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US$20 Discount on Seats.aero Subscription (Qantas & Velocity Reward Seat Search Engine) - US$79.99 (~A$121.67) for 1 Year

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Seats.aero is one of the newest search engines for award (i.e. reward seats) travel, and they've just added support for both Qantas Frequent Flyer and Velocity. You can create a seat alert to let you know when seats are released, and view a full year of reward seat availability without needing to mindlessly search the Qantas or Virgin websites.

While there are other websites such as ExpertFlyer, Seats.aero also shows partner airline reward seat availability (for example Emirates seats using Qantas Frequent Flyer).

They currently support over 10 reward programs including additional airlines such as Air Canada Aeroplan, American Airlines AAdvantage, United MileagePlus and more.

Base features are free to use with searches limited to the next 60-days. Otherwise you can unlock full calendar searching, seat alerts and other cool filtering functions with a subscription at US$79.99 (~$121.67 AUD) per year using the coupon code "LGTTP20".

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  • +6

    Love this service highly recommend

  • +15

    Can you change the title to be the price after discount as per the guidelines: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/wiki/help:title_guidelines
    Thanks

  • +2

    There default searches and settings are arse. Doesnt seem to show a lot of seats. I see way more in the qantas search site

  • Does this help me get reward points?

    • +3

      No just the opposite. Spend points

  • +17

    US$79.99 (~$121.67 AUD) per year using the coupon code "LGTTP20".

    That annual fee is already a bit expensive,
    unless one has hundreds of thousands of points,
    and regularly accrues huge amounts of frequent flyer points,
    to get benefit from that subscription cost.

    • +5

      Way too expensive to justify

    • +6

      Obviously, anyone who doesn't regularly travel and accrue and redeem large (+100-200K) numbers of FF points each year isn't going to need this service or get any tangible benefits from it, even with the discount.

      But for those of us who are doing this… then the annual fee costs of this service and/or Expoert Flyer are usually recouped many times over by finding and redeeming Reward seats using FF points versus paying cash for the same seats.

      This looks interesting and has some good differentiators for usability over EF, which I find to be hard work to use sometimes.

  • +6

    I'd be a little wary of signing up for 12 months considering they are currently being sued by Air Canada - might not exist in a year?

    • +3

      Maybe the membership fees are to save up for their legal costs :-)

  • +2

    I would like to trial this or pay a no regret fee (under $50 max). Even with discount difficult to jump into something at this price without having high level of certainty re benefit

    • +4

      You can also pay $10usd per month then cancel when you don’t need it

  • +7

    Just a heads up on using this for Qantas flights; whilst it'll show you availability of reward seats by class, it won't show you the number available so it's functionally not great if you aren't a solo traveller. Having just booked a RTW business class trip for 2 using only points with Qantas this year, you're better off learning how to drive the multi-city tool on Qantas' website (yes, it's painful and flakey but it does work if you use it right). It does actually state that on the seats.aero site somewhere but I missed it so it cost me a month's sub before I cancelled.

    • +1

      Any tips on efficient use of the QF multi leg engine? It’s nightmarish trying to book out a basic J RTW when one leg without availability just breaks the whole search.

      • You should be searching legs one by one

        • Then book by phone?

          • +4

            @tunzafun001: You can still book online just that it is far easier if you are looking to do a RTW trip to find availability one leg at a time and then book once you know each individual leg rather than filling in the multi city tool every single time.

        • Sorry, should’ve mentioned I did this, but it’s clunky and slow. Doesn’t help when there’s barely any availability for reward seats in J, maybe that’s a thing now that QF has started a rapid descent to shitness.

      • Sorry, only just came back to this now. Basically what's already been mentioned. Try one leg at a time, have a lot of patience and J are hen's teeth. Depending on which OW carrier you will end up for that leg, and depending on how far out you try, it's an absolute lottery. Key tips would be try between 360-300 days out, have flexibility in your itinerary if you can (I ended up going the reverse direction from originally planned because I could only get the Europe/Asia bridge flight in one direction) and it helps if you're Platinum or above status.

        • +1

          I’m not in a good spot then, basic bronze and need to be out in 4 months. Might have to be a Y RTW this time round! Thanks for the reply!

          • @zfind: All I can suggest is check daily and get on the facebook FF groups, because often people will post up there when there are drops of new seats. They don't drop them all 1 year out, they do some then and then it seems random ones as it gets closer to the time. That is actually where the seats.aero thing could come in handy as I believe you can set up alerts, but my original comment still applies with it not showing how many available.

          • @zfind: Where are you trying to go and which routes have you checked so far?

            • @Autonomic: It’s been a little while since I checked but my ideal routing would be:

              PER > SIN / HKG > CPH > HEL > JFK > MEX > SYD > PER

              I haven’t fully worked out whether that’s within the OW Explorer rules because at the time I couldn’t get much J availability.

              • @zfind: You can have a max of 5 stopovers.

                PER-KUL-SIN
                SIN-HEL-CPH
                CPH-HEL
                HEL-JFK
                JFK-MEX
                MEX-LAX/DFW-SYD

                Is 5 already. SIN-HEL is a rare flight to find (HKG-HEL, HKT-HEL and BKK-HEL are much more common). MEX-SYD is going to be difficult too without adding a stopover. US to Australia flights are also rare to find in J but not impossible.

                • @Autonomic: Thanks for the info! I plan to dedicated some time to get into the availability this weekend, it’s a headache though so I might just make life easy and settle for Y RTW

    • +1

      Yep good comment. I've found pointsyeah.com far better for more than one pax as it searches the program directly (and live, not cached)

  • Used to subscribe when they supported Lifemiles. Excellent service still for eg. United or Aeroplan.

  • +1

    I signed up for their trial and used their API which was incredibly helpful to find RTW tickets. Highly recommended

    • +3

      Wouldn’t have a nifty tool to share?

      • It was all very amateur and ad-hoc, happy to share what I made in python if you wanna DM me.

        • Thanks for the offer but I don’t think I’ll have the skills or capacity to play with it, I’m just trudging through with the god-awful QF booking engine 🤢

    • +1

      Username does not check out!

  • +4

    Wonder if worth doing a classified and sharing fee among 10-20 people

    • Can't because they email you a link to login. It's not password based so unless you share a common email with those 10-20 people it won't work

      • +4

        Catch all email with a distribution list

    • I'm in, I would only need to access it a couple of times a year

      • +1

        Then probably better off paying the $10pm for the times/month you need to use it. If it helps you find a Reward seat… then $10 is a bargain IMO.

    • Are you doing it? I’m in

  • +5

    IME you are probably better off paying monthly for a month or two at the time you are trying to book reward tickets.

  • which service can monitor Singapore airline and Cathay Pacific?
    It seems ExpertFlyer cannot monitor either of them.

  • Good service that has its limitations. The Black Friday sale was better. Long gone alas.

  • I joined for what I thought was a month late last year. Before joining I carefully examined what I was signing up for because I hate auto renewals. Guess what? It auto renewed anyway. If you only want a month, join, then cancel immediately. They ended up getting two months out of me but I will never use them again.

    • +1

      I used to use disposable Revolut cards for things like this - but those cards are kind of useless now since most places that offer a subscription (and will renew at some point) have blocked disposable cards.

      However, ZipPay still offers a single use card and this works on subscriptions. I use this all the time now - never need to worry about being billed on an auto-renewal.

      • just use a virtual revolut and unfreeze whenever using.

        zip pay is credit and also there's 1% international exchange fee

        • yeah sorry I was talking about trials that required no upfront payment, which I use zippay for.

          I am aware of the freezing revolut option, but if given the choice, prefer zippay where nothing is due to be paid

          Re revolut, there are also numerous posts on reddit about frozen cards getting charges added.

  • Used them for 3 months to find Qantas reward flights. There are some limitations to their search options. But if you’re trying to find reward flights close to your travel time, this saves you heaps of time in navigating Qantas buggy reward site.

  • +1

    I signed up for booking an upcoming 12 sector Oneworld J ticket. Problem are that it doesn't show how may seats are available and search results can be 4 to 5 days old. So you end up going back to the Qantas site anyway and then seeing that the flights weren't available anymore. Not sure what the Qantas refresh time is but there was also a couple of flights showing availabilty on the Qantas site website that were gone when you tried to book them. Pretty frustrating to be trying to get so many sectors sorted and when you go to book one is not available anymore which screws up the rest of the itinerary.
    Probably good for flight alerts and for seeing routes that you might not have thought of.

  • +1

    They only let search for direct routes, so I cannot look for any flights to Europe :/ huge limitation

  • +1

    Award.flights and points path chrome extensions.
    Use for finding availability by alliance.

    • +1

      Points Path only covers American carriers. And Award Fares (assuming that's what you meant) has a more limited set of carriers than seats.aero and is also paid to use the award search function. So neither is fully comparable.

      • +1

        No its award.flights. Basically a script that does manual searches for you. But you need to put in your chosen airline membership number etc so that it can login and search the Qff or krisflyer or BA etc etc site.

        https://medium.com/@edward.alder1979/how-to-search-for-frequ…

        • Last updated 2018 lol. If you search Reddit, you’ll see people complaining it doesn’t work for any airlines except BA. I’m not trying it out as you have to give some random Chrome extension your account passwords.

          • -1

            @vetopower: Can always create a fake account and provide it to them.

  • How does it compare to
    https://rewardflights.io/ ?

    • More routes, more programs.

  • +5

    For the frequent flyer obsessives out there, a few thoughts…
    I've found a combo of seats.aero and pointsyeah.com to be very complimentary.

    Seats.aero searches thousands of known routes and caches results. This lets you do incredible searches for unusual availability across long timeframes and multiple origins and destinations. For example a search across all of velocity for two seats between major Asian airports and major European ones.

    However pointsyeah.com is better for connections, known routes, more programs and live results. I find it so useful I actually paid for it. The filtering is powerful and given it searches in real time, results are far more accurate. Use code EXP for a discount there.

    • +2

      ^ This is the winning combo in my experience too.

      Pointsyeah is more beginner friendly because it operates like a regular search engine. But if you know a lot about how award programs work (eg where award availability is generally the hardest to find, which programs have married segment issues, etc), you can do a huge amount with seats.aero. Still okay for a beginner, but less useful because you won't be aware of its limitations.

      • +1

        How do you search for married segments ? Through multi search? Or the relevant frequent flyer programme will show it itself ? For example I’m trying to find J for Mel or Syd in July ex UAE. From Dxb, lot of Ey availability automatically showing via XNB to get to AUH then direct to SYD. but can’t see any on QR via Doh. Confusing. Also Aeroplan directly showing plenty via IST with Turkish. But waiting for 100% bonus offer to buy some aeroplan points.

        • +1

          You can't. You have to develop a knowledge of which programs have it and which do not. Eg Qantas is pretty notorious for having married segments for domestic to international connections (eg there will be availability MEL-SYD and SYD-LAX, but no availability MEL-SYD-LAX). Best way to develop the knowledge is through trial and error. In your case, use seats.aero to find award availability on the most difficult (ie longer) leg (eg SYD-AUH) then find award availability on the easiest (ie shorter) leg (eg AUH-XNB) then see if you can find SYD-AUH-XNB via Velocity/Aeroplan. Can also cross-check with American which shows EY availability. Repeat with QR.

    • I paid for expert flyer for a year and it found me a few great award seats. Now they've removed United and Air Canada and never had Singapore or Cathay so I mostly use it for qantas flights. Do you find points.yeah to be better and include more airlines? Does it let you set alerts?

      • +2

        Pointsyeah has both United and AC, but no SQ or Cathay unfortunately (so you can't search directly for their own inventory unless it's shared with another partner).
        Has shown to me how incredibly flexible Virgin points are - they seem to get SQ and Qatar availability that even other Oneworld and Star Alliance don't get. It's strange.

        Seat alerts are limited to 4 for free user, 24 for paid, and if set a date range like SYD-LHR 1 Mar - 4 March that uses 4. So it's not ideal but it is very accurate and are active alerts, unlike seats.aero which will only hit when they run the search for that route/program.

        I've emailed the dev a few times and they're responsive and often adding new things. I wish they had a monthly sub but if I find the awards I'm looking for, it's worth the price.

        • Has shown to me how incredibly flexible Virgin points are

          I don't understand this wording.

          Are you saying that searching for SQ and QR flights via Velocity,
          yields Reward-Seats results, that you can't find elsewhere ?

          • @whyisave: Yes. For example Qantas get effectively zero Qatar availability, other Oneworld partners get various (Cathay get biz only 118 days out), but Virgin will have Qatar availability quite similar to BA/QR Avios.
            It used to be easy, you'd only need to search a single Oneworld or *A program to see all partners.
            But there's so many bilateral agreements and internal disagreements between airlines now, the aggregators like these tools are almost essential.

            • @tdth99: Thanks for clarifying.
              I've amassed a stackload of VFF, so that's good to know.
              I've also got some significant points in SQ, QR and UA too,
              so I got to figure out how to redeem them as well,
              because inflation is eating away at all of these points.

              • +1

                @whyisave: Totally agree.
                I was thinking of skimping on points use for some upcoming travel but thought… Life is too short for economy, you never know when FF program terms may change, and if it's available, do it!

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