Anyone know if you can de restrict the 99 bikes electric bikes that are all set to 25kmh . Specifically the pedal brand mid drive ones? Haha . I've tried Google and got nowhere
How to Turn off Speed Restrictions on 99 Bikes E Bike?
OzBozo on 24/04/2024 - 23:41
Last edited 24/04/2024 - 23:41
Last edited 24/04/2024 - 23:41
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Username fits. So does "muppet."
Ripbozo
On NCM bikes you need to purchase and install a new unrestricted off-road use only control module. Might possibly be a similar thing for yours.
Yes I did as I exclusively use my bike on off-road trails like Ku-Ring-Gai and Stromlo Forest Park. Works very well and includes a throttle trigger button which is pretty handy on steep gravel inclines..
I wonder whether there is sufficient jv posts to fine-tune a LLM AI model to respond to posts like him š¤
do their jerks ride on footpaths tho?
There's an easy way to get 9.81 m/sĀ² out of those bikes.
I see what you did there Mr Newton….
E=mc2
OK Einstein…
@Chandler: Did you know that Fibonacci took 10 years to die !!!
"died between 1240 and 1250 in Pisa."
Whoa, this is heavy.
If my calculations are correct, when this bozo hits 39.33952 metres per second, you're gonna see some serious shit.It's all good until the rapid deceleration back to 0 m/s.
We don't have enough meat crayons in the world
If only this model came with flux capacitor
Just buy a moped, you can go 50 on a 50cc with just a car license.
Rego …….
Also primative ICE, i use to get like 4litres per hundred out of my moped . Thats barely better than a hybrid
Then get an electric one. Mine does 80km/h max and does about 60km on a single charge…
Downside, I can't ride it on the footpath and through public parks like a (fropanity).
Rego ā¦ā¦.
So… What you really want is a motorcycle, but not have to pay rego for it.
Downside, I can't ride it on the footpath and through public parks like a (fropanity).
Hold my beer…
Depends on the moped. Suzuki UZ50 well maintained gets 1.8 l / 100km in pretty much all situations.
Real world numbers (I measured), 125cc motorbike (Honda CBF125) can manage 2-2.5l including motorway.I was actually getting 1.9L but then I cleaned out the fuel line - turns out it was running extremely lean (and engine was overheating) and wasn't getting to its top speed (was hitting like 95kph on motorways, afterwards it could do ~120 not that I tried it but comfortably accelerated to about 112 and could do more).
so no the "4L" is not correct at all….
depends on state
Everyone here lives in the same state as me, I always assume..
Can't carry kids on a moped :/
This is a big one that non parents would not think of
Do you care about servicing and/or warranty? Both would be affected by what you are proposing to do.
Doubt it honestly. Maybe warranty but defo not servicing. I donāt think 99bikes would refuse to service an eBike that has an aftermarket part on it
It is 100% stated in their servicing terms and conditions they will refuse to service a bike that has been modified in this way.
On at least one model 99 bikes sold it's just in software and possible to change by putting it into a service mode, no hardware modification needed
Anyone know if you can de restrict the 99 bikes electric bikes that are all set to 25kmh
Bozo by name, Bozo by nature.
Why?
Sounded like a fair question to me?
Because it's illegal.
So what isn't?
He wasn't talking about a hire bike was he?
So is speeding but I bet you wouldn't want a car that was limited to 110kph
Cars are limited to 50 km/hr in residential streets. EBikes should be capped at that speed.
Those Ebikes are called motorbikes and they require registration.
@ankti231: I have to register a car that costs $500. You have to register vehicles for road use that are not bicycles. Bicycles are limited to a max power and 25km/h assistance. Ifnyou want more than that, its a motorbike.
Only if you drive it on gov roads. Off road or on your own property, it's not illegal.
Why?
Sounded like a fair question to me?
The maximum speed limit for e-bikes in Australia is 25 km/h when using the electric motor. This applies to both pedal-assist and throttle-controlled e-bikes.
You can pedal at any speed.
Fair enough, not sure why that makes the OP a bozo though. :)
Pro cyclists can average over 50km/h in races
I've raced on Dunc gray at over 50km/h average speed.
Top sprinters can go over 70
So pedal harder can certainly take an ebike over 25
Couldn't be too smart if you're riding an illegal, unregistered, uninsurable motorbike on public roads and footpaths with no license to top it off.
Oh my bad, I thought it was a powered push bike.
@EightImmortals: As soon as you modify it, it is an unregistered motor vehicle. Then just riding it risks your car license.
@EightImmortals: Youre still free to choose to have a safe form of tranport. Either an Ebike that can use share paths and cycleways at 25kmh or a registered motor bike with brake lights and blinkers and any legal speed on roads.
@EightImmortals: There's no such thing - the funny thing is that Americans actually believe it does!
@whatgift: And based on the current US system it seems their obly freedom is fhe ability to buy lots of guns and take aby vehicle on the roads. There isnt a lot of othr freedom. Not allowed to read books, not allowed to co torl your own body, have to sell a kidney to get a broken bone set, .need a lawyer on speed dial….
Honestly this seems like a perfectly reasonable request. Being limited to 25kmh would be terrible for any bike, I canāt believe thatās our limit. Something like the US 32 sounds much more appropriate seeing as most āregularā bikes can get up to 35ish on just a bit of human power as well š
Derestricting doesn't mean restricting it to 32kph…
Being restricted to 25kph also doesn't mean you are stuck riding at that speed - just pedal a bit harder with your own legs. That's the whole point of the restriction.
That's good in theory, but try keeping up with a group social ride on an eMTB! 32km/h assist would make that possible. It's hardly the same as those idiots doing 50km/h plus on the bike paths.
I can't think of any terrain worth doing on a mountain bike that would require anything past 25. That sort of speed is pretty much for paved roads anyway, not singletrack.
@rumblytangara: I didn't think I needed to comment, but just because 25km is okay for your skill level does not mean it is adequate for all. Granted the OP clearly doesn't need the increased speed nor do most amateur riders, however there are absolutely riders that would benefit from more than 25km for single track. Please don't assume your needs are the same as everyone else.
@zehro: Any riders who are skilled enough to benefit from more than 25kph on singletrack are fit enough not to need it. And clued in enough not to have to ask on a forum as randomly irrelevant to riding as OzBargain.
On mountain bikes, pedal assist is essentially for helping go uphill. It's not so that you can ride motocross.
try keeping up with a group social ride on an eMTB! 32km/h assist would make that possible.
Do you ride?
I use my e-bike mainly to help on the hills. Flats and downhill are all on me and keeping up my cadence. I have my assist on setting 2 or 3 of 5 assist levels.
If you can't get your e-bike to 32kph then you wouldn't get a normal bike to 32kph so you need to increase your fitness level or find a slower group.
@brad1-8tsi: I was trying to illustrate a point. Why are you so interested in my personal life? My road bike is much faster than the e-bike when unpowered. Is that really a surprise to you? The rest is irrelevant and none of your business.
seeing as most āregularā bikes can get up to 35ish
I think you'll find that without a road bike and a moderate fitness level, 35km/h is a big ask for the majority of people in Australia.
I say that as someone with a hybrid bike where the best consistent coasting speed I can manage on the flat tends to be around 25-30km/h. On a cruiser or MTB that would be even lower. And I do 50km+ rides for fun.Yeah youāre probably right, the weight of most hybrids / cruisers sold now combined with the average fitness level of the majority of Australia makes 25 sound more reasonable. Iām just more used to doing 30-35ish on flats as a āpro-levelā cyclist with a more road-oriented town bike
There is no speed limit on e-bikes except for the limit of your own leg muscles and gravity.
I've had my Giant talon e+ up to 60kph (the Ride Control computer says I've done 90kph but I don't remember riding off a cliff). Motor still cuts out at 27kph then it's all about the legs.
You can cover ground fairly quickly at 27kph.
Out of interest, if you are doing, say, 40km/h on an e-bike while pedaling, is the motor still giving you assistance or does it cut out completely?
Motor still cuts out at 27kph
@Euphemistic: That's ambiguous. Does it keep providing enough power to keep you going to at 27kph and you 'top it up', or does it stop entirely if the bike is moving at 27kph?
@caitsith01: The motor helps you until 27kph, then the motor exits the equation and your legs keep pedallinga as fast as you want. If the soeed drops below 27, the motor kicks in again.
Not sure exactly how they work, but in some the motor can only pull the chain and has a freewheel if the chain goes faster than the motor, just like when stop pedalling and coast. In others, like mid drive, they might just 'turn off' the motor and allow it to spin freely
is the motor still giving you assistance or does it cut out completely
The motor cuts out completely. It's all about pedalling and taking advantage of downslopes.
For me, the pedal assist advantage is when I'm climbing. It used to be I'd be in my lowest gear and grinding up the hill at walking pace. Now I can pretend that I'm fit and maintain some speed.
Doesn't want to get a moped/motorbike because of rego cost so wants to illegally modify an electric bike.
Yeah, sounds like the type of twat that zips down a walkway and onto a road between cars.
we should have laws where if you get injured doing dumb stuff like that you have to pay out the ass for medical assistance.
lol
What the hell are you talking aboutHave you tried using your own legs??? I have an ebike that does 25km/h under its own power, but can get it up to mid to late 30km/h range if I… You know.. pedal it myself.
With this one simple trick you can get your ebike to go over 25km/h.
Ebike manufacturers and governments hate this one simple trick…
A normal bike would be even faster as you're not lugging around all the extra weight.
Agreed. My normal mountain bike that I built myself out of as much carbon fiber parts as I could weighs about 4~5kg. (It was also ironically about $1k cheaper even though it's about 90% carbon fiber)
My ebike, with battery and all the other EV related gear on it is closer to 14~15kg. 80% of the battery and electric drive train power is used up just moving the extra weight around…
Damn…. my, admittedly rather old, e bike weighs 28kg. When I was fit I could still push it to 40 - 45km/h on flat ground with panniers loaded. If bikes are now ~10kg lighter 35km/h should be easy for anyone with moderate fitness.
Damnā¦. my, admittedly rather old, e bike weighs 28kg. When I was fit I could still push it to 40 - 45km/h on flat ground with panniers loaded. If bikes are now ~10kg lighter 35km/h should be easy for anyone with moderate fitness.
If you're pushing a pannier-loaded bike on flat ground up to 45kph, that's well into the realm of professional cyclist speeds.
@rumblytangara: Not to toot my own horn but I was extremely fit at the time and they hold that speed for hours, I only had to hold it for minutes until the next hill. They don't call the area I live in The Hills because it's flat.
Get a normal push bike. Then you can do whatever speed you want, only limited by your strength and fitness level.
And you can ignore red lights and switch between footpaths and roads willy Nilly. Just make sure you yell Cyclist! as you do it
You dont need to go faster than 25 with assist. You can pedal faster. 25 is set for a reason
What reason?
If, as you say, you can easily pedal faster than this a normal bike? Or are you just a parrot?
I dont lnow the actual technical reason, but insuspect it is because 25km/h is plenty fast enough on a shared path. Speed limits are generally set for safety due to potential incidsnts with other road users.
It probably allows stronger fitter riders to exceed 25 because they should have additional skill and control to be able to go faster when its appropriate rather than enabling unskilled kids or frail pensioners to barrell along at speeds to great for passing pedestrians on share paths.
I've heard this argument a bit, but I'm yet to see many pensioners and "low skilled" riders barreling along out of control at 25km/h and taking people out on their current ebikes.
No one, well no one reasonable, is asking to have 60km/h pedal assist e-bikes. I personally have a high end E-MTB and have "unlocked" it in a way, by changing the region to USA, it allows assist up to 32km/h. Which is perfect.
Most people who actually ride know that 25km/h is just an awkward speed for the assist to keep cutting in and out at, you can get to that speed fairly easily and it just makes it awkward, 32km/h seems to be more around the equilibrium between pedalling and wind resistance on my MTB, to go faster than 32km/h on flat ground, you really need to be making an effort to go fast.
I didn't downvote you btw.
I'm yet to see many pensioners and "low skilled" riders barreling along out of control at 25km/h
I see plenty doing exactly this along shared pathways along the coast here in Adelaide.
Often these riders are newbies, completely oblivious to other users, lacking the courtesy of using a bell to warn others, riding as if the path is empty.
I was riding on the road alongside a shared path last week, and had one of these clowns weaving in and out amongst other path users, trying to keep pace with me. The path had lots of young kids (school holidays) and in this area, vulnerable users with disabilities.
@Binchicken22: The riders are the problem, but they are enabled by the eBike. Without an eBike, they would be tootlin' along at a far more pedestrian speed.
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Good.