More options for those looking into plug in hybrids on sale. Pay a premium for hybrid and therefore a premium on maintenance costs as well but have the flexibility of driving it like an EV for daily commutes and remove range anxiety by running it like an ICE for your road trips.
Was $82,915 plus ORC but now $69,990 DA
Looks like the BYD Sealion 6 is really having an impact!
More details on the deal:
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/peugeot-3008-deals-sha…
lol. great wall ev cars are like the rollls royce in ice cars
The monthly sales of the Wey Mocha DHT-PHEV in China in the first four months of this year were 140, 102, 157, and 229 units; while only 4,745 units were sold in 2023.
Very poor sales for a population of 1.5B
Amazing numbers …
"Pay a premium for hybrid and therefore a premium on maintenance costs as well"… That's weird. When I bought my first hybrid 14 years ago, part of Toyota's selling point was that the maintenance costs would be lower…. Not higher than a regular petrol engine? And that certainly proved to be true, for me.
But it costs you to pay for normal ICE servicing plus the electrical stuff?
Regarding your comment on servicing the "electrical stuff"….. What exactly do think they're going to service??! The electric motor? Batteries? Lol.
They don't service those parts.
My maintenance on my RAV4 Hybrid has been lower than the maintenance on the CX-5 it replaced. The running costs overall are significantly cheaper.
By and large, a hybrid or PHEV is going to be cheaper to maintain as the ICE engine undergoes a lower duty cycle during operation. Its going to be on for shorter periods of time and it wont experience the wide fluctuations in both load, temperature and RPM. The heavily controlled operating environment means much lower levels of engine wear that normal ICE vehicles will experience. Meanwhile the electric drivetrain basically needs zero maintenance.
There is one valid argument that by carrying both an ICE and a battery electric system in one, you do take a hit to overall weight efficiency. But real world numbers don't lie, hybrids and PHEVs both get much better fuel efficiency than the pure ICE versions of the same vehicles. Electric motors are just so efficient at deploying and harvesting energy that they more than make up for the extra weight of the ICE onboard. While the ICE engine gives you that flexibility of still using fuel if you ever need it.
Front end looks so much like a Haval Jolion…
That because Haval copied the sabretooth design from Peugeot (first debuted in the 508 back in 2018, and then in the 3008 in 2020).
all these discounted cars.
Im still waiting for AMG c63 goes on sale.
I’ll go halves with you
Not going to happen as long as all my cousins in Greenacre and Bankstown keep buying the latest model every year 😂😂
And yet still overpriced, these are the discounts they begrudgingly give. They got used to covid gouging.
Stellantis have ruined every brand they amalgamated.
It's fair to say that these were horribly overpriced to begin with, so I see this as more of a 'correction' than a discount!
The BYD Sealion has better warranty, range, is bigger, has arguably better looks, just as fast and is 13k cheaper. Why would anyone buy this?
Not only that Peugeot doesn't have DC Charging capability. Outlander PHEV and Sealion 6 has DC Charging, though Chademo is harder to find than CCS2 (duh!).
can you start your titles with the price then the savings?
Op may want to mention that PHEVs also qualify for FBT exemption with novated lease (in the same way as full EVs)
I'm very Interested in novated lease through my workplace, and stacking rebates and discounts for a full EV, but i've found it pretty difficult to absorb all the info and calculate if it works for me (based on income, tax, available rebates, etc).
Any idea if there are resources that bring this all together, like a NL calculator or something? Cheers!
Plan Lease has an excellent detailed calculation after you choose the car and any option, showing the various charges (interest, tires, maintenance, stamp duty, registration, insurance etc). You would have to log in via your own company account though. SG Fleet has a more rudimentary one. Plan Lease worked out that around this price on a PHEV or EV for a 5 years lease, one'd be saving $6k-9k/year depending on your tax bracket compare to leasing an ICE car of similar value.
The only figure you need to care about, is what the lease will actually cost you from your pay.
ie, if you get paid $3000 every 2 weeks into your bank account, and your lease takes $400 of that, leaving you with $2600 going into your bank account every 2 weeks - then the lease is costing you $400 every 2 weeks - so $10,400 annually.
The lease companies love to quote you all sorts of "pre tax cost" and "tax savings" and loads of other useless numbers that you can just ignore.
Verrrrry roughly, if you novated lease a $50,000 EV over 5 years, then you pay something like $370 every 2 weeks for the car. That figure includes insurance, rego, tyres, servicing (if any). Roughly $48K over the 5 year period, and then a $12K residual payment to keep the car at the end of the 5 years.
Total cost of $48K + $12K = $60K all inclusive.
…Noting also the monthly lease figure is pre-tax.
@Buy2Much: No, I'm specifically not using the pre-tax figure.
You only need to care about the number of dollars that are no longer reaching your bank account ! This is the real cost to you.
In my example above, where you pay $370 fortnightly for the lease, the lease company is pocketing more like $550 every fortnight. But the cost to you is $370 - this is the number you need to care about.
I have an outlander PHEV on an NV. Love it. After the FBT exemption it makes it seriously worth considering
Just another $20k to go before it's worth considering… And even then, good luck with warranty and spare parts.
I'd wait for the hydrogen car from Toyota with 30 sec fast charge.
Maybe $25k will help them move these cars out of the door.
Battery is too small.
If Great Wall can do it… Surely another brand can..
https://carnewschina.com/2024/05/14/great-wall-motors-wey-mo…