Surveillance Pricing - The More You Know

Howdy y'all, I wanted to share this illuminating piece on how your browsing habits and other data is now being used by companies to change pricing based on an enormous quantity of data points collected about you.

Deals from McDonald's regularly appear on this site, which is what made me think of sharing the article and posting an excerpt from the piece. A lot of you might know about this already and it's good you have your eyes open to this, but lots of people might be unaware of just how shady these business practices are.

One Person One Price - Digital surveillance and customer isolation are individualizing the prices we pay.

"You might be aware that fast-food companies like McDonald’s have begun pushing customers to their app. Deals on the app are extremely good, at least for now: $1 breakfast sandwiches, 20 percent off any purchase above $5. That’s because McDonald’s, whose CEO has talked on earnings calls recently about a “street-fighting mentality” in winning customers, wants to burrow into phones, where they can access more personal data and get people hooked on an app where specific prices can be customized to the user.

What McDonald’s is doing is almost a throwback, kind of a high-tech loyalty card for the digital age. Worldwide, 150 million active members are now on the McDonald’s app, which is run by a company called Plexure that specializes in “personalized mobile engagement.” McDonald’s has a nearly 10 percent stake in Plexure, which also works with IKEA, 7-Eleven, White Castle, and more.

A Plexure slide presentation viewed by the Prospect stresses the power of customized engagement. It starts with using a cheap offer to entice users to purchase though the mobile app. After that, various factors go into the process of “deep personalization”: Time of day, food preferences, ordering habits, financial behaviors, location, weather, social interactions, and “relevance to key moments i.e. pay day.”

It doesn’t take much brainpower to devise ways to exploit this data. If the app knows you get paid every other Friday, it can make your meal deal $4.59 instead of $3.99 when you have more money in your pocket. If it knows you usually grab an Egg McMuffin before class on Wednesday, or that you always only have an hour to eat dinner between your first and second job, it can increase the price on that promotion. If it knows it’s cold out, it can raise the price of hot coffee; on a scorcher, it can up the price of a McFlurry. And the app gets smarter as you agree to or turn down those offers in real time.

It doesn’t sound like much, but with 300 million customer interactions across its range of apps every day, Plexure can magnify tiny price shifts into real money. The company promises that using its app strategy will increase frequency of orders by 30 percent and the size of orders by 35 percent."

It's an alarming read, but better to know than remain in the dark. Cheers.

Comments

  • +1

    Technofeudalism - it's a real thing, and more pervasive than anything ever.

  • +9

    This is why I don't install apps.

  • +1

    Dynamic pricing; it's been a thing for quite some time, just that now companies have more data to inform price increases or decreases.

    And to be clear, it doesn't necessarily matter if you use an app or not - it's all about if you're identifiable. If you have to provide (for example) an email address to log in or place an order, that's enough to 'link your data to previous activity' and adapt prices in realtime

  • +6

    Pay cash to a middle man to make the order at the Maccas kiosk then meet him out back later for the drop off. Only use code names. Mr black. Mr white. Mr orange rubber ducky etc

    • Just make sure it’s not the hamburglar

  • +1

    Plexure can magnify tiny price shifts into real money

    McDonald's has been doing this for a while at the store level. Prices vary store to store. They are not just shifting it to person to person!

    • +1

      Stores that are franchise owned can set their own prices.

  • +1

    AI is just going to make this worse. Or better, if you own a store that uses it, depends on your POV.

  • +3

    The author of the article also has a chat about the article here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQeTosCxMcQ

    He also talks about ride sharing apps which will charge users more if they have really low battery, because they know if they don't hurry and make a decision their device will run flat and they'll potentially be stranded. That is some diabolical shit.

    • +1

      Uber has on 2 occasions charged me more for my saved default "home" in my app rather than random house 2 doors down. Was about $4 difference.
      Gotta be careful these days.

      • Best you not try 13cabs … Far worse than Uber.
        The truly exploit you.

        Have experienced similar to you - but was a $10-$12 difference.

        13cabs also suddenly add on an extra surcharge - when they discover that you live close to the airport - 15 mins (a short fare).

    • The author of said article … While having created some tv docos (sadly not in last 3 years - and has now moved to YT) … Just saying

      Does not make a credible person - who i would base 100% of my reasoning on.

      OP : some parts of your post I agree - but many I don't.

  • +1

    They started this almost 20 years ago when they jacked up prices in low socioeconomic areas.

  • -1

    We are witnessing societal collapse before our very eyes.

  • -3

    If we wanted to read news articles we would read them on a news site and not a bargain site.

    • +1

      If we wanted to read news articles we would read them on a news site and not a bargain site.

      We?

    • +1

      The entire point of the article is to highlight that some of these bargains might not end up having as low a cost as you might assume. Can't see the connection there?
      You were not obliged to read it or to make the effort to reply.
      Cheers.

  • +2

    I've also noticed that Australians are beginning to avoid small businesses and have intensified their purchasing habits on franchise or big businesses. For instance we have highly concentrated super market brands that other countries don't have, like Bunnings with effective monopoly etc.

    It's the migrant or new Australian types that are comfortable shopping in small business, probably because that's normal overseas. It's ironic because shopping at small business is what supports your community and counters this whole big data big business drive.

    • I had to buy some eye drops for my toddler. The small non-chain pharmacy was selling it for double the price of Chemist Warehouse. I don't mind paying a little more for the convenience, but double, yeh I'm not coming back. Hard not to make assumptions that small business' won't be able to offer good prices.

    • Most small businesses are insanely overpriced.

      Why is there an assumption that small business is better? Some are great, many are not.

      If I start a small businesss to take your wage and give you back 95%, will you automatically support me beacuse I'm a small business?

      • I believe the idea is that without the small guys to compete with, the big guys will charge/do whatever they like.

        Competition is the best thing for a market and consumers.

        • I definitely agree, but this already happens through small online businesses that are direct to consumer.

          There is simply no solution outside of this.

          You can spend 50 years spending $250,000 extra at a small business just to try and keep the big guys in check but lets be realistic, the only person losing is you paying $250,000 extra.

          I'll also say that in most cases, new businesses can appear tomorrow to compete when the big businesses are overcharging us, the only exception to this are businesses that require an insane amount of money to start, but this only really applies to tech companies like Youtube or Nvidia or Intel.

  • +1

    Thanks.

    Some people might think this isn't a big deal, but it is.
    Some people think they aren't vulnerable to this kind of manipulation, but they are.

    It should be really fun when supermarkets go in full force on this same strategy. Look forward to being blanketed with nonstop cheap deals on sugary treats after your mum dies

  • +1

    i swear ozbargain posters are watching where u shop as well. i was searching for a product once and a few hours later a post was up with a sale.

    crazy

  • I will only buy maccers if it has a deal otherwise I go elsewhere

    some may think maccers have therefore clearly won, but really I have won scoring a cheaper feed than I would have otherwise bought

  • this came out about airline fares a few years back
    if the system sees you as a person who buys on the first click then you are targeted for PRICE JACKS

  • It actually sounds pretty good to me, I go rarely enough that I should get the enticement deals all the time.
    In practice I actually went to a MacDonalds this year, tried the app and it offered me a good deal on the specific thing I was going to buy anyway. Unfortunately after ordering and paying it said "sorry there was a problem at our end" and by the time I'd actually managed to get the attention of a staff member to ask about it I had run out of time so just cancelled the order. Maybe that will get me a bigger discount offer next year?

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