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1.99% p.a. Interest Rate (3.57% p.a. CR) on Tesla Model 3 RWD and Long Range AWD @ Tesla

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1.99% p.a. Interest Rate (3.57% p.a. CR) on Tesla Model 3 RWD and Long Range AWD @ Tesla
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AssociatedGomo @ Ride4U on 01/08/2024 - 09:54 tesla.com (5702 clicks)
Last edited 02/08/2024 - 15:23 by 2 other users

Tesla have on their website this morning offering 1.99% p.a. Interest Rate (3.57% p.a. Comparison Rate) on the Model 3 RWD & AWD,

QLD Model 3 RWD $58,594 Drive Away
NSW Model 3 RWD $59,818 Drive Away
ACT Model 3 RWD $57,715 Drive Away
NT Model 3 RWD $59,150 Drive Away
SA Model 3 RWD $59,851 Drive Away
VIC Model 3 RWD $60,158 Drive Away
WA Model 3 RWD $61,449 Drive Away
TAS Model 3 RWD $59,609 Drive Away
ACT Model 3 RWD $57,715 Drive Away

For those in QLD, Rebates up to $6,000 are also still available Queensland Zero Emission Vehicle Rebate Scheme

Note: I have marked as associated, I don't work for them however I run an un-official Facebook group called Tesla Owners Australia

1.99% p.a. Interest Rate | 3.57% p.a. Comparison Rate
Order and apply for finance on an eligible Tesla vehicle by 31 August 2024 and take delivery by 30 September 2024 to qualify. Valid only for eligible purchases of new Tesla Model 3 Rear-Wheel Drive and Long Range (AWD) configurations for finance loan terms up to 5 years. Not eligible with balloon repayments. Credit subject to financier's approval. Terms, conditions, fees and charges apply Interest rates are subject to change.

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        • ChickenAdobo on 01/08/2024 - 10:28

          Nahh I did the maths. Fortnightly payment + Zurich Tesla insurance + less than 7k deposit and rego is cheaper than smart leasing. Might have to go this route as I need a car sooner despite not being a model y.

          • [Deactivated] on 01/08/2024 - 10:29
            +4

            @ChickenAdobo: Looks like NL providers are pocketing most of the benefit from this FBT exemption. Bizzarre.

          • WhatWouldBiggieDo on 01/08/2024 - 10:35
            +1

            @ChickenAdobo: You must be in a relatively low tax bracket then. Even at 30% tax bracket, paying the repayments (including 10% interest) and all of the associated costs from your pre-tax salary has to be cheaper than paying post tax, albeit at a 3.57% comparison rate.

            • ChickenAdobo on 01/08/2024 - 10:36

              @WhatWouldBiggieDo: Yeah it only a part time job where I’m only onsite for 12 hours a week. I have a second job that earn more.

              • WhatWouldBiggieDo on 01/08/2024 - 10:39
                +1

                @ChickenAdobo: The novated lease will lower your total taxable income though. I'm 99% certain you have done your calculations wrong.

                The repayments for this car are $500 per fortnight alone. A fully maintained novated lease, even on $60k income, would cost $388 per fortnight. This includes registration, insurance and tyres.

                It's almost impossible that you would be better off with this arrangement.

                • tp0 on 01/08/2024 - 10:53

                  @WhatWouldBiggieDo: You are absolutely not getting a maintained lease with all running costs for $388 a fortnight. Get a real quote and you'll suddenly find their lease costs jump dramatically.

                  • WhatWouldBiggieDo on 01/08/2024 - 10:58

                    @tp0: I have two and can assure you you can. Noting that this doesnt include the balloon amount that will be payable at the end. Happy to provide proof via DM

                    • tp0 on 01/08/2024 - 11:06

                      @WhatWouldBiggieDo: Existing lease means you possibly signed up when finance costs were lower or possibly you just have a good salary packaging provider who isn't skimming all the FBT benefit through commission. The average person looking to start a novated lease today is not going to get in for under $500/fortnight at the 30% tax bracket.

                      • WhatWouldBiggieDo on 01/08/2024 - 11:57

                        @tp0: Perhaps. One of my leases is for my income which is results in a 47% or so benefit which definitely swings much more in favour of NL vs finance.

                        Based on Chicken's numbers below, there is not enough of a saving to go for a NL. Assume that the NL companies are charging exorbitant management fees and high implied interest rates.

                • ChickenAdobo on 01/08/2024 - 10:59

                  @WhatWouldBiggieDo: I did a quick excel, I got the smart leasing company quote down to $572.97 per fortnight with a lot taken out with just byo insurance(Zurich Tesla) and rego attached. 16k plus balloon

                  While the other route via personal loan with Plenti came out at $1112 a month including Zurich Tesla insurance and state rego. $6500 deposit

                  It was close but these novated leasing have profit to make I guess

                  • hardoncollider on 01/08/2024 - 11:12

                    @ChickenAdobo: Don't forget when you NL and the price of the vehicle depreciates as much as Teslas have (unrelated to your opinion on the quality/performance of the vehicle) as a result of pricing adjustments, it might not justify the tax incentives/offsets.

                    • SirFrankGrimes on 01/08/2024 - 11:29

                      @hardoncollider: Can you expand more on this point @hardoncollider? I'm a little unclear on what you are saying, but I'm looking at NL a Tesla

                      • hardoncollider on 01/08/2024 - 12:41

                        @SirFrankGrimes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSre_KbWFBY

                        This video goes in to great detail about it! It depends on your financial situation and it's difficult to say because Tesla keeps reducing prices.

                        Personal opinion: love EVs, but I don't have one and can't justify the depreciating cost. Currently still believe it's early stages, the car itself is potentially there depending on who you ask, but infrastructure definitely isn't and can see leaps in improvement. I've purchased a hybrid second hand, sell it in ~5 years and buy an EV once that improves.

                        Also disregarding politics, China is an innovater in the EV market - the price of vehicles for EV markets dropped further, so I believe this will happen in other markets.

                        My prediction is Tesla and other EV prices will fall at RRP (maybe not drastically). More importantly for emerging technologies the second hand EV car market will see huge disparaties in price, further making NL difficult.

                        A lot of people are incentivised by the tax incentives, but I think this is a more hollistic outlook.

                    • ChickenAdobo on 01/08/2024 - 11:38
                      +1

                      @hardoncollider: Yeah, if you take into account the potential depreciation and the balloon cost at the end. At the 16% tax bracket on my part time job, forget about novated leasing.

                      • [Deactivated] on 01/08/2024 - 12:16

                        @ChickenAdobo: Mate. If you are in the 16% bracket, prob consider car at this price range at a later day.

                        Guessing you are in your 20s.

                        • ChickenAdobo on 01/08/2024 - 12:20

                          @[Deactivated]: I’m actually in the 30% tax bracket when two income combined. Not in my 20s.

                          • [Deactivated] on 01/08/2024 - 12:20

                            @ChickenAdobo: Then the FBT benefit will be at 30%. Not sure how it (allocating the cost saving from tax) works out on two different jobs.

                  • WhatWouldBiggieDo on 01/08/2024 - 11:55

                    @ChickenAdobo: It's very close in your circumstances.

                    Rego is $33 a fortnight, insurance will be $100+ per fortnight, your repayments will be $500+ per fortnight, tyres you'll need to budget $30 a fortnight. All up it will cost (conservatively) in the region of $66 per fortnight, plus $6,500 deposit. Total cost over 5 years is at least $93k.

                    The novated lease would cost you $74,360 plus $16k is $90k.

                    You can claim charging through a novated lease which will tip the scales slightly more in favour of the NL, but agree that in your circumstances the savings aren't worth the loss of flexibility going for a NL. For those who pay 48% tax (with ML) the savings become much more valuable.

                    • ChickenAdobo on 01/08/2024 - 12:02

                      @WhatWouldBiggieDo: I’m planning to quit that job in the future anyway. Don’t see a long term benefit going novated leasing. Thanks for your additional input.

        • UltimateAI on 01/08/2024 - 11:41
          +2

          You were negged but, it's the truth, did the math and yes NL was cheaper despite much higher interest rates.
          Truth is most profit is going to NL providers and it's all funded by the TAX Payer.
          Most people these days are more concerned with how Elon spends his money, but don't bat an eye-lid with how the governments spends theirs.

    • howcan on 01/08/2024 - 10:28
      -7

      Based on your horrific case of TRD, how long will it be before you're climbing on top of a roof with a gun at a political rally?

      • Exorcist on 01/08/2024 - 10:30
        +1

        This df thinks he’s in america

      • Charleston on 01/08/2024 - 10:36
        +3

        I just don't believe in supporting bigots… Strange thing on the internet these days I know.

        • howcan on 01/08/2024 - 10:46

          But you don't have a problem with other companyfounders who hate certain races so much he uses them as literal slaves for forced labour in his factories.

          • Charleston on 01/08/2024 - 10:55

            @howcan: Elon is not the Tesla company founder - he purchased the company and then started calling himself the founder.

            • EitherWayUp on 01/08/2024 - 10:58

              @Charleston: He got your hypocritical ass their buddy.

              • Charleston on 01/08/2024 - 11:04
                +3

                @EitherWayUp: Not really… of course I'm against slave labour. If you read the article as soon as Dyson found out about it, they performed an audit and then they cancelled the contract with the supplier.

                The claims are that they knew about it prior to this, and if that is found to be true then I will absolutely consider this when I make a purchase in the future.

                With Elon I just have to listen to what comes out his mouth as an individual.

                Oh, also going through my old post history then googling the company to try to catch me out is just weird.

                • howcan on 01/08/2024 - 11:45
                  +1

                  @Charleston:

                  Oh, also going through my old post history then googling the company to try to catch me out is just weird.

                  You literally started ranting about Trump propaganda and ketamine on a deal for a cheap finance interest rate… I think you may want to recheck your definition of weird.

                  • EitherWayUp on 01/08/2024 - 11:52
                    -1

                    @howcan: That’s the hive mind process… it triggered his “orange man bad” keyword tag, in this case ‘Tesla’.

                  • Charleston on 01/08/2024 - 11:54

                    @howcan: Yeah that's fair haha, it was worth a laugh though

            • Simon Wright on 01/08/2024 - 12:31

              @Charleston: Elon didn't "purchase" Tesla, he was the company's initial (Series A) investor. It was his investment which allowed the company to put pen to paper for the first time. Tesla was Elon from the moment the company did anything.

              The only thing which pre-dated Elon was filing papers of incorporation. If Eberhard and Tarpenning (the people who filed the paperwork) deserve credit for anything, it's for almost bankrupting the company with their incompetence.

              • Charleston on 01/08/2024 - 13:00

                @Simon Wright: Just so I understand what you're saying, Elon saw this almost bankrupt company that only value they had was the name 'Tesla' and he went and gave them millions of dollars?

                • Simon Wright on 01/08/2024 - 15:11

                  @Charleston:

                  Just so I understand what you're saying,

                  Read these two paragraphs from Wikipedia:

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Propulsion_tzero#Lithium-io…

                  IMHO the person with the truest claim to "founder" of Tesla (aside from Musk) was Tom Gage, who designed the AC Propulsion tzero prototype sports car, the precursor to the original Tesla Roadster. Musk, Straubel, Eberhard and Tarpenning were all inspired by Gage's work on the tzero and all of them were interested in commercialising it. Tom Gage was not, but he put Musk & Straubel in contact with Eberhard & Tarpenning.

                  Elon saw this almost bankrupt company …so he went and gave them millions of dollars.

                  Elon saw some people who wanted to do the same thing he wanted to do, but hadn't yet raised any money to do it. So he went and gave them millions of dollars.

                  that only value they had was the name 'Tesla'

                  They didn't even have that. The trademark for Tesla Motors wasn't acquired until after Musk joined.

                  • Charleston on 01/08/2024 - 15:33

                    @Simon Wright: So yeah you're saying exactly that Elon saw an almost bankrupt company with no value except that they wanted to do the same thing as him, and for some reason thought great what an investment and gave them money.

                    Either that or Elon saw a company worth investing in, did so to the point where he was the majority owner, then ousted the leadership and claimed himself the founder.

                    One seems more likely than the other to me…

                    • klaw81 on 01/08/2024 - 15:50

                      @Charleston: There was a legal dispute about this specific issue, and there's a fair bit of information about the early days of Tesla from court records.

                      The judge ruled that Elon's work at during the early days of the company, and his financial contribution towards creating their first products, were "fundamental to the creation of Tesla as a company" and earned him the right to call himself a founder alongside the others.

                      Tesla's official stance is that there was a "team of founders" and I'd suggest that's a pretty accurate statement.

        • andresampras on 01/08/2024 - 16:58
          +2

          What i find strange is people buying products to 'support' the owner, or avoiding products to 'avoid supporting' the owner.

          I mean it makes sense if it's a mum and dad operation, but you realise tesla isn't just one person right?

          • Simon Wright on 01/08/2024 - 19:12

            @andresampras: Precisely correct. Buy the best product for your needs and budget, whatever that happens to be. If you want to obsess over politics and personality and have that drive you to something other than the best product for you, the only person who loses is you.

            Don't fool yourself that anyone else will ever care, or would have ever cared about your sacrifice.

      • CharlieAus on 01/08/2024 - 10:44
        +3

        But Charleston doesn't sound like a registered republican?

      • smartazz104 on 01/08/2024 - 10:56

        TRD

        TRD?

  • MauTauAja on 01/08/2024 - 10:17
    -3

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL3DSBIwOKk

    worth to watch

  • NamoC on 01/08/2024 - 10:20

    Typical Victoria…the land of excessive taxes of overcharging.
    Pardon the pun 😊

  • shabaka on 01/08/2024 - 10:20
    +2

    I am still not convinced Teslas are good cars. these interiors are not comfortable, clean lines feel boring, lack of instruments behind the steering wheel feels confusing, no dedicated buttons for most often used functions (climate control, navigation, media, some sort of shortcuts), suspension is too rigid

    I went with BMW iX3 and it's just a joy to be in and get in and out of. you can feel all the generations of car building experience that went into this. it gives you a smooth, respectable, and swift drive, and can go sporty at the click of a button (and has a physical button for it, along with 2 dozens more, and believe it or not I use most of them daily).

    Teslas just feel like they got some random engineers together and said "hey let's build a car". the result was an efficient electric drivetrain, and everything else was an afterthought and engineered backwards. didn't consider them for my new car at all.

    • Binchicken22 on 01/08/2024 - 10:24
      +11

      Also a 50% or $30,000 more expensive car by the looks of it though, which is kind of a factor…

      • bangabargain on 01/08/2024 - 10:27

        Yep iX3 is a 100k car, and that's the difference in quality - Tesla is trying to get to be a mass market car

        • shabaka on 01/08/2024 - 10:33

          it's amazing how Teslas used to cost you way more, while offering less.

          • bangabargain on 01/08/2024 - 11:29
            +1

            @shabaka: They charged for innovation and brand, with the goal of reducing prices and being mass market. It's an interesting strategy.

          • PhilToinby on 01/08/2024 - 11:57
            +1

            @shabaka: Any new product from a new company needs a load of money spent on R&D and manufacturing setup. It's completely normal for new things to start out expensive and then decrease in price over time, while improving. Combine that with the massive decreases in the price or batteries over time.

      • shabaka on 01/08/2024 - 10:28
        -2

        true, but I am not convinced Tesla is a good car at whatever price point it is at right now. If I were convinced it was a good car, I would have saved myself some hefty $$$k and bought it, right?

          • shabaka on 01/08/2024 - 11:20
            -2

            @mrdeal13: gets you from A to B with comfort and safety, lets you enjoy the journey, enables you to do more without taking eyes off the road

            Tesla just isn't there as I take my eyes off the road to do most basic things, it makes me feel every bump, and it's just not comfortable to drive. it's my personal opinion, and your may differ. but I am cursing every time I get a Tesla for my Uber

            • Deviner on 01/08/2024 - 15:22
              +1

              @shabaka:

              gets you from A to B with comfort and safety, lets you enjoy the journey, enables you to do more without taking eyes off the road

              Comfort - subjective.
              Safety - Tesla are pretty much top tier for safety in almost every crash test?
              Let's you enjoy the journey - subjective (Tesla's performance destroys the iX3, so personally, I'd enjoy the Tesla more for this).
              Enables you to do more without taking eyes off the road - extremely weird item for a car's checklist, but surely both BMW and Tesla are pretty similar here, arguably with Tesla winning this?

              In reality, it sounds like you just want a car with nice/soft suspension with a premium feel and maybe a flashy badge?

              You're likely comparing the cheapest Tesla on offer (the Model 3 RWD, and most likely not the latest revision which has uprated suspension), driven all day everyday via Uber, with your presumably low mileage BMW iX3…. which starts at 40% more RRP?

              Just a bizarre viewpoint in its entirety.

    • Kieranu on 01/08/2024 - 10:25
      +2

      I'd say that's true of previous version. The "Highland" interior is a lot more refined. There are dedicated "buttons" on screen for everything you refer to. Plenty third party stuff with physical buttons etc if you enjoy clutter.

      • shabaka on 01/08/2024 - 10:27
        +3

        I can argue with "clutter" because physical buttons are always there, and for instance in a BMW they are designed in a way that you can tell them apart by touch, without looking.

        means that I can trigger what I need without taking my eyes off the road, which is kinda safer, IMO

    • starspawn on 01/08/2024 - 10:26
      +1

      Yeah and it's 30K more than the base Tesla, so I guess you are paying for those features.

      • shabaka on 01/08/2024 - 10:40
        -4

        yeah, and I also thought it's better resale value down the track (hopefully). after all, it's a solid luxury ride, electric or not. I am pretty sure that years from now BMW is still going to be a name that is recognized. while Tesla.. you never know what kind of drugs this Musk guy is on, and what he's going to do tomorrow. My trust in his endeavors has been steadily declining over the recent years

        • smartazz104 on 01/08/2024 - 10:57
          +1

          I am pretty sure that years from now BMW is still going to be a name that is recognized

          If they keep enlarging their grills for sure they'll still be recognisable, from 3 blocks over…

      • gunnny on 01/08/2024 - 11:00
        +1

        plus the BMW comes with archaic software compared to the tesla.
        If you are buying european for an EV, you are a badge snob that's costing you another brand new EV 2 years later.

        • shabaka on 01/08/2024 - 11:11
          +2

          what's archaic about it? it does everything I need plus a ton more, and is very well thought through. received an update recently, too

          • Deviner on 01/08/2024 - 15:26
            -1

            @shabaka: That's what my granny said when she used her Nokia 3210.
            It's not really a solid point.

            The fact you've mentioned "received an update recently too" is telling.
            Tesla pushes updates every month or two.

    • tp0 on 01/08/2024 - 10:26

      The 2024 version fixes the comfort. These are cheap cars now. You get what you pay for ultimately.

      • gunnny on 01/08/2024 - 14:34

        Depends on where you see value. In the badge, or in the product.

    • dogboy on 01/08/2024 - 10:55

      https://youtu.be/WPc-VEqBPHI

      • shabaka on 01/08/2024 - 10:57
        -2

        sorry, I don't do YouTube. could you summarize please?

    • Simon Wright on 01/08/2024 - 11:32
      +2

      I have a fairly sporty (and heavily optioned) 2013 BMW which has been so enjoyable to own that 11 years on I feel no desire to upgrade. On a recent week-long trip to Sydney I rented a base model Tesla (Model 3 RWD pre-Highland) and given its reputation I was expecting the ride to be harsh and the build quality to be disappointing. After all, this car is nearly half the price as much as my BMW, if you account for 11 years of inflation.

      After a week with it, I was struggling to find things I liked more about my BMW than this base spec Tesla. My BMW's steering is slightly better (I love the variable ratio steering rack) and ride comfort is slightly better, but the overall handling was on par and didn't feel like a downgrade. There's a few subtle features of my BMW which I missed. But those pale in comparison to dog mode, to be able to pre-heat/pre-cool the car remotely from the app, for the better audio system, to be able to refuel at home, and to reduce my interactions with car mechanics.

      But the number one appeal of the Model 3 for me? That the car's software won't be abandonware. That seals the deal for me. I will never again buy a car from any company which doesn't have a solid reputation for long term software updates.

      The Model 3's biggest flaw IMHO is the glass roof, which can be mitigated with a snap-in shade. I'd also wish for normal door handles, and better rear view mirror visibility. I prefer cloth seats in summer, but Highland ventilated seats should eliminate that concern. Given what I experienced with a pre-Highland RWD, there's no doubt that if I had to replace my car today, it would be a dual-motor Highland. It's not the perfect car, and $70k drive away is a lot of money, but when I look at the competition, everything is a serious compromise or over $100k.

      • shabaka on 01/08/2024 - 12:52
        -1

        in BMW iX3 you can start pre-heating or pre-cooling from the app as well. not to mention that in the app you can see status of all doors and windows in the car, tyre pressure, location (gosh where did I park last night, but also really cool when you drive to some unfamiliar area, park somewhere on the street and can't find a way back to your car when you are going home), charging status, remaining range, trip statistics and what not.

        also it handles way better than model Y it competes with, plus has interior that makes you want to stay in the car while you charge it. yeah Tesla may charge faster, but BMW is just more comfortable and pleasant to drive. also, instruments should be behind the steering wheel, that's the safest way to do it IMO. BMW gives you current speed limit, your speed limit, and any other warnings along with navigation instructions right there, a quick glance with your eyes keeps you in full control. I would never get a car that has nothing behind the steering wheel..

        but each to their own

        • Deviner on 01/08/2024 - 17:07
          +1

          Everything in your first paragraph, Tesla has all of those… and most of them from day one, long before BMW had them.
          You can even look through the car's cameras from your phone, wherever you are to check up the surroundings.

          also it handles way better than model Y it competes with

          You could have an AWD, Dual Motor, Model Y Performance for less than your single motor, RWD iX3…. so I'm not sure I believe you.

          plus has interior that makes you want to stay in the car while you charge it

          If you had stopped at just being a better interior, I'd potentially agree with you.
          But once you went with "makes yo want to stay in the car while you charge it".. Tesla's have Netflix, YouTube, Disney…. and actual games you can play on screen.
          The infotainment system was designed to, and set the standard for, "staying in the car while you charge it".

          The one thing I'd 100% agree with you on is the HUD of the BMW.
          I've no issue with the lack of a physical speedometer, but a HUD from factory seems like a missed opportunity.

          • shabaka on 01/08/2024 - 17:14

            @Deviner: well I guess I am the odd one then. I don't do Netflix, or Disney, or YouTube. and I find BMW seats way more comfortable than any Tesla can offer - that's why it makes me want to stay in the car. if it's a tablet that I wanted, I could get a better one.. but I guess I am not an "infotainment" kind of person. I read books, I write books, I listen to music, that's all I do in the car. if I wanted to watch a movie, I'd probably go to Gold Class, or watch it on a large TV in a comfort of my own home, not in a car, this just sounds sad.

            • Deviner on 01/08/2024 - 19:26
              +1

              @shabaka: Why didn't you just say, at the beginning, I'm more interested in a traditional type of car (ie. my iX3 which is based on a chassis for the ICE X3), I don't like a minimalistic interiors, I'm not into technology and I just want a comfy cabin to sit in and get me from A to B, where I can read a book while I'm stopped?

              If you said that at the start, no one would recommend a Model Y to you over your iX3, and that's fine.

              But you went on an anti-Tesla diatribe which makes no sense, given 90% of the things you've said are either matched, or bettered, by almost all models of Teslas.

              The brand just isn't for you, move on mate…
              Coming onto a Tesla deal to tell everyone your iX3 is better, when it's not even a competitor to the Model 3 in this deal, is just weird (and the market would imply, incorrect).

              • shabaka on 01/08/2024 - 20:12

                @Deviner: not really. like I said from the beginning, cabin feels cheap, ride is bumpy, equipment is weird, and it feels wrong. it's not about my preferences or lifestyle, I have a lot of friends who think the same and have other preferences in life. you're just trying to explain my opinion away as a whim when it's not.

        • Simon Wright on 01/08/2024 - 19:33
          +1

          BMW iX3 … handles way better than model Y it competes with

          For an extra $36k more ($97k vs $61k) you'd bloody well hope so. Not to mention the inconvenience of having to deal with a BMW dealer. No thank you. I'd pay a premium to avoid that. And if you care about handling, you shouldn't be getting a crossover anyway.

          If I was interested in a crossover, I would hold off on a Model Y until it receives the next refresh to bring it in line with the Model 3 Highland.

    • gravelcrowman on 01/08/2024 - 11:44
      +5

      I've owned BMW, Mercedes C-Class, Hyundai i30N, Toyota Corolla and just picked up a brand new Model 3 Performance. It's the best car I've owned - combines comfort and performance (the adaptive suspension is excellent), the best sound system I've heard in a car and the best all round tech. It took a day to get used to everything you've mentioned. Fair enough if others can't get used to it though.

    • phxsun on 01/08/2024 - 12:04
      +1

      To me, it's the best car I've owned at doing the car stuff. It gets me from A to B comfortably, easily and cheaply. If I need power/acceleration, it's there, if I don't need power it's a very easy and peaceful drive. I have plenty of interior and storage space. It's incredibly easy to live with going without a key, having all the remote functionality and OTA updates that has made my car even easier to live with over the years.

      Is it as fun or as refined as my old Audi S3? Probably not and I do miss that car occasionally but it's really hard for me to fault the Model 3 as a daily driver. Sure I could use an extra button or two and I would've liked the real leather seats I used to have but I've lived with it long enough that I really don't think about it. To me, it ticks all the boxes for what I would consider a good car.

    • dealsucker on 01/08/2024 - 13:49
      +1

      Different strokes different blokes. EV's are meant to be computer on wheels with a certain level of intelligence expected. I find the legacy car incredibly distracting with all those redundant buttons and no actual intelligence to make your life better and less hectic. I will give you one example - in a Tesla the lane change indicator does not have static values like 3 blinks or 4 or whatever, the car knows when you have changed lanes because the camera's can see that and turn the indicator off. The automatic dashcam or the sentry model when parked or the fact that you do not need a key, the phone is enough or the app which works infinitely better than anyone else.

      This is before I get to the Tesla API's vs all of the other legacy brands. We are developing a product to automate car charging while plugged in and BMW/Mercedes API's are a nightmare to work with. There is a limit of 8 charging or discharging commands per day and it can take upto 10 mins from issuing the command to the car actually responding. Utterly ridiculous.

      • shabaka on 01/08/2024 - 14:03

        EV's are meant to be computer on wheels with a certain level of intelligence expected

        I think it's more of a marketing trick rather than anything else. EV is the same car, just motion is generated in a different manner, and naturally there's a different way to "refuel" it. being a huge battery on wheels it opens up a lot of possibilities for connected experience when you are away from the car, but no inherent "super-smarts" expectations besides marketing tricks and whatnot that could be delivered on conventional ICE cars if market demanded (it didn't)

        iX3 can be opened without a key as well, I can use my phone. can start cooling or heating from the phone. find where my car is. sound the horn from the app. or blink the lights. I know what my charging state is, what the remaining range is.

        as for the "smart" bits you mentioned, I don't like that shift in the paradigm that the car is smarter than the driver. I am the master in my car, and those classic cars' interiors spell that loud and clear as you get into the drivers seat. I don't want it to guess what I am trying to do in my car, I'd rather control everything the car does. for that you kinda need controls. you know there's a reason we don't have just a steering wheel in the airplanes. there's crap load of buttons toggles and switches in there despite computers being capable of flying planes. and we still train pilots to fly.

      • Deviner on 01/08/2024 - 17:03
        +1

        Never knew that about the API limitations on other cars, and I'd probably have lost my marbles since I use homeassistant to monitor mine.

        But API struggles mean nothing if you're only interested in the badge and keeping up with the Joneses 🙄

    • UltimateAI on 01/08/2024 - 14:01
      +3

      It's fine to prefer the iX3 but your other claims are complete bollocks.
      The Tesla's are clearly EVs designed from the ground up for safety. It's not an opinion, but un-true to claim otherwise. A tremendous amount of thought and engineering went into making them simple and safer.

      So Hey lets build a car is rubbish, heaps of engineering tare downs of the Tesla and BMW provides an insight into how far ahead the Tesla engineers are.

      Are Tesla engineers better? Unlikely, but they get to implement their ideas and improvements.

      • shabaka on 01/08/2024 - 14:10

        I have test driven Teslas when they came out. and these basically are reasons why I didn't buy any of them back then, and still not convinced today. as someone who likes to enjoy driving cars, and enjoys the process of driving itself, I can tell that I didn't enjoy driving any of the Teslas, and new models are more of the same, slightly better as they polish them as they go, but have fun on the 2nd hand market trying to figure out what iteration of each model you are getting, and what to expect from each of those. it's a public beta testing program at best, and no thank you Elon I am not going to test your cars for you, I want something I can rely on, and enjoy driving too.

        trust me, before choosing iX3 I test driven every EV under LCT worth driving, and Tesla didn't make the list. I stopped by the dealership, had one look inside, nope still the same, crossed out.

        • UltimateAI on 01/08/2024 - 14:12
          +2

          You missed the point, not everyone should or needs to purchase a Tesla.
          Not even claiming a Tesla is better, just calling out your comment as rubbish.
          I don’t own a Tesla, I drive an ICE car.

          • shabaka on 01/08/2024 - 14:17

            @UltimateAI: not sure sharing an honest opinion can be qualified as "rubbish". I said I am not convinced they are good cars, not even at this price. if you challenge my thinking, then give me some real arguments.

            for instance, I am not sure how having to take your eyes off the road to look at a huge iPad in the middle of the dashboard can be considered "safe" and how it was engineered for "safety" from ground up. what were ICE cars engineered from ground up for? to kill as many passengers as possible? highly doubt it. would be interesting to hear more

            • Deviner on 01/08/2024 - 16:51

              @shabaka: You have no way of winning the safety argument if the only point is the speedometer - Tesla wins the safety debate hands down.
              You would be amazed at how little you actually use your speedo.

              I was of the same opinion as you and, before I received my car, I ordered a discrete little LCD speedometer that sits neatly in the grooves behind the steering wheel of a Model 3.

              After I started driving it for a few days, I completely forgot I had the speedo in a box in the garage that needed installing.

              You honestly overuse it I think in standard cars, as a sense of peace of mind to constantly re-check your speed over and over.

              Whack on cruise control and it auto sets to appropriate the speed limit of the road.
              Or, just drive manually, reach your desired speed, flick your eyes to the speedo, then maintain that speed…. end of.

              And when you must look at the speedo on the main screen, it's a microsecond with your eyes flicking to the left and back central, which is less movement than is required to check your wing mirror, or change the radio station…. which no one ever complains about.

              It's completely negligible the amount of attention needed so I wouldn't base my argument on that alone.

              • shabaka on 01/08/2024 - 17:10

                @Deviner: not sure how you do this, tell me more. in iX3 if I don't use speed limiter I'd be over 70kph before I lift the foot off the gas pedal, when going on a traffic light. even in eco mode

                I don't use the speedometer, I mostly look at the current value of the speed limiter / cruise control, and I only use cruise control on motorways, speed limiter in city rides. without speed limiter I'd have way too many speeding tickets.

                plus I like having map behind steering wheel. I have spoken navigation instructions off as I prefer to enjoy my music uninterrupted

                • Deviner on 01/08/2024 - 19:50
                  +2

                  @shabaka: I'm not sure what you're asking here.
                  I can sense you're attempting some kind of humble brag about the speed of your iX3, despite the fact it is slower than the slowest Model 3/Y….

                  I don't think there's any sense in dumbing myself down any further replying here.
                  It sounds like you love your iX3 (good for you), but to the point where you are just blindly drinking the kool-aid and will live and die by the BMW badge.

                  As a former BMW owner, who has an entire family of BMW junkies, I'm familiar with the fanaticism and their inability to see anything beyond the badge.

                  • shabaka on 01/08/2024 - 19:59

                    @Deviner: not really, just honestly asking here. I don't like to waste time and like to always drive at the speed limit, so I use speed limiter a lot. I don't care about how "fast" the car is, it's all in the driver's experience, not in car's capabilities. come on, I am not bragging, X3 is no M5. I wouldn't be able to drive without speed indicator of some sort, I got a lot of speeding tickets in the past.

  • Yaren24 on 01/08/2024 - 10:22

    Hi OP, is it worth buying an used tesla?

    • Binchicken22 on 01/08/2024 - 10:26
      +2

      Yeah absolutely if it's going to suit you. I've seen some great deals on 2 years old model 3s with sub 50,000kms for less than 40k.

      • Yaren24 on 01/08/2024 - 10:31

        How much money can you save buying a tesla?

        • MS Paint on 01/08/2024 - 10:35
          +2

          About the same as your piece of string.

    • tp0 on 01/08/2024 - 10:58
      +1

      Better than buying one new and having to directly fund Elon's latest gambit.

  • NoBargainNoLife on 01/08/2024 - 10:26
    +1

    Great for people don’t have access to novated lease

    • starspawn on 01/08/2024 - 10:29

      And if changing employer, may not be able to take car/NL with you

      • ChickenAdobo on 01/08/2024 - 10:32

        Yeah it a mental block that you have to be stuck at your job for 5 years because of your car payment

        • NoBargainNoLife on 01/08/2024 - 11:31

          Just do yearly if your cash flow allows. And you can transfer your lease to the new employer's lease provider, as long as your new employer also provides NL as benefits.

  • Jonbillion on 01/08/2024 - 10:28

    Am I able to use this to finance the car as a novated lease, if I can do a self managed novated lease with my employer? Or does the loan structure need to be considered a Novated Lease too?

    • ChickenAdobo on 01/08/2024 - 10:32

      You might if you have self managed finances option

  • AssociatedGomo @ Ride4U on 01/08/2024 - 10:29

    I have a Model 3 with over 295,000km & Model Y with 40,000km

    Both are amazing vehicles, if you are trying to find out more about them, plenty of content on the Facebook page I have linked to on the main post.

    • starspawn on 01/08/2024 - 10:35

      Do you drive your Model 3 as an Uber?

      • AssociatedGomo @ Ride4U on 01/08/2024 - 10:38
        -1

        Yes, Since 2021

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