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Peak Design Unisex X Backpack (20L) $250 Delivered @ ACS Technology via Amazon AU

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A good price for anyone who missed the 30L deal yesterday and the 20L deal a couple of weeks ago. No as cheap as before but still a good deal for a bag that goes over high 3s to 4s.

Peak Design feature video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxmcpOqrGnY&t=1480s

Peak Design Product Page here.
https://au.peakdesign.com/collections/everyday-bags/products…

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  • +5

    Why is this a bargain?

    • +3

      Clearly you didn't read my description. The bags regularly goes for high $300s to mid $400s.

      • +25

        What makes them able to command such a high price?

        • +7

          Clearly you didn't read his description.

          "No as cheap as before but still a good deal"

          He used the word 'still'

        • +14

          I've owned their slings. They are very high quality and I believe have a lifetime workmanship warranty.

          A mate of mine purchased one of these about 8 years ago, a few years into ownership there was an issue with the zipper. They promptly took it back and replaced it.

          Absolutely love this for carrying my camera gear. I mean they're carrying over $5k worth of camera gear so I genuinely don't mind paying for such high quality construction.

          • +2

            @ThadtheChad: lifetime warranty is a bit of a stretch, the truth is they only try to provide a warranty when they are in business, and nobody knows how long they'll survive if they keep charging prices like this, just do a quick search for camera bags, the competition is real. To me, this does not justify their pricing, especially in their less innovative product line like bags and tripods. That said, I do appreciate some of their products like the straps and quick-release capture clips, pricy as they might be, they are convenient and built solid.

            • @gottadeal: But, tbf, they are the best though!

              I hate their prices, but, their products are still the best!

            • +2

              @gottadeal: Tbh mate, I'd suggest, their pricing is definitely in line with the higher end of the market (e.g. manfrotto, Wandrd), so I don't really see them going anywhere. Lowe is very popular but is a step down in terms of market - so would be definitely something for the price sensitive market.

              I mean things like GM lenses exist, if someone is paying 2-3.5k for a lens (I own a 16-35mm GM II and my god it was expensive!), they really won't balk at paying 250 to protect it?

              • +1

                @ThadtheChad: Good point, that's why the market is quite rediculous in the first place.

          • +1

            @ThadtheChad: Thanks for explaining, appreciate it.

        • +13

          stage 3 tax cuts and people earning above $150k … i recall one of the independent MPs saying how tough it will be as high income earners didn’t get full tax cut , luckily these bags are on special.

          • +3

            @garage sale: It will be much tougher for someone earning 150k in a single income family with kids than a couple making 150k combined without kids.

            • +2

              @Lets Make Sandwiches: Absolutely! Wish there was a way to consider the family/couple income - very unlikely to happen since this doesn't benefit the government.

        • +6

          Build quality and lifetime warranty. I backed the original messenger bag on Kickstarter and when the waterproofing on the zipper had a few issues about two years after I received it, they replaced it with no issues. I completely wore the replacement out after another seven years and they've just sent me a brand new one of their latest model, I'm using it a lot less than I used to so I'm pretty sure it'll last me at least another few decades. Not bad for the price given how much of a beating I've given three bags!

        • +1

          This is bag for professionals, who need high quality equipment for their tools.

          At this price, given the quality and lifetime warranty, and the sheer cost of the things it will be protecting, it's a steal.

          • +2

            @casualusercts: I have had my V1 for 5 Years now and it looks almost as good as the day I bought it, considering the value of the stuff I carry plus the fact that I have worn it on a motorcycle daily in sun and rain, I would say I have more than gotten the value out of the bag.

    • +6

      This bag seems ideal for carrying 10 2L tubs of ice cream. Or seven 3L tubs, if you eat 2/3 of one of the tubs first.

      • Just imagine how long 20 Lang of ice cream will last you! Good for a weekend at least, I would say, depending on how many friends drop by

    • +5

      none of you complain when some shitty electric car is reduced by $1k

    • is that you jV?

      Have a search on google to get a rough idea before commenting:
      https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=602202052&sxsrf=ACQVn0…

      Not endorsing these nor know anything about them, but no doubt plenty of options for that price and I'd want more water proofing perhaps.

    • its a high quality bag, good features with slots for equipment. i use it as an everyday bag for work

    • +4

      because it is unexpectedly cheap compared to its RRP

        • makes crumpler look cheap … and i thought lowe was expensive for camera gear.

      • +1

        RRP - the price you set just before you post the item on ozbargain.

    • +1

      $250 is better than $300-$400?

      Different strokes for different folks. Some will rather just use packing boxes, others might like a proper backpack.

        • +2

          But worse than $50.

          That's still worse than $1. Infact, let's get folks to pay you for buying their stuff? Would that qualify, o great arbiter of deals?

      • +7

        Hope you’re okay x

      • +2

        ..really isnt for you then?

    • +7

      Try using the full definition: a thing bought or offered for sale much more cheaply than is usual or expected.

      You’re confusing the definition of cheap with bargain.

      • -8

        a thing bought or offered for sale much more cheaply than is usual or expected.

        I 'expected' this to sell for around $50

        • +5

          Clearly yours and their expectations do not align.

            • +3

              @jv: There is always something available to cater for a budget conscious customer. See this for example.

              • @notJV: But only 86 out of 4647 upvoted that deal. Less than 2%…

      • +1

        No no no Chuppa, YOU are the one that missed the FULL definition:

        a thing bought or offered for sale much more cheaply than is usual or expected. SUBJECT TO HUNTINGFORBARGAINZ SOLE AND UNIVERSAL APPROVAL

        /s

    • +7

      It was answered the last time you asked https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/14892679/redir
      Stop being a nuisance.

    • No, as we all know people here will lose their minds for a $2 discount.

  • +1

    Yup, still a great price for the V2 20L bag.

  • +6

    I had the older version of this bag. The sternum strap sucks and not usable for wider chests. Also just straight up not comfortable compared to a proper pack. If only Osprey made a camera backpack…

    • Compare an Osprey bag, to this "camera bag". It is quickly apparent, that this one is simply a regular backpack with some foam inserts.

      Yet it is being sold as a premium product, comparable to osprey and other similar companies' products.

      How? "It's a camera bag" seems to be the main justification. Lol

      • How any bag can be better than a bag designed for hiking im really not sure. My hiking pack which I use as a day pack has a tight meshed and framed back ventilation system which is a dream.

      • +2

        The configurability of the inside Velcro separators and dual side access makes it great for camera equipment and general travel. I wouldn't use one as a hiking backpack, it's too heavy. Equally though, I'd prefer not to use my hiking backpack for international travel or carrying my camera equipment.

      • +1

        Having used osprey bags, and this, they just have largely different purposes. The Peak design is built to be a very well made, solid bag with compartments and . The osprey stuff is built to be very light but supportive, but that isn't useful if your kit you are bringing with you is camera gear that requires a bit more protection. When I travel, I carry around a camera body and a couple of lenses. This bag allows for them to be sealed way safely, with protection from the elements amd quick easy access.

        If you aren't carrying around a camera body and a couple of lenses etc, this is likely not worth looking at for you. If I had the Osprey I'd likely still need some sort of camera bag/cube inside to actually use it, which would make the gear more difficult to access.

  • +2

    It is definitely not a technological backpack. Far from Osprey or Deuter. And yet, there is no Hermes or Chanel logo on it. I don't see any crocodile leather either, just plain sinthetic fabrics… So what makes them worth the price? And don't get me wrong, happy to pay $200 for a nice Deuter becuase I see what I pay for.

    • +2

      It’s designed for a specific niche user which most likely isn’t you.

      Brought on of these for $209. Pleased with my purchase

      • +2

        It’s designed for a specific niche user

        What is their name ?

        • +16

          Icecold5000

        • +1

          It's designed as a camera bag, with sturdy build, good weather sealing, quick access to pull out a camera from the side. If you don't want that, then this is not for you. Osprey and Deuter are targeting a very different market. It's not an ultralight travel bag, it is all about the design, compartments, and ease of use for a photographer.

    • +5

      They made stuff for photographers, i think that’s why. Make sense to invest a bit more if your camera alone is already costing few grands.

    • These are leagues above Osprey/Deuter/Hermes/Chanel in terms of functionality and specialty. I would definitely not even consider putting $10K worth of camera equipment in any of those brands you mentioned.

    • +19

      Your primary reason to pay for it would be if you have photography gear. This makes a pretty decent backpack to carry a laptop + camera + lens. It provides easy access to camera gear through side pockets. There's also a level of water resistance.

      The bag is well padded hence the weight and has more structure than the typical backpack. To get the same level of functionality from some of the backpacks you've mentioned, you're sacrificing connivence as you'd be adding padded cubes, rain protection. Even then, you wouldn't be able to access gear as easily.

      It's also a pretty good everyday backpack and rates well compared to other backpacks with more of a focus on just carry. It also has a decent warranty.

      I've had various backpacks over the years - $20 basic ones, dodgy freebies from conferences, motorcycle focussed, Osprey, Deuter, Crumpler, Herschel, Bellroy, Dell, etc. Like any product, there's diminishing returns and this one is well past the sweet spot.

      • +2

        Finally, a good explanation!

      • +3

        Yeah, tbh if I just wanted a backpack, I'd go for an Osprey Nebula or a North Face Recon any day of the week.

        For camera equipment, hands down a peak design sling/backpack is what it's going in. There is no way in hell I'm trusting my Nebula to safely cushion my GM lens(es).

      • +2

        Ok, basically it is not a backpack, it is a softshell case for cameras and lenses. It is just in a backpack format this is why it may be confused for a backpack. Does not stand a chance against a true backpack (Deuter, Osprey) in their use scenario of a day running backpack, hydration backpack and cycling backpack…
        Camera cases market is something I am unfamiliar with, but I can just say something about musical instrument cases which are a bit similar: a hard case is usually better than soft case. It is more robust and safer, it can double up as an airplane bag for the camera and can withstand more abuse.

        PS the only camera case that I have has been purchased a lot cheaper and it has been great - still as new after 10 years of use. But I am not a professional. The brand is Sony.

        • +2

          It's a practical backpack and people who buy it use it for all purposes. Personally, I wouldn't use it for everything but I have bags which are more focussed on different tasks.

          As mentioned it is probably overkill for many people. I use the 30L model as an office bag and do like it for that purpose but there is no way the improvement was worth the price tag over the previous bag. The other bag I was looking at when I was considering the PD was not camera focused, there was minimal price difference and user satisfaction from users seemed to be better with the PD backpack.

          I've also used a cheaper photography bag with similar capacity, and I think this is a decent upgrade over that. Generally, I throw my camera into a… Peak Design sling.

          I'm guessing you wouldn't stick your musical instruments into a backpack and they're best off in purpose built cases. Even taking a laptop as an example, you're not going to put it into a cheap backpack. At the very least, you'd expect some degree of padding. For a more expensive laptop you may even buy a more expensive bag and expect a higher level of protection. For example, water resistance or a false bottom to better protect it in the event of a drop.

    • +1

      True lifetime warranty. As long as you haven't damaged it through mis-use, they'll replace it. They stand by that, too - I've replaced my messenger bag twice over almost a decade, once because of a manufacturing flaw that showed up after two years and once because I worn it out through constant use.

  • +2

    was cheaper a couple of days ago, will wait for that.

  • -2

    I guess the price is so high because youtubers with 18m subscribers are not cheap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pTGc7cIBIA

    • -1

      Lol!! The truth hurts… Yet people on here will blindly buy this bag.

  • -1

    $250 for a backpack…

    • And only a 20 litre backpack too.

      • +1

        I always factor in cost per litre when buying a bag

  • +3

    Been rocking one of these since the kickstarter almost a decade ago now. 100% recommended (and their sling too!) for photogs!

  • +2

    Came to the comments to check if it was a $25 typo. Not :(

  • +27

    The stupid comments are out in full force. This way people will be hesitant to post deals and will always mentally ask if this is a deal bargain enough for the cheapies at OzB, meaning we will start missing out on deals on high end stuff. Whether it's worth it or not, is for the buyer to decide. Not buying this backpack but upvoting the deal.

    • +12

      Negative comments are fine if they actually bring something of value to the table (i.e. suggestions of alternate bags of equivalent functionality and quality) but its mostly useless comments just balking at the price and clueless people suggesting random useless backpacks that aren't even camera bags.

      • +4

        This is exactly the problem. A certain user should have been banned long ago for their incessant trolling that adds no value to this site.

      • +2

        They’re not negative comments but ignorant comments. 5 minutes on the Peak Design website looking at this product would have resolved their questions.

        • +1

          "still too expensive, hurr durr"

    • +6

      Yeah, I don't get why the mouth breathers come out of the woodwork whenever something slightly higher-end is posted. Every deal doesn't need to cater to the entire demographic of this site.

      For instance, I have no interest in the usual food freebies/fastfood/grocery/shovelware video games deals. So I scroll past those and don't start shitting on people who find value in those deals.

      I really hope we never come to the point where people hesitate posting deals on higher end/quality items in fear of the el-cheapos mobbing them.

    • +4

      The OZB community has taken a negative turn due to an influx of trolls and individuals who lack an understanding of the deals, resulting in irrelevant comments such as "250 for a bag!!?!!" or "I bought this $50 cheaper in 2000."

      Many seem to be misunderstanding the site's purpose - If I find a deal saving me even $10 in my purchase, hell yeh that's a bargain. It's important to understand that everyone has different preferences , just because you enjoy your $15 bag that lasts you 50 years doesn’t mean we all do.

      • Not necessarily true. I think the OP could have use case in there e.g. ideal for photography gear or for those who appreciate lifetime exchange warranty.. the demographic then changes.
        For people who just want a nice backpack there's many other alternatives..
        See, I spent more on my backpack but it's actually smaller than this. But I got mine purely for aesthetic purposes. So it's not necessarily the cost. It's the description associated with the product.

        • +2

          Not necessarily true. I think the OP could have use case in there e.g. ideal for photography gear or for those who appreciate lifetime exchange warranty.. the demographic then changes.

          I think you'll still see a ton of "hurr durr… bought 10!" style of comments by the muppets. Then there are the more malicious comments, that seem to thing the world revolves around their perception of value.

          This is further exacerbated by the whole class-warfare being spurred by MSM presently (with the Stage 3 tax cuts highlighting the divide), so all the people with a chip on their shoulder use this as a platform to unload.

          • +1

            @ThadtheChad: Fair enough, personally i feel like the OP was promoting this as a Backpack and only as a backpack..
            I did do a little more reading around on their website etc. but in all fairness it would have been nice to see it in the OP.. and don't worry about the users who make you feel guilty spending money on more expensive items. the class warfare was something i never understood in this place.. each person perceives value subjectively.
            My criticism is really the lack of information identifying the price of this bag.
            N.b. i really shouldn't complain as my backpack is a Coach leather backpack thats worth $600 but as i mentioned i bought it on an aesthetic purpose and for many that bag is a complete waste of money… End of the day my money and my purchase.

            • +1

              @maverickjohn: Absolutely 100%! I do agree a bit more information would have helped - but equally people should have given OP a bit more of leeway I reckon.

              I can absolutely understand buying something classy like a leather backpack. My current obsession is Japanese raw denim, and I've spent a tidy bit getting a few pairs over. Different strokes for different folks eh!

              • +1

                @ThadtheChad: 100%, im interested to see this denim backpack from Japan. planning a japan trip early next year might pick one up on my way back (Return carry-on :P)

    • +3

      It really is dumb isn't it. People spend over $10k on a watch but we don't have people saying "go use a sundial".

  • +19

    So many shit takes in the comments.

    This is a photography focused backpack that has multiple features that also allow it to be a useful bag as an everyday carry.

    For its intended purpose of carrying camera gear and being an EDC in between, this bag is extremely good.
    If you are just buying this for an every day bag, I think you could easily get something cheaper and more practical.
    This has padded walls and so is quite rigid and weighs a bit + has adjustable dividers.
    As an EDC only bag, this is overkill.
    For a photography bag + EDC, it is great.

    I have taken mine on multiple trips and it has been really good bag.

    And if you're into photography and have gear that costs anywhere from $1-10k+, paying $2-300 or even $400 to keep your gear protected isn't crazy.

    • -8

      I wouldn't use this bag for my camera equipment… No way.

      Having watched the detailed YouTube review, it looks like a regular backpack with some padding, and some padded dividers. I'm struggling to see why this might be considered to be a good deal at $250.

      The only thing that I can see as a point of reference, is the rrp of $430.

      • Typical fanboy stuff like for Apple fans which's main explanation of being overpriced is greed and number of fanboys.

      • +1

        I've used mine for my DSLR / 24-70 / 80-200 and it's absolutely great. The comfigurability and ease of access from either side makes it great to use. I've also used it as a carryon for international flights for years, also great.

        I might be able to find something better for cheaper but it's been an absolute joy for me to use for as long as I've had it. It also has a lifetime warranty which they've honored twice on my messenger bag so while the price seems high, there's a lot of quality and warranty baked into it.

      • +1

        On the surface of looking at a YouTube review, that might seem the case. Go into a camera store and look at one, as well as looking at other similar photography packs, designed for quick access etc (which most regular backpacks are just not designed for). Having owned a bunch of backpacks cheaper than it, as well as checked out many more expensive than it, the combination of function and build quality is extremely competitive even at rrp.

      • So what would you suggest instead? I was in the market for the 30L peak design backpack, I missed the deal before.

        I carry an a7IV and a 16-35 GM II as well as a Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8.

      • +1

        Then please enlighten me on what you would use.

        Because for me, this is perfect for carry my gear and I would recommend others consider it if they were looking for a bag to carry their own camera gear.

  • +1

    Seems like these shitposts are just people mot doing well financial the current environment so please show some sympathy and don't be too harsh on them.

    • Yep, getting a very strong vibe of "sour grapes" here.

    • -1

      I agree. It's all marketing. Just another overpriced product, that people are being paid to promote/ hype up.

    • +2

      eh, to be fair - you would be looking at a 40L+ camera bag to fit the EF 600 unmounted and 40L+ camera bags are quite up there in price…

      • TBF: you shouldn't promote a camera bag at this price range only to start putting conditions about how it won't fit this or that lens

        • +3

          because capacity is the determining factor of value right?

          If you had any sense you wouldn't want to be buying a 20L bag for a 600mm lens, let alone a 400mm lens because of all the other stuff you'd be looking at carrying with it. Hell you'd probably be looking at more of a roller at that point.

          • -1

            @GUYANDSON: Yeah, I saw so many roads where I would be going with a roller to go deep in the forest for wildlife photos, which are the primary purpose of EF 600. Have you tried anything like that?

            • @Ozzster: keep trying.

              A hardsided roller case like a pelican roller? absolutely.

              Standard soft sided luggage roller? not at all but I'd toy with the idea of a well made one if I was lugging a super zoom like that around primarily for sports shooting between cities.

              • @GUYANDSON: Absolutely not. I can't imagine those little wheels working in the mud, high grass, mountains, and everything else you need to deal with for wildlife.

                • @Ozzster: Would you actually be using it for the actual roller functionality while out in terrain? no. Would you be using it for the fact that it's a sturdy ass pelican and you can throw it around? yes. Would you benefit from the wheels working in cities and other urban environments? yes.

                  It's clear as day you don't have a clue about carry in the category mate, you can keep moaning about things being overpriced as much as you want without being aware of the reality. Keep trying to find these absurd cases to justify your ignorance.

            • @Ozzster: As someone who actually did this stuff posted further down the chain (they actually carried a ton of stuff, and used an earlier iteration of the bag linked below).

              Here you go, this should fit your EF 600:
              https://www.lowepro.com/au-en/pro-trekker-bp-650-aw-ii-lp374…

              Even if you were going to carry 500ish you're still looking at spending $400-600 bucks on a proper camera backpack.

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