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You can learn to defend yourself through classes, you can train your big, strong, pupper to keep you safe. Other than those two options, I couldn't really find anything that might help with some of the madness happening around Sydney lately.

Found this coupon code for these three items that I thought others might be interested in. It's just 20% off on these items only.

I have seen reviews of the whistle and understand it to be (quite literally) "painfully" loud.


Otacle Owhistle 2 Titanium Emergency Whistle $34.36 + $7.95 S&H (RRP: $42.95)

If you spend more than $75, you get free shipping.

From the website:

  • 2 Tools in 1: It functions as a whistle and a compass.
  • Constructed from lightweight, corrosion resistant TC4 titanium alloy in a sandblasted finish.
  • Dualtube design makes the whistle louder and lets it reach up to 100+ decibels at a 0.5-meter distance.
  • Built-in compass with 10-degree increments is ideal for navigation and orientation.
  • You can change the color of the titanium surface to your liking by heating or oxidizing.
  • Included key ring easily attaches the whistle to a bag, belt, or keychain.
  • Key ring is also made of TC4 Titanium material so it will not interfere with the magnetic field around the compass.

Javelot Mini $115.96 (RRP: $144.95)

Taken from the website:

  • Powerful for Its Size: Compact and lightweight while delivering a max output of 1000 lumens and a max throw of 600 meters
  • Uniform Hot Spot: Olight's first EDC flashlight with a round light source, provides a softer and more balanced beam.
  • Simple User Interface: Dual-stage tactical tail switch to access high/low output momentarily or constantly. Quick stow and take out with a clip holster
  • Two-in-one Tail Cap: Magnetic charging compatible with MCC1A/MCC3 and thumb operation.

Warrior Nano $92.76 (RRP: $115.95)

Taken from the website:

  • Put 1,200 lumens in the Palm of Your Hands: Delivers an impressive output of 1,200 lumens and a throw of 135 meters, all packed into a compact 3.19-inch-long form.
  • Versatile and Intuitive: In addition to the versatile side switch for daily use, the tail switch allows immediate high output for instant activation during urgent situations.
  • Unlock Endless Lighting Possibilities: Features six brightness levels (Turbo, Half-Turbo, High, Medium, Low, and Moonlight) and two tactical modes (Strobe and Momentary-on).
  • Lasts 40 Days Before Recharge: With its 1100mAh battery, it delivers a stunning runtime of 40 days in Moonlight mode.
  • Designed with User Safety in Mind: Includes a lockout feature and Half-Turbo mode to make the light pocket-safe.
  • Fits Comfortably in Your Pocket: The two-way stainless steel pocket clip allows for deep bezel down or bezel up pocket carry.

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  • The ol' DNA-collector bezel

    • +2

      I wanted to say something about this but don't want to imply anything untoward.

      My mate is a martial arts expert and suggested that if someone were to, hypothetically, use it to defend themselves, it could potentially, hypothetically, cause much damage to a throat .

  • +1

    OP
    You got descriptions interchanged for the torches.
    May be a pasting error.

    • +1

      Yikes. Thanks! I'll fix that in a tic.

  • +27

    "I couldn't really find anything that might help with some of the madness happening around Sydney lately."

    Don't buy into the scaremongering, violent crime has been dropping on a per capita basis for decades. It's now safer than it was when you were a kid, not the other way around.

      • +19

        Their homicide rate is 8 times ours!

        The illusion-of-safety and safety are two very different things.

      • +12

        I live inner in Melbourne near the housing commission and find your attitude a much bigger problem.

        • +1

          So you live in a sketchy area and expect everywhere to be like that?

          I get it. I grew up in Cairns. Couldn't walk down the street when I was a kid without someone shoulder barging you for no reason or straight up challenging you to a fight. Took me years after I moved to Brisbane to realise how weird that was, and how in most other areas it doesn't happen.

          • +8

            @Sxio: The point I was making is I live in a sketchy area and still think the idea of carrying a weapon is problematic. The comment I was replying to has so many negs it can’t be seen without clicking on it.

            • @try2bhelpful: Oh cool. Definitely not how i read it. These are pretty low down on the definition of weapons though.

              • @Sxio: Anyone who thinks they need weapons to defend themselves needs to look at Jim Jeffries piece on the gun issues in America. It is brilliantly funny and so on point.

                I don’t think a whistle is a weapon, however, if it doesn’t attract some help it might just trigger the attacker.

                • +1

                  @try2bhelpful: It's a lot better than nothing. WIll definitely attract attention, which is exactly what an attacker DOESN'T want, they want you to comply and try not to raise attention, which the whistle makes impossible.

                  If we're concerned about not triggering attackers… where does that lead? They're already attacking you, it's already a very, very bad situation.

                  • @Sxio: It might attract some attention but people may not act on it. In the same way most people just ignore a car alarm that goes off. If someone is robbing you they may not, actually, be attacking you. If you make a fuss they might actually attack you. It can get much worse.

                    I’ve stood on the side of the road yelling at some guys attacking another guy that I’m calling the cops. However, I would not be wading into the action. I’m pretty sure if I was blowing a whistle it would just annoy people. They wouldn’t associate it with come help. Ignore the whistle and ring the cops.

                    I’m very grateful that the average person out there doesn’t have a gun, including me.

          • @Sxio: I grew up in Darwin and was only checked over by thuggish kids once

      • +1

        Jason Bourne taught us that anything can be a weapon.

        That's why I carry a pen and a hardcover notebook around with me.

        Your house keys and car key can also be a weapon - just hold them in your fist with the keys jutting out between your fingers.

        Also look up 'monkey fist' - a ball of rope that you can attach to your keychain.

        • @brotherfranciz
          Someone is paying attention. Astute observation.

    • +3

      https://amp.abc.net.au/article/103811636

      But although knife crime has dominated NSW headlines, the most recent data from the state's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research (BOCSAR) shows it's at a 20-year low. There were 1,497 assaults and robberies involving a knife in 2023, compared to more than 4,200 in 2004.

      "There's shocking events, and they always receive a lot of publicity and a lot attention and that's absolutely warranted," BOCSAR chief executive Jackie Fitzgerald said.

      "But it can create a misconception that these offences are increasing or rising in prevalence, and that's where we really need recourse to the data.

      "We're actually less at risk of being offended against with a knife than we have been at any time in over the past two decades."

      It may be worth observing that:-

      One group is over-represented in knife crime data: young people.

      Adjusting for population, people aged 10 to 17 are about six times more likely to be charged with a robbery involving a knife, and twice as likely to be charged with non-domestic assault.

      • Thank you for adding this!
        So knife related crimes are down to less than a third of what they were (adjusted for population).

  • -2

    $100 for 1000 lumens lmao

    • +14

      Statistics say otherwise!
      Total annual reported rapes have stayed pretty much flat since 1990.
      Back then the population was 3.6m, today it's 5.3m, meaning that the reported rape rate has dropped by around a third.

    • +5

      Sadly, rape whistles are a must for anyone living in Sydney. It's only going to get worse

      Why, did you recently move there?

  • +13

    A bushwalking whistle??? And I say that as an experienced hiker that carries a similar one on every trip I make.

    Having lived in rough parts of SYD for years - and having rescused several folks who were being mugged - the best thing to avoid problems is strategic awareness & common sense. And yes with the latter, as they say alas these days it's anything BUT common. ;-)

    Strategic awareness just means, be aware of your surroundings, conditions etc - if you have your head in your phone and are walking at night with earbuds in, that'll be hard to do. Pay attention to the guy on the train carraige thats acting erratic, know if you're being looked over by a group of teens etc. Know which routes to walk home in winter months when it gets dark earlier.

    And know IF something happens how you will handle in advance - knowing your personality type, are you a fighter or a complier etc. You will likely never need to use but figuring out on the spot and under duress is very hard.

    For males or females - I would recommend a quality personal alarm, they're deafeningly loud, very easy to activate (keep where you can access) - and cheap. Most folks will run when they're activated as they draw attention, certainly better than trying to blow a whistle.
    Example: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/325268013134?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mk…

      • +1

        Hmmmmm….ok

        Can one of the neggers please assist me by enlightening me what I said/advised that was in their learned opinion, incorrect? I'd be open to be corrected by you so if you could detail your response that'd be appreciated - thank you.

        • -2

          How to be strategically aware when your house gets broken into by a 17 year old on bail and stabs you to death? Maybe that idk

          • +3

            @belongsinforums: That is a very, very small probability of attack. Perhaps people should take a phone to bed and ring the cops, immediately, rather than challenging them.

            • @try2bhelpful: in hindsight, yes. from experience, when someone tries to break in, brain go dumb dumb

              • @belongsinforums: Respectfully, one's brain going 'dumb dumb' in stressful situations where duress is applied is an individual thing, some react different to this - like I know things actually slow down for me. Not always a good thing as i have nearly gotten in trouble before when I perhaps would have been better having the herd mentality and fleeing.

                Each to their own - but as mentioned KNOWING which type of person you are in advance means you can plan around this ie if you prefer to flee you can have a 'saferoom' in your home, which can be as simple as a room with an internally lockable door that you could further barricade from inside. Someone who knows they prefer to actively stop the incursion could utilise a fire extinguisher etc - but it's risk vs reward so impossible to cover what is the right choice in this limited format.

          • +3

            @belongsinforums: You seem to have chosen a rather extreme example to make your point, no?

            Statistically how often does your example occur? I ask this as you gave it as a rebuttal for my rather general advice, which was not given for home invasions - but I will gladly bend and say sure it could apply there as well.

            Well I would advocate for people to apply strategic awareness to their home i.e vulnerable points, fallback position, as stated if they KNOW in advance if they're someone who will try and confront the intruder or go to a bedroom & call the police etc.

            Strategic awareness is a general concept that can be applied in many areas - so respectfully I feel you example, which is extreme and statistically near impossible to happen to readers, can even have this applied very easily to it. I appreciate your reply but feel you've been a tad harsh and judgemental in your reaction that my advice, was baseless - but I respect your right to that.

            Can I ask what you suggest instead? As I always find its handy to ask folks who complain, for their alternative solution….so you would suggest?

            • -4

              @Daniel Plainview: i complained?

              • +1

                @belongsinforums:

                How to be strategically aware when your house gets broken into by a 17 year old on bail and stabs you to death? Maybe that idk

                Complain or perhaps disagree would have been better wording. But I think your quoted post above implies you feel what I stated was not helpful, which is fine - but as I said - if you could provide something instead I'm all ears - though I'd hope I did, even with your very unlikely & extreme example tried to address how what I said would apply even to it.

                And if 'your' brain goes dumb dumb - when such things occur, I did address that in my OP - saying strategic awareness is knowing your own limitations & abilities in such incidents. Thats a critical part of things.

        • +3

          I was wondering about the negging. What you wrote seemed to make sense to me.

          Unlike a 'titanium' $100 whistle with a flashlight- the products in this deal seem overpriced and frankly pretty stupid. This is just a fancy version of the toys that kids uses to find in their cereal boxes 30 years ago with some self defense slant to it.

          Some training, or environmental awareness is going to go a lot further than a small trinket.

        • +1

          Just being a smartass ie "tldr"
          Sorry

  • +1

    After you fumble to locate it and manage to get is working the would be attacker smacks it out of your mouth and the public walk by like nothing is happening all while your ears are ringing from the hearing loss and the trauma has set in you can navigate your way home using the compass, just remember to look up when crossing the road but whatever you know just don't blow the whistle.

  • +1

    **You can change the color of the titanium surface to your liking by heating or oxidizing.

    They're recommending that you apply a blowtorch to a compass/flashlight? Oh, I get it. They are just trying to go after the high end EDC market here.

    **Built-in compass with 10-degree increments is ideal for navigation and orientation.

    A compass this small is next to useless, this thing reminds me of the little compass trinkets that we used to get as kids. They were often totally inaccurate as well.

    • +1

      Free with a pair of Bata Scouts.

  • +5

    Text is about self-defence, deal is about a bushwalker's rescue whistle/compass and two torches. Think I'm just gonna not vote.

  • +4

    FWIW sincere kudos to the OP, @the-rabs for trying to make people aware of some basic stuff that might assist them in the very unlikely event they are placed in a bad situation. I don't think these are good tools for such a matter, but that aside his heart is in the right place and perhaps this will spur people to look at most suitable and also cost effective options(as i do not think these are great products or pricing).

    With some things in life you never think it will be you…..until it is. And then you find yourself wishing with all you have that you'd done anything to try and mitigate it having occurred but it is too late.

    • +2

      tip my hat to you.

      It's quite… frustrating… isn't it… I want to be able to both keep, and suggest, better options.. I just know that those options are not legal.. And that's always been the dilemma, I find, that criminals are just gonna 'criminal'. And I just can't break the law because I have too much at stake.

      I am mindful that, statistically, things are not getting worse, but better.. Nevertheless, I want more.

      • Just remember, if you use a device (whistle etc) that causes damage to a persons hearing, you can be charged.

        • +3

          @the-fuzz
          In theory yes, but is a tad simplistic for the purposes of this thread - but if you blew for no good reason in a strangers ear, yes their would be repercussions both legal, civil and otherwise i.e that person might react in a significant manner.

      • +5

        @the-rabs
        Alas 20+yrs ago I had the unpleasant experience of finding out how NSW's current self defence laws applied, I was attacked by 4 people - but fought them off - they claimed completely falsely I attacked them, I ended up on assault charges - which resulted in a no criminal record result but it was expensive, costly and very unpleasant.

        Most folks see American stuff and think the laws here work similar- which thankfully they don't - but there's significant downside. If folks go carrying boxcutters etc for self defence, it is a very, very bad idea. Firstly, statistically very often this will escalate the crime to a more serious incident e.g the thug only intended to take your wallet but now feels he has to use your weapon on you to impart a 'lesson'.

        Secondly, it will often not help - particularly if you are not prepared to use it - or do not have the skills to do so. So it's a net negative.

        And finally, legally you cannot do such things - and even if you use to defend yourself you may well find yourself on charges for doing so - yes i know in theory this sucks, but it's a very slippery slope and alas the law on self defence does not allow such things.

        But as a general rule you can use reasonable force to defend yourself in such situations & what you have onhand and is normal to have is permittable to be used i.e a sharp pencil in your handbag is not unusual, a fishing knife is! A can of high strength insect repellent is not abnormal in a backpack, a bike chain is! etc

        But as with everything in life you're better off taking reasonable steps to avoid trouble - than perfecting a plan for when trouble arrives. Hence I say just be aware of whats around you and show common sense. Know how others view you, might be a wakeup call but do you look like an easy mark ?

        As a general rule the average crim, is a crim because they're dim & lazy - so noise, light & making them work for their goal will generally be enough to have them go elsewhere - and as harsh as that sounds thatis always your goal i.e they burgle the house down from you, they try the guy in the next carriage instead.

        • +2

          Thank you for this great advice.. This makes total sense and I'll keep it in mind.

      • +2

        Unfortunately it's a very bad idea from an evidence point of view.
        I know this is written for states, but it holds true for people as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_dilemma

        In short, the desire for absolute security breeds insecurity.

        • +3

          Yes & no - different members of society tend to perceive such things very differently. Case in point, I was speaking with a guy in our hiking group who also coaches a jogging squad. He said he asked the guys in the group what they thought about when they were out doing early morning training runs - they often said what their time was, the day ahead, if anyone was faster etc.

          When he asked the females - he was shocked by the results as a repeated comment was how much they worried about is that guy ahead on the path looking at me, whats around that corner, is it safe to go that way etc.

          Same for the elderly, disabled folks etc.

          Yes, is a fine line between creating an issue that weighs on you - and also addressing realities in a pragmatic & logical way. Your point is valid but I'd caution throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

          • +3

            @Daniel Plainview: While we seemingly disagree on some things (more your other posts, not this one), I think we agree on much more than we disagree on.

            I've got the good fortune of being a large white male, so my lived experience definitely isn't the same as other people's, I completely understand that.
            I also do agree that being street smart is a very good idea.

            The risk of something happening to you is low, much lower than most people think it is, but it isn't zero. I'm very happy with people taking pragmatic steps, what I'm just cautioning against is to do anything out of fear. Most people that want to carry a gun (I know fairly extreme example, but let's go with it) do so out of fear rather than for rational reasons.
            If they looked at it rationally, they'd see that you're many times (it's been a while since I read this statistic, so I don't remember the quantum) more likely to be shot if you carry a gun than if you don't. So your perceived security is actually making you less secure, not more.

            Your recommendations of walking where it's safe or even having an alarm are sound (though in my subjective experience unnecessary for most parts of Sydney), I just think that any suggestions like punching someone in the throat with a flashlight (as done by the OP in this thread) are just ridiculously stupid.

            • +2

              @RubenM: Haha I'm sorry we don't agree more, but all being on the same page is often counterproductive.

              Statistics can be rather deceiving and simplistic and I'd not be surprised if that was the case with that stat, which I too have heard - i.e because they're carrying a gun (as is your example) the person goes places where they know they should not, thus placing themselves in much higher risk of being killed and also resisted in a conforntation which made this even higher.

              But as you say yourself - carrying a gun, is an extreme example, particularly as for all intents and purposes that is not applicable to the discussion we are having.

              As with many things in life, chocolate, alcohol, running around with fast women - it's about knowing when enough is enough. Same for security considerations. You don't want to end up the crazy guy who lives around the corner where terror is stopping you from living as you shelter inside your barbed wire bunker - but also don't be the guy who says, "Oh it'll be fine." assuming what will be will be.

              To be fair to the OP, I think context is needed when assessing such comments - I do not think they were advocating such actions in a vacuum, so when taken as they meant them - it's not in any way unreasonable to suggest, which is all they did - they didn't say one had to or should. Flashlights being used as pseudo weapons is very common - why do you think for decades nightwatchmen only had these massive things that weighed a ton and were as long as a jamaican porn star's &^%. The authorities have never had an issue with that as it's just a flashlight.

              I do think folks should look at the intent behind the OP's post & subsequent follow ups, I cannot fault him for any of it & think its nothing but well intentioned - what people do with a torch & his advice is ultimately up to them. Appreciate the reply & excellent thoughts.

            • @RubenM:

              I just think that any suggestions like punching someone in the throat with a flashlight (as done by the OP in this thread) are just ridiculously stupid.

              This made me chuckle.

      • The options you refuse to specify would be illegal for good reason. How often are you interacting with "criminals"?

        I haven't bothered checking that stats but I'd still be very confident that taking the law into your own hands or taking on said "criminals" would almost invariably lead to significantly worse outcomes, with very few exceptions. We've all no doubt seen the result of situations in the good ol US of A where people have been killed while mistakenly trying to enter a house they thought was theirs, or being shot on suspicion.

        • +1

          @Igaf
          Not sure who is refusing to specify these options you allude to? There is a very old and well known expression in legal circles, 'The law is an ass' - which is only to say though generally it's good, it's also quite often horrendously not fit for purpose. So in most circumstances sure follow it to the letter - but in others you might want to apply some common sense or trying to be a 'good citizen' might cause you more harm than good.

          Again not sure who you are asking how often is interacting with crims. Personally I avoid it but each to their own I suppose.

          You make very definitive statements about "…almost invariably lead to significantly worse outcomes…" - respectfully I think its folly to say such things as variables are critical - circumstances and the individuals in them make all the difference. To imply a one size fits all approach will work is tough to sell (IMHO).

          Thats why I do not say you should defend yourself or not defend yourself - rather know yourself best and then be aware of your options and your surroundings - ideally having a rough idea for what you will do in the unlikely event something happens rather than adlibbing.

          Again equating anything in the realm of self defence for an Oz audience with happenings in the US is apples with oranges - the inmates are running the asylum there & alas for them will be moving forward.

          • @Daniel Plainview: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/15286961/redir

            The law in regards to self-defence is very reasonable. If you overstep the mark then you'll rightly be held accountable. Pro-actively engaging a "criminal" or some random thug/drunk harassing you is likely to end in tears. As police and others with broad experience repeatedly say for obvious reasons - in the vast majority of cases the best answer is to walk away, or comply if your safety is threatened.

            • +1

              @Igaf: Ah, sorry the OzB system sometimes muddies the waters as to who folks are replying to. My bad.

              We're essentially on the same page - as detailed in the thread I personally have experience with what folks would think is legit self-defence vs how courts interpret - though to be fair that was more the attackers, who I dealt with in what I thought was my defence - simply lying and the court system taking 4 words over 1. Thats different I suppose.

              Yes, but to be fair Police and those with broad experience are giving advice thats very broad to all of society - thus they tend to default to the 'safest' and best fit for all, which I would agree that is. This however does not mean its the best fit for every person, nor for every situation.

              I've linked cheap, accessable personal alarms in this thread - not DIY plans for homemade maces, so I think one can take simple, preventative measures which still comply with the 'best for all' Police etc advice. But folks will do what works best for them, for better or worse.

  • Do any of these require propriety batteries?

    • +1

      Yeah, I think both the lights use proprietary batteries.. I think..

      The mini uses ORB-185C20 and the nano uses ORB-183C11

  • -1

    $35 for a whistle lol

    The really funny part is the o-fan cult will fall over themselves to buy this.

  • +1

    FWIW this thread prompted me to grab a personnal alarm for my mother & MIL - I felt that this design was best (USB chargable, charge lasts for up to a year, 130db, easily activated by pulling out plug - which I prefer to the push button twice ones).
    https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005004527711397.html?spm=a2g…

    You can find this exact model from sellers for $USD3.99 each in the 'Buy 3 get free postage section' - just put a few in your watchlist and go back later.

  • Going back to the italian alps in a coulle weeks, wondering if the whistle would be good in case of the (common these days) bear/wolf encounter 🤔

    • +1

      …. you've been to the Alps before and bears and wolves were an actual problem?

      Been there loads of times, and of all the things to worry about, these never even made it to the list.

      If you want a whistle, get a proper high volume plastic whistle, not this stupidly overpriced titanium BS. And a proper compass.

      • Lived there all my life apart the last decade in oz, where I am from they are a problem (especially wolves). Was even thinking to keep a flare with me in case, might get a loud whistle as well tho

        • +1

          Then you'd be in a better position to answer than 98% of people on OzB, otherwise it's like asking Yanks how to best protect themselves from dropbears.

    • +1

      LiquidNitro actually tested the whistle on youtube. Underwhelming imo.

      Wolves are very rarely any threat to humans afaik.

      • Still not keen on facing a pack of them tho lol. Bear injuried few close to town and killed a 26yo that was jogging.. I rather be ready hey

        • +2

          I'd hazard a guess the Owhistle will be most effective if said bear asks you for directions.

          • +1

            @Igaf: Im good with hand gesture too, thanks to genetics, whistle+gestures = perfect bear traffic management 🤣

            • +2

              @Deliotron: Italian heritage? Engaging the bear with rapid fire lingo, shrugs and gestures mixed with some big smiles and false bravado laughter will probably totally confuse it. Better you than me tho.

              • @Igaf: I was thinking to strap my mother in law on my back, bit heavy but as soon as the bear attack the technique be to run away from him while cutting the ropes

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