GGPAI Dash Cam 2160p (4K) 64GB 5Ghz Capacitor Mini 5 New $169.39 Shipped @ DDPAI via Amazon AU

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harshbdmmaster718 on 19/03/2024 - 20:12 amazon.com.au (425 clicks)
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so I have been having a look at these dashcams for someone else and have had my eye on the 4K one for awhile it has been $249.99 with $50 coupon always available making is $199.99. the cheaper Mini Pro was around $82 to $84.

the 4K one comes with Sony sensor, 64GB internal storage and the capacitor (which I still don't know what it does other than stores energy). you have to buy a endurance model microSD card for the Mini Pro so that ads another $30 to $40.

I've read up on these here's recently so a few points. Parking recording only works if you have it wired to the car's electronics with a separate kit (more $$). reviews and feedback seem positive in general, but a few negative ones say the WiFi connection failed or the app is buggy and doesn't work properly.

the things I don't know and maybe some ozbargainers can help.

is 1296p enough? or is 4K 2160p resolution a must?

also I assume if these are left in the car dashcams don't have lithium ion batteries.
so they run off USB-C (micro USB for Mini Pro) and on a budget can you just plug them in the car's USB port and they will power up and record video during driving?

what exactly is the capacitor for in the 4K model? does it charge up quickly like within seconds after you start the car, and then it can record like 1 hour of parking footage with that power after the car turns off?? or is it just for keeping the dashcam on a minute after you turn the car off so it can save the footage it just recorded.

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  harshbdmmaster718 on 19/03/2024 - 20:17

  damn should have checked previous deals the Mini Pro has been as low as $29.99 for first orders so I removed it.

  but I also posted with a few questions about dashcams as well. the 4K model doesn't seem to have been posted before.

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    adrianhughes1998 on 19/03/2024 - 20:54

    +1

    Capacitor is good for hot climates, essential really.

    I'd have to check the sony sensor but at this price point I seriously doubt it's real 4k. It's perhaps something like a sony imx335 5 megapixel sensor that outputs at 2.5k natively, blown up to 4k resolution. So you won't get the extra actual resolved detail that a 4k cam does.

    I have the Viofo a229 pro & Vantrue nexus 4 Pro both in my car at the moment which are actual 4k Sony 8 megapixel sensors. Again those are price brackets above and beyond

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      dosada on 19/03/2024 - 22:43

      It actually does have a Sony 8 mpix sensor with native 4k resolution.

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        adrianhughes1998 on 19/03/2024 - 22:56

        If so must be the older IMX415 then. Not Starvis 2 with the IMX678. Biggest pro I found with the Starvis 2 sensors in the IMX678 and IMX675 is that they handle the reflections off licence plates at night a hell of a lot better than previous gens, making them readable most of the time

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      MeesusEff on 19/03/2024 - 23:05

      Around what temps do the capacitors stop working? I have blueskysea in my cars but when we parked it outside in summer, it wouldn't work. Thought it died but it just had to cool off a bit. So now I'm not sure how it'll fare if we go out in summer

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        adrianhughes1998 on 19/03/2024 - 23:16

        I've only had limited testing thus far, but even 34 35C heat is enough to have it display overheating warning on the A229 Pro and have it shut down. This is in parking mode / stationary parked with engine running.

        Nexus 4 Pro kept recording and going on, but that does run the risk of overheating and damaging the whole unit, unlike Viofo which shuts down for safety reasons (I run both cameras, one as backup for the other)

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          harshbdmmaster718 on 20/03/2024 - 16:01

          @adrianhughes1998:

          I've only had limited testing thus far, but even 34 35C heat is enough to have it display overheating warning on the A229 Pro and have it shut down.

          damn that's with a capacitor right?

          so as I understand from your comment higher up, the capacitor is meant to keep it working on hot days but it might still stop working? the 4K GGPAI seems to also have a large aluminum piece inside the camera I wonder if that will help keep it recording. https://m.media-amazon.com/images/S/aplus-media-library-serv…

          I'm also thinking if it comes with the 64GB built in storage, its been designed to work constantly so might do alright?

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            adrianhughes1998 on 20/03/2024 - 16:44

            @harshbdmmaster718: It is with a capacitor and with heat sinks inside. I'm not sure the DDPAI would have a better cooling solution either, so it's a matter of just how these go for the price.

            Memory card heats up sure but that's not the issue here to be honest, it's the CPU heating up too much.

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              harshbdmmaster718 on 21/03/2024 - 16:56

              @adrianhughes1998: thanks.

              starting to think most of these are designed to just record when the G sensor goes off so heat isnt a problem?

              but im sure most people will prefer having it constantly record on a loop. so there is no missing video when the G sensor doesnt go off or the video doesnt start recording quick enough. I can understand heat being an issue if constantly recording 4K video because even expensive photo cameras overheat when recording 4K for a certain period (20 to 30 mins I think) and show a warning before shutting off.
              maybe a sort of solution would be to turn the video quality down to 2K or something so recording produces less heat. 2K on a 4K sensor should still look better than 2K on a 2K sensor right.

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                adrianhughes1998 on 21/03/2024 - 17:51

                @harshbdmmaster718: Heat can be a problem in parking mode because if the Cpu is too hot then no matter what resolution it's going to have trouble with it. Like you say, most people will constantly loop record because there are instances where parking mode / G sensor / the video isn't locked etc.

                2k on a 4k sensor should look better, but of course comes down to bitrate and image processing as well. For example I like the Vantrue image processing better than Viofo, but the bitrate is half of what Viofo does so I always stick with the Viofo.

                If you're worried about heat and don't mind taking the hit to resolution, the Viofo A119 Mini 2 and the Viofo VS1 also use Starvis 2 sensors but at 2k resolution. I have the VS1 in my car at the moment and it hasn't had any issues with heat, runs a lot cooler than the 4k cameras of course. In fact it's probably better than the Viofo A119 V3 when it comes to heat, considering that's an older solution too .

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                  harshbdmmaster718 on 21/03/2024 - 20:11

                  @adrianhughes1998:

                  I have the VS1 in my car at the moment and it hasn't had any issues with heat, runs a lot cooler than the 4k cameras of course.

                  thanks. Viofo VS1 seems to be priced well when on sale with bonus 32GB card included. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/829100

                  one thing for sure. 4K seems to be causing video heat issues for a lot of things. hopefully newer stuff can put up with more extreme heat.

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                    adrianhughes1998 on 21/03/2024 - 21:47

                    @harshbdmmaster718: VS1 is a good deal, again depends on your needs. At moment firmware is more mature with the Mini 2, pricing is same between the two but has a screen.

                    The chipsets in these dashcams are based on old architectures, literally from IPhone 5 or 6 days. Sure they support 4k but it's bolted on rather than using more efficient ARM CPUS. Shame but I'm sure they'll hit a bottleneck soon where Novatek won't have a choice but to update their chips.

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  tarxan on 19/03/2024 - 20:50

  re the USB C: yes, but get it hardwired to avoid the cabling, and so that it can still power on when the car is off to pick up crashes while you're gone