Don't forget this week's specials for lamb cuts. Long weekend is ahead so you might need to sort out the bbq.
Woolworths Lamb Forequarter Chops @ $12.50 per kilo
Woolworths Lamb Loin Chop @ $16 per kilo
Lamb Forequarter Chops $12.50/kg @ Woolworths
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@lonewolf: You haven’t addressed my points. So you think that people should be offended because the staff for a private company don’t dress up for Australia day? You think this justifies people being harassed and attacked for their bosses disagreeing with some people’s opinion? That is the point. We should be able to disagree without the OTT reactions. You were the one trying to offload the blame for the attacks, not me. I didn’t make the initial political comment in a post about lamb chops. Go back and look at your initial post.
Yes I will defend the right for a private business to make their own business decisions. I’m a Woollies shareholder so I have a stake in the financial health of the company. This issue won’t hurt Woollies in the long run but the attack on the staff will hurt the credibility of the people who are outraged. What is there to be outraged about?
I’m a Woollies shareholder so I have a stake in the financial health of the company.
And there it is. I already knew it without you even saying it.
@pufffdragon: I am not sure what you are getting at? This is backing up my view this was a commercial decision. It is the outraged mob that is saying it is anything else. Explain why they are outraged at the stance of a company to legally make money by refraining from selling overseas made tat.
BTW I have Cole’s shares as well so I can profit off the outraged as well.
I am not sure what you are getting at?
Simple. You're a corporate shill.
Explain why they are outraged
You really think people are outraged about not getting their plastic flags.? You really think that's it?
You really have no idea then do you.
@pufffdragon: I’m not a corporate shill. As I explained i have shares in both major companies so I’m benefitting either way. I explained my position because people keep saying I’m anti capitalism, which I’m not. I have more stake than many that the company is being profitable. I also don’t “hate my country” which I also get accused of.
It would appear you can’t articulate what you are outraged about. Put it into words so we all know. Explain why a company can’t made decisions, for itself, how it legally conducts its business? Why saying that they aren’t making money by it and that the date is controversial is in any way incorrect? Explain why it is OK to harass and attack workers? The companies stance is hurting no one at all. When was the last time you bought any of these products from Woolworths? Nobody will answer that one. I truly don’t have any idea, please explain it to me.
I have no idea why an English person raising an English flag in front of English convicts in NSW is considered the best day for Australia Day. Ya know, when we weren’t even officially considered to be Australia by the same authorities.
@try2bhelpful: I haven't addressed your points because as I mentioned judging by how you have been responding on this thread. You aren't interested in a 2 way discussion, just your narrative so at that point , there's no reason for addressing any points
@lonewolf: My points are
- this was a bottom line commercial decision.
- most people objecting to this have either never bought this stuff, or certainly not lately, so it makes no commercial sense to stock it.
- that the date is considered controversial, which it is.
- a lot of this stuff is made overseas so it isn’t contributing significantly to Australian jobs or balance of trade.
- a lot of this stuff is use once and will become almost immediate landfill.
- Woollies hasn’t “cancelled” Australia Day, people can still celebrate it and they even advertise Australian Produce for Australia day.
- Most people really don’t give a toss on the date as long as it is a Public holiday and they get together with their family and friends.
- that there are a number of other suitable dates that would Commemorate”Australia” much better.
- that most people wouldn’t have known about the lack of stock unless the rightwing media hadn’t made such a big thing about it.
- that the leader of the Opposition then tried to organise a boycott of a business for making its own commercial decisions.
- that there are many other companies that aren’t carrying this stuff but, given how many their are, the rightwing media has backed off. Certainly Dutton has gone quiet.
- that some people “triggered” by the media, or Dutton, attacked and harassed Woolworths employees. There are people who blame the CEO for this rather than the “personal responsibility” of the people involved.
- as indicated I have shares in Woolworths and Coles so I win with both the outraged and the non outraged.So exactly what bit of this do you object to? Why won’t you answer my questions so we can compare notes on the issue?
@try2bhelpful: Do you cut down Captain Cook statues in your spare time when you're not watching The Project and shilling for the Gov and corporations.
Give it up already and go to work tomorrow. Good night.
@pufffdragon: This is hilarious. You can’t address my points so you go for the insult and false accusations.
Frankly I think attacking the Captain Cook statue is stupid. They will only cast another one to replace it.
I don’t watch the Project and, as I keep pointing out, I’m not shilling for Woollies because I win if the outraged go to Coles as well. They can’t go to Aldi because they stopped selling the tat there as well.
@try2bhelpful: To be honest, I don't want to address your points. It's tiring already and as others have mentioned you don't really want to listen to anyone else. You just want someone to agree with you.
If you can't see the bigger agenda behind what's going on with Australia day, you never will. No matter how much someone explains it to you.
@pufffdragon: You haven’t even articulated what the bigger agenda is and how I’m differing from it? You haven’t indicated the flaw in my points either. You may not want to address the points but they are the facts.
Why won’t you indulge in the facts of the situation? I am asking you to provide me with your side but you won’t even do so. How can you possibly say I won’t listen to you when you aren’t even providing those points. What am I meant to be listening to?
@try2bhelpful: For a person that's happy to discuss meat you're coming across as obsessed with politics, get some sunshine and enjoy the holiday.
@Talby23: I didn’t start this political caravan. However if someone else decides to that then I am happy to discuss the political issues they raise. Then all I get is deflection from actually discussing them.
I think you've been misinformed by your friend. Several pallets of chilled meat roll in to the Coles meat/transition fridge every day
The only things you're buying that would have been previously frozen are seafood (prawns/fish) because they're frozen at sea. They do that so it's not expired by the time you buy it
Given that the freezer isn't big enough to fit all the bakery/freezer stock, there's no way they'd be fitting meat in. When you buy meat, you'll see that the expiration date normally isn't months away, so there's no way the supermarkets could store it for months whilst also selling it to you. Perhaps the farms they get them from have stored the carcasses for a month or two. As an aside, a couple of months ago my Coles did have a box of whole kangaroo tails (with the fur on) being stored in the freezer for some reason, and they probably were there for a month
With regards to the colour of the meat, I think you'll find it's not exactly "artificial" as much as it is "enhanced" by being stored in MAP (Modified Atmosphere Packaging). With MAP, you change the ratios of gases in the package, which retards the dulling effect of decomposition, making the meat appear redder for longer. When meat is vacuum packed fresh it also has a purple hue to it
Salmon's a different story, they're definitely doing some funky stuff to get that orange/pink colour people crave. Because they're factory farmed and don't get a varied diet/enough exercise, their feed is laced with a chemical that turns their flesh a more appetising colour than the dull grey it would otherwise be
Good on you buying direct from farms, there are indeed also good butchers still around
My friend was a national sales rep manager who dealt with IGA and Metcash initially and then Woolworths and Coles as well. Over the years he has told me a lot of what goes on behind the scenes with Woolworths.
I dont mean freezer on site, I mean a lot of their fresh produce in general is kept in large warehouses frozen for months before being sold.
Perhaps its possible the conversations got mixed up and he meant only vegies and fruits / fresh produce and i thought we were still talking about meats. But pretty sure he had mentioned meats and thats why they use some of the artificial means of colouring it back to bright red.
Some fresh produce is probably frozen to make it viable to sell year round. Many fruits/vegetables turn in to a mushy/limp mess after being frozen though so I can't see how or why they'd try to get around that just so they can store it for longer periods. If you can specify which products he was talking about it would be more helpful
I believe the warehouses would face similar problems to my own Coles with there being no freezer space. A warehouse services multiple stores and to have months of product mixed around and all stored in the freezer would add considerable cost and difficult packing a pallet. It just doesn't really make sense. What happens at farms and corporations outside of Coles is beyond me, but I reckon they can't be much different
I can ask my managers today and see if they have any expertise/industry secrets I'm not privy to
@SpainKing: Not sure, I can ask him again, this was a few years ago and i was shocked when i heard about a lot of it. How some of the products were frozen for up to a year before they got sold and why he doesnt really buy certain fresh items from those stores anymore.
@lonewolf: Finding out which products they were would be great, I'd love to know so I can avoid them
I believe there's an element of truth to what he's saying because there are some foods that are stored frozen for a year to be able to sell them outside their natural season. Which those are I couldn't say
Cheers for the discussion mate
@SpainKing: I will definitely ask him again, He has now ventured away from working for companies and started his own distribution company and is going bonkers with that through all the contacts he made over the past 30 years of working in the industry. He is once again dealing Woolworths and Coles as well as basically any retailer that stocks the items he is distributing.
Btw here are just a few links that talk about what kinds of foods are frozen by woolies : -
https://www.smh.com.au/national/our-tests-show-supermarket-a…
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/what-they-do-to-…
https://www.choice.com.au/shopping/everyday-shopping/superma…
@lonewolf: That is nonsense, I have had dealings with WW and have seen their QLD distribution warehouse first hand. Fresh produce comes in early morning and pretty much all of it leaves the distribution center that day. The only item that is kept for any length of time, and by lengthy I mean days is bananas. They have chambers they put them in to start the ripening and then ship them.
If one thinks logically the cost to store and freeze 100's of tons of fresh produce would be uneconomical, besides the fact that most fresh produce does not freeze and thaw well.
Much cheaper like any other business runs and to buy on demand. Think back to covid with all the shortages, why did they not just magically thaw all that produce and sell it?
I prefer Woolies/Aldi/Coles over the local butcher because at least you know they've got the turnover. I've been burned at the butcher too many times.
Do you have a local fresh food market? I don’t know about Canberra but the ones in Melbourne do a pretty brisk trade and they tend sell off what’s left of their display meat, cheaper, at the end of the day to get rid of it. Just another option:) we’ve got decent meat out of them most of the time.
I live near South Melbourne market. Have been burned by Kirkpatrick's 2-3 times I'm afraid. Had a bad experience from Prahran too.
I'm sure the super upmarket butchers are better but I don't trust my cooking skills enough to invest in a $60 steak. I'm a good cook but you never know lol
Ahh, never had an issue with Kirkpatricks. However, it is certainly sad if you have had that happen. What was the problem?
Currently we are getting our meat from Costco and it seems to be pretty good. Certainly their fancy mince is really good. However, you are buying it in lots of 1 kg plus.
- Had a couple of things go bad way too fast.
- They do the classic thing where you point to something you want and they’ll go get it from the back fridge - presumably less fresh.
- Their tray ‘deals’ are deliberately misleading and often worse value than buying per kg.
I feel like I’ve been ripped off each time I’ve been there - I refuse to buy now.
I want to support local but I trust Woolies way more, even if their meat is low-mid tier
@Jigram: Not my experience but certainly not acceptable. There are other butchers there. Might be worth a try.
The stuff at the back fridge might not be less fresh, just easier for them to get to.
In our case stuff is, usually, eaten that day or frozen so we don’t normally have an issue with meat going off. Our usually culprit is dairy. We double check our use by dates because the ones closest to expiry are, usually, at the front. It takes a rummage, Sometimes they can be quite short dated.
Does anyone hate the smell of lamb?
It's fine when it's fully cooked and browned, but raw and while still cooking it really stinks.
Not sure what the best way to cook it while avoiding that smell might be … Roast in the oven?
On the grill, outside
Or roasting in something like the Weber?
That would be a great idea, but I live in a flat, and a bbq on the balcony isn't an option …
Yeah I remember my uni days and a fair few student digs that stunk of rancid lamb fat. Like it was baked into the curtains.
@wavesgreen: Reckon sous vide, finished up in a ripping hot pan would go alright?
It'd be in a sealed bag while it's cooking, and then you just sear it quickly when it's all done?
Or maybe the oven? Might contain the smell a bit and be hot enough that any scent that escapes is 'well cooked' ?
@Grazz989: To be honest I've always found the best approach with fried food stinking up the place is a well-fitting lid to the pan. It goes on and stays on except when turning the food and immediately goes back on after removing the pan from the heat at the end, and stays on until it has completely cooled to room temperature. Swabbing the fat up with paper towel and into a sealed bag, and then immediately washing the pan by itself and draining the sink also drastically reduces the amount of fatty molecules getting loose into the air.
Sure you get a bit more of a sautée than a sear but that's the price you pay for reducing the smell.
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@try2bhelpful: Not every opinion is based on political leanings, but the way you try to win your point is to put into a group and attack that group as if it makes your point stronger. What it actually does is show people that people who attack a group instead of just a particular point is because they know they have already lost. You implying when everyone else is brainwashed by media when you seem to be the bloke jumping onto every post and saying the same thing again and again.
You keep stating it is no big deal and it was only done because woolworths doesnt make many sales of the items and not any statement, then why did petstock (owned by woolworths) tell its employees to not dress up for Australia Day and they wont be recognising Australia Day?
Anyway, its no point really as sometimes people are so stuck in their thinking, discussion is pointless.