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pretty cheap, seems to be a pretty big seller of refurbished hard drives in the states, shipping is expensive but cheaper if you buy more drives, 5 year warranty but you probably have to ship it back to the states?
[Refurbished] HGST Ultrastar DC HC520 12TB SATA 6GB 256MB 3.5" HDD US$82.49 + US$27.58 Delivery (~A$166) @ GoHardDrive eBay
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it's the shipping from US that worries me more tbh
poor form JV
Yes, this model does not travel well.
Have your experiences lead to any favorites for refurb drives for a NAS or other thoughts?
I'd originally planned to shuck the wd 18tb externals I've been picking up (hoping they were still using the same drive) and then buy a few more to complete the raid.
$/tb has increased quite a bit instead of decreasing though so im tempted to try refurbs. Keep the externals for some extra redundancy and maybe plug one into mum's router filled with media to cut down on the facebook time ;)
They are manufacture refurbished so HGST has given them the tick.
I bought 8x of these 12tb for a ZFS pool from serverpartsdeal, they were extremely well packaged. Can't speak for goharddrive but similar outfits.
I ran smart checks, full badblocks, f3write+zpool scrub for checksum errors across all 96tb and everything passed.
They've been running 24/7 for 6m. Early days but I don't think I'll ever be buying new retail drives for bulk storage ever again.
If redundancy & resilience is your concern you should be having spares - and when they're this cheap it's kinda hard to justify why you'd be better off paying double for brand new. Unless you're running production or something.
The only call out is the noise - these are enterprise drives, they love rattlin'
Can you comment on how noisy they are real world vs something like WD Red Plus 8/12TB?
Put it this way, when they're active it's about the equivalent volume of a mouse click. Now click 10 times in a second to simulate a platter. Now have 8 drives doing it. Now have ZFS run checks every 5 seconds.
I tolerate it fine, but they aren't suitable if you care about noise at all, and plan on having them in the same room as you. I can hear them clearly from another room. If they're stashed away in a server closet somewhere who cares.
NOTE: These HDD is used by Datacenter Servers for about 5 years period.HDD was refurbished and data wiped with DoD Standard.It's fully tested & passed HGST factory diagnose software test with ZERO Bad sectors!Since this is a heavy duty enterprise HDD with 2.5M-hour MTBF rating.We are confidence that to honor another 5 Years Warranty from these hard drives!Buy with confidence & Worry Free!
US seller, means US warranty, means US shipment back for claim.
Be likely cheaper to buy two of them to cover if one goes IMHO not worth the risk,
HDD's have a bathtub warranty, either early on in their life or at the end of their life
True, but with a 2.5M MTBF, the end of their life is on average 285 years. That's a wide bathtub.
Don't put these in the bathtub
Are these helium drives?
G01-1549-CR-5YR ] HGST Ultrastar Helium Datacenter Hard Drive (Certified Refurbished) - 5 Year Warranty
helium drives
with the high voices?
Why is it 'the high voices' and not just 'high voices'?
@jv: Also, the use of 'The' is improper. Voices are always voices. I see you never learnt this. But I suppose spending hours on ozbargain making irrelevant pointless comments has hindered your progression of learning basic English grammar etc.
@BrutusB: She's probably used to describing the ones in her head that way to her shrink, the voices that tell her to keep posting here constantly contrary to professional opinions.
Killer price, my 10tb I bought earlier this year has been stellar. Finally collating all my data onto to one HDD. I'm in for this to back up that HDD. Thanks.
From the same seller???
No it was through Amazon. Iirc it was around AUD$150 for the 10tb.
Damn i wish i saw that deal
Who was the seller ?
@mmd: Geez I had to go search, it was the 8th Nov 2023, sold by Amazon UK, they're now selling them for $206.83. It was the last one, but it looked like it was always the last one. That's why I didn't put it up on OB. Wasn't sure if it was the last one or not.
Edit: this is the 10tb I purchased, to clarify
Hmm tempted. This is cheaper than those from east digital something store, correct?
D'Refurbished' = wiped?
Doesn't sound refurbished to me, just used.
US$82.49 + US$27.58 does not equal ~A$110
It's around A$164
US$82.49 + US$27.58 (~A$110)
???
AU $462.71 for three delivered.
OP please fix A$ price. It should be some A$165 - not A$110!
beware, this sort of refurbished very easy to die. I got one 8tb die. Luckily it was raid 1
Same deal with https://serverpartdeals.com/
They sell new and refurbished. Lots of WD DC550s on there, also lots of Seagate EXOS.
The refurbished prices definitely don’t come with five year warranties though, only two iirc.
But they have a good selection of sizes and models, and they are on eBay as well, but the shipping is expensive.
I know someone who has bought at least 18 x 18TB refurbished models a mix of EXOS and the DC550.
He put most into a QNAP TVS-h1688X
Which is a beast of a NAS, ended up putting Proxmox and TrueNAS on it.
I know he has another box for drives, it might be an 8 bay expansion module for the QNAP.
He buts the “ Manufacturer Recertified Drives”. 8 x EXOS 16TB first and then thrashed those on testing. The second lots were the WD Ultrastar HC 550.
That NAS though, it’s over $5K US but it’s got Xeon CPUs and I know he has upgraded the ram and put 10Gbit cards into it.
Since he lives in the US, it isn’t hard to send a drive back for warranty. But he was reluctant to buy them, but he figured Manufacturer Recertifed with 2 years warranty given the price was worth the risk. Before those first lot of EXIS he only touched WD and still prefers the Ultra HC550 as they are data centre drives iirc.
His NAS is a beast, and he’s bought some new case and slowly filling it six drives each purchase.
When converting all that in AUD, it’s staggering.
He has had any of the Manufacturer Recertified drives from server fail. However they aren’t being thrashed afaik. He is just data hoarding.
As I mentioned serverpartdeals have a shop on eBay Australia now, but shipping is a killer and year, if you get a failure you’ll have to send it back to the US.
But I look at Manufacturer Recertified a bit different, you’d expect they are going to test every sector if the drive and given some are very recent models, it’s not like they’ve been running for three years already. Can’t recall what he said about the smart info, but pretty sure it showed the actual drive hours on them, but don’t know for sure.
I was 16TB or 18TB - probably easier to migrate from my old four TB drives.
I do worry about what box I’m going to put them in because the mid range SynoS and QNAPs aren’t cheap and have pretty terrible CPUs. Imagine how long to rebuild a 18TB drive.
I’m hoping these new UGreen NAS boxes come with i3 or i5. I’m sure their 8 bay had a i5 or something in it.
That's a bit of a brain dump. You need a TL;DR.
I was editing down then you replied, now I can’t. lol.
serverpartdeals have an eBay AU store or you can buy direct. They have manufacturer recertified as well as new, EXOS and HC550, but no way these drives have been in the field for three years looking at the drive numbers. Maybe some if the older 12-14TB possibly.
I know of someone who has bought the 8 x EXOS 16TB and the rest of the drives are WD Ultrastar HC550 in a very high end QNAP NAS, but he has bought an expansion bay for it. So fair no failures. But the drives aren’t being thrashed, just active storage, and is buying some for cold storage as well. 2 years warranty on the manufacturer recertified.
QNAP TVS-h1688X is an expensive NAS, but has decent CPU power. What I was saying is because he lives in the states he doesn’t have to convert everything to $0.66 and shipping is often free.
Is that small enough now?
… or this:
I have a friend that bought X of these drives for a NAS running 24/7 on medium load for X amount of time elapsed with no failures.
In my opinion, It's worthy to buy these if you live in the US as my friend does, or else here in AUS we're stuck with additional costs that doesn't make this as attractive from a cost/warranty/return perspective
@BrutusB: Point taken but it was more about the model of NAS he had and where he got the drives from so ppl can check out those “manufacturer recertified”. Which so far, has had zero failure on 6 x Seagate EXOS 16TB and 16 x WD Ultrastar HC550 18TB.
The smaller the drive, you’d want to check the year the model came out as those may have been a DC on a 100% duty cycle for three years.
any new IronWolf's going on special, its been months!
better off looking for a local alternative on ebay with coupon imho
shipping these locally is bad enough, wouldn't take the risk internationally
avoid sellers that aren't praised for shipping/packing
couple of years ago i picked up at 14tb toshiba datacentre spec for $200, was 250 before coupon, had like 2000 hours
toshibas are cheaper though, probably because they are quite talkative when writing, speeds are impressive (250MB/s) and power consumption low (newish model) - if using 24/7 it should be a consideration imho
True. But if arrive damage seller should be paying for return fee, right?
how do you gauge the damage, the thing can read and write fine but longevity will be impacted by rough handling
the longer and further you are shipping it with non standard package the shorter it's likely to last
i have hard disks that are 20 years old and working fine
i also have an 8tb shipped from shopping express in on oversized box so the original packaged box slided 30cm every time it was moved
the 8tb was fine, initially - but after a few years it was dead
note: do not buy hard drives from shipping express, not even external
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/355636028647
bought from this guy, better than stock packaging, so good that you could probably punt it across the road
with an ebay coupon you might be able to get a price close to the deal above
As much as I want to expand/upgrade my NAS, these things are a pass for me.
why?
Because for all I know they've been sitting in a server bolted to a shitty comms rack getting flogged for years, and these guys have just yanked them out and found the ones that pass whatever tests they run over them.
I can't be bothered having to shuffle data and potentially buy new drives because one finally craps itself, my current drives might be ~5 years old but at least they sit there doing nothing the majority of the time.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/355636028647
can recommend this guy
low hours, superb packaging
iirc it had about 2k hours on it - even if used from manufacturer date they are pretty new so hours wont matter much, heat is the only worry
been using a toshiba 14tb from him for maybe 1 to 2 years 24/7
@desync: Hmm with code they are $210.. hmm… my nas capacity is 80% now (from total 10tb) not sure if its time to upgrade or should wait till next year i recon i will hit 95%
I'd say this is different from "FR Factory Refurbished" ones. The latter come with proper OEM-standard quality while seller refurbished are basically the same as you repurposing a 5-year HDD yourself. Though you can argue they're definitely authentic drives (purchased from a trustworthy channel) that already burned-in in a controlled environment.
Buy with caution.
one review said:
Good thanks. A bit shocking that the drives had over 1PB (yes petabyte) of reads though.
HGST Ultrastar DC HC520 12TB SATA 6Gb 256MB 3.5" Enterprise HDD- HUH721212ALE601 (#156046813385)Thats a lot of writing. The deal was looking more attractive until i saw that.
Seems to vary so much with these ex-enterprise drives between a couple of thousand hours to up to 50,000 hours writing at full tilt.
It is however a testament to these WD/HGST drives that they will do that much.
I can't seem to get combined shipping working, has anyone figured it out?
The Description says: "cheaper if you buy more drives" but I can't see how?just slightly cheaper i got 2 on my cart total aud $314-317 depending exchange rate
That's all in need to read….