This whole process of corporate Australia pandering to the woke community is getting totally out of hand
Woolworths Dumps Australia Day Merchandise
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Free speech is a rubbish term
Stop being a soft petal over peoples opinions. Your the one choosing to be offended
Move along nothing to see here@Loot N Plunder: So all you have is abuse. By your own definition I am free to reject your opinion so I do.
@try2bhelpful: That's the way
Move along nothing to see hereYour only fueling them
By ignoring them you'll starve them of oxygenbtw there is no abuse unless you choose there to be
@Loot N Plunder: Ya know I think you need to understand how abuse works and why people use it. Do some research to broaden your horizons.
Ignoring people does not starve them of oxygen it lets issues fester. It is how you get people like Hitler in charge. When people think that someone’s views are just too absurd to survive they slither in. Each opinion you walk past is an idea you are tacitly accepting.
Ya don’t get progress in society unless you have a vanguard. These people start off being derided, then considered dangerous and then finally people decide it is common sense.
Haha, doesn't take long for the closet fascist to come out ey?
At least the smart ones pretend to be for "free speech", you must be one of the low IQ outcasts.
Going by the poll, nearly half of OzBargainers hate Australia. If you need directions to the airport, I'd be happy to oblige.
Going by the poll, nearly half of OzBargainers love cheap overseas made rubbish that ends up in landfill.
Ya do wonder how buying cheap Chinese crap shows any sort of respect for Australia. People being manipulated by the idea of “patriotism” to part with their money.
As I (and Woolies) have said multiple times, it's not about the "cheap overseas rubbish", but rather it's about not wanting to offend people who hate Australia.
If you love Australia so much why don't you buy Australian made merchandise?
Why don't you buy your meat, milk and other food direct from Australian farmers and markets?What a laughable comment. You think people who aren’t into mindless “patriotism” hate Australia? Frankly I love my country which is why I think it can do better. I expect it to grow and become more considerate as we learn. I acknowledge the issues with our history as well as the positive things.
Just imagine the impression you make on people when you say things like this. “Oh, he is one of those people”. I suppose you are saving people’s time.
Best not to sell things that offend ~40% of your customers (going by voice referendum numbers).
If hot cross buns offended 40% of the population in the same way, they probably wouldn't sell them either.
Best not to sell plastic rubbish that ends up as landfill to pretend you are honouring being “Australian” whatever the hell that is meant to mean.
One unexpected outcome of all this, Friday afternoon at my local Woollies, very few cars in the carpark and nearly no customers.
LOTS of markdowns, filled up 2 shopping bags with things marked to half-price or less. Came home with more than $50 worth of food for $27. Like shopping in 1990 all over again!Honestly? After 2 days? Sounds like something else going on in your area. Buy up now because it will be back to normal very soon.
A large business sells Aust day merch = greedy for trying make/take money out of regular plebs on a special day.
Larger business no longer wants to sell = greedy and bad, denying Aussies Aust day!
Can't win.
Specifically what business is being accused of being greedy for selling Australia day merch?
The ones who put a large markup on “Special Occassion” crap and then drop the prices when the crap doesn’t sell.
Whats the big fuss? I never even realised woolies was big on Aus day merch… usually its the discounted stores like reject shop and red dot that comes to mind when I think of those nasty landfill hats and flags
Woolworths is a business.
They don't care about sentiment. They care about profits.
They must have worked out keeping Aus Day products on shelves is going to lose them customers. Whereas removing them won't be as much of a loss.
Similar to the ones who are like "I DON'T USE SELF SERVE CHECKOUTS BECAUSE I'M NOT BEING PAID A WAGE". Shop somewhere else then - Woolworths is a business and doesn't care. They don't owe the public anything
Absolutely, but they don't always get it right! Case in point - Bud Light!
Ya right, the same cancel culture rightwingers objected to that one as well. Just wind them up and let them complain like clockwork. Apparently they have no sense of humour and a huge chip on their shoulders.
However, if you drink Bud Light you only have yourself to blame.
The irony of right wingers complaining about cancel culture when they are the biggest proponents of it will never not be funny. Always projection with these snow flakes
@Randolph Duke: Ya not wrong. Unless you totally adhere to their restrictive ideology you are persona non grata and they will try to hound you and hunt you down. People trying Trump in the US are getting death threats and getting false alarm calls made to their property.
Funny how often their heroes have feet of clay. I can’t wait to see if Alan Jones will risk his defamation suit. It has, spectacularly, blown up the face of a few others who didn’t realise it means they go on trial as well.
I don't know what you're on about, but Bud going woke cost Anheuser-Busch around $26b in market valuation.
@dcash: Well that speaks to the sort of people who drink their terrible beer.
However, I suspect in a few years these sort of campaigns will prove to be unremarkable. If you have a look at the sort of ads that were considered acceptable previously and now horrify people.
I don't know what you're on about, but Bud going woke cost Anheuser-Busch around $26b in market valuation.
You’re obviously keeping up with the stock market then. Might want to look at the 12 month price chart.
@dcash: So you are in to cancel culture as well? Not surprised. Can’t accept anything but exactly how you want it to be.
@try2bhelpful: You really appear to have some serious comprehension issues. All I was doing was pointing out an example of a company in the US who thought they could increase profits by doing something woke, and ended up costing the company billions. I made no personal statement about whether or not I support cancel culture. You're the one trying to twist every single comment to suit your own agenda, and for that reason this will be my last reply to you.
@dcash: My comprehension issues are fine. I’m pointing out the rightwing complains about cancel culture but they are the biggest proponents of it. However, I’m more than happy to cease discussing this with you. However, I suspect, you will keep responding because you guys tend to,
@dcash: Really? 12 months ago, the share price was $61.07, today it's $65.07.
Didn't seem to hurt them in the long run…@dj69: Which is still below where it was the month before the Dylan Mulvaney disaster, and also doesn't reflect the half billion dollars in lost revenue, or the 400 staff that had to be laid off, or the required divestment of other brands they held. But hey, if you consider that a win, then perhaps you ought to send your CV to Woolies!
@dcash: The stock market overall is pretty much up and down. I bet most of the people that lost their job have been rehired as well. However if you stop buying a product you like because of a couple of ads you aren’t very bright to start with. Which gets me back to the sort of person who would but Bud Light in the first place.
The sky is falling the sky is falling. Given they owned 100% before we came along this is not that much land. Maybe it is time some people realised everything isn’t always about them. However, I suspect they aren’t coming for your house so you can go off and change into some dry pants.
So they fell from the sky did they? They didn't own anything as they took over from whoever was here before them.
Go back to college to get some knowledge.
So we should give all the land back to the animals? Indigenous people looked after our land for 60,000 years.
We've done a bang up job continuing that tradition of looking after it.
100 Australian endemic species are listed as extinct (or extinct in the wild) since the nation's colonisation by Europeans in 1788. The list includes 38 plants, 34 mammals, ten invertebrates, nine birds, four frogs, three reptiles, one fish, and a protist.
College? What are you American? I went to a University in Australia.
Part of decolonising which improves Australia for some, at least it’s not the wealthiest getting it for once. Wonder if it’s land somewhere you would want to live anyway.
I suspect not.
Irrespective. Sets a precedent. Flood gates are being opened.
Well there’s been precedent since 1992, no one’s house ever been claimed or taken because the law protects private land. Just land no one is using is given to a trust.
The flood gates were opened when the first fleet came and the Indigenous people lost their land.
@try2bhelpful: Apparently some people can’t handle the truth.
Username does not check out.
I disagree with cheap landfill-destined plastic crap made in China. I also disagree with supporting Woolworths. This is not politically motivated imo it is a purely financial decision based on performance of this promotional merchandise in past years. If they made money selling it they wouldn't have stopped.
But if this leads to a WW boycott AND less Chinese plastic crap getting about then it's a win win for me.
I go to Woolies to buy food. If there’s also something special there at the time, I might buy that, too. But that’s not why I go there. Sales of these products have dropped significantly in recent years so they choose not to stock. No doubt DUTTON is using this as a way to try to become relevant. Funny that he urged people to shop elsewhere, such as Aldi, and they’re not stocking them either.
Woke: "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". Oh what a terrible thing to be.
It hasn’t changed meaning. The rightwing has tried to appropriate it but people who actually believe in not discriminating against other people won’t let them get away with being so appallingly racist. However, It does give people a shortcut to identify who the ignorant rightwingers are.
Oh it has changed? To what? What is it's definition now?
If it has changed, it's only changed to people who felt targetted by being called out on their own awful behaviour or biases which made them feel bad.That's a garbage definition and you know it. The meaning has changed completely in recent years to signify left wing extremism.
Thinking this means you agree with or you watch a lot of the fox/sky rubbish. Your choice to do so, of course.
That's a garbage definition and you know it.
The only rubbish is right wingers thinking using woke is some sort of slur, same as how they've being using the word "gay" as a slur.
Actually, it doesn't. It literally means being alert to racial prejusdice and discrimination. That's it.
Don’t think i’ve really bought any Australia day merch, so it’s not an issue for me. I don't really remember there being much around as a kid either.
On the wider issue around Aus day, i have no problem with changing the date.
My concern is that when questioned about alternative dates, many of the protest groups involved actually just want to remove any national celebration day whatsoever,The logic being that until all past wrongs are corrected we have no right to celebrate anything.
Its a noble goal, but no society we will ever reach the point of righting all wrongs, yes things can get better , but they will never ever be perfect.I do admire the protesting spirit of current generations and think they are sincere in trying to make the world better. But i also think dismantling a national day of celebration (amongst other things) and constantly focusing on our differences and past wrongs isnt going to create a utopian society , instead it’s only going to create more social disunity and problems.
I bet so many complainers here never bought any Aus day themed merchandise to begin with. It's all manufactured outrage over literally nothing.
If it means so much to you, order it online, or use the stuff you surely bought last year and have stored away for your next big Aus day bash.
Such a non-issue.
I don't imagine lunar new year and Diwali are too profitable either yet they market that. It's all about priorities and theirs clearly aren't with the culture who made their whole existence possible.
What providing cheap overseas made tat? However you might want to look through the history of Australia and look at how “acceptable behaviour“ has evolved. Your comments are so extreme they can easily be discarded.
Do they normally sell fake tatts, flags, Tshirts and other merch that's only sellable for that annual occasion (lunar and Diwali?
I'm sure Woolies will continue to sell sausages for those who want to hold bbqs on Aust day.
Yup. It is more important the supermarkets sell staples rather than tat. Do we really think Dutters will appear in the full overseas rubbish tat outfit head to foot? It would show he has abandoned traditional LNP voters completely.
Pandering to the woke community is a good thing if the alternate is keeping the Newscorp/Dutton mob happy. Stay woke.
I work for Woolies - let me tell you they have all the Chinese New Year merch out the back ready to go on sale and we would sell less of it then then the Australia day merch so the statement by them that they just don’t sell a lot of Australia Day merch as one of the reasons for pulling it is BS.
Because you work in the finance department.
I don’t follow? What’s your point?
Anyone with have a brain knows the decision has nothing to do with profits, and everything to do with pandering to the woke masses who have been taught to hate Australia. The fact that Woolies now have a so-called "First Nations" board, consisting of Adam Goodes amongst others, pretty much tells you everything you need to know about their decision making!
Blah, blah, blah rightwing rant. Anyone with a brain knows that businesses make business decisions to make profits. That is why the RWNJs don’t get it.
Indirectly, of course, but not because they thought Australia Day merchandise wouldn't turn a profit. Rather, because they thought that being woke would earn them goodwill, and in turn increase profits. So far I'd say it's done more harm than good to their reputation, and therefore it's highly unlikely the decision will help add to their bottom line. Also hilarious that you equate those supporting the right wing of politics to be against capitalism. You might need to go back to Economics 101 for a refresher ;)
@dcash: I understanding that capitalism is based on understanding your total market not the people who are triggered by rightwing outrage and people like Dutton. As a shareholder with WW I’ve have no trouble with their decision. I do wonder what Dutters is doing as he has given up on the business community. It isn’t like he is offering any economic solutions for the people “doing it tough”. He is pushing overseas made tat as a distraction.
When you are reduced to rightwing tropes instead of reasoned arguments you lose credibility.
@try2bhelpful: I don't see what a decision and announcement by Woolworths has to do with Peter Dutton. By the way you're acting, it's almost as if you think Peter Dutton is the PM, and not Albo! I can't blame you, as Albo himself doesn't even seem to be aware of this fact!
@dcash: Frankly I don’t see either. I don’t understand why he has decided to put his 2c in by calling for a boycott of a business that is making decisions on what products it will sell. Especially as he was part of a Government that tried to bring in legislation to stop boycotts.
I don’t think he will ever become PM. More and more he is straying into One Nation territory and their vote is dwindling. Actually this will play well for Albanese. It is solidifying the position of the Teals. Why get in the way of someone destroying themselves.
@try2bhelpful: Well you were the one who brought Peter Dutton into the conversation, not me! Lol
@dcash: Dutton inserted himself into this. I’m just pointing out he is the sort of people who are offended by this decision. Just one more monumental hypocrite.
Chinese New Year merch
Can you define what falls under 'merch'. Do/did Woolies sell CNY tshirts, toys and stuff like that? I know some things won't sell well, ie crappy moon cakes made by dodgy companies. But that would be the same for any rubbish food.
I don't recall my Woolies selling blow up fingers, flags and junk that like for lunar NY.Perhaps the Chinese like to buy stuff made in their homeland but aussies not keen on wasting money on Chinese made Aussie flags
Woolies can stock (and not stock) whatever they like… I don't give a crap.
Marketing spin as "reasons" doesn't hide the fact that they probably aren't selling much of it at all, so they don't think its worth the hassle promoting it.
This is a fiscal decision, plain and simple. Dutton can get his panties in a twist for political points scoring as much as he likes… but he should not be getting involved in the financial decisions of businesses. Pathetic.
But when they usually choose not to stock an item. they do it quietly. This time they have put out a media release because they want to make a political statement.
I bet all those who are banging on about Australia Day merch being made in China, are the ones who are only too happy buying fake aboriginal art and Aboriginal t-shirts that are also made in………China!
Well that is absolute BS. If you really care about the Indigenous community you look for product that has come out of the community and, certainly, is Australian produced.
snowflake.
Is there a badge for making a post with a poll that received the most votes?
Looks like this post has backfired on the OP.
Are you for real??????????????
I made the original post with a purely altruistic motive .
I can only suggest that you get a life.You have a weird idea of altruism unless you were being ironic with your comments.
“This whole process of corporate Australia pandering to the woke community is getting totally out of hand”.
This comment is just ludicrous.
Debate closed as your comments are simply moronic
Honestly mate read what you wrote and understand where the problem started. Please close it down.
I am not your "mate" and go away you horrible little child
If that is your level of discourse no wonder you thought you were being altruistic.
However you aren’t very Australian if you object to mate being used in that way.
There's no way on earth this poll as it stands is reflective of wider community sentiment.
"A poll run by Yahoo News Australia revealed that 81 per cent of almost 2,500 voters believed shops should still sell the themed products – from thongs to stubby holders".
There's no way on earth that poll is reflecting wider community views.
Absolutely. Most Australians wouldn’t be wasting their money on this tat. All that shows is certain sections of the community who use Yahoo news can be easily triggered. Given how conservative the people on Ozbargain are the wider Australian community would be even less likely to give a shit what WW is doing.
At the end of the day the only numbers that matter are the ones that say a majority of Australians support January 26 as Australia Day. 😉
Honestly I don’t think most Australians give a shit what day it is as long as they get a public holiday. Australia day should be January 1st when the states Federated but we already have a public holiday for that.
How many of those 2.500 spend any of their hard earned on that crap?
Coles will be happy, all the nuffies who suddenly care about cheap Chinese made shit will be loading up on merch this Aussie day to prove how Aussie they are #straya
I suspect not many at all. I notice they didn’t ask that in the poll.
I win either way. I have shares in both WW and Coles. If the RWNJs want to be triggered to buy crap, that I’m sure Coles will inflate the price on, then that improves my share price and dividend return. The people who object to the crap will buy from WW, thus improving that share price and dividend return.
However Australians aren’t as stupid as Americans. Only the hardcore will decide that patriotism has a side order of overseas built rubbish. Most people will be happy spending their money on food and drink to share with family and friends. Back to the Supermarkets.
Yahoo still exists? Is it mostly visited by boomers that used it when the internet first started existing and didn't realise no one else goes there? Kind of like Myer?
do you know what boomer means?
Yep. It's old people that scream about everything they don't understand being woke.
@Moventura: Do you know what bigot means?
Me I think people should understand history and stop thinking life is all about them. Free speech is a rubbish term because it is used by too many people to try to get a free pass for whatever crap they come out with. People are entitled to their opinions but they need to understand they will be held accountable for what they say. Everything people say has a cost/benefit analysis attached to it.