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Benelli Bravo eBike $1,234.05 + $10 Delivery ($0 SYD C&C) @ Mobileciti

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Friends, cheap e-bike enthusiasts, business owners & philanthropists, I bring you an excellent deal if you were looking for a present, business tax deduction, or new commuter E-Bike. I've owned this bike for nearly 2 years & just ordered 2 more for wife & best friend.

My original post/purchase: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/733126

The mountain bike variant 'Benelli Mantus' is also on sale, with 5% discount code for $1,424.05 (https://www.mobileciti.com.au/benelli-mantus-electric-mounta…)

Usual online price for either of them is between $2.2-$2.9k.

My notes from previous post below, with additions at the very bottom of what I recommend you upgrade/swap out having now had it for 2yrs.

I spent a long time researching for a budget (but still good quality) e-bike, and I can say after riding this around for 2 years it has been an excellent purchase (I was really afraid would have buyers remorse after purchasing an E-bike and getting a lemon, tho see notes at very bottom for the full picture.)

Key pros I like about the bike in no particular order:
1. Mid-drive motor (Better performance, control and lifetime on parts instead of rear wheel/hub drive. Also, don't need a special wheel, and all my online research said hub drive motors crap out 90% more often then mid-drive.)
2. Battery built into the frame (i really didnt want a bike with a battery sticking out for both looks, aerodynamics and theft protection. This one is inside the frame with a key to release. You can charge it by plugging it straight into bike frame, or take battery out and charge that way)
3. Disc brakes, with hydraulic fluid for better braking
4. Normal handle bars so I dont have to hunch over (the road bike handles are just less comfortable. Yes, less aerodynamic but so much more comfortable and that's what the battery/motor is for)
5. Front and rear mudguards included (so dont get wet spray on my back or shorts.)
6. Front & rear lights included, built-in and powered by main battery (so I no longer need to worry about lights getting stolen, or taking off to recharge, or forgetting to put back on & then cycling in the dark, such a convenience!)
7. Hybrid build (includes suspension for a comfier ride and not exclusively limited to road surfaces)
8. Thick tires (over a road bike anyway, so I can use on grass, dirt, loose surfaces and not just limited on roads, not that it's an off road bike. Also safer as more contact with ground.)
9. Rear tray included (for whatever exta things you want to take. Though I'm looking at swapping this to a rear seat for small people)
10. Kickstand included, just a nice convenience
11. Range - easily get 80-90km on assist level 1. Though on my actual full assist for max speed daily commute I get 45km, which is really impressive given the speed/level of assist.
12. By changing some settings in the console, motor cut-off speed can be altered from 25km/h to 40km/h (for use only on private property of course)

Cons:
1. Heavy, to be expected for a budget version with all these features. Having lighter components and frame is what starts to increase the price.
2. Off brand motor (i.e. not a bafang) so can't speak to how long it'll last but comes with 12 mo warranty. Will post update if motor ever craps out, but it's a mid-drive instead of hub so I expect some decent mileage.

After owning for 2 years I can recommend swapping the following:
1. Brakes - to basic Shimano as the current ones suck/get loose too often. (Can delay it until your first big service)
2. Chain ring - to any ring that has narrow wide teeth to improve grip on the chain/stop chain skipping.
3. Chain - the one supplied will last 3-6months, but is crap so just get a new one for $40-50 when get a service.
4. General note - sometimes the on button doesn't work & you need to turn it on by pressing the on button on the battery itself (means taking the water protection cover off). I assume it's a wiring issue/something to do with cheap build. But I mean, for this price that's not a big issue for me, and if it really bothers someone a bike shop may be able to fix for a fee. Hopefully mine is the exception & it doesn't happen with yours.

Aside from these pointers it is an excellent bike (hence buying 2 more for the wife & best friend). Hope this saves others about 10-20 hours of online research and indecision

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Comments

  • +11

    Just a warning these I believe are 1-size only and are pretty big. The standover height means you need to be pretty tall

    • +2

      @op what do you think of range of person height to be able to use your bike?

      • +9

        I'm 182cm and it's been good for me, so I'd assume 10cm up/down from that should be fine, but would recommend researching frame to size ratios if you're outside of that height range.

      • +1

        Just measure your inseam… As long as you can safely stand over the bike (without all feet flat to the ground) you should be fine.

        Ebikes are heavier than normal bikes so its crucial to get the standover height shorter than your inseam whereas normal bikes you can sort of safely tilt them at traffic lights as they're not that heavy.

        My wife is tiny hence i know how much of challenge heavier bikes can be for her.

        • A standard eBike weighs between 20 and 25 kilograms including motor and battery. Can someone explain to me why the 5kg difference is important?
          Especially when you consider the average weight of the rider is 80kg. How in the hell does a difference between 100kg total and 105kg total make any bloody difference?
          Even if your wife weighed 60kg it is not going to make much difference in the long haul unless she has very weak muscles.

          • @iminabrons: No one said anything about 5kg difference…

            Basically ebikes in general are heavy.

            If you're short, having a 20kg bike leaning at traffic light then trying to start pedalling again can be a bit awkward due to the weight but at the same time the unnatural extra torque from an ebike propels you faster than expected…

            A normal cheap bike lets say at 12kg even if slightly too big, its a bit easier to start pedalling from stopping.

            If you have an ebike but the standover height is lower than your seam, that means you can standover the bike with both feet flat to the ground… Its much less awkward to start pedalling from zero.

    • And yet the peak load is only 105kg. At least they give a weight limit. I am really looking for a bike with a 150+ weight limit.

  • +15

    Outstanding post, especially the opening herald 😁 I know nothing of ebikes but after reading your post I know a whole lot more!

  • +19

    10/10 post description OP

  • +13

    Should be $1234.56 + $7 delivery. I would have ordered

    • +16

      I prefer $123 + $456 delivery

      • +3

        Optimal

      • I'll take a $1 click and collect thanks.

  • +5

    A reminder to look for supply of replacement batteries BEFORE buying an ebike.

    Otherwise this really checks alot of my ebike list.

    Mid drive. Hydraulic disc brakes. Bonus lights, mudguard inclusion, rack.

    • A reminder to look for supply of replacement batteries BEFORE buying an ebike.

      whats the reason behind this? battery deterioration?

      • +1

        All batteries deteriorate over time like your phone. If you use ebike very heavily like I do, by the 5th year the battery will be like 50% capacity, if not less.

        Knowing you can buy replacement in the future, for how much, and where is a plus. Just to be clear I'm recommending you search for replacement, not necessarily buying it now.

        • i see. ive been riding 100km weekly and charge twice weekly.
          is it better to rotate the batteries? or keep one in storage for later?

          • +1

            @mmd: You don't buy the replacement until your current battery no longer holds sufficient charge.

          • @mmd: Dunno. I'd just buy it only when I need it, but I'd know where to get it in the future

        • +1

          Is that you Mike Ross?

        • @lawyerz what brand are you using? My Giant ebike has done 8,000km over the last 4 years and seems to still have the same range.

          • @finlaycollins: was using some cheapo 'velectrix' brand from 99bikes. probably part of the reason but I used to average 10,000km a year. so a whole lot more kms.

            bought new batteries from 'cap rouge' after about 5 years - works well enough

        • The Samsung battery on my e-bike died after 6 years. To replace it would have cost $950 Australian but I bought the lesser range one which cost $650. This means I have to recharge it more often which shortens the life span but since I'm getting on it was the smarter choice.

  • if these are like benelli motorcycles then its owned by the chinese

    • +3

      sweetie, most ebikes are made by the chinese

  • +3

    Not all time low. been $999 before

  • -7

    dont wanan die

  • +5

    This is probably a knock off Bafang M600, possibly made by Ananda (Chinese company that do carbon copies of Bafang stuff) but who knows. The issue isn’t so much the motor but the battery, as I’m not sure how well the batteries and the motors are configured to get the best range. The Ananda motors (M100) are meant to have decent torque, probably comparable to a Bafang M510 but my understanding is that they drain fairly quick.

    The other issue to consider is the brakes. With something throwing out decent torque, as well as extra weight of motor battery, you need to consider how good the brakes are. As well as the max weight the frame can hold. This says 105 KG, which usually includes the bike and the rider.

    Anyways just food for thought. There’s no $ amount needed for a decent ebike as some of the non-OEM frames actually have some decent specs on them, but some of these cheaper bikes are cheaper for a reason.

    • +1

      i have the pedal falcon which has the Ananda M80 model and can get about 80km out of one charge from a 14ah battery
      There's 1 hill and predominantly use pedal assist level 2 or 3 out of 5.
      the motor cutoff at 25km/h

    • Agreed on breaks & that's one of my recommendations to upgrade/swap out. The stock included ones loosen up every few months, so I got the very basic Shimano hydraulic disc brakes for about $200 when had the first service & they've worked a treat.

  • +1

    this is good specs other than the unknown motor and amount of torque.
    A similar bike will cost around 2300 at 99 bikes https://www.99bikes.com.au/pedal-falcon-v3-midnight-blue

    What groupset does it have?
    how does it go up hills OP?

  • +2

    upvoted just for the description alone

  • -3

    In China, with $600, you’d get top of the line model.

    • +6

      How much the import fee to Australia?

    • +1

      In china at that price, it explodes.

      • +2

        You just stereotyped on cheap Chinese goods. I travelled and lived there there and I can tell you e-bike has been popular there for 20 years. It’s got super mature market and products. the mid range e-bike sells for about $400 today, also looks better than this.

        This one more looking like the $300 price range back there.

        After mark up, shipping, GST, wow,$1200!

        • Should start a drop shopping company

        • +2

          I'd love to know which brand/model you can buy for only $300 in China? with central motor, hydraulic brake and hidden battery

  • +1

    Looks good. What sort of gear range does it have?

    https://www.panmi.com.au/product/benelli-bravo-electric-bike…
    That site says "Shimano ACERA 1X9 Speed" which is a lot better than the 7-speed freewheel cheapies.

  • +2

    Honestly hub drive underrated.

    Hub drive will last forever and is cheap to replace. Check out all the asian delivery drivers and what they running.

    The mid drives burn through chains espically if you ride them hard and often. You might be lucky to get 3 months out of a chain. Same goes for gears you will be changing them pretty often.

    Mean while I've done 30k+ Kilometers on a hub drive and worn down the the tyres and brake pads many times before the chain which barely gets worn. I've also gone through 2 batteries.

    You really want a replaceable battery it's the most expensive part of the bike, and you really want good quality cells. I'm not up to date on what brands are currently good but it's normally the Japanese and Korean brand batteries.

    • +1

      Totally agree about the batteries. Can confirm 2 years on this battery hasn't had much degradation, still getting about 90-95% capacity.

      Regarding chains, I've gone through 2 chains in 2 yrs (so 1 per year). I agree there's more wear on chain then my non electric road bike. Tho they're about $40 so I'm ok with that cost & can change myself or add it to a normal service. Might come down to personal preference/priorities.

    • +3

      I hate hub drives. They've made the wheels so heavy that with with rear panniers, they hit every pothole and bump extra hard. They broke spokes of my wheels a few times. Changing tyres and punctures are such a pain. Will only be looking for mid drives moving forward

      • Totally depends on what you're using it for.
        If you want to pedal and don't mind shifting gears mid drives are good.
        If you want mostly throttle DD hub motors are the best. Geared are the ones that need maintenance.
        I've put 10's of thousands of km's on my hub drive. I have a golden motor magic pie 5. Plug and play. Have done ZERO maintenance.
        Must use a good quality ebike rated tyre.

      • How much extra does a geared hub drive add to the rear wheel weight?
        I would say between 2-4kg. Not exactly a huge amount. Carrying around shopping, and/or a full backpack, and/or full panniers are the main problem.

      • Yup.

        Weight balance is hugely important once you ride even slightly off road, especially loaded with panniers.

        Mid drive torque can definitely wear chains and cassettes but they are way less hassle to replace then getting wheels trued and rebalanced.

        I had so many issues with one wheel after 3 spokes broke (1 then 2) that it never came good and I had to replace it completely.

        • I use an MTX rim and a Schwalbe Marathon E-Plus Tyre. Unknown spokes?
          I've never had any problems.
          I am careful when riding over sharp transitions. Like on/off foot paths, over railway crossings ect.
          I do a mix of on road and bike paths.
          Have had some big unseeable impacts and it is concerning for sure.
          Since I do mostly 'flat' trails/roads the weight doesn't effect me at all.
          And I like the fact that I never have to change gears.

  • +3

    When’s the next application open to become your best friend?

    • +1

      When the current one gets caught sleeping with the wife

      • +8

        Then I'll have 2 vacancies 🤣

      • Thats your problem

  • I think the best friend is still paying for it. It's not like child support :p

  • So what are the wheels like? I don't want to ride on the road, I want the footpath

    • No , thats more of a tyre thing .

      • Sorry, I meant what are the tyres like? I don't want to go replacing the tyres immediately if it comes with pure road tyres. They look wide enough in the photo but I'm not a cyclist so don't know

        • Find your rim size and do some research , even ring up some bike shops .
          Thats what i did .

  • +5

    Mobile phone businesses should stick with what they do best. Selling bicycles without listing detailed specifications is like advertising a phone without a screen size ? They don't even list the wheel size, frame size or anything detailed for that matter…

    Bares similar resemblance to Reid's models and same for the MTB. Motors could be Ananda M100 or Tonsheng which are fairly decent. Tick for 14.5Ah battery.

  • +1

    I have done some research on this as well. 14.5ah should only give you upto 60km purely on battery. Normally it runs around 40km. And please be prepared after 5years, the battery is dead. If anyone knows how to use Taobao go there and buy and ship from China. It's 48v plus 15ah, the price is around $500 and another $100 for shipping.

    • Link? and cells/ balancing used in battery pack?

  • 26 kilos lol how going to move if flat battery

    • Carry it

    • +1

      An extra 10kg is not much compared to total weight of rider+bike.

      On the flat, not much difference. On a climb, you go one gear lower? Its not like those stupid fat-tyre bikes that are barely rideable without battery power.

      • +1

        Ehhhhhh really disagree.

        I've pedalled a 23kg eMTB home on the easy side of a mountain, it was tough compared to my 12-13kg hardtail.

        And I ride everyday

        • That is a perception thing. Try putting in the same effort (as measured by heart rate) with the same cadence on both bikes, and see what the time difference is.

  • +5

    Whats the difference between these two bikes? or are they the same? $1,163.90 With code NONFY20

    • And free shipping

    • $1,154.88 using PLUSF22.

      Looks the same, Sydney Mobile is Mobileciti.

  • Oh looks like a good price aside from the size. Was interested in Valk Metro but this is fair bit cheaper hmm

  • Business tax deduction?

    • He might be referring to the $20k business write off

  • +1

    What's the risk of this thing catching on fire and burning my house down?

    • +2

      Charge it at work

    • +1

      same risk of mobile catching on fire in pants and burning balls.

      • Not really. My phone quality is top notch. Not so sure about these random cheap lithium ion batteries being imported.

    • Your chances are good 👍

    • Charge then outside would be the obvious choice.

      These are way more risky then mobile phones.

      I've had two close friends one with an ebike and the other a premium electric skateboard both catch fire while charging.

      Id treat it like a gas bbq keep an eye on the the battery and make sure no swelling and keep it outside while charging.

      I'm not battery phobe I've got a Tesla, 2 ebikes and a Segway… But I've also had 2 mobile phones catch fire and a friends work place burn down because of a faulty ebike battery.

  • -8

    Full of lies

  • Someone explain the tax deduction aspect of OPs post

  • -5
    • +3

      It’s been OOS. This is not how downvote works mate

      • I think it points to inherent value. The moderators decide whether it's a valid down vote, but I'm appreciative that they are pointing out that it has been cheaper so I hope they leave the post up.

      • -1

        It has been cheaper. Altough it is OOS, however, it indicates that price is feasible. They can do that price.

        Just remember, COSTCO warranty and refend policy is MUCH MUCH MUCH better the other sellers.

  • +1

    999 delivered and ill bite

  • What about a bike for your wife's son?

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