio for any number of people to listen to?
How much is it worth to get a new fan who had no idea that you existed before you appeared on their queue?
There's also the tactile aspect of selecting, loading, and flipping the record. It's more deliberate and for some, more rewarding. Each to their own.
Holy gatekeeping, Batman!
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Actually a pretty good quality turntable with a good sound even though it looks like a bit of a novelty.