Hi, we cannot install a heated bathroom light with fan due to wall is single brick (no cavity).
Bathroom is really cold during winter. I read that Heated Towel Rails generate heat enough to make the bathroom warmer. I am not that certain but…
I would like some comments from people that have them installed and what do you think?
I’ve got a heated towel rail. Honestly… it makes no difference to the temperature of the room. Sorry OP :(
Yeah, I have one too and there’s no chance that it’ll heat up a bathroom.
get a heat an light unit with a remote?
https://www.pureventilation.com.au/buy/contour-white-4-heat-…
use the wall switch as the isolater for the whole unit then the remote to control it
Thanks for the link.
The heated towel rails produce about 150w, so approx 1/10th of a heater.
Each lamp in a IXLtastic style light/fan is 250w, and there is usually 2 or 4.
If you had your towel rail come on hours early in a sealed bathroom it would warm it a bit, but in the real world with a vent or other airflow, probably not noticeable.
You can get the heat lights with no fan, and you can get simple radiant bar heaters that are wall mounted for bathrooms.
Cold shower/awaken awaken your body
Why not just install a heat lamp?
No cavity wall. Strange but true🥶
Cannot install the switch
No cavity ceiling?
How do you turn the bathroom light on?
For the switch. The existing light switch was installed when the house was built. Apparently they drill trough the bricks.
@vegemite2008: Has an electrician told you it can’t be done?
You can chase more cable into wall if existing conduit won’t work.
They also sell heatlamps with a remote control
That would work with existing wiring.
@Stewardo: Because it is a single brick wall and the existing conduit is not big enough to push through more cables.
They use a wall chasing tool to cut a channel in the wall, to run the wires through from the source to the item needing power.
He said if we are to use the existing wiring, the fan, separate will come on every time we put on the light.
We had that in our old house and it might not seem as much but if we need to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night and a loud fan comes on, not very good….
In relation to heat lamps with a remote control, I assume they still need to have a wall switch somewhere?
@vegemite2008: you can buy a switch multiplier that will create an extra switch without the need of chasing a new cable in.
I installed this unit. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/144976166533. I fixed it on bathroom wall and it has cord and plugs into power point. Works fine. .
Build a bulkhead or add a faux wooden beam and run wiring through here
Imagine using that much electricity to heat a bathroom that you're in for a few minutes.
I read that Heated Towel Rails generate heat enough to make the bathroom warmer. I am not that certain but…
the answer is clearly no. The amount of heat they would need to pump out to heat a room would burn the towels to a crisp, and your electricity bill would skyrocket.
Imagine living somewhere and you wake up and it’s -5 Celsius and the bathroom is f#+{{ cold…then you will understand why people have bathroom heaters.
Also imagine you are a person who puts on makeup or shaves and uses the bathroom for more than a couple of minutes
I get that Ozb is Australia wide, but the majority of people don't experience sub-zero temperatures in Australia.
A roof heat lamp is sufficient. My comment was more about the amount of electricity required to use a towel rail to heat a room. Not only would that cost a lot but it would also take hours.
In Melbourne in winter a roof heat lamp isn’t sufficient. We have a small ceramic fan heater that is.
@try2bhelpful: A ceramic heather will be perfect. Effective, cheap and it will warm up the bathroom very fast. Thank you for the suggestion.
@vegemite2008: No probs. As I said below look for one that has cut out if you get water on it. Ours has water protected switches and a cut out if it shorts. It is close to 20 years old now. We sit it on the bathroom vanity top so it blows heat directly on you.
Bathroom is really cold during winter. I read that Heated Towel Rails generate heat enough to make the bathroom warmer. I am not that certain but…
Won't heat the room, it might take the chill of the air if you are super lucky but I doubt it. It will depend a lot on how drafty the room is.
Hi, we cannot install a heated bathroom light with fan due to wall is single brick (no cavity).
Try a wall heater? Lots around, the fan heater ones work well for warming up the room quickly.
https://goldair.com.au/products/gbfh200
https://jdlighting.com.au/heating/3-in-bathroom-heaters/wall…
"I read that Heated Towel Rails generate heat enough to make the bathroom warmer. I am not that certain but…"
Yes and No. Depends on which type.
Hydronic Heated Towel Rails are designed to heat up a room (as part of the whole house heating system), as a bonus they also dry and heat up your towels too.
However, when most people refer to Heated Towel Rails, they mean an electric version, which won't heat up a room.
Talk to an electrician. There is a part that can split them.
There are two ways of putting heat into a room. Radiation and convection.
A heated towel rail is going to put off a small amount of heat by convection. The problem with heating a bathroom that way is that it has to be well ventilated so mould doesn't form. So what you need in a bathroom is ventilation and heating by radiation, so the air might well be cold but the radiation strikes you and makes you feel warm.
If you can't install the usual form of bathroom heating, heat lamps, what you want is one of those outdoor wall-mounted radiators.
Buy a portable heater for $25.
Probably want to buy one with protections from water contact.
Could always leave it outside the shower.
It is a bathroom. It might get splashed with water.
Hmm, I would be worry if heated towel rail can heat up your whole bathroom!
23 heated towel rails will heat your bathroom!
Yeah, 100% tehcnically they make the bathroom warmer - but is this noticeable warmer and if so is it acceptably warmer? Impossible to say but for the intents of your question I would say no.
Suffice to say they are NOT made for this, so I'd doubt it highly, especially since the bathroom likely has an open ceiling vent where the vast majority of ANY heat is going within a few seconds.
Maybe a stupid question but have you considered a portable heater?
I think these only run at like 50d if that. The towel soaks up the heat (as it’s literally touching the rail) - I’m no all knowing expert but I just can’t see it radiating enough heat to make any real difference in even a small bathroom…