As per previous deal 50% off Coupon Deal - Deal is limited to one per customer.
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Based on the shape of this one, some people may enjoy it.
It only comes in black though.
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Try it and you'll never go back.
Will the display still light up?
It's $10.99 now
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Thanks op, ordered, it went back to 9.99 (19.99 - 50% coupon)
Not sure why it's marked as expired when the deal is still available?
I no longer see the coupon
No coupon showing, maybe because already bought, even though paid $17.99 (did not use coupon).
The volt meter on it is quite handy, especially if you run auxiliary equipment or do camping etc, can be an early warning if your car battery is on the way out too.
I have one and it can detect the fluctuations in voltage when you turn on all the lights and blower, wipers, windows etc at once.
yup no coupon showing
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It looks like the 50% coupon isn't available anymore.
Damn I actually needed this one as my old one is dying (loose connection)
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36W pd with only 5V 9V and 12V - not good for anything other than a phone really
That's probably the most common thing people charge in their cars anyway.
Agree, but feels a bit like bait advertising at "66W" - which you would assume would cover something decent for a laptop or tablet - even 15V 2A
Check the reviews though. Some people are claiming it's draining their car battery fast enough to be constantly killing the car.
Did you just cherry-pick that one review?
It's reviews like that which makes me wary of many reviews online - some people confidently state claims which can be impossible.
A charger cannot drain a car battery by simply charging a phone. The power has to go somewhere.
edit: sorry, I found a second review with more detail that blames the charger. The above remains true; a charger cannot drain a car battery - unless the power is going somewhere.
If you want to ignore those 2 reviews, be my guest. Others might be interested though. I think you should be very careful when you claim a thing is impossible, especially when there are examples of it having happened all over the Internet. Leaving a charger plugged in definitely has flattened people's batteries.
My car has an accessory charge port that is always on even with no key in the ignition. So I remove my phone chargers when not in use, just in case I don't end up driving my car for a week or more, even though the only thing they should be powering is a small always on LED on the charger.
As for the power going somewhere, yes it does. It doesn't have to be anywhere useful. A poorly designed charger can draw current and waste it as heat and light. If a car battery is say 50 Amp Hours, and your charger pulls 0.1A you only have 10*50 = 500 hrs for a total drain, and you'll be in trouble long before that. You should probably be making arrangements to ensure the car's battery doesn't drain if you're leaving it unattended for weeks, but not that's only for an 0.1A draw. A badly designed charger could definitely pull more idle and MUCH more when actually charging if doing so inefficiently.
First of all I apologise for the tone of my last comment, upon re-reading it, it certainly comes off brash!
If you want to ignore those 2 reviews, be my guest.
It's human nature to fixate on the negative. But if e.g. 100 people say they have no problem and 2 people say they do, it is likely the 2 people could have a defective item or are mistaken in their testing.
I think you should be very careful when you claim a thing is impossible, especially when there are examples of it having happened all over the Internet.
Yes parasitic drain is absolutely a thing, but I was talking about those specific reviews. The first review is ambiguous as he doesn't give a timeframe. The second one doesn't really make sense. You should read his review alongside my summary to confirm if I understand him right:
So he is claiming that plugging the charger into the cigarette lighter socket (which would be protected by a 10A fuse) caused such a heavy drain on his electrical system that his engine would stop running. His exact words:
"This adapter, even while not charging anything, is drawing enough power from my car to slowly drain the battery and cause it to get low enough that the engine dies. With a BRAND NEW ALTERNATOR."
Would you say that's plausible?
@eug: Let me ask you this: Do you think a jammed seat height adjustment mechanism on a BA Falcon could repeatedly kill the battery while it was parked overnight? Do you think that's plausible?
@syousef: Not sure what the relevance is.
The most a device can draw from a cigarette lighter socket is 10A.
The reviewer claims a charger plugged in to a cigarette lighter is drawing enough power to not only negate the output from a new alternator (typically 60-100A), but also discharge the car's battery as well.
How plausible is that?
@eug: The relevance is unexpected does not mean implausible or impossible.
That alternator has to provide power to keep the car battery topped up with all the electrics on the car going, not just the phone charger, so it is conceivable that the poster already had a system that was barely keeping up and the charger pushed it over. Or perhaps the new alternator or some other part of the car's electrical system was faulty. There aren't enough details to know for sure..
The relevance is unexpected does not mean implausible or impossible.
I suggest you ask any mechanic if plugging in a 10A load into a cigarette lighter socket can cause the engine to turn off.
Obviously the charger was not drawing 10A as that's close to what this oven draws. The charger would be on fire.
So also ask the mechanic if plugging in a 1A load into a cigarette lighter socket can cause a car to stall because it drained a brand-new battery.
Or perhaps the new alternator or some other part of the car's electrical system was faulty. There aren't enough details to know for sure..
That is my point. As I said in my first comment, it's reviews like that which makes me wary of many reviews online - some people confidently state claims which can be impossible.
It is far more likely that there is a problem with his newly-purchased used car rather than a phone charger that isn't charging anything managing to drain the brand-new battery of a car with a brand-new alternator while the engine is running, to the point where the engine stalls.
@eug: This is getting tiresome. To summarize:
I almost exclusively look for bad reviews and try to work out if the complaints are reasonable. That is EXACTLY what you have done, and exactly why I shared.
It is at least worth alerting people of the negative reviews. You couldn't have considered any of this if I didn't do so.
The issue is the quality of the negative reviews you're pointing out. You would be doing a disservice if you were pointing out reviews that were incorrect or misleading.
Not everyone is technical so I can understand why they might blame something based on questionable evidence which is why I think it's important to actually read and understand the reviews and not just rely on the rating. Evidently you didn't actually read or understand that review as you simply assumed parasitic drain from a parked car over a long period of time whereas the review was clearly not describing parasitic drain.
@eug: You didn't even find the second negative review until you went back and looked, but you're blaming me for "pointing out reviews that were incorrect or misleading"??? You don't see the hypocrisy? I didn't take the time to evaluate the quality of the reviews, but you missed one of them entirely.
How about I just point out what I noticed in a glance I took, and let people decide for themselves? Which again, is exactly what I did. I wasn't posting a review. I was making a comment.
And no I didn't spend a long time contemplating how accurate the buyer reviews were. I noticed something and I pointed it out for people who might actually be interested in buying this. Which I wasn't, in the end given I have a couple of spare 2A chargers that will do just fine on the road. They are big boys and girls who can decide for themselves whether to pay attention to those reviews. I'm not really interested in addressing what you think I do and don't know. It doesn't matter to me.
I'm getting very tired of this conversation, and frankly I think you're being disingenuous about your motives for criticizing me. You should consider whether you're really interested in improving the quality of comments on the forum or having a **** measuring contest. Is putting people off commenting unless they check every nuanced detail really in the interests of users on this forum? Are you an electrical engineer or an auto electrician? Because you seem to think you know an awful lot about the nuances of what is and isn't possible in general for all motor vehicle charging circuits regardless of their size and what's connected to them.You've wasted an awful lot of my time and yours on what was essentially me saying "Hey, you might want to consider the negative reviews that say blah".
You didn't even find the second negative review until you went back and looked, but you're blaming me for "pointing out reviews that were incorrect or misleading"???
Yes, because you're the one who pointed them out. The onus is on the poster to ensure they're not spreading possible misinformation, or at least mention that the review they're talking about has a questionable conclusion.
I'm not sure why you're so put off by someone fact-checking the reviews you posted about. You mentioned some people have said the charger drains their batteries, I checked the most detailed review and explained why the scenario is implausible. For some reason you take that personally and simply refuse to believe that a random reviewer on Amazon could possibly be mistaken.
Is putting people off commenting unless they check every nuanced detail really in the interests of users on this forum?
Spreading misinformation is not in the interests of users of this forum. Customer reviews can be flawed so I believe it's important to actually read the reviews first before reposting information.
If there were a higher percentage of reviews complaining about battery drain then there'd be a higher probability that the charger really has an issue, but the number is really small so there's a higher probability that the issue is with the reviewer's cars rather than the charger.
@eug: There is no onus on me mate. I'm not a journalist. I'm not a reviewer. I'm just commenting on a board. Get over youself.
Literally one line: "Check the reviews though. Some people are claiming it's draining their car battery fast enough to be constantly killing the car."
I spread no misinformation. I pointed out something for people to consider. Nothing I wrote above is factually incorrect. Nothing misleading. I literally pointed people to check it for themselves. And then you started ranting at me.
You didn't just fact check me and you didn't fact check me well at all. You didn't even find the second review until you looked again. The hypocrisy is off the scale. Why aren't you holding yourself to the same standard you're holding me? Why do you think it's fine for you to post information that doesn't survive a fact check, but not me? Not that I actually got anything wrong, unlike you. I'm sorry but I can't help but actually chuckle at the self-importance. What you wrote just plain wrong and misleading. There wasn't only ONE review. YOU missed the other one. But that's ok, you can get things wrong because it fits your pre-conceived judgement and you are special. And you have the gaul to pretend to police me. That behaviour is just circus-clown funny.
Are you done beating this dead horse yet? Or are we going to keep going here? It's not me that's looking bad, champ.
There is no onus on me mate. I'm not a journalist. I'm not a reviewer. I'm just commenting on a board.
This is why the internet has a misinformation problem.
It's not me that's looking bad, champ.
I pointed out that the reviews you mentioned - which you evidently did not even read - contains very questionable information. You absolutely refuse to accept that a random reviewer on Amazon may be mistaken, and take it as a personal attack instead.
I'll leave it there. Please hide my posts by clicking the hide button to save both of us some time in the future.
@eug: You are still ranting about me getting it wrong. I got nothing wrong. YOU are the one that said ONE review. YOU are the one spreading misinformation. And YOU are the one that is being a total hypocrite. And you still haven't addressed any of my valid points about that hypocrisy. You can go around telling the world others are spreading misinformation while you are the one spreading the misinformation. And you can go around saying that even though it was a one line warning I posted that had nothing factually incorrect about it. But if you do that and it's me you're targeting with the smear campaign and insults, I'm going to call you out on it. I'm not hiding anything. I'm not going to give you free reign to criticize me without right of reply. That you think I don't know what you're pulling is one heck of an insult and another example of you being wrong. If you don't want to engage with me, then don't. If you want to hide my posts, go right ahead. You engaged with me, buddy, not the other way around.
You are still ranting about me getting it wrong. I got nothing wrong.
Yes, because you never reviewed the charger. I said that the reviews you mentioned were implausible (or ambiguous as I describe below). You're just refusing to accept that the Amazon reviews could be mistaken.
I personally would not have posted about those reviews because I actually read them and doubt the accuracy of the claims. Simply reposting information without actually reading it first isn't much different to someone reposting fake news on Twitter or Facebook without checking the claims beforehand.
If I wasn't sure about some claims in a review I would mention my concerns in a post and provide a link so other people can read it and comment about it. That is after all the point of a forum - for people to have discussions.
If I did post a link to inaccurate information on a public forum, I wouldn't start attacking anyone who questions it.
YOU are the one that said ONE review.
Yes. That one review I linked to at the start said the charger charges his phone fast but drained his battery. I read it as that - the charger charged his phone quickly but drained his battery, which isn't possible as the charger will only take out of the battery what it puts in to his phone, plus some minor conversion losses.
Upon re-reading it I realised it was ambiguous as he doesn't say when his battery was drained - when it was charging his phone quickly, or was the car unused for weeks then it drained? An ambiguous review isn't helpful as you cannot form a valid conclusion. That was when I saw the second review with all that detail which was rather implausible.
There is no need to get so worked up over forum posts. I'm still not sure why you're so staunchly defending the accuracy of the Amazon reviews you mentioned, but there's no need to get so worked up. I'm also not sure what smear campaign and insults you're referring to.
This is why the internet has a misinformation problem.
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There is no need to get so worked up over forum posts.
Hahahahahaha now you're just trolling.
I wrote one line and you've been attacking me ever since, insisting I'm going to bring about the fall of the freakin' Interwebs for pointing out that people might want to look at reviews you've decided aren't credible but "don't get so worked up".
Classic gaslighting. Save it for someone it might actually work on. And thanks for the belly laugh.
@syousef: I pointed out that the reviews you were referring to were rather questionable in terms of accuracy.
Simply posting information without verifying it first, or attacking posts that point out incorrect information, is how misinformation spreads.
@eug: Not checking? You mean like not checking the reviews thoroughly enough to notice that there was a second one before deciding the reviews weren't credible? That sort of not checking? "There is no need to get so worked up over forum posts" right? Unless it's you getting on your high horse, then it's totally ok, right? Keep going. I need a good laugh. The lack of logical consistency of your arguments, and your inability to hold yourself to your own standards is epic.
@syousef: You keep trying to deflect the discussion away from the fact that the information you posted was inaccurate. That is amusing.
@eug: Haven't deflected a thing mate. You keep doubling down and ignoring every point I make. You either can't see your own hypocrisy, or are making a very poor attempt at being manipulative. I'm going to guess the points I've raised are easy enough for you to follow, so next time you try to troll and gaslight someone, you might want to pick a target that'll fall for it.
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