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BYD Seal: Premium $55,798 (was $58,798), Performance $65,748 (was $68,748) + On Road Costs ($1,000 Deposit) @ BYD

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BYD have lowered their pricing on the Seal Premium and Performance models (no love for Dynamic).
Comes out a bit lower than the BYD SEAL Drive Away offer they ran last month.

Premium – From $55,798 + On-Road Costs

Drive Away Prices

ACT From $56,807.40 Drive Away
NSW From $58,932 Drive Away
NT From $56,638.25 Drive Away
QLD From $57,697.35 Drive Away
SA From $58,684.11 Drive Away
TAS From $58,666.42 Drive Away
VIC From $59,030.05 Drive Away
WA From $60,521.10 Drive Away

Performance – From $65,748 + On-Road Costs

Drive Away Prices

ACT From $66,757.40 Drive Away
NSW From $69,382 Drive Away
NT From $66,888.25 Drive Away
QLD From $67,847.35 Drive Away
SA From $69,034.11 Drive Away
TAS From $69,016.42 Drive Away
VIC From $69,400.05 Drive Away
WA From $71,118.05 Drive Away

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          • +2

            @bennybaubles: With some of their batteries. CATL supply the vast majority of batteries Tesla use.

          • @bennybaubles: Thats true, but iirc Tesla battery chemistry is different to what BYD put on their own vehicles

      • I'm all for refurbishing the batteries for solar and off-grid use.

        But part of me wants to see this stuff used to make Frankenstein vehicles, rust and all.

      • +1

        Savage.

      • +4
          • +4

            @Ezekiel2320: As opposed to the evidence you've provided? You don't win debates on emotions unfortunately.

            • -8

              @Drakesy: Sorry you want me to find evidence to refute your """"rebuttal""" which was about a completely unrelated topic? That's not how debating works champ. Where did you go to school? Clown school seems like.

              Anyway in "response" to your Strawman argument, these cars have only been on the road for a few years. It'll take a few more before they fall apart.

              • +3

                @Ezekiel2320: Lol
                Ok Bud :)
                You do know that all cars rust right?

                • -8

                  @Drakesy: "lol K" Ah yes the brilliant minds of ozbargain. Strawman, argue and then run away when you have no real ammo. Jeez it's like shooting fish in a barrel. I almost feel bad, until I remember how hard some people are willing to simp for brands. Then I laugh and laugh

                  • @Ezekiel2320: In this case you're shooting a seal in a barrel.

                    • -1

                      @clandestino: Nah they're seagulls. They fly out of nowhere, screech and shit on everything and then eventually (profanity) off once they've made a mess. The wumao used to get paid but now goons will do it for free if it means criticising Tesla (which FOR THE RECORD I am not a fan of either)

          • +2

            @Ezekiel2320: I swear every time someone uses the term strawman they are full of themselves. You, yourself, have not provide evidence of the BYD cars rusting at a rate faster than other vehicles.

            • -2

              @Caped Baldy: Where's your evidence that they won't? 🙃

              In 5 years time we'll see who was right. If I'm wrong I'll eat an apology humble pie on Livestream, if you're wrong you'll lose $60,000. Deal.

              My exact same bet on Great Wall utes worked out tremendously in my favour since now you can pick them up for a thousand bucks if you can find one that's still alive

              • +3

                @Ezekiel2320: The car manufacturers are businesses and businesses are there to make money. They won't make money long term if the product doesn't last. People said the same drivel about Japanese cars and then Korean cars and now it's the Chinese cars turn.

                Please tell me how Australia's car manufacturing is going.

      • +1

        the frame disintegrates into rust

        You will be waiting a long time, they are plastic

    • +14

      I've driven both and BYD seal imo was a far nicer experience and everything feels more premium. time will tell though but immediate thoughts is the seal. definitely try driving both yourself and see

    • +15

      Do you like indicator stalks, a non-touch screen gear selector, and HUD? Get the Seal.

      Both have pros and cons. Software and integrated navigation with chargers is better in the M3 and heaps of storage. But give money to Elon..

      I found the Seal good to drive but it didn't have proper one pedal driving and it rode a bit low so I scrapped it on a couple driveways and gutters.

      • +3

        I don't think it's entirely fair to say the Model 3 has "heaps of storage" and the Seal doesn't. The main boot space of the Seal and Model 3 are very similar (400L vs 425L).

        The Model 3 just has larger under floor and front boot areas which it counts towards the advertised figure.

        • +1

          Is your source correct? This says 594L

          https://www.carsguide.com.au/tesla/model-3/boot-space

          M3 has the frunk, and the centre console had storage too.

          • +4

            @Caped Baldy: Tesla quote the space including under floor and side wells. They also use the American method of measuring it which is equivalent to filling the space with water and measuring the volume rather than the Euro method of 1L blocks. That’s how they get to 594L

            The boot itself is about 1sqm of floor space and about 40-45cm tall.

            • @tp0: Ahh cool, I wasn't aware. I did watch some carwow videos of people going into the boot and the M3 was more spacious and didn't really question it too much.

          • +2

            @Caped Baldy: You really think a Model Y would have 971L as advertised? Tesla measure the whole volume including the underfloor space all the way up to the back windscreen including the frunk. Even the Landcruiser = 742L.

            The model 3 does have a bigger boot but not by much prob around 15% at the cost of back seat comfort and space. Family owns a model Y and a Seal. Seal is a much smoother and comfortable car to drive.

      • +6

        I think 'Give money to Elon' is the best possible reason to not buy a Tesla.

        If you're going to give money to a billionaire, at least give it to a vaguely likeable one.

        • +2

          Pretty sure that's what @Caped Baldy is implying there.

        • +2

          To be fair, Elon didn't become a billionaire overnight. He worked hard, invested in futuristic ideas that everyone doubted and predicted would fail, yet he succeeded.

          • @bar gain man: And got a couple of billion dollars in subsidies from the American Taxpayer .

    • +18

      Seal if you like driving cars. Tesla is becoming less car like, less driver centric, and with weird gimmicks. Maybe those gimmicks will be adopted by more in the future, who knows, but I don't think they are improvements. I wanted a car I felt like I was driving, so got a Seal Performance. BYD have rolled out some good OTA updates fixing most owners gripes, added features like wireless carplay.
      Overall, build quality for the Seal is superb. Surfaces are smooth and soft, look and feel luxury, lines up perfectly, and feels solid.
      Styling, both interior and exterior is great. I always look back at my Seal. Turns a lot of heads if that's your thing too, because it looks fast.
      Battery range has been acceptable - knock about 100km off the rating to be realistic.
      Performance is wicked. Launches like a rocket. Overtakes without hesitation. Corners really well for a 2+ tonne car too.
      Sound system is great when tweaked in the settings slightly.
      The OTA addressing issues has been impressive.

      • Curious to know, how have you tweaked the sound system? I haven't messed around with the EQ much

        • I don't have the link on me but there's a YouTube video of just a few changes to the EQ and switching something off, from memory?

      • +1

        Oddly I think the opposite. The seal is a nice cruiser and generally good drive but it’s heavy, a bit soft, floaty and feels more like a boring traditional car.

        But the Tesla feels like a step into the future, far nicer to drive, more responsive, lighter and agile. Once you get accustomed to one pedal driving it is so much better and stepping into the seal it feels like it’s a generation behind.

        • +2

          The 3 probably is, in the futuristic sense, absolutely, but it's lost its car-ness. No driver screen, no HUD, no stalks, no gear lever, does not feel like a car. I want engaging. I want the low seats, the real leather, the drivers cockpit that the Seal has and the Tesla doesn't. The steering wheel looks and feels like a car steering wheel, not a budget arcade game. Re the weight , I can see why one would say that, but I've had fast, heavy cars before, and this feels a lot lighter than it is. It's not an MX5, no doubt there 😆 definitely agree about the cruiser part though, beautiful as a GT, although Tesla have everyone beat on range.

        • Is that based on the Seal Performance, or another model? The performance has much better (tighter) suspension in my view compared to the dynamic and premium, so even though it's heavy it drives really well.

      • It's an interesting thought. I do like driving, but I also can't wait for the day when I don't have to drive. Just like making a hobby into a job ruins both, having to drive ruins my desire to drive.

      • Exactly my view. As I've said before, the Seal (Premium and Performance) are a driver's car, the M3 Highland is a minimalist loungeroom with wheels waiting for fully autonomous driving to properly exist. And the Model Y is just ugly ;)

    • +4

      Not an EV owner but isn’t the Tesla charging infrastructure one of its main advantage? Curious to hear from others in the know.

      • +2

        They are more or less open to everyone now over here. 2024 model BYDs can use them natively. Older models have issues due to hardware limitations. I ended up going BYD.

      • +1

        BYDs can now charge on the Tesla network I think. https://youtu.be/w48zBLjv3g8?si=g0epnsP340tFoZ40

        • +4

          AFAIK, it's not at every location yet.

      • And their ability to use the charger speed. EG BYD Seal is limited to 110-150kW, Model 3 is 220kW so you'll spend less time charging there with a Tesla. There's also issues with some BYD models not working at all with Tesla superchargers due to a handshake issue that they won't correct for already sold cars.

      • +31

        The teslas are built in China

        • -6

          That's common knowledge by now. The brand is American.

          • +2

            @smartProverble: Brand doesn't matter when everything is outsourced.

            • -2

              @Rysta: It does to many people. Mabe not for ozbargainers.

              Would a typical person pick an iPhone / Samsung / Sony over a "Huawei" they've never heard of and sounds Chinese etc.

              • @smartProverble: Sorry, I meant brand location.

                Huawei isn't problematic because its based in China, its problematic because of IP theft and a horrible android skin. Oppo (namely OnePlus) is also Chinese but has a great reputation in the west.

                I guess it does matter to people, but it really shouldn't, its just a smokescreen.

              • @smartProverble: Lenovo, DJI, Xiaomi, Hisense, Anker…

                Smells a bit like Sinophobia…

      • +11

        Except that Elon is meddling with the election and is against democracy. I think mainly so he's not taxed to hell even though he's got more money than anyone will ever need.

        • +1

          Ok please enlighten me, without any hostility (!), with sources. How has he been meddling in politics and is against democracy?

          If you mean by donations, there are many other examples of this, and it is legal whether you (or I) like it or not. In a way we all meddle in politics if we donate in that sense.

        • -2

          Let me guess, you want Harris to win?!

          • +5

            @Cheap Rich Guy: I just don't want Trump or another old geezer in…

          • +2

            @Cheap Rich Guy: For Australia, it's probably better if Harris wins.

            For America, who cares. Both choices suck but I'd rather not vote for someone who was essentially a token choice. Remember, she won no Primaries during 2020 and so dropped out early in the race (to avoid further humiliation?!)… But was later picked as VP by Biden.

      • Or CCCP vs RWNJ

      • That's why i'm going to choose Korean.

    • +3

      The biggest cost of any car is usually depreciation. The COVID years have distorted the market for highly sort after cars like RAV4s and Jimnys. But it remains to be seen what depreciation of BYDs and Teslas are. I would guess that the Tesla will hold its value slightly better. But with the massive discounts that all brands have been pumping into EVs, the depreciation has been astronomical but again distorted. With Tesla being one of the worst (or best depending which way you look at it) offenders in terms of discounting.

      Because depreciation is largely built on reputation and both BYD and Tesla being very young brands I would imagine that they'd both in 3-5 years time depreciate pretty heavily. But seeing into the future is extremely difficult so who knows?

      • Excellent comment. As a hater of vehicle depreciation I wonder if I'll ever sell my 23 year old turbo diesel landcruiser that is worth the same as when I bought it used 15 years ago. I dare say I'll keep it but i cant see me buying an ev soon no matter how much i like the idea and want to help the planet

        • +1

          The best way for you to help the planet is to keep your Cruiser running, and running well for as long as possible,

        • +1

          If you hate depreciation you can wait until your car leaves its depreciation phase and morphs into its appreciation phase. How long will it take for a Landcrusier to become a classic car? Maybe never, but definitely a long time especially if it's high kilometres and an unremarkable type that was mass-produced.

          • @mwahahaha: Rust will most likely get the cruiser before depreciation does .

            • @beach bum: I think that happens to coastal 80 series and earlier but mine has zero issues re rust and it looks like never having any.

              • @feisty: Spray it before it starts , underbody chassis panels easy to do they you can come down and go on the islands , most fun 4wding you can do .

    • -1

      Tesla has the best software of any EV by far. I'd go for model 3.

    • Why you got abused just asking a simple question?

  • +4

    I've sat in the passenger seat in this for a drive… i want to cry, it's just so smooth vs my 2016 lancer lol. quiet, smooth and so fast. Only weird thing is taking foot off the brake when idling and it doesn't 'roll' forward.

    • i find more EVs are using the 1 pedal driving idea. I personally hate it since I love coasting and regen braking makes me carsick

      • +3

        The Seal didn't have it when I drove it. Might come in an update and you can always turn it off.

        I actually find it good to avoid speeding going downhill.

        • Yes it’s a setting you can turn on or off

      • +1

        Isn't it possible to turn off the function? I think it is on the Tesla

      • Seal has high or normal regen - high is close to one pedal, normal feels somewhere in the middle of auto and manual gearbox coasting…

        @Mortgagetightass that's a setting you can choose as well 😊

    • +2

      Never driven an electric car before but a friend got loan Model 3 from Porsche when doing service and told me it was like driving a toy, letting go of accelerator actually “brakes” the car, take time to get used to.

      • +2

        Surely you can adjust those settings. Everything is on the screen, including your air con controls.

        • You cannot adjust it in a Tesla. It also will never be changed by software since it’s a hardware limitation of the car.

          • @tp0: You can set it to creep.

            • @antman: Creep is only a function of what happens when the car is no longer performing regen. It doesn't change the intensity of the OPD braking.

              • @tp0: Sorry read the comment wrong.

            • +1

              @antman: otherwise known as 'Elon Musk mode"

      • +6

        Byd cars are tuned to feel more like conventional cars, even on 'hard' regen setting, the deceleration is significantly more gentle compared to the Tesla, which i felt was quite harsh, borderline 'slamming the brake' feel on the Tesla.

      • +3

        Most if not all EV's allow you to turn off one pedal driving. On the lowest setting BYD only applies about 9kw of regen, similar to coasting on an ice car

    • +2

      I know for a fact that in the model 3 you can choose if you want it to “roll” or not. But you do get used to it after a while, it was funny when I used a petrol rental and I was not expecting the roll when I had my foot off the accelerator.

      • -1

        Outdated fact considering they removed those modes.

        • +1

          My car still has an option to be on “roll” mode and it is on the latest release.

          However I did see this article:

          The latest change will see new Model 3 and Model Y cars manufactured after January 1, 2024, only featuring the Hold mode. As per internal communications obtained and reported by Drive Tesla Canada, this modification is specifically for vehicles destined for the U.S. market.

          So it could apply to AUS soon.

      • The modes, including “roll” only impact what happens once your car has run out of regen. These modes have been removed from the 2024 Model 3 leaving "hold" as the only option.

        The ability to reduce the intensity of OPD in all Tesla Model 3 or Y has been removed due to a hardware limitation meaning that it reduced efficiency. I believe it still may be present in some Model S.

    • It's called Auto Hold which let's you take your foot off the brake at the lights once you come to complete stop. It can be turned off but once you start using it you will realise how useful it is.

  • +2

    Question: Can someone buy from ACT and drive it to NSW? ACT looks like the place to be. Prices are lower.

    • +3

      YESH but you will need to reregister in NSW. Also they may check that you live in the ACT —-might need ACT address. Borrow the PMs addy - he is rarely in Canberra.

      • +4

        Surely there will be people that already done something like this and they already found out about the loopholes.
        Not that I am interested. Just asking so I can help people save more, if they can.

        • +2

          be wary if you continue driving on an ACT plate in NSW for too long and get into an accident, you may have issues with your insurance.

          Also the bother of going to ACT to pickup a car, potentially have to re-register in NSW and then the insurance headache probably not worth the 2-2.5k savings.

      • Couldn't you just buy it unregistered and put it on a trailer or get it trucked to NSW and register it there and save the $$$?

        • Doubt you can buy unregistered? Can you? from a dealer? if so why not?

          • +2

            @Naigrabzo: I'm not sure about new, but you can with used / demo.

            I'm in WA and I purchased my current car (demo) from a dealersip in Vic.

            I got the dealer to de-register it / remove the plates and put it on a truck and deliver it to my door.

            It was very quick & easy to register here & pay the stamp duty.

            • @tight-ass: Doesn't paying the stamp again in WA defeat any cost advantage on buying a new car out of state? Can understand demos since there might not be the same model in state.

              • @abetastic: You only pay it once.

                • @tight-ass: So when you bought the demo in Vic, there wasn't any stamp duty and you essentially had a car without a rego correct? Then you just had the car shipped to WA for registration?

                  That makes sense

    • +2

      Bureaucrats benefiting themselves. Who would imagine that happening?

  • Would this be a good hedge against inflation?

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