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[QLD] All Fares $0.50 on Translink SEQ Public Transport Network (Bus, Train, CityCat/Ferry, G Link Tram) @ Translink

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[QLD] All Fares $0.50 on Translink SEQ Public Transport Network (Bus, Train, CityCat/Ferry, G Link Tram) @ Translink
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ilove on 26/05/2024 - 07:08 statements.qld.gov.au (4068 clicks)
Last edited 30/11/2024 - 14:27 by 4 other users

50c fares: Qld’s public transport fees slashed, no matter how far you travel.

Public transport fares will be slashed to an unbelievably low price, no matter how far you travel, under a major pre-election trial aimed at easing gridlock and easing cost-of-living pressures.

Update 01/06/2024:

Steven Miles announced Airtrain fares will be slashed by 50% for six months from the same date. Now permanent. See updates below.

Mod: Add started date, end date, linked to public source.

Update 30-Nov-2024

The Crisafulli Government Makes 50 Cent Public Transport Fares Permanent

  • The Crisafulli Government is making 50 cent public transport fares permanent on all Translink networks across Queensland.

The Department of Transport and Main Roads will now make the LNP’s 50 cent fares permanent on all Translink public transport networks in Queensland.

Queenslanders will now permanently continue to travel on South East Queensland (SEQ) bus, train, tram and ferry services, as well as Translink urban bus networks across the state, for a flat 50 cent fare.

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Comments

  • AustriaBargain on 26/05/2024 - 08:09
    +8

    I guess a nominal fare like 50c is a compromise between free and expensive. I always thought if 90% of bus travel is to shops or commutes to workplaces, then shops and businesses should be paying to subsidise the buses. And the people without cars visiting family should just get a free ride as a thank you for not congesting the roads.

    • RockyRaccoon on 26/05/2024 - 08:25
      +1

      What if …

      Retailer, loves the customer, so pays for customer to come to shop.

      Problem is when customer goes another shop, or still shops from home.

      And some bureaucrat thinks lets run more buses so there are more "customers", retailer pays even more.

      Retailer then puts up prices, goes bust or person who catches bus there pays more.

      • AustriaBargain on 26/05/2024 - 08:55
        +1

        Just charge all businesses equally. Not many people will be catching a bus to visit the Mercedes dealership, but they can just suck eggs. The admin costs of bean counting is exactly what my proposal wants to avoid.

        • RockyRaccoon on 26/05/2024 - 09:47
          +1

          So Woolworths pays the same as Aunty Joans Recycled nickknacks, so the govt can save admin costs…

          • AustriaBargain on 26/05/2024 - 09:54

            @RockyRaccoon: If the public transport levy was 0.2% then I'm willing to bet Woolworths would be paying significantly more than Aunty Joans Recycled knickknacks. Aunty Joan would probably pay very little, but if every granny in the area can catch a bus to her store for free, or for 50 cents, it might actually help her business. Woolworths would be the ones hurting because people need to eat and would catch the bus to get there even if it was $10 for a short trip.

            • RockyRaccoon on 26/05/2024 - 10:59
              -1

              @AustriaBargain: Please explain.

              0.2% on what criteria. Without knowing that it's meaningless.

              On Profit, Turnover, staff numbers or what

              • AustriaBargain on 26/05/2024 - 11:06

                @RockyRaccoon: It was just an example. Suppose you'd have people punch a ticket on the bus and then have the shop or employer validate their bus trip each day? That's bean counting. Waste of money and time.

          • 1st-Amendment on 26/05/2024 - 11:33
            -1

            @RockyRaccoon:

            So Woolworths pays the same as Aunty Joans Recycled nickknacks

            Most taxes are proportional to income so no.

            so the govt can save admin costs…

            Once you learn that the government has no money of its own, it's your money they are spending, then it will all become clear.

            • trawg on 26/05/2024 - 13:02
              -2

              @1st-Amendment: the only thing better than knowing my family's public transport expenses are going to drop from about $71/week to $10/week while improving traffic, reducing emissions, etc) are the tears of wannabe libertarians

              • 1st-Amendment on 26/05/2024 - 13:04

                @trawg:

                are the tears of wannabe libertarians

                You don't seem to understand what that word means.

                • trawg on 26/05/2024 - 13:16
                  -1

                  @1st-Amendment: pretty sure I know what 'tears' means, I'm literally drowning in yours at the moment.

                  clueless libertarians that whine about tax without having even the vaguest, most remote suggestion with which to replace the tax system. the benefits of our tax dollar at work are visible literally every time you open your eyes.

                  make a better 'free market' suggestion for how you'd like to see transport in a big city improved. based on your handle I'm assuming you'll pick something from the US?

                  • 1st-Amendment on 26/05/2024 - 13:38

                    @trawg:

                    clueless libertarians

                    You are the one who can't define it nor explain how it is relevant to the topic…

          • Crow K on 26/05/2024 - 21:55

            @RockyRaccoon: As ideas go, it's a nonstarter.

            "We're saving bean counting time by

            REMOVING

            a system whereby the individual taps a digital card at both ends of the trip and gets charged the exact amount of travel they personally use

            And REPLACING it with

            Somehow gathering information from them (both quickly and reliably) on where they are travelling and for what purpose, so that we can then issue invoices to those places to be paid at some stage in the future."

    • donga100 on 26/05/2024 - 23:20

      Businesses already pay tax. Tax is what is predominantly used to pay for PT (more than fares).

  • itslittfam on 26/05/2024 - 08:14
    +25

    Need this for NSW! Sick of paying $12 return for a shitty rail system which is never on time, and a system so fragile that one small incident cripples the entire network.

    • Fergy1987 on 26/05/2024 - 08:18
      +10

      Its the same in qld. 15 return for me and god forbid it rains. As soon as it rains youre at the station for 30mins minimum waiting for a train

      • askvictor on 26/05/2024 - 08:53
        +12

        Melbourne too. Seems like Australia is just a bit shit at public transport

      • Binchicken22 on 26/05/2024 - 10:58
        -7

        Can't talk down the unions around here mate, those people sitting behind the sticks of a vehicle that's literally on rails deserve their 150k salary mate ;)

        • Crow K on 26/05/2024 - 14:18
          -4

          The politics of envy are alive and well

          • Binchicken22 on 26/05/2024 - 15:11
            -1

            @Crow K: Naw but seriously, we are nearly at the point of automating cars, which have 1x billion more variables to deal with… How TF are trains now automated yet.

            • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 15:13
              -1

              @Binchicken22: "AI Train" sounds like an awesome title for a disaster movie 🙃

            • Crow K on 26/05/2024 - 16:31

              @Binchicken22:

              we are nearly at the point of automating cars

              Well, no. Unless you mean "nearly" in the same way we have "nearly cured cancer" (it hasn't happened yet but we keep working on it and getting "closer")

              • Binchicken22 on 26/05/2024 - 17:09

                @Crow K: Nearly in relation to trains on rails. Trains on rails should be automated by now, there is no argument.

                • Crow K on 26/05/2024 - 17:19
                  -2

                  @Binchicken22: Same intelligence and knowledge of subject as saying "cancer should be cured by now, there is no argument".

                  Unless you actually have some credentials or applied knowledge on this subject, it's time to end the TED talk and sit back down on the pub stool, Brofessor.

                  • Binchicken22 on 26/05/2024 - 17:26
                    +1

                    @Crow K: Oh FFS, trains operate on tracks. Everyone knows they could easily be automated. Stop being painful. Go down to your local model train show and they'll show you how trains can run without "drivers".

                    This is not in anyway comparable to "curing cancer" as you keep desperately trying to bring this back to.

                    • Crow K on 26/05/2024 - 17:38

                      @Binchicken22: "Tracks" don't stop trains from tipping over, derailing or crashing? They still happen in the thousands worldwide, with gigantic costs (That Ohio derailment last year was in the hundreds of millions alone)

                      Hurr durr go look at some toy trains it's easy

                      The toy trainset you got for your birthday that you push around stays in its tracks, but it's a lot simpler. I think you should stick to that one and leave the big million dollar adult ones to people who, you know, study and work in the industry?

                      • Binchicken22 on 26/05/2024 - 17:42
                        +1

                        @Crow K: Ok so obviously drivers don't stop derailments either lol.

                        Maybe things like speed sensors, tilt sensors, ultrasonic sensors etc could be utilised to process these dangers faster and more efficiently than humans? It is 2024 after all…

                        Don't worry, I'll leave you alone now Mr train "driver".

                        • Crow K on 26/05/2024 - 17:46
                          -1

                          @Binchicken22:

                          maybe the tech boffins can use computers to solve all these problems???

                          I mean, yeah, they're working on it. Like cancer cures and the driverless cars? Do you think they were sitting around waiting for someone with your skill set to say to them "maybe you guys should use speed sensors"?

                          It's 2024

                          Oh well, if it's (present year) then obviously this stuff should be available now, yeah

                          Mr train "driver"

                          I like how you used a child's understanding of how a train works to vastly overestimate how simple the problem is and then when I gave you a dose of reality it's me who gets the sarcastic nickname

                          You were wrong then, and you haven't learned anything.

                          Maybe stick to subjects you know about next time (there would have to be something, surely)

                          • Binchicken22 on 26/05/2024 - 18:09
                            +1

                            @Crow K: I could almost guarantee I know more about industrial control than you do mate.

                            A simple google would have shown you that everything I said was true, possible and already implemented in various places around the world.

                            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_driverless_train_sys…

                            Go back to comparing train driving to curing cancer, that was such a great analogy.

                            • Crow K on 26/05/2024 - 18:27
                              -3

                              @Binchicken22: It was an example of how while a problem is known and being worked on, it doesn't necessarily imply a fast or simple solution.

                              Or in other words, it's dumb to say "come on smart guys just use technology it's 2024 already solve it yeah".

                              I could almost guarantee I know more about industrial control than you do mate.

                              Mmm. Is "industrial control" the fun grown-up word you use when you play with your toy trains?

                              Either way, I feel like you've already given us enough examples today of what you "know".

                              Have a little break, maybe a bit of screentime before mum puts dinner on? Two Blueys and then it's right to the table, champ.

                      • SlickMick on 27/05/2024 - 08:49

                        @Crow K: Was that the derailment at the same spot as numerous others, that could have been avoided by a sensor that has never been implemented?
                        Or am I thinking of another one?

    • Rick James18 on 26/05/2024 - 11:18
      +1

      Damn son

    • TurnipHead on 26/05/2024 - 11:46
      +1

      imho, the rail system in Sydney is pretty good nowadays. Seem to be much less delays and higher frequency than 10 years ago and the non-aircon trains are gone.
      Yeah it is prone to issues with bad weather or safety incidents (but that's not much different to the roads).

      • darkmattersunB6c0MV on 26/05/2024 - 15:20

        Sydney rails are one of the worst I have travelled in.
        And I have travelled in a few around the world.
        They are over crowded, congested and very expensive. Even for a trip from Milsons Point to Wynyard, a literally 2 km, 3-4 min ride is $4.
        For an unreliable, often delayed trains in peak hour.

        I say charge what you are charging, but improve the quality of service.
        The ageing infrastructure has failures that brings down the entire system. God forbid, one of the days a hacker decides to bring it down - I am not sure how secure their systems are.

  • choister on 26/05/2024 - 08:15
    +1

    Will it apply to Airtrain as well? Or this is considered private service?

    • pangwen on 26/05/2024 - 08:35
      +4

      The News Corp articles say Airtrain is excluded.

      • TheJoker on 26/05/2024 - 09:19

        All trains from Varsity Lakes go to the airport. Does that mean that whole line between GC, City and airport is excluded?

        • pangwen on 26/05/2024 - 09:21
          +6

          Two elements to that question:

          1. Not all trains from Varsity Lakes go to the airport. Some only go to Bowen Hills or Doomben.
          2. Going by how reduced fares were done previously, it's only trips that start/end at an Airport station (Domestic or International) that are excluded. This is how it's done (for example) when you have an event ticket at Suncorp (or something like that) and the promotion is "free travel on all trains except Airtrain". There is no exclusion for being on a train that happens to continue to the airport, as long as you don't get on or off at an Airport station.
          • TheJoker on 26/05/2024 - 09:22

            @pangwen: Ok great. Thanks for taking the time to explain 👍

        • M00Cow on 26/05/2024 - 10:05

          it's just the same as it is now.
          you pay tour fare for what ever zones you travel +$22 if you get off at the airport stops.

          new fare should be ~$22.50 to airport from any station.

        • dtorr on 26/05/2024 - 16:37

          The Airport line is considered private ownership at 0.330km on the Airport line from the turnout from the Suburban lines after Eagle Junction.

    • MrThing on 26/05/2024 - 09:26
      -2

      of course its excluded :s

      the traffic at the airport is terrible. clearly this is just a vote buying exercise not a true reducing traffic issue

      • Name on 26/05/2024 - 11:16
        +9

        It's just because the section of rail between Brisbane and airport is privately owned, atleast for the next 10 years. So the government can't set prices on that section.

        • MrThing on 26/05/2024 - 11:39
          -2

          they can subsidise it all the way to 50c trips but

        • Navin000 on 27/05/2024 - 19:37

          God i hope the gov buys them out. I expect free travel during the Olympics with the gov paying this private entity through the nose for, followed by a big price hike when the Olympics finishes.

    • Mike Okkerts on 26/05/2024 - 11:04
      +1

      50c to Eagle Junction them it's just a free 10k walk!

      • nikey2k27 on 26/05/2024 - 16:28
        +1

        Tomball to sky Gate bus free airport bus t1 t2

    • Chris T on 26/05/2024 - 12:07
      +4

      The Brisbane Airtrain is a pathetic ripoff. Use the hack documented here to get to/from the airport terminals by public transport and the free bus to/from Skygate/DFO.

      • Russ on 26/05/2024 - 21:27
        +2

        That link could be documented a bit better. The 590 bus mentioned actually goes both ways between Toombul bus interchange and Garden City interchange, stopping at Carindale bus interchange and Cannon Hill interchange, and at many other bus stops along that path. This makes it much more useful for people in southern suburbs.

        Map of the route is here, click on "show map": https://jp.translink.com.au/plan-your-journey/timetables/bus…

        The rest of the info in the link is accurate, although they skip mentioning the airport shuttle bus only runs every 30 minutes, so you could be waiting a while. The link does mention that the shuttle bus doesn't run between 6pm and 6am, so no good for catching late-night flights.

  • Pingus on 26/05/2024 - 08:21
    +15

    This is a great incentive for people to stop using their car and try the train. Hopefully it gets extended when they see the positive impacts

    • Iluvfreebies on 26/05/2024 - 08:26
      +7

      I also hoping they would add more services.

    • CookieJacker31 on 26/05/2024 - 08:34
      +6

      It's a great theory but you need to be close to the trains to walk to the station and the end station needs to be close enough to your destination you can walk. If the government wanted to do something useful then building free multilevel parking at train stations would be a great start. Once people are in their cars it's just easier to drive if they have to fight for a park or catch multiple trains/buses.

      Most of the trains stains aren't set up for parking and riding, they are for locals, with tiny or even no car parking. It's why the council/state have focused on train station based densification. You don't need parking if the people live next to the train

      • pangwen on 26/05/2024 - 08:39
        +9

        While that idea sounds good in theory, multi-level car parks are now obscenely expensive (common problem across all building now) and it would be better to provide housing in that land so more people are close enough to trains to walk - this would also help the housing issue.

        For people who aren't close to the train, increased high frequency bus services in the suburbs (including feeders to interchanges for those locations which are uneconomical to provide direct services to the CBD from) are the way to go.

        • CookieJacker31 on 26/05/2024 - 09:00

          I definitely agree. Carparks cost the government money while rezoning for apartments makes the government money. Big car parks only make sense the further out you get.

      • ferguson on 26/05/2024 - 10:00
        +4

        These kinds of initiatives will also therefore help the demand to push for better public transport services everywhere.

        When a city has excellent public transport infrastructure, everyone wins.

      • Name on 26/05/2024 - 11:25
        +1

        They do "on demand" services in some areas of the Gold Coast where they'll pick you up and drop you off from your home and the train station / other centres. It's a great way to address that "last mile".

        https://translink.com.au/travel-with-us/on-demand/gold-coast

    • RockyRaccoon on 26/05/2024 - 09:59
      +2

      Fantastic if you are young, fit, kid free.

      For the rest, new 2 bed apartments by the train are just a dream, or waiting for a retirement package.

      We arent all young, tertiary educated, mobile and able to live with limited spaces .

      Something comes with the life experience of getting older.

  • TooSerious2 on 26/05/2024 - 08:22
    +16

    This is a better cash splash than power bills, and I live outside SEQ.

    And no need for a means test - it's mostly self selecting.

    • CookieJacker31 on 26/05/2024 - 08:48
      +3

      It's a fun, if expensive, experiment. We can measure lost income vs increased usage. Will people go back to the office? Will they really get out of their cars? Will it get people spending more in unexpected ways if they are travelling where they wouldn't normally bother? "Visit Nana at Nambour on the weekend" or "Ride to Rosewood" "wonder what's at Wellington".

      • leiiv on 26/05/2024 - 14:10
        +3

        Many experiments a.k.a researches are expensive by it's nature. Nothing wrong in doing it for public good. But the problem here is whether they will do the right action based on the results or it is just a temporary vote buying thing.

    • EspadaV8 on 26/05/2024 - 09:26
      +8

      I'm curious about any potential reductions in car accidents and pedestrian injuries. The money spent reducing the fare could possibly save far more than it costs in health care treating people from car accidents.

    • RockyRaccoon on 26/05/2024 - 10:03

      Its for 6 months…. by the time most work out what train goes where and how they can take advantage of it, the election will be over.

      If not then this will mean good luck getting a train seat for the next 6 months.

  • Lizard Spock on 26/05/2024 - 08:37
    +10

    They should get that African American rapper to endorse the 50 cent fares. You know the one? Dr Dre

  • superforever on 26/05/2024 - 08:38

    Not NSW 😭

    • pangwen on 26/05/2024 - 08:41
      +3

      I believe the 50c deal applies to the 700/760/768 services from Tweed Mall interchange (Northern NSW) to the Gold Coast.

  • jimmej on 26/05/2024 - 08:42
    +2

    Are you putting on extra trains and buses? They are already crowded. I might need to pay for parking for 6 months…

    • Helenn on 26/05/2024 - 09:56
      +1

      We've lost our local train station for year long upgrades, no extra buses and peak hour is already like sardines, buses super late, or no bus altogether because it goes past full. Drivers have turned the air off too because it's getting a bit chilly, except when you're jammed in up to the door in the aisles and stuck sitting in traffic for 30 mins. Good luck to the newbies trying the bus out anyway..
      Regardless I like this, trip feels like about 50c worth and glad it includes out of Brisbane

  • Sinnerator on 26/05/2024 - 08:44

    everyone sells their cars
    PT price hikes to $10

    • pangwen on 26/05/2024 - 08:46
      +3

      PT price hikes to $10

      That's still cheaper than adult peak fares between the Gold Coast and Central station now.

      • parabola3410 on 26/05/2024 - 15:00

        And it's still far cheaper than the multitude of costs associated with owning a car.

  • beach bum on 26/05/2024 - 08:46
    +8

    The trains are already full going into the city in the morning ,
    like a very long schoolbus .
    They’re going to need to need to put on a bunch more trains to keep up with demand and finish demolishing/rebuilding Roma St Station and their Billions dollars under river extension.
    I expect we’ll see all this in our electricity and rego bills next year .
    Why in a state most suited for Solar are we still all in on Coal ?
    Revenue Perhaps ? Enjoy your Cyclones,Tornadoes and Blackouts Future Queenslanders !!

    • Meowcat on 26/05/2024 - 12:03
      +5

      https://www.energyandclimate.qld.gov.au/energy/energy-jobs-p…

      The state is literally going all in on solar, hydro storage and other renewables but keep ranting.

      • beach bum on 26/05/2024 - 12:08

        Is that a Qld govt website , I’m sure it’s not biased at all .

        • Meowcat on 26/05/2024 - 12:12
          +3

          tinfoil intensifies

          • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 12:20
            +4

            @Meowcat: You could use that tinfoil to reflect more sunlight on your solar panels too! Total win/win!

            • beach bum on 26/05/2024 - 12:40

              @AmperSand: Did you get that off the website ?
              Lookout for the new qld government rebate on tinfoil 🎓

              • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 12:49
                +1

                @beach bum: The secret to generating more solar power the government doesn't want you to know about. Click here to read more and find out!

                • beach bum on 26/05/2024 - 13:08

                  @AmperSand: They need to dump the Olimpdics we can’t afford and get back to basics ,maybe some train lines to all these mega development's they keep building in the middle of nowhere infrastructure wise , but as long as it doesn’t affect the nimbys is Brisbane alls good .
                  It’s no wonder NQ wants to break away to create their own state .
                  You think the hospitals in the South East are bad , you should see any hospital outside SEQ.

                  • SlickMick on 27/05/2024 - 09:01

                    @beach bum: An Olympics would be a great excuse for an infrastructure upgrade - need to have a world class PT system in place - there's a goal worth working towards.

                    And make the Air Train free so everyone says what a great place to visit and keep those tourism dollars rolling in.

          • Mad Max on 26/05/2024 - 12:59
            +1

            @Meowcat: Experts have confirmed that tinfoil is very safe and effective against myocarditis and hearth attacks.

  • Ahan on 26/05/2024 - 08:46
    +6

    Can I suggest the title needs to be changed?

    It is not just Brisbane. It’s the entire translink network that covers SE QLD.

      • CookieJacker31 on 26/05/2024 - 08:55
        +2

        They won't be losing money. The government will still be paying Justin.

      • BOGOF on 26/05/2024 - 10:30
        +6

        Translink is a division of the Department of Transport and Main Roads - Queensland government owned.

      • mj7312 on 26/05/2024 - 10:39
        +1

        I must have missed something. Translink is publicly owned and under the Department of Transport and Main Roads. What's the Canada angle?

        • payless69 on 26/05/2024 - 11:32

          Endless legal entities to hide the real issue!

    • EFC94 on 26/05/2024 - 10:48
      +1

      Translink covers PT across all of QLD up to Cairns. I would assume this deal is for all of QLD not just SE QLD.

    • payless69 on 28/05/2024 - 14:41

      Nah, ALL city busses even the Kinetic in Cairns metro

  • Sye on 26/05/2024 - 08:53
    +11

    Think of the flow on effect. Less cars on the road. Less car accidents. Which will lead to less car accident posts on OzBargain. Less MS Paint diagrams. What will I do?

    • payless69 on 26/05/2024 - 09:01
      +1

      He might as well buy Greyhound.
      More country singers that can lay claim to be born on a Greyhound.

    • EspadaV8 on 26/05/2024 - 09:26
      +7

      I'm curious about any potential reductions in car accidents and pedestrian injuries. The money spent reducing the fare could possibly save far more than it costs in health care treating people from car accidents.

      • mj7312 on 26/05/2024 - 10:49
        +3

        Could help lower insurance rates too, or at least stop them increasing as much as they have lately.

    • MrThing on 26/05/2024 - 09:30
      +3

      I will be interested to see the stats. I bet heaps of people still drive.

      Whats public transport saving you VS is it worth sitting on a crowded train/bus for longer than driving

  • 11112007 on 26/05/2024 - 08:58
    +1

    I honestly want to take a train in brisbane now. But i would need to pay $350 to fly up for the privilege. Any flight deals? haha

    • pennypincher98 on 26/05/2024 - 09:12
      +6

      Why? One of the ticketing systems fundamental purposes is for ridership stats. Knowing what needs more or less services, what stations should be express/all stops, optimising bus routes, making new routes and identifying underserved areas, earmarking areas for future expansion with new lines etc.

      The easiest, cheapest and most reliable way to get this data is by getting the commuters to collect it for you and this is quite a non-invasive way of doing so.

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