Do your puny headlights barely light up the markings on the road at night? Replace them with these magical, now affordable, legal (?) led headlights that will outlast your car, while blinding illuminating everyone and everything in front of you.
Ripper price for these especially with the 17% off for eBay Plus members
I think its still a lot better if used in a sedan/hatchback compare to facing "American" utes like Ford Ranger, Nissan Navara, etc. Those car's headlights are blinding even with their standard bulb (either halogen, HID or LED).
^^^ this
How do these compare to the Stedi equivalents? I have only started looking, is one brand better than the other or basically the same? Seems like these are way brighter.
I have installed the Narva Surefit model to my car. So far never fail me for 1.5 years. OP's link is for performance range. Usually you can see the 'brightness' by looking at the number of lumens. The standard LED could be less than 3000 lumens but the above is 6000 lumens which i would say double the standard 'light'. Another car just installed with Philips standard LED for $50+ from Amazon UK recently.
Would you have the link for the 3000 lumens or the Philips one?
Philips Ultinon Access LED car… https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0CHWWLPBC?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_s…
Please note this is only 1600 lumens. Hence the price is much lower compare to other model cost more than $100+.
This is pretty much same as halogen brightness but in LED. As I don't drive much at night so no point to spend on performance model.
Just wait for the price to drop to $56.67 or lower.
They all have issues, because the emitter is a different size and shape to the halogen bulb you are replacing. The design of your headlight determines how bad the resulting beam pattern is.
There's a great article here - https://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversio… - explaining the differences.
If you have projector lenses, you'll get better results from a HID kit than from LED - the emitter (a small blob of molten salt) is a closer fit (but still not perfect).
If you have reflector lenses, then both HID and LED kits give a terrible beam pattern, and will dazzle other road users.
The latest LED ones really don't. I had the Stedi's in a couple vehicles and the cutoff was sharp, no glare, etc.
These do not have the cutoff "hood" the stedi's do, it seems.I imagine they're glary as shit.
Have I missed some change in legislation? Still states on the Narva site "Not ADR approved - for off road use only." So whilst not illegal to possess them, not legal to install in a normal halogen designed headlight housing.
Not ADR Approved - for off road use only
Also says that on the SCA site and the front of the box
It's more that there's nothing legal about LEDs because the ADR guidelines haven't been updated in years still feature the term "filament"… which they don't have.
I can assure you, through many experiences, cops will NOT pull you over for these.
But they will happily ass that to the list of offenses if they pull you for anything else.
The issue is that the centre of the light source is in a different location and runs 90 degrees out from a filament, so the light is not controlled in the correct manner by a lens not designed for it. Lenses initially manufactured and designed for an LED light source are perfectly legal within ADR, so it's not that ADR needs to change, as there is already scope within it for those.
Cops have done blitzes from time to time here where I live. Much less of an issue if you have projector lenses to control the light output, it's mainly old school open face reflectors that are the problem.
I can assure you, through many experiences, cops will NOT pull you over for these.
yeah.. Unfortunately….
I find it so fascinating people are so picky about that over the complete opposite, the amount of people i see driving around with a half-baked single headlight, i'd rather get some bright lights into my face for half a second (Which is still far less projecting than a high beam) than barely seeing a car approaching at all
@TexasVujicic: Its not that deep mate, especially not deep enough to be fascinating. One headlight being out doesn't blind oncoming drivers. And you present this as if we can only have either half stuffed headlights or illegal, badly adjusted blinding LEDs, have you considered the option where people just maintain their car to the manufacturers specifications?
@TexasVujicic: Not seeing that one car is better than not see anything at all after being blinded by the moron on the other side of the intersection with an improperly fitted headlight.
@Dan_: they're not that bright man. relax man. they're definitely brighter but you're not stuck blind.
So how are they selling brand new cars with led headlights?
Factory LED headlights are engineered to properly spread light output.
@pressPlay: I think that is what Dandaman21 was getting at, that ADRs DO allow for LEDs, contrary to TexasVujicic's claim that ADRs only allow for filament globes.
Please don't fit these if you have reflector lenses.
+1
Older Toyota Hiluxes and Nissan Patrols a common culprit.
This comment is what everyone on the road need to know.
Cool more people will be on the road with these lights in their stock reflective housings or uncalibrated projector housings…
Can't wait!
I knew of a bikie that smashed out a guys headlights for having led or hid dropins, I think he might have also smashed out one of the side windows but can’t remember if I’m confusing that with one of his many other crazy antics.
Yeah, I live rurally and the number of vehicles (mainly utes) going around with uber bright headlights (still low beam, though) is frustrating at night. I'm often squinting or looking away until it drives past.
I just replaced the halogen globes in my ute and went for the Osram long life ones. I did a bit of research in the globes (can't help myself, being an engineer) and it turns out that the blue / high intensity (e.g. 125-150%) ones last nowhere near as long. I was looking into it because I only just changed the globes a year and a bit ago. The blue / high intensity ones are rated to 300-500hrs whilst the normal ones are rated at 3000hrs. There are some in the middle, I think they are 20% brighter, still yellow but will do 1000hrs. If you're driving with your lights on for say half hour each day, the 300hr rated units will (on average) blow after a year or so. The long life ones are also cheap (~$30 vs $100 for the high intensity ones).
Those Osram long life's are dim as though, they were worse for brightness than the factory globes I replaced them for.
I fitted LEDs that were as close in dimensions to halogens after that.
The LEDs that are the problem are the ones with non standard dimensions and the ones that are unshielded on the low beam.
I just get mine off Aliexpress for like $25 a pair.
I was about to write the same thing. They are available on Aliexpress for a significantly lower price.
Yep, if you're going to be illegal, might as well be illegal and cheap.
This was my logic.
Yeah cause they know you aren't wasting your time with a warranty/returns claim for something that costs $25. The whole idea of chasing bottom dollar is going to bite us in the ass one day when there are no longer any quality options and we are rebuying things two, three, four times over, adding to landfill and eventually spending the same amount as the quality stuff anyway.
Last time i checked mine were working fine some 5 years later, same can't be said for the halogen bulb that it replaced.
@Drakesy: Yeah, the same can be said for halogens actually. All depends on the quality. But congrats on completely missing the point, I am glad your one specific instance has been successful.
@doobey1231: *i've actually purchased around 10 sets of these off aliexpress over the years and none of them have failed, all my cars run them. The yellow ones sh1t on the stock fog lamps.
But sure, use the ChINa BaD rhetoric.
They literally all come out of the same factories, just these are branded differently and pass through a number of middlemen.
@Drakesy: Im not using the china bad rhetoric I am using the basics of not taking anecdotal evidence as proof. Ie, random stranger on the internet telling me something is good.. trust me bro.. Yeah right.
Yes they come out of the same factories, yes they have different stamps for different "manufacturers" on them. You know what varies? The quality control, the warranty and the after sales support. All of which don't matter if you take the gamble and don't have an issue, which like I said, I am glad your one specific instance has been successful. Its all smooth sailing until it isn't and therein lies the problem.
@doobey1231: 2 set over the past 10 years, first set lasted 8 years with 1 side dying, second set is 2 years in. each set cost me under 40$ shipped.
Where do you think the Narva ones are made?
My unbranded LED globes that look suspiciously a lot like the 1st gen Narva LED globes came from China.
Yes they come out of the same factories, yes they have different stamps for different "manufacturers" on them.
Please read before commenting. This has literally nothing to do with the the country of manufacture, continuing to miss the point if you think thats what this is about.
@doobey1231: I can read, thank you.
I'm not going to spend $100+ on quite literally the same thing I can get for $20-$30.
All I'm doing is cutting out the middleman and dodging the abhorrent markups they put on products that come to this country.
I can read, thank you.
Then make use of your skill, instead of repeating the same thing. Its the last time im gonna say it - you are not just cutting out the middleman, you are also cutting out proper customer service, warranty and quality control.
Do I need to spell it out? I said yes they come out of the same factories well before you made the snarky "where do you think the narva ones are made". Seriously we can have a proper discussion about this but its not going to go anywhere if you pull that sort of snark. If you can actually read it means you went out of your way to ignore me already addressing the point you were trying to make, thats just silly.
You got down voted a fair bit but what you say is true. Consumerist society. I guess people don’t like it.
How did you check compatibility /fit?
Does it fit in correctly and work as described ?
As long as you match the bracket type H7,H9 etc. it'll be plug and play.
Only issue is if you have a Euro car with CANBUS resistors (VW, Audi, Porsche) where the car will give you a warning light because it cant detect the bulb due to lack of a resistor.
Did you have any issues with the design of reflector housing? I am planning to recommend this to a relative who owns 2011 / 2012 Toyota Prius overseas
The ones from Aliexpress, were terribly dim and started flickering after a while. Maybe I got duds, but they were not good
Yeah it's luck of the draw,
Anything say $20 and under were crapola.
$25 was the sweet spot for something decent.
Just goes to show how much these are getting marked up.
Don't look how much these go for at SCA/Repco/Autobarn lol
https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/narva-narva-gen-iii-led-…
@fat queenslander: NGL the last car i had (an Audi) had this exact pair installed, worked great although threw a Canbus error code. Replaced them with a $25 pair off Aliexpress and they had the same great performance, just without the error code.
Brilliant.
@Drakesy: Would you mind sharing the seller or brand at Ali Express as you seems to be good at picking the better quality sellers
How did you find the "right" ones? Did you just search like "H7 LED" and look for the same looking item? Or are there other keywords to help?
Looked up my car headlight bulb/reached in and had a look at mine.
I didn't mean the car compatibility, I mean the good quality/bright/long-lasting LEDs. In this case like the same factory as the Narva ones?
I've been trying to find a decent pair on AliExpress, any chance of a link?
Anyone tried these on a 2011 / 2012 Toyota Prius
reflector housing not designed for it, which means you won't get a good beam pattern and you'll dazzle other drivers
I've never had an order successfully delivered from Sparesbox.
My experience twice in a row is radio silence for a few weeks until I contact them for an update and just get given a refund.
I have purchases a few times from Sparesbox eBay platform, generally they are good although some items can take a while to ship but never have to chase up or cancel the transaction. From April to June, i have made 4 transactions with Sparesbox eBay, all were extremely quick delivery from the warehouse 3 suburbs away. From my memory, most of the deliveries were via Courier Please.
I've used Sparesbox numerous times in the past and never had an issue. They are occasionally a little slow on dispatch (a couple days), but not to the point where I'm wondering what's going on.
Yeah no.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/it-is-illegal-to-upgra…
Good luck getting your traffic fine paid by the seller
Don't rely on fitment guides for these things.
Rarely do they fit in sealed/enclosed lights. Their "answer" is to just leave them unsealed and have the heatsink sticking out the back.
Only problem with that is all the dirt and gunk from the engine bay then goes into the light housing… which goes completely against the reason they were sealed in the first place.
More dirt = less reflection = less light!
Don't fall for the hype… unless your car headlights are designed for LED globes, don't bother.
The latest LED designs aren't too glary. I had the Stedi's in a couple vehicles and the cutoff was sharp, no glare, etc. Very thin wafer between the leds keeps the light source far closer together than the cheap fat heatsinking designs. These also do not have the cutoff "hood" the stedi's do, it seems.I imagine they're glary as shit
All the tired parroting of "headlight design" and yada yada is outdated .
The original and current cheap LED drop in's are very illegal, for very good reason.
The top end one (Stedi, Phillips) are fine, but still technically illegal. You would not be able to tell, side by side, I guarantee it. Apart from the cleaner, far brighter output.
Can I install it on the back of my car so it shines back at whoever is using their reflector headlights?
https://imgur.com/a/guVPUqP
Ah yes mega glare, enjoy your blotches of bright light.
These looks like they'd blind Stevie Wonder!