EOFY 15% off Store Wide from 21/06 to 30/06
We offer 2 years warranty on all products.
Free shipping for all order over $100.
All orders are shipped out from our Clayton warehouse, we only sell the product we have on hand at the warehouse so no overbooking, no waiting for customers, order before 1pm are shipped out same day, order after 1pm are shipped out the next business day.
evse.com.au also has a 15% off EOFY bargain going on, taking a typical 22kW 5m type2-type2 cable down to about $178 which is an amazing price, usually only see these on sale for almost $200 at best. The comparable inchargex cable comes down to about $195 with their 15% coupon, falling short yet again.
The only problem with evse.com.au is that their prices usually have you over a barrel, pants around your ankles and nary a bottle of lube in sight.
Some dangerous statements in there not backup with truth.
Chargers are considered Level 3 risk and needs testing for compliance to standards. https://www.eess.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/001-EESS_…
Testing must be done by a testing house/lab, not any electrician. It's a complete teardown and validation against standards or a assessment of another compliant international certification previously done with certificate. https://www.eess.gov.au/registration/registration-in-scope-e….
Standards require RCBO to be at least type A, however good quality chargers will cover Type B, which has more fault conditions covered. The cheaply made chargers didn't have a proper isolation circuit and when a short occurred internally, full 240V through the cable.
In the unlikely event that there is a fire, insurance always finds a way not to pay out. Non RCM is an easy out for them to save $$.
There are thousand of factories in China building EV chargers. They are not coming out of the same factory as stated. Everyone has their own design, but the base design is very similar.
Essentially Cheap chargers are cheap due to the quality of components, non certification etc. No doubt there are companies pushing cheap chargers as expensive. Without teardowns and making an assessment, there is no way to know for sure. If you buy OEM, its still not guaranteed to be high quality but significantly higher chance it will be. Other option is to buy something proven.
Good example are the apple chargers vs cheap chargers comparison and how people have died from using cheap replica chargers. https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/faulty-usb-phone-charger…
EDIT: i accidentally clicked upvote. I didn't mean to upvote this deal, cause i don't think it's worth an upvote.
They are not coming out of the same factory as stated.
They literally are. I even found the listings last time for the identical units that OP sells, and they even offer to put your branding on them if you pay a dollar or two more for the privilege.
And after the RCM testing of one or two units, you can import them at will. They dont all have to go through testing. It is a sample group and then you can import them en-masse. Just need to keep paying the RCM fee every year.
In the unlikely event that there is a fire
and how people have died from using cheap replica chargers.
Got the stats on just how many house fires were started last year based on the ignition point being a "Chinese made granny charger"? How many people have died as a result of using cheap EVSE chargers? The Murdoch media would be all over this with their anti-ev smear campaign. They seem suspiciously quiet on the subject.
This particular charger, you've done the research, not disputing it.
However you made statement that any sparky can get you RCM. No that's not true.
Yes. you can change the design of the unit and non-the wiser. That's down to the integrity of the supplier. Very common in the industry even with major brands for cost cutting measures, swapping to inferior components etc.
As i said, unlikely event the charger is the source of the fire, no stats, but i've seen plugs burnt in the various ev forums.
A good quality charger will have a secondary relay in the event the primary relay fails closed leaving the circuit active. Something like the Zappi charger has the additional protection which you pay good money for.
However you made statement that any sparky can get you RCM.
Care to link to where I said "any sparky can get you RCM"?? I cant find it. I find it weird that I would have said it, because I know from having stuff RCM approved for a place I used to work, that it had to be a certified inspection facility, not just "Joe Blogs Electrical". What I may have said was I get my own personal units test and tagged through work when they are testing all the other equipment. Test and Tag is NOT the same as RCM testing or certification. Ironcially, you dont even need to be an electrician to do Test and Tags.
Yes. you can change the design of the unit and non-the wiser.
And you really think they can be bothered making one setup for INCHARGEx and a different unit for every other person that asks for a quote? What's to say that the units being imported by INCHARGEx are not the now lower spec units with cheaper parts?
Something like the Zappi charger… which you pay good money for.
Again, this is different. Zappi is a known brand name with their own R&D and manufacturing. What Zappi dont do, is bulk buy out of Alibaba, ask them to put "Zappi" stickers on them, start up a Shopify/Wordpress website and sell them on OzBargain. There is a reason Zappi is more expensive than INCHARGEx. Much the same reason Dyson is more expensive than Anko for stick vacuums.
@pegaxs: "Nah, they are literally the same units as what you are selling, just with different housings and different branding on them. They almost all have the same button configuration and run the same firmware. I can literally buy a carton full of these units and have an electrician test one of them and apply for my own RCM approval." - Quote from your previous post.
This is a level 3 risk category and requires a lab as i've listed the approval process in the post above, not as per your words "have an electrician test one of them and apply for my own RCM approval"
I'm not disputing the shoddyness of this brand as I've said. You do get what you pay for for most parts, and some brands will buy cheap and try to sell it as a premium product as per previous statement i've made too.
@zeomega: I literally can have an electrician test one for me… The RCM "approval process" is different, but none the less, I can still apply for RCM approval. My intention was not to suggest that my electrician was enough for RCM approval on its own, so I will concur that my comment was poorly written and confusing in this regard. What I meant was that I could have my electrician test the unit to make sure it would be ok to submit an application, and then go through with the RCM certification process that would include being tested by an authorised testing facility as part of the RCM application process…
The point still stands, if I wanted too, I could buy a pallet load of these, send a few units in for testing and get my own RCA approval based on sending in one or two units for compliance and then spend the next year shipping these things in by the container load with little to no further testing or compliance checks.
Agree that these EVSE would be an "in-scope" device with a "level 3" risk assessment. My suggestion is not that people should or should not buy these, but that if you are going to buy cheap, no named Chinese generic EVSE, then they are best to do some homework and look into buying direct, as these are identical to the units that Alibaba are awash with… If you "truly" want "safety", then you buy a named brand, like Zappi or Wallbox or Tesla or Ocular… and leave the generic crap well enough alone.
The RCM is not some "magic protective bubble" because someone says they have it on their product. Plenty of houses burn down each year based on electrical appliances that are RCM compliant. If these ones are RCM compliant, it would be a safe guess that any of the identical clones from thee same factory would also be very very, if not identical in construction. ie: theses ones are not "safer" based on nothing more than some "official paperwork".
@pegaxs: I also want to make people aware that, whilst it's cheaper, there is inherent risk that you need to accept, be it incredulous or not that if an event occurred, it's a get out of jail card for insurance.
The official paperwork just provides assurance that the "right" thing is done and that you are legally covered.
@zeomega: I’m surprised you didn’t pick up on the image Pegaxs linked with alibaba chargers costing circa $170-$200 with $60 shipping which incidentally costs more than InchargeX.
The ones that cost less have a minimum order quantity of 20
https://inchargex.com.au/products/portable-ev-charger-type-2…
That’s his proof of better deals out there.
And reminder, Ali has no warranty, and probably takes weeks to arrive and isn’t certified, and again not cheaper (unless you buy 20).
And that’s without even mentioning this is a Aussie business vs an unknown Alibaba seller, which doesn’t matter to me, but some people may choose to support local businesses, which I can understand.
That’s his proof of better deals out there.
No it isn't. The photo is to show the chargers all being identical, not for the pricing. The fact that these chargers are not unique to INCHARGEx. I was not showing it to prove a point on "prices". I even made comment to the prolific nature of these "generic" type chargers, not that their prices are better than this post. Even in your last questions about this, I used this same screenshot as an example of how "generic" these chargers are, and even said that this was not about price, but about being "generic".
This price is better than OP's posts, and under the voting guidelines, I can downvote a deal which is not the best price.
some people may choose to support local businesses
And good on them, but this is OzBargain, not OzSupportSmallAussieBusinesses. I come here for the best prices, not the "close enough, but at least you are supporting an Aussie business" prices. And in your last post, I actually said that if John went to the trouble to give you a discount code, support him…
The thing I don't support, is spamvertisments. This is the same deal posted regularly. So regularly in fact that some nuclear internet time clocks are starting to check their universal time accuracy against how regularly these posts happens.
Just going to add you to the ever growing list of unofficial vote police. If you feel my vote is in error, please use the "report" button and notify someone with the power to review it.
@cloudy: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/EVSE-Mario-manufactur…
https://www.marioev.com/Mode2-Type2-pl3855919.html
2 mins search gave me the links above which pegaxs may not be wrong to say it's just branding. Until someone splits open the alibaba and the inchargx and compares it side by side, one can assume the internals are likely to be the same.
Now you are also right to say: weeks to arrive, fat cat tax, warranty, RCM (for insurance and legal purposes).
It's down to the consumer to decide if it's worth paying the difference.
Same thing with buying coles/woolies banded food vs other name brands, when it all comes out of the same factorie with very similar ingredients. In some cases coles/woolies have better ingredients.
@zeomega: I’ve researched as well, and found like you, direct from suppliers it’s circa $200 range, which $119 usd plus GST when it arrives comes to about $200 aud.
But it also states…”Shipping to be negotiated. Contact supplier for more details.” and minimum order quantity is 2.
So now, direct from supplier, it’s still $200 + shipping, and min order 2 ( no one needs 2…) plus all the other things previously mentioned.
Vs
$238 for one delivered….
I don’t see why so many people neg the $238 choice, but I’ll stop rationalising it, clearly it’s a poor choice for some.
Say not to OzFreeAdvertising.
Dude your basically a walking catalogue for supermarkets, well over a hundred posts for things I see in my junk mail, and here you saying no to free advertising….hypocrisy at it’s finest.
Finally pulled the trigger on the Tesla UMC 5 pin adaptor for $154.69. Thanks OP.
Welp, time to hand in my ozbargain badge! I'll see if there's an option to cancel the order then.
Edit: the guys from INCHARGEx were fast with replying my email to cancel the order and done it within 5 minutes. Definitely fantastic customer response, but alas I went with cheaper alternative.
Thanks @korda for linking the cheaper option!
Damn you got me tempted now! I doubt I’ll ever use this but then I might hook up a 32a circuit t home and just use the umc instead of installing a wall connector.
Does anybody use these 5 pin sockets enough to justify buying one?
Yes, we do exactly this. My brother installed a 32A socket in his garage and uses the Tesla UMC with this 5-pin adapter as his home charger setup. I don't have a 32A socket installed yet but I do use my 5-pin adapter + UMC in parking garages where 32A outlets are available. 7kW is good enough for home charging, the car can fill most of the tank during the cheap electricity hours.
edit: my home charger setup is just the UMC and Bunnings extension cord, I get by just fine on 2-3kW.
@korda: Ok you talked me into it
Got 5% off using code US21
So $80.75usd which came to $121 delivered.
Again. Posting fake deals. At the rate these "deals" are posted, this appears to be the normal price.
As mentioned other times, these are the exact same items you can buy of Alibaba, but without the branding. There are not spec'ed any differently or have some different "safer" setup inside them, they are generic, Chinese made granny chargers that you can get off eBay for almost half this price.
InB4: But those Alibaba ones are not "RCM/C Tick" compliant… Sure… but they are identical to the units sold here. There isnt any magic going on in these that isnt in the ones sold on Alibaba. At the end of the day, I would rather spend my money on a Feyree branded unit with no RCM, than to buy some bulk buy, Chinese no-named brand with "INCHARGEx" stickers on them.
(Note: Your appetite for risk may be lower than mine, so I am not suggesting that people buy random charging brick off Alibaba, just that what you are getting here is the same thing as those, just that INCHARGEx has sent one or two in for testing and paid a fee. Nothing more.
I don't think anyone is disputing that the chargers themselves are any different to those you can find on eBay or Alibaba, but should something go wrong and they do catch fire and you need to claim on insurance, what happens when assessor looks at the charger and asks where it was purchased and was it certified for use in Australia (ie, RCM tick). If your answer is it was imported from China and has no certification for use here and they deny your claim, is that worth saving $100 on the cost of the unit? If you can show it was purchased from an Australian store and has been through the certification process for use here, then surely it can't be used as the basis for denying a claim.
Everyones appetite for risk is different of course and some may be willing to potentially give up your insurance to save $100, but I think its an important fact to make people aware of.
Again, your appetite for risk may be different to mine. At no point am I "suggesting" that people should buy cheap Chinese bulk buy chargers, what I am saying is that these are "no different" to those units, as they come from the same factory, just with personalise branding. Nothing more. It is up to the individual to do their own homework on if they are safe to use.
And again, I would certainly put more faith in a well known and established brand that has a track record for making good quality EVSE units that dont have RCM, over INCHARGEx bulk buying unknown, bulk buy deals and getting their stickers slapped on them after having one or two of them tested and some paperwork signed.
My suggestion is that they dont make one type of charger for INCHARGEx, and a separate one for anyone else. It's the same charger… just INCHARGEx paid a premium for "self branding" and if that sticker is worth an extra $100 for you, then so be it. These are generic chargers sold in bulk on Chinese wholesale websites. I am not saying that these ones, or the ones sold on Alibaba are safer, just that they are the same thing.
I am also stating at this point that this is just advertising at this point. These 15% off deals are more regular than my morning ablutions. It's giving me the impression that the 15% off price is actually the "real" price.
Inflating prices to make them appear like bargains. Agree with the above comments.
How do you define or infer inflated prices from this deal?
I see you have posted deals where the discount is 90%… this strikes me as inflated RRP if discounts of that magnitude is possible.
yeah I have a tesla mobile connector don't need this, but I here some people with BYDs like them.
Johnny the Boy has done it again. This time it’s a post with no bargains. He’s never gonna learn. But we are gonna teach him bubba.
https://youtu.be/DWARF-8ywzs?si=8Pcm4RtpaXFuJYqY
To all the EV Gurus - a genuine question; is it worth considering an option for a portable Type 2 7kW charger with wifi option like this one:
https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005005504929776.html
I have a BYD Seal and was looking at a charger that I could set in my garage by getting a sparky to run a dedicated 32A circuit from the switchboard and hook up something suitable that is also portable. Keen to hear your thoughts about the above link when comparing to this product from INCHARGEx
Yes using a portable charger as a home charger is a valid option. See my chat above with choofa, plenty of people use the Tesla mobile charger as a home charger on a single phase 32A socket. The bonus is that you can take it with you if you need.
That particular aliexpress one doesn't seem to show the correct wall plug for Australia so not a great choice out of the box, I wouldn't touch it. I would assume for the price it doesn't have temperature monitoring at the wall plug, unlike the Tesla UMC tails.
On the plus side the wifi looks to be Tuya so it's good for home automation if you're into that.
Man, I bought a 5 pin 7 kw charger 2 weeks ago after it being out of stock for sometime. Wondering if the company will refund the 15%
Wondering if the company will refund the 15%
Probably they won't considering they have been online since your comment and would have read your comment and didn't bother responding to your query.
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That would have been a good PR move but nah.
Watch them now respond "Hi, sorry did not see your message".
Yea, it is a pity because I even messaged
them when it is out of stock asking if I can get it before EOFY and they didn't mention the sale. Pity because I even promoted this product in BYD facebook forum.
The product itself is working as intended and seems like quality is good. I have my car set to receive charge at 12am (ovo 8c rate) and it gets fully charged overnight.
Let's see if they come out with a resolution.
Update: John refunded 5% to me. Better than nothing.
Happy with the product and service so far.
@BEZ2311: well based on comments last friday, https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/15408847/redir , im not surprised. John has repeatedly, without requirement, provided service you dont get from most.
Yet the sarcasms and nasty attacks on this business continues for reasons who knows.
Maybe they are just learning from you
so are these InchargeX chargers reliable? Just requiring a Tesla compatible Type 2 portable charger with a 10A plug … or which aftermarket charger do you suggest?
It appears your prices must be jacked in order to keep posting these fake deals with no bargains listed. Not really what OzB is meant for. Say not to OzFreeAdvertising.
Also as mentioned by member Pegaxs -