Honda Discontinuing Petrol Variant of HRV and Civic

swiggity123 on 18/04/2024 - 17:35
Last edited 19/04/2024 - 10:34 by 1 other user

Was looking at getting the petrol variant of the Honda HRV.

Called the dealer and he kept mentioning last remaining stock…I simply assumed he was referring to last years models. But no - apparently Honda has stopped shipping over the Petrol variants of the HRV and Civic.

Asked him why and he said it’s something to do with Auto companies reducing their average emissions - and easiest way for Honda to do that is stop selling the Petrol variants of their two smallest cars.

Interesting - don’t know if more companies will start doing this. I’m a bit questioning if it’s still worth getting the petrol variant. Would parts be harder to get? They barely sold any HRV Petrol variants.

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Comments

  • plmko on 18/04/2024 - 20:46
    +4

    Even though they are no longer on commission, they are still car salesman, liars right down to the bone.

    The HR-V will have a refresh mid-year. Current HR-V are on run out, they have loads of the standard stock they aren't allowed to discount to sell so they don't want you ordering more.

  • pegaxs on 18/04/2024 - 23:29

    Who cares. Honda sell like 4 cars a year in Australia. I give it about 2 more years, and unless Honda pull a rabbit out of a hat, they are dead in the water.

    Stale model line up. Very few options within models. Dated and tired looking models. Cookie cutter Econo-boxes. Fixed price model. Slow take up of electric vehicle offerings. Soulless cars. Buyer apathy Ttowards the brand. Seeming lost their direction… All this is leading up to the death of Honda in Australia.

    Honda need to pull their shit together and get on with what they did best, make exciting cars that were a bit out there, that were packed with horsepower and cutting edge tech. When you thought of Honda, you thought power, fun, excitement, sporty, quality… now all you think is… meh, fixed priced shitters…

    • pizzip on 18/04/2024 - 23:47
      +2

      I see absolutely loads of the new HRV or CRV or whatever it is (small SUV that looks like squished up pug), honestly surprised how of them I see in my area.

    • Hackney on 19/04/2024 - 06:18

      Honda ain’t going anywhere, people have been writing them off since this agency style model came into existence.Yet they are still here.

      • Gareth on 19/04/2024 - 13:41
        +2

        It seemed clear from Honda JP that the agency model was Honda Australia's last hope of long-term survival. So, let's look at the last 5 years of sales:

        2019: 43,868
        2020: 29,040
        2021: 17,562
        2022: 14,215
        2023: 13,734

        To put that into perspective, in 2023 they were the 20th biggest-selling brand in Australia - outsold by Audi, Suzuki and Lexus!

        They've now introduced some new models and cut their prices, resulting in sales for 2024 up almost 20%… at this rate, they might approach 2021 sales levels🤔. Hopefully, they can increase sales and survive long-term.

        • jolygood on 20/04/2024 - 11:44
          +1

          I hope so too. It's very hard to compete in price with MG GWM Cherry. Compare to Honda, they also have more features, more blingy looks (leds, audi look alike, etc). Only few people appreciate good engineering and driving dynamic that Honda is known for.
          Oz market is very small as well. Honda needs to prioritise their limited resources. They still have a good market share in asia (where it is considered a mid class status car) and US, altough the number is declining as well.

          I hope they will bring back jazz in poverty spec as well…. not only the top spec. That will bring their number up.

        • Hackney on 21/04/2024 - 06:42

          @Gareth, as I alluded to,they are not going anywhere, they have always said from the outset, it is profit they are after, not volume.Nearly ALL other manufacturers have caught up in or exceeded their pricing of their vehicles.Agency style model? Any good? It has its positives and negatives.

    • Hackney on 19/04/2024 - 08:02

      @Pegasx I will hold you to that in regard to Honda quitting the Australian market.

      • pegaxs on 21/04/2024 - 23:18
        -1

        Sure, hold me to it… I certainly called the collapse of Holden on this forum before…

        Honda won’t “quit” so much as they will just be relegated to obscurity if they keep on their current trajectory. They are going to be eaten up by Chinese EV’s and the like, and once all the boomers start dying off, there isn’t going to be many people left to buy their fixed price bland white goods.

        As I said, Honda need to go back and find their roots. Get the younger generations excited about owning a Honda again. They need to innovate and reinvigorate their cars. Start making cars like Prelude again, Integra, S2000, Civic Type R, that kinda shit, not the same bread boxes on wheels that everyone else is making. Become a niche sports car brand with soul. That way, they can stay “low volume” and make more profit.

        • Hackney on 22/04/2024 - 05:36

          Holden was a given, & really no surprise, it had been on the cards for a number of years, once Ford exited, it was just a formality, you could see it coming.Even I could see that as far back as the early 2000s.Honda is a very different kettle of fish.For one it is a sole importer, so they will always have a footprint in this country.You cannot become just a ‘niche’ sports car brand, it just does not work, you have to a reasonable vehicle portfolio.As far as the Chinese go, everyone is battling against them, saturate the market with low prices with ‘perceived’ value, people will buy them.The rest of the vehicle manufactures will have to meet the Chinese head on to compete against them.Prices of their vehicles is a massive stumbling block for them, therein lies a big problem for the Japanese etc…

          • Euphemistic on 22/04/2024 - 09:47

            @Hackney:

            For one it is a sole importer, so they will always have a footprint in this country

            Why? More liekly theyll shut up shop overmight when their sales volumes drop below being profitable

            • Hackney on 22/04/2024 - 10:01

              @Euphemistic: Again, nope. Look @ Citroen, sales have always been extremely low,& have been for decades.Still here & will be for the foreseeable future.

              • Euphemistic on 22/04/2024 - 10:23

                @Hackney: Your confidence is inspiring. It could change pretty quick with a different person at the helm

                • Hackney on 22/04/2024 - 12:14

                  @Euphemistic: Absolutely! Decisions come out of Japan btw, not Honda corporate Australia.

    • Sinnerator on 19/04/2024 - 09:10

      that rabbit could be a reasonably priced car

  • Hackney on 19/04/2024 - 06:22
    +1

    The petrol variant of the HRV is not worth owning.Wife has the HRV Hybrid variant, just a great little car, it could do with a bit more power, but other than that it is fine, runs in EV mode a lot of the time.It’s not perfect, but what car is?Typical Honda build quality, just faultless.

  • beltdrive on 19/04/2024 - 09:38
    +3

    I ain't paying $55k for a Civic lmao. No doubt they're great cars, but I'm happy to buy a good car and save four figures

  • bamzero on 19/04/2024 - 10:25

    https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/infrastructure-transport-v…

    https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/sites/default/files/docume…

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-15/fact-check-vehicle-mi…

    Some reading material…

    Whether or not you call it a tax, it'll end up costing us in some way. In the pdf I recall the scheme itself is said to be expected to cost $14 something million in annual regulatory costs which no doubt would be passed on.

  • misstwist on 19/04/2024 - 10:49
    -2

    Fantastic News !! Onwards and Upwards :-)

  • drprox on 19/04/2024 - 21:04
    -2

    Lol dude what sort of rock have you been living under?!

  • ssdexecutor82 on 20/04/2024 - 00:08
    +2

    have found honda jazz to be very reliable

  • Windows98 on 20/04/2024 - 09:06
    +1

    It's funny watching the OB comments over the years going from mostly anti ev to now mostly pro ev.

    Amazing what a change in government can do to a community.

    • Euphemistic on 20/04/2024 - 14:11

      Its not the change in government, although that has helped. Its increwsed education amd recognition of what propaganda from fossil fuel companies has fed us.

    • tanksinatra on 20/04/2024 - 21:46

      It's not the government. EV's have gotten a whole lot better. The latest LFP EV's are miles better than the rapidly degrading Nissan Leaf's of old.

  • OzRealityBites on 20/04/2024 - 11:28
    +1

    Toyota has been doing the same, they are ditching their entire petrol/diesel range for hybrids, (excludes some model like the Landcruiser range).
    It's pretty overdue, they should have done it a decade ago like Mitsubishi (Audi already made plug-in hybrids in 1989), and they should already be shifting the bulk of their range from plug-in hybrids to next gen, either EV or hydrogen.

  • sardines on 20/04/2024 - 11:56
    -2

    So where is this change leaving renters and people living in units? I don't forsee chargers being installed in every carspot and on street parking for those who dont have a car space.

    • SydStrand on 20/04/2024 - 12:58
      +2

      Pretty sure these aren't PHEVs or EVs.

    • Euphemistic on 20/04/2024 - 14:12

      You can still buy petrol cars.

  • CocaKoala on 20/04/2024 - 14:03
    +1

    I'll never buy a civic, let alone a non hybrid, and even if I become stupid enough to consider one, I'll seriously not do so at the asking price.

    Their sales have been declining every year for at least 5 years in a row now, and there are many good reasons for that. Honda will become history in Australia if they continue being asleep at the wheel.

    • Hackney on 20/04/2024 - 18:46

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • greenslade on 21/04/2024 - 10:47
    +2

    dude do some calculations on lifetime running costs, and get yourself a hybrid or EV. This is Ozbargain after all. With taxes, petrol prices, emission regs, and maintenance, an ICE is no longer the way to go. Ignore the opinionators.

    • cloudy on 22/04/2024 - 22:18

      Balance those pros with higher opportunity cost of higher outlay and higher insurance costs of course, independent thinking requires both sides of thinking.

  • ChickenAdobo on 21/04/2024 - 20:06
    -1

    Getting myself an ev soon and (profanity) you icetard who are missing out on the electric Jesus gravy. Good riddance to the petrol baron bum raping my wallet every week. Won’t miss them one bit soon

    It like you (icetard) prefer to ride a coal train than riding the latest and greatest bullet train.

    • Hackney on 22/04/2024 - 10:03

      🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

      • ChickenAdobo on 22/04/2024 - 13:33

        🐒🐒🐒🐒🐒🐒

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